Geez, I don't know who's more credible, the utterly rational CPS worker with lots of documentation and things that nature, or the drug addicts who can't be bothered to drug test. Such a quandary
Mom is a picker, likely from meth. She is spreading the bacteria to other open sores by constantly touching them, this is a known issue with meth users.
@@youtubestreets3915 I mean, don't get me wrong, there are psychiatric conditions that have an anxiety component which compels one to pick at, scratch, etc, like Dermatillomania/Exhortation Disorder and Trichotillomania, so one can't 100% eliminate the possibility that she does suffer from such.....but Occam's Razor suggests otherwise lol.
Dang OnTropolis, now you got me scratching !! These 2 need to check into long term rehab. Glad that Judge set dad straight on being disrespectful. God help these kiddos
I have to say this judge is so calm, I can’t even imagine being in his shoes. When I hear him come on I think “Well at least it’ll be somewhat decent & fair.”
I had a very bad IV fentanyl habit... along with cocaine and meth...I was pretty high but still went to detox and got my shit together when my kids got taken away
@@awkwardautisticThat Is So Amazing!!!Congrats!❤🎉❤ I've been sober for 10 yrs and I know just how hard it really is and Its No Joke!❤ Keep up the Good Work!!❤
My new addiction is watching court for some reason lol I tried a few channels as suggested by TH-cam but have found several to be soooo hard to listen to due to commentary over the zoom calls. Thank you for doing one that doesn’t sound like three radios playing different stations.
I have Dermatrillomania and Trichotrillomania. People just don't understand those at all. People like these parents, give my conditions a VERY bad name by blaming their drug use on it.
Absolutely. One of my girlfriends in school had trichotrillomania from ocd and anxiety. She needed medication and therapy and felt like people could see it
@@awkwardautistic Thats basically what I just said in my comment. Blaming my disease when they do meth, gives my conditions a very bad name and Ive had people accuse me of meth use.
My, my. These parents aren't going to have their children home for a long time, if ever. It's a real shame how people can get so screwed up at such young ages.
18 months of not doing 1 single thing to get those babies back. They should be stripped of their parental rights, they've had more than enough time. I pray for those innocent babies.
There was a hearing on this case yesterday. Aaron's haven't done anything on their service plan and Dad flipped out at the hospital so visits have been stopped, the caseworker is in fear for her own safety
I'm so upset that I missed that! I'm going through everything to see if I might have caught it without realizing because I was in Lockwood much of the day lol
I'm so happy I found your channel, I've been watching crime related videos since 2007 and I've seen practically everything, I'm all crimed out lololol.. I've been benge watching for days, I appreciate your hard work 💙
Meth sores. Anxiety is a common excuse for meth sores because it explains picking, irrational behavior, being jittery, etc. The chemicals from meth that come out through your skin can cause a lot of issues for children if it comes in contact with them. Rashes, sores, and sometimes they can test positive for meth if there are somewhat large amounts of fluid excreted and spread. That's their main cause of concern. especially, since one of the kids got a rash after a visit. They should have drug tested him/her. It's really sad.
I can’t imagine being in the situation where losing my child was even a possibility, but even worse losing a child and not having one family member or friend able to step in is so sad, they don’t know one sober person with a job that can help?
Sometimes family is afraid because they know the parent will insist and avoid all rules to interfere. You, as a family member are not only taking in a child, but tying themselves to 2 drug dependant, irrational parents. Sometimes a stranger (well intentioned) is the only hope for children.
Some of us just don’t have family. If my kids were little again and that was me I would have had not 1 person I could have called. Sad it’s like that sometimes.
I have a big family but no one could or would take my 2yr old twins while me and their father got clean . I can't blame them...2yr old twins is a big job and one of my twins has cerebral palsy and needs a lot of extra care.
For almost forever, it's been my understanding that lawyers live by a rock-solid rule: Never ask a question which you don't know the answer. Especially when it involves your own client. Yet the lawyer representing the mother didn't know the results of a drug test from more than a month ago.
he just got appointed to represent lying meth heads who had their kids taken away, no one wants them to get those kids back right now. they're going to end up selling them for drugs
So incredibly sad that parents will choose drugs over their flesh and blood. I mean I get that addiction is real, but it is possible to get clean. If the motivation is there.. if your kids don’t get you to shape up, nothing will.
Excoriation disorders- (dermatillomania and trichotillomania specifically) are both self picking disorders that could cause sores and the picking that cause then. Just wanted to make sure that an alternative cause was represented for the picking. Because sometimes its not drugs.
As per the sores…if it is indeed not the anxiety disorder the mom says it is, which it could be (just not sure I buy it tho- especially if she has used meth as her primary drug, but…)then yes, using meth can def cause those sores from itching & picking, rinse, repeat… But smoking crack? Rarely does that cause those or any other body/face sores. I’m a PT substance abuse counselor for about 15 years now, & Ive only seen a couple of addicts who used crack as their DOC & ever had sores anything like meth addicts get or even anything close. Crack is not body addictive like meth or heroin, or not too much, thus it doesn’t cause the phantom skin itches, the anxiety-caused skin picking, or the sensation of ‘bugs’ crawling under the skin, etc…not to say it can’t happen, but crack & meth are quite different drugs & on top of that, they don’t affect ppl all the same way. For many reasons. Just offering info here is all. Peace ✌🏻 😊
Thanks for another whopper, OnTropolis! Well, he knows his grandpa was a member of a tribe "because of things he had up in his house". What he doesn't know is that Walmart sells Native American-style rugs & linens & "art". I'll bet neither of them has any true NA blood. If they want to claim that to benefit themselves, then they should have to know more about the family's NA ancestry. Defo drug+, why else refuse to test? I thought meth sores as soon as they started talking about them, then I thought maybe scabies or impetigo, then when the December drug test results were discussed I was back to meth sores. I just want to love up all the children who have horrible parents like these.
To be a member of the Cherokee Nation, you must prove Cherokee by blood. This requires having names of ancestors at least back to the Dawes Roll. Once you have the names you are required to prove the lineage.
Did mom and dad go to the local nursing home to get their lawyers? Good grief Charlie Brown, I had to watch this at 1.25x just to keep MYSELF from nodding out when they were speaking 🤣
I didn’t know that you could be enrolled in a native tribe…..just by having native items in your home! Sheesh, there’s an awful lot of non natives out there, houses filled with fake dream catchers, mandelas, turquoise etc…who could be missing out on being enrolled then 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@upaige911 oh! I’m sorry lol which tribe are you enrolled in? I’m enrolled in Confederated Tribes of the Siletz Indians of Oregon. I thought u were just joking.
Found this in 20 seconds on Google from a Social Security Administration's website snippet: "If you lost your card, you may not need a replacement. In most cases, simply knowing your SSN is enough. But if you do need a replacement, we make it easy."
It's my understanding that you need at least one grandparent, not a great-grandparent, who is/was a Native American to be eligible for benefits from the Bureau of Indian Affairs. In other words, a minimum of one-eighth heritage. (Correct me if I'm wrong, please!)
I have the anxiety disorder that causes picking & I think she is lying. I mostly go after my face, arms & legs. There have been times my legs or arms were completely covered. Its also not something that happens all the time, I do have breaks where I don't have anything. It usually starts as an allergic reaction (I'm allergic to the world) & I just can't leave it alone. I have been diagnosed since I was a child. My mom would cut my nails thinking it would stop me. It didn't. My kids never once ended up with a rash or anything from being near me. I'm also really good about keeping what I can covered when I can. It's not easy & I struggle bad when I'm dealing with a flair up. The regret I feel is a whole nother story. This mom is on Meth.
I’ve dealt with this for periods of time as well, it’s awful. Certain medication’s makes it worse. Hydrocolloid Band-Aids helps tremendously just by keeping a barrier that heal really fast.
I’m exactly the same. Have had people presume I was on meth which wasn’t very nice on my mental health (and probably increased my skin picking!). I feel you! ❤
Gosh. These two are straight up posters for ‘drugs are bad, mmmm’kay’. Go show school kids these two and this would guarantee to keep some kids away from drugs.
Haven’t had mine since I was a kid. Never needed it. Always was able to use a DL, Passport, &/or B cert if I was required to provide additional forms of ID…just saying
Y’all desperately need #idealoption - we as a country need to invest in more addiction treatment centers- I have experience with this particular one in two states and love them. It works- fix addiction and we fix a majority of cps cases. These kiddos deserve better - it takes a village- thanks to all agencies protecting our future and making sure these babies have a fighting chance
Ya- if they truly are meth sores she is likely too far gone into the drug. Little chance she will come back from it unless she survives nasty near death event. 🙁
Its actually dirty meth that does that to the skin. Well produced meth will not have that kind of effects on the skin unless they twerk on skin. Chemicals are crystallizing and comes like little spikes so small and unseen they pick and pick until they sores become ulcers from dirty fingers digging skin.
Meth heightens her anxiety, and she’s constantly touching them with her dirty fingers, making it impossible for them to heal. Meth doesn’t come out of the sores themselves, Unless you are referring to an injection site. She could use Hydrocolloid Band-Aids, they make them in small circles the size of a sore, for just this purpose. It would keep bacteria out giving them a chance to heal. It’s all very sad😞
@@All5AJz i’m not sure about dirty or clean meth but I’ve seen this happen to people who are prone to picking just from being prescribed Adderall, before you know it, it looks like they have the chickenpox.
I just recalled one of the first cases i reviewed for disability entailed an older woman was so certain she had parasites that she picked them off her body and saved them in baggies. She would take baggies packed full of skin flakes and scabs to her dr! No drugs. Just nutty as a fruitcake. 😳
@ruthlys I worked for a primary care physician. I worked in the lab as a microbiologist, so when someone would come in complaining of parasites, microscopic bugs, or alien implants, I would have to examine the contents of those horrific baggies under a microscope. In 32 years, I had one occasion where they actually DID have scabies. The rest of them were just like your lady. 🥜😂
@@thefloridamimi9278 Yay! I'm not the only one who had to do this. I was the lead micro tech in a major city hospital with one of the only phyc wards in the area....
I think I saw or heard of a homeless lady putting worms in her skin! She would dig out little holes and stuff the worms in there. When they went to take them out she knew them by name!
As someone who loves a person with a mental health disability, I am so disappointed that a person in your position would use such derogatory language when speaking about the vulnerable population you serve. You should be ashamed of yourself.
So I really wonder if they're telling the truth about the native American ancestry. The reason that a lot of people might hope for that lineage in a situation like this is because that's when the tribunal could step in and take custody of the child and CPS nor American laws can Trump that. Tribunals want native American children to stay within the tribe. Children would not be adopted out. Those parents would be taken into the reservation and given help and there's really no law in America that can supersede that. Go take a gander at the Indian child welfare act.
There's a new story deals with something like this. I also first heard about the Indian child welfare act for the documentary called kind-hearted woman on PBS. Sometimes the act works to the detriment of the child
Most tribes you only have to be 1/16th in order to be able to claim benefits. Lots of people at 6.25% don't look native. Most families in America have always claimed native American ancestry. But I have seen people with are as much as 20% verified with a DNA test who have light eyes, pale skin and freckles, and had no idea until a DNA test was taken. I cannot help but think after looking at their Facebook's that they are just bummy immature people and their DNA has never been verified.
@@elreytriton just curious how you know this? I am an enrolled Tribal member, so I was just wondering how you can tell by looking at them? ( i’m not disagreeing with you though. It is unlikely just from Heather talking.)
Moms sores sound like Meth sores. Many on that drug have the feeling of bugs crawling on their skin and will pick at it. They reused drug tests because they knew they would fail. The dad is delusional 🙀
Haven’t watched your video to the end yet so you may know this 😂 I followed this case, there was an emergency hearing yesterday due to mom and dad having a big fight in front of CPS, both had visitations suspended until further notice from the court (pretty sure that’s what he said before they can begin again)
@@Ammo2Ammo it’s Judge John Lockwood and pretty sure they delete videos at the end of each day, it was a quick hearing on his docket for the 25th or 26th.
Yea those are not ulcers I have one on my leg and trust me you sure the fk ain't picking it I'm awake so friggin tired right now cause of the pain cant sleep
I have a history of dermatillonmania or excoriation disorder. It is an anxiety disorder similar to trichotillomania. However, that is without substance use. Since she is testing positive for meth she doesn't have that diagnosis. She has a substance use disorder that supersedes anxiety disorder. If she gets clean and is still picking then that's a legitimate diagnosis. Just not at this time.
I’ve watched many CPS cases that included a representative for Native Americans. They generally agree with the CPS department or have no opinion. There have been news stories about heart wrenching cases of children being moved after years with a single caregiver or family, but I haven’t seen that play out in any of the cases on Zoom . The parents seem to think it will benefit them in some way. It might change their children’s living status, but I don’t think it will help their custody status , as the parents.
I started watching a hearing where dad was a bozo and they were asking him about emails he sent threatening caseworkers and step dad. I can't find it now???
The thing that state gov'ts refuse to do is pay for long term rehab. For drugs like meth & opioids, a minimum of 90 days is needed. 180 would likely raise the chances of success. Most states will not pay for more than 14-30 days.
It is not hard to order a birth certificate online, haven't mailed to your house, and then go down to social security and the DMV to get ID and are social security card. It's not hard
There's a specific act for children of native heritage. ICWA (Indian child welfare act) and there are requirements for CPS cases or guardianships when a child has a tribal connection. The tribe has the right to be involved in the process to ensure that culturally appropriate things are taking place for any child removed from the parents. I have a few videos with ICWA involvement and find them quite interesting.
Question: why do they ask about their possible native heritage and if they are part of a native tribe. I would love to know the legal reason, plz and thx
I have the Same Exact issue as her. I've had anxiety since childhood and I am a picker because of it. But it's only if I end up with some kind of scab that came from an injury. I don't actually just pick my skin into gross sores. But, unfortunately, I will have the same scab for months straight cuz I can't stop picking at it and let it heal properly. One summer, I legit looked like a junkie because I was getting bit by mosquitoes all over my legs and arms and I was scratching and picking at them so bad that they would end up scabbing and then I would pick them and pick them constantly so I would joke around to people that I swear I'm not a junkie LOL!
Mom either does meth, has skin lesions but probably not, bacterial infection which is most likely if child really broke out too. That, or the child has meth in their system. It can be 100 other things though, too, but sounds like meth.
Why fight now n half ass it. This should of never got this far. I am a recovering addict and never did i put my son (only had 1 kid during that time) in danger. He was why i got clean. I couldnt care for him n use without him suffering. I know how hard it can be. The biggest mistake people make is tryin to hold on to the friends they used with. All they will do is try to take you down with them. I hope for the kids and their sake they get clean. Every child needs their parents, n no child should have to be in 2nd place to drugs or anything
Sad. Just sad. No one grows up thinking I want to be a terrible person and parent and prioritize the drugs killing be over my kids and everything else. Mandating them to rehab plus a long term aftercare program would or could do them wonders. If they completed getting and staying sober and had some real insight, and saw what life could be, maybe they’d be able to truly get on board. Until then, they’re not at rock bottom and who knows what is for this pair :(
Garens right is his left? I know some drugs cause sores. Mother is not very convincing in saying she will go along with the plan. Why can't Garen get his own birth certificate. Accusing the case worker, calling her a liar. If he claims Native American Alaskan heritages, why did he keep shaking his head no when it was mentioned before. Jerk plus with attitude. Not father material!
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Geez, I don't know who's more credible, the utterly rational CPS worker with lots of documentation and things that nature, or the drug addicts who can't be bothered to drug test. Such a quandary
Bahaha
Mom is a picker, likely from meth. She is spreading the bacteria to other open sores by constantly touching them, this is a known issue with meth users.
100% correct! My number 1 concern would be MRSA.
Oh I see, no wonder why the hospital called CPS, but she's trying to make it seem like is nothing like that, but it's from anxiety since she was 2.🙄
I don’t think anyone was fooled by her testimony
@@theirmomk8pantz230 I was gonna say that and staphylococcus
@@youtubestreets3915 I mean, don't get me wrong, there are psychiatric conditions that have an anxiety component which compels one to pick at, scratch, etc, like Dermatillomania/Exhortation Disorder and Trichotillomania, so one can't 100% eliminate the possibility that she does suffer from such.....but Occam's Razor suggests otherwise lol.
I gotta say- I love this lawyer Ratcliff. He is one of few who doesn’t blindly defend his client. He calls her on her bs. Thank you sir
Dang OnTropolis, now you got me scratching !! These 2 need to check into long term rehab. Glad that Judge set dad straight on being disrespectful. God help these kiddos
I have to say this judge is so calm, I can’t even imagine being in his shoes. When I hear him come on I think “Well at least it’ll be somewhat decent & fair.”
These parents are too high to care. Fun watching her pick her face while the lawyers talk about it.
Ya mean meth sores
Meth is a hell of a drug
I had a very bad IV fentanyl habit... along with cocaine and meth...I was pretty high but still went to detox and got my shit together when my kids got taken away
@@awkwardautisticThat Is So Amazing!!!Congrats!❤🎉❤ I've been sober for 10 yrs and I know just how hard it really is and Its No Joke!❤ Keep up the Good Work!!❤
I love how Mr. Keating questions when he’s annoyed with the parents. His tone of voice tells it all.
My new addiction is watching court for some reason lol I tried a few channels as suggested by TH-cam but have found several to be soooo hard to listen to due to commentary over the zoom calls. Thank you for doing one that doesn’t sound like three radios playing different stations.
I'm so glad you're enjoying the way I do commentary!
Who knew my new pasttime would be spending time on YT watching CPS cases!
Strange isn’t it lol
I play the livestreams all day in my office. They're so interesting and it satisfies my nosy nature.
Then I fins myself responding to lawyers questions with "Yes, sir!" or "No sir" amd yelling at the lawyers, as if I was in court ! 🤣🤣
Me to! I watched literally all day yesterday and through the night till I noticed that the sun was coming up and it's now 9pm!🤣
Me too. My daughter worries about my obsession!! I told her it's better than my previous obession of shopping online all day & cheaper!!😢😊
I was surprised that the parents seemed so unaffected by the announcement that the agency isn’t seeking reunification 😮
Because they're still getting high...dope is king in their junkie world.
@@shellyohh5711 yup
Some people should just never be parents but I agree with your point
@@mr.waldodebaldo3208 thanx …
I don't even know how I'd react to hearing that, I would not just be chilling on camera I know that much
9:14 why is the dad Garret smiling? They are higher than groceries 😢 poor babies
I live for your commentary and always agree.
I have Dermatrillomania and Trichotrillomania.
People just don't understand those at all.
People like these parents, give my conditions a VERY bad name by blaming their drug use on it.
I've dealt with derm and trich myself, and agree completely!
Absolutely. One of my girlfriends in school had trichotrillomania from ocd and anxiety. She needed medication and therapy and felt like people could see it
Glad to know I'm not alone. I thought I was just weird lol.
OK... but meth can cause it as well.
@@awkwardautistic Thats basically what I just said in my comment. Blaming my disease when they do meth, gives my conditions a very bad name and Ive had people accuse me of meth use.
I Love Tarah Wright. She is so good at her job and really cares. A shining star in the otherwise not-so-good appearing Texas CPS
My, my. These parents aren't going to have their children home for a long time, if ever. It's a real shame how people can get so screwed up at such young ages.
18 months of not doing 1 single thing to get those babies back. They should be stripped of their parental rights, they've had more than enough time. I pray for those innocent babies.
After watching this I prayed for the children to be blessed in life with the struggle they are in I hope they get a good family
Where these parents and the previous parents live is very rural Texas. Meth. is rampant. These people will never get those babies back.
The lawyers for the defendants are awwwwwwwffffuuuuullllll.
I’m sry, but they are.
There was a hearing on this case yesterday. Aaron's haven't done anything on their service plan and Dad flipped out at the hospital so visits have been stopped, the caseworker is in fear for her own safety
I'm so upset that I missed that! I'm going through everything to see if I might have caught it without realizing because I was in Lockwood much of the day lol
Where do y’all watch these live?
@@seelnacht4625 there's a ton of channels in TH-cam that stream them live
@@OnTropolis oooooh have you found a recording of this???? I need to hear about Dad flipping out , etc….😮😮😮😮😮😮
I'm so happy I found your channel, I've been watching crime related videos since 2007 and I've seen practically everything, I'm all crimed out lololol.. I've been benge watching for days, I appreciate your hard work 💙
The system cannot handle the number of abused and neglected children, how will this ever end?
Meth sores. Anxiety is a common excuse for meth sores because it explains picking, irrational behavior, being jittery, etc.
The chemicals from meth that come out through your skin can cause a lot of issues for children if it comes in contact with them. Rashes, sores, and sometimes they can test positive for meth if there are somewhat large amounts of fluid excreted and spread. That's their main cause of concern. especially, since one of the kids got a rash after a visit. They should have drug tested him/her.
It's really sad.
I had no idea, so freaking sad for the kids. Thanks for the information.
I can’t imagine being in the situation where losing my child was even a possibility, but even worse losing a child and not having one family member or friend able to step in is so sad, they don’t know one sober person with a job that can help?
Sometimes family is afraid because they know the parent will insist and avoid all rules to interfere. You, as a family member are not only taking in a child, but tying themselves to 2 drug dependant, irrational parents. Sometimes a stranger (well intentioned) is the only hope for children.
Some of us just don’t have family. If my kids were little again and that was me I would have had not 1 person I could have called. Sad it’s like that sometimes.
I have a big family but no one could or would take my 2yr old twins while me and their father got clean . I can't blame them...2yr old twins is a big job and one of my twins has cerebral palsy and needs a lot of extra care.
Grow up
For almost forever, it's been my understanding that lawyers live by a rock-solid rule: Never ask a question which you don't know the answer. Especially when it involves your own client. Yet the lawyer representing the mother didn't know the results of a drug test from more than a month ago.
Come on - the sores are a side effect of meth addiction.
he just got appointed to represent lying meth heads who had their kids taken away, no one wants them to get those kids back right now. they're going to end up selling them for drugs
Ms. Wright is on top of things.
Nothing like having your clients show up for court gakked out of their minds.
So incredibly sad that parents will choose drugs over their flesh and blood. I mean I get that addiction is real, but it is possible to get clean. If the motivation is there.. if your kids don’t get you to shape up, nothing will.
This so called mother is so out of it. Give it up and let this child have a good life.
That's where I was going, OnTropolis. I immediately thought she was smoking meth or crack, both which makes you want to pick your skin.
Excoriation disorders- (dermatillomania and trichotillomania specifically) are both self picking disorders that could cause sores and the picking that cause then. Just wanted to make sure that an alternative cause was represented for the picking. Because sometimes its not drugs.
As per the sores…if it is indeed not the anxiety disorder the mom says it is, which it could be (just not sure I buy it tho- especially if she has used meth as her primary drug, but…)then yes, using meth can def cause those sores from itching & picking, rinse, repeat…
But smoking crack? Rarely does that cause those or any other body/face sores. I’m a PT substance abuse counselor for about 15 years now, & Ive only seen a couple of addicts who used crack as their DOC & ever had sores anything like meth addicts get or even anything close. Crack is not body addictive like meth or heroin, or not too much, thus it doesn’t cause the phantom skin itches, the anxiety-caused skin picking, or the sensation of ‘bugs’ crawling under the skin, etc…not to say it can’t happen, but crack & meth are quite different drugs & on top of that, they don’t affect ppl all the same way. For many reasons. Just offering info here is all. Peace ✌🏻 😊
For sure, I actually shared a definition for Dermatilomania in the video :)
I wouldn't have the grace to not call out that scuz ball calling me a liar
"We had a come to Jesus meeting" 😂 I love good 'ol boys!
Did the mom’s lawyer seriously ask her if she has fleas?!!
Judge Lockwood is my favorite of the judges.
Lockwood is my 2nd favorite behind Stuckey. Both are pretty solid and fair on their judgments.
These two are heading for a parental rights hearing.
Definitely
Thanks for another whopper, OnTropolis! Well, he knows his grandpa was a member of a tribe "because of things he had up in his house". What he doesn't know is that Walmart sells Native American-style rugs & linens & "art". I'll bet neither of them has any true NA blood. If they want to claim that to benefit themselves, then they should have to know more about the family's NA ancestry. Defo drug+, why else refuse to test? I thought meth sores as soon as they started talking about them, then I thought maybe scabies or impetigo, then when the December drug test results were discussed I was back to meth sores. I just want to love up all the children who have horrible parents like these.
Exactly! Irritating when ppl jump on the tribal band wagon, it’s pretty disrespectful to us natives that are factually enrolled.
To be a member of the Cherokee Nation, you must prove Cherokee by blood. This requires having names of ancestors at least back to the Dawes Roll. Once you have the names you are required to prove the lineage.
Time stamp? 🤦🏻♀️
Oh man, I hope these parent’s surrender to this process and get well for their kids. Meth is such a terrifying drug.
Did mom and dad go to the local nursing home to get their lawyers? Good grief Charlie Brown, I had to watch this at 1.25x just to keep MYSELF from nodding out when they were speaking 🤣
My first thought was the public defenders must be so backed they went to the retirement home to beg for anyone with a law background to come back
Lol
The father's brain is toasted
I didn’t know that you could be enrolled in a native tribe…..just by having native items in your home! Sheesh, there’s an awful lot of non natives out there, houses filled with fake dream catchers, mandelas, turquoise etc…who could be missing out on being enrolled then 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂. Ps. I’m an enrolled Tribal Citizen
@@upaige911 haha right! Aren’t we allll!
@@trishbowers3768 I literally am but OK lol
@@upaige911 oh! I’m sorry lol which tribe are you enrolled in? I’m enrolled in Confederated Tribes of the Siletz Indians of Oregon. I thought u were just joking.
I don't understand how there case is 18 months old, they are testing positive & they still haven't lost rights for older children?
Dads slurring his words…
Found this in 20 seconds on Google from a Social Security Administration's website snippet: "If you lost your card, you may not need a replacement. In most cases, simply knowing your SSN is enough. But if you do need a replacement, we make it easy."
It's my understanding that you need at least one grandparent, not a great-grandparent, who is/was a Native American to be eligible for benefits from the Bureau of Indian Affairs. In other words, a minimum of one-eighth heritage. (Correct me if I'm wrong, please!)
re the SSA card: I can see how he might need a card, as some (all?) employers need to make a photocopy of it.
Honestly the Department isn’t there for you HONESTLY!!!😳
I have the anxiety disorder that causes picking & I think she is lying. I mostly go after my face, arms & legs. There have been times my legs or arms were completely covered. Its also not something that happens all the time, I do have breaks where I don't have anything. It usually starts as an allergic reaction (I'm allergic to the world) & I just can't leave it alone. I have been diagnosed since I was a child. My mom would cut my nails thinking it would stop me. It didn't. My kids never once ended up with a rash or anything from being near me. I'm also really good about keeping what I can covered when I can. It's not easy & I struggle bad when I'm dealing with a flair up. The regret I feel is a whole nother story. This mom is on Meth.
I’ve dealt with this for periods of time as well, it’s awful. Certain medication’s makes it worse. Hydrocolloid Band-Aids helps tremendously just by keeping a barrier that heal really fast.
I’m exactly the same. Have had people presume I was on meth which wasn’t very nice on my mental health (and probably increased my skin picking!). I feel you! ❤
These two will never get the kid’s back I hope.
The future of these kids have little to no chance of future success if they remain with the parents
The tweaker with open sores. I've never heard of that before...
Gosh. These two are straight up posters for ‘drugs are bad, mmmm’kay’. Go show school kids these two and this would guarantee to keep some kids away from drugs.
Why is it so frequently allowed that the parent/s are not required to show themselves fully on camera? That alone is shady. Def a red flag.
Amazes me a person needs help to learn how to be a father. Just say it, they're both drug addicts
Wtg Tarrah you did the right thing.
It would be ditto here. Is that an actual legal response, lol.
how the hell do people exist without having their phsyical social security card?? i use it all the time for jobs, clearances, etc.
Haven’t had mine since I was a kid. Never needed it. Always was able to use a DL, Passport, &/or B cert if I was required to provide additional forms of ID…just saying
If you have other id and know the number you really don't need the card. That said I'm in Canada, but I've heard the same about many states
I haven’t had one since I was a teenager, but I have a passport, drivers license and birth certificate. I’ve never needed it.
because they're vagabonds.
Y’all desperately need #idealoption - we as a country need to invest in more addiction treatment centers- I have experience with this particular one in two states and love them. It works- fix addiction and we fix a majority of cps cases. These kiddos deserve better - it takes a village- thanks to all agencies protecting our future and making sure these babies have a fighting chance
Wonder why Ratcliff keeps looking at his secretary. Lol.
I don’t think being a crack head is contagious! 😂
Ontropolis has went from new to my list to top of my list with court channels one of my top two
Thank you so much 🥰
@@OnTropolis you do a damn good job please keep up the good work I tell everyone about your channel
Two fathers, don’t split the kids.
Fleas since 2 or 3 ???...Wow! Flea bites.
If the parents have no chance to reunite, why would they work the services? 😢😊
Moms expression @35:18 when the judge says they have to test clean from meth pr visits go back to virtual says it all. 😑
Thats horrendous about the open sores!!! Meth definitely does that to people, but to the extent cps is talking about it! Holy cow 😳
Meth sores… so disgusting. I’m not being judge mental but not save for those kiddos at all. Meth does come out of their pores in their skin and head
Ya- if they truly are meth sores she is likely too far gone into the drug. Little chance she will come back from it unless she survives nasty near death event. 🙁
Its actually dirty meth that does that to the skin.
Well produced meth will not have that kind of effects on the skin unless they twerk on skin.
Chemicals are crystallizing and comes like little spikes so small and unseen they pick and pick until they sores become ulcers from dirty fingers digging skin.
Meth heightens her anxiety, and she’s constantly touching them with her dirty fingers, making it impossible for them to heal. Meth doesn’t come out of the sores themselves, Unless you are referring to an injection site.
She could use Hydrocolloid Band-Aids, they make them in small circles the size of a sore, for just this purpose. It would keep bacteria out giving them a chance to heal.
It’s all very sad😞
@@All5AJz i’m not sure about dirty or clean meth but I’ve seen this happen to people who are prone to picking just from being prescribed Adderall, before you know it, it looks like they have the chickenpox.
@@Kthb80 you don't have to understand. Its just the nature of the beast.
I just recalled one of the first cases i reviewed for disability entailed an older woman was so certain she had parasites that she picked them off her body and saved them in baggies. She would take baggies packed full of skin flakes and scabs to her dr! No drugs. Just nutty as a fruitcake. 😳
@ruthlys I worked for a primary care physician. I worked in the lab as a microbiologist, so when someone would come in complaining of parasites, microscopic bugs, or alien implants, I would have to examine the contents of those horrific baggies under a microscope. In 32 years, I had one occasion where they actually DID have scabies. The rest of them were just like your lady. 🥜😂
@@thefloridamimi9278 it was soooooo sad. Disgusting. But sad. 🤣😳🤢
@@thefloridamimi9278 Yay! I'm not the only one who had to do this. I was the lead micro tech in a major city hospital with one of the only phyc wards in the area....
I think I saw or heard of a homeless lady putting worms in her skin! She would dig out little holes and stuff the worms in there. When they went to take them out she knew them by name!
As someone who loves a person with a mental health disability, I am so disappointed that a person in your position would use such derogatory language when speaking about the vulnerable population you serve. You should be ashamed of yourself.
This judge could read me to sleep
MY HEART BREAKS
Sounds like Meth sores or fenty sores
So I really wonder if they're telling the truth about the native American ancestry. The reason that a lot of people might hope for that lineage in a situation like this is because that's when the tribunal could step in and take custody of the child and CPS nor American laws can Trump that. Tribunals want native American children to stay within the tribe. Children would not be adopted out. Those parents would be taken into the reservation and given help and there's really no law in America that can supersede that. Go take a gander at the Indian child welfare act.
I've always been curious why they ask that specific question! I know what to look up now, thanks!
There's a new story deals with something like this. I also first heard about the Indian child welfare act for the documentary called kind-hearted woman on PBS. Sometimes the act works to the detriment of the child
they're definitely not native
Most tribes you only have to be 1/16th in order to be able to claim benefits. Lots of people at 6.25% don't look native. Most families in America have always claimed native American ancestry. But I have seen people with are as much as 20% verified with a DNA test who have light eyes, pale skin and freckles, and had no idea until a DNA test was taken. I cannot help but think after looking at their Facebook's that they are just bummy immature people and their DNA has never been verified.
@@elreytriton just curious how you know this? I am an enrolled Tribal member, so I was just wondering how you can tell by looking at them? ( i’m not disagreeing with you though. It is unlikely just from Heather talking.)
These lawyers are super old school.
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Moms sores sound like Meth sores. Many on that drug have the feeling of bugs crawling on their skin and will pick at it. They reused drug tests because they knew they would fail. The dad is delusional 🙀
For sure! They see stuff on their skin that simply isn’t there.
Haven’t watched your video to the end yet so you may know this 😂 I followed this case, there was an emergency hearing yesterday due to mom and dad having a big fight in front of CPS, both had visitations suspended until further notice from the court (pretty sure that’s what he said before they can begin again)
Oh really, I wonder if she has that?
Tell me you don’t care about your kids without telling me you don’t care about your kids. Cant even act normal for 5 seconds in front of cps. SMH.
Whoa good update, yet sad
Do you know what the name of the video was please. Or have a link?
@@Ammo2Ammo it’s Judge John Lockwood and pretty sure they delete videos at the end of each day, it was a quick hearing on his docket for the 25th or 26th.
Skin ulcers- yikes. Could be any number of issues. (Most issues are not contagious) but mom needs help!! If its not meth sores could be fatal.
Yea those are not ulcers I have one on my leg and trust me you sure the fk ain't picking it I'm awake so friggin tired right now cause of the pain cant sleep
@@mechanictaft4848 true! I was glad to hear there MIGHt be a non meth explanation. Seemed extreme tho
Every time I see Ed Tracy, I think of Truman Capote.
He doesn't sound like him, though Truman was a Southerner, too.
Did the dumb person say is it flees?
I have a history of dermatillonmania or excoriation disorder. It is an anxiety disorder similar to trichotillomania. However, that is without substance use. Since she is testing positive for meth she doesn't have that diagnosis. She has a substance use disorder that supersedes anxiety disorder. If she gets clean and is still picking then that's a legitimate diagnosis. Just not at this time.
I’ve watched many CPS cases that included a representative for Native Americans. They generally agree with the CPS department or have no opinion.
There have been news stories about heart wrenching cases of children being moved after years with a single caregiver or family, but I haven’t seen that play out in any of the cases on Zoom . The parents seem to think it will benefit them in some way. It might change their children’s living status, but I don’t think it will help their custody status , as the parents.
I started watching a hearing where dad was a bozo and they were asking him about emails he sent threatening caseworkers and step dad. I can't find it now???
I hate when that happens..I have a few opened cases I haven’t finished cause I can’t find them 😩
Did you look in your TH-cam watch history?
It's my Stepmonster Sabotage Video!
Oh wait not a step dad. That would be madness in Michigan there's 3-4 parts to it
In part two the lawyer jumps right in to emails and craziness from the dad
my husband is 80 and we have his social security
The thing that state gov'ts refuse to do is pay for long term rehab.
For drugs like meth & opioids, a minimum of 90 days is needed.
180 would likely raise the chances of success.
Most states will not pay for more than 14-30 days.
Thanks! I'm back from ❤ procedure and have some down time. Going to binge watch your uploads. 😊
Welcome back! Hope you heal quickly 🙂
@@OnTropolis Thank you. 🌹
It is not hard to order a birth certificate online, haven't mailed to your house, and then go down to social security and the DMV to get ID and are social security card. It's not hard
he's on dope he doesnt wanna work. he wants to get high and make more babies
I just have a general question. Why do they ask about Native American or Alaskan heritage?
There's a specific act for children of native heritage. ICWA (Indian child welfare act) and there are requirements for CPS cases or guardianships when a child has a tribal connection. The tribe has the right to be involved in the process to ensure that culturally appropriate things are taking place for any child removed from the parents. I have a few videos with ICWA involvement and find them quite interesting.
20:50 dad is even worse goodness sakes 😢
What’s with the guessing game in what drug it was. Just spit it out! 🙄
Cooking meth often causes sores like that...
I know syphilis can be a reason why people have sores on their body. A very bad case of it. And it can be transmitted at that point easily
True, but I think they're meth sores
Question: why do they ask about their possible native heritage and if they are part of a native tribe. I would love to know the legal reason, plz and thx
Seen Tarrah Wright on several cases I don't think she is fair sometimes. She seems a little snarky and snooty.
I have the Same Exact issue as her. I've had anxiety since childhood and I am a picker because of it. But it's only if I end up with some kind of scab that came from an injury. I don't actually just pick my skin into gross sores. But, unfortunately, I will have the same scab for months straight cuz I can't stop picking at it and let it heal properly. One summer, I legit looked like a junkie because I was getting bit by mosquitoes all over my legs and arms and I was scratching and picking at them so bad that they would end up scabbing and then I would pick them and pick them constantly so I would joke around to people that I swear I'm not a junkie LOL!
Not fleas.
If they want there kids back they need to request from the judge a new worker. This worker has no intention of letting them have there children back.
They should probably start having clean drug tests before they ask for anything
@@OnTropolis and work the plans
They should never have any children any where near them.
Mom may have scabies which is bothersom and contagious. She needs to see a dr.
More likely to be meth sores or opiate itch
I would love to see the follow up but can’t find it :(
It hasn't happened yet 😉 there is a hearing soon that I'm planning to get!
Mom either does meth, has skin lesions but probably not, bacterial infection which is most likely if child really broke out too. That, or the child has meth in their system. It can be 100 other things though, too, but sounds like meth.
They look related, are they siblings?
Why fight now n half ass it. This should of never got this far. I am a recovering addict and never did i put my son (only had 1 kid during that time) in danger. He was why i got clean. I couldnt care for him n use without him suffering. I know how hard it can be. The biggest mistake people make is tryin to hold on to the friends they used with. All they will do is try to take you down with them. I hope for the kids and their sake they get clean. Every child needs their parents, n no child should have to be in 2nd place to drugs or anything
Sad. Just sad. No one grows up thinking I want to be a terrible person and parent and prioritize the drugs killing be over my kids and everything else. Mandating them to rehab plus a long term aftercare program would or could do them wonders. If they completed getting and staying sober and had some real insight, and saw what life could be, maybe they’d be able to truly get on board. Until then, they’re not at rock bottom and who knows what is for this pair :(
The problem is that no one wants to pay for these services.
Did anyone else get itchy listing to this case, or just me? 😳
Garens right is his left? I know some drugs cause sores. Mother is not very convincing in saying she will go along with the plan. Why can't Garen get his own birth certificate. Accusing the case worker, calling her a liar. If he claims Native American Alaskan heritages, why did he keep shaking his head no when it was mentioned before. Jerk plus with attitude. Not father material!
"Nobody working services" is kinda confusing. Maybe "Nobody *seeking* services" would be less so?