What was not mentioned about Hayate, which quickly became one of my new favorite DDs in the game as a DD-main, is the guns have (obviously) IJN HE. They hit extremely hard and the fire chance (9%) is very high for a DD. I personally think its greatest weakness is, despite being a strong gunboat (and should be specced only for guns, including AFT), its rather slow rudder and large turning circle, which makes this boat vulnerable to enemy torpedoes, especially if you hunt DDs with better concealment. Medium range the Hayate can deal with pretty much every enemy DD, with a very few exceptions, thanks to the very high alpha damage. Hayate is the strongest hybrid DD and one of the strongest gunboats at T10 right now. One nice gimmick that I often use with great success is the torpedo reload booster. I use it right at the start of the game and torp caps or buff zones as soon as the torpedo range covers the target area. Enemy DDs often don't expect torpedoes so soon at game start, which often takes them off guard and I land surprising often torp hits on DDs that rush into caps. You have to know the usual capping spots (or path to intercept them) where DDs go to make it work though.
Don’t listen to bad comments about your mic quality; I thought it was mostly fine with some very short moments of wierd rss in a solid 3 hr video. Good overview, o my missing out on Hayate! Great little hybrid DD especially after the recent buffs, the thing is NUTS.
Duke of York dont have 5 guns in front and 3 in the back, but it has 6 guns in front and 4 guns in the back. It has 1 turret of 4 guns in front and in the back but it has 1 turret with 2 guns extra in front. So FRONT: 1*4 and 1*2 and BACK: 1*4
Yeah, it was a mistake in talking about the turrets. But its an Ok ship in my opinion. For new players, its not a bad pick. But there are way many better options.
Mostly coal ships are not that bad. But some are not strong either but they are still OK, ships(here I am talking about C tier which is satisfactory/average)
Coal per month, figure 3 coal containers a day being around 1600 every day. Then 12000 from the battle pass if they keep it about the same, but it is developing. So 12000+ (30x1600) or 48000= 60000 coal per month not counting other free stuff WG puts out for free. So 720000 coal per year. so what of the tier 10's per year. Also remember the clan buffs for coal income.
I average over 900k coal per year , you have forgot xmas coal bonus for me about 140k and this year anniversary 90k + 10% clan bonus + brawl 10k x3 sprints x12 = 360k ...
Really nice video and probably the most comprehensive version of the coal ship list. I agree with you 99.9% on your list as I own all but one of these ships and see the impact of the ships as you do 🙂 .
Are you build Your Iron man armor in a cave? JK. Very NICE list with a lot of positive reviews in a comment section. Really strongly recommend this guide before making any purchase.
Should i go Marceau or Napoli? I know how to play more as a DD than as a cruiser, but I found Napoli to be a very good cruiser, but I see many people saying that Marceau is very overpowered. I've never played with French Destroyers (without smoke) but I saw that they have very good torpedoes, good reload and an absurd speed. Which one do you recommend I get first? (I believe that I've already passed the learning curve of destroyers)
@@mrfikleborg6273 napoli since that cruiser is probably the most tankiest of all cruisers out there, good guns but dispersion can be wonkier sometimes, SAP secondaries as well as smokes. Buy that ship first.
I have enough coal saved up to literally buy any ship on the list. Originally, I was saving for the Black, but I keep thinking about the Forrest Sherman or Groningen instead. Haven't played anything with such a low reload time, though, and my fear is that some of the potential DPM will be lost when trying to shoot and maneuver at the same time. The 3.3 seconds of the Black may be more manageable than the 1.5/1.8 of the other two, making the realized DPM more on par. Am I wrong? The Holland is the closest tech tree ship at 2.0s, but I don't know if I want to grind that just to find out.
Groningen just from the pure firepower experience is better than black, but the sherman gets up one more notch from groingen due the absurd SAP damage you can do when getting broadsides of cruisers/battleships and killing destroyers. Overall, all three destroyers are really good picks but the black is powerful because of the radar/smoke combo, not from its gun power. So pick accordingly.
Yeah you are right. There are so many things in a particular ship that sometimes you might miss something. Thank you for the feedback! I will try not to miss these features in my upcoming videos.
I know it is your opinion but i think it is kinda overestimated T7 Flint and underestimated T7 Lazo : I only play PVE Operation ( too tired for toxic player in pvp) ,Flint has good DPM,as long as no bot aiming at you at 12km (which is not the case in pve since bots will mostly aim for the closest ship, nuke you up in HE rain from DD or Citadel from BB) ,limited use of Smoke wont help at the late game,120mm with 5 secs reload probably kill most DD in combat,but to CA and BB -not so much On the other hand,Soviet HE Spammer will burn everything at 20km provided that you are not run straight into enemy due to it high detect and paper armor, keeping distance is the key, Torpedo is only the last resort in close combat, The high shell arc help your shell elevate over terrain, Lazo required a lot of aiming and teamwork to make good use of it
Do you recommend the Groningen if I have the kitakaze? Specifically for ranked, I don't know if it's worth it or I'd better buy the kearsarge. Pls, help me.
Groningen is really Strong Destroyer, but if you have kitakaze, it will give similar experience in terms of firepower(but remember no torpedos on groningen) but now you have 5 km hydro to push into enemy destroyers and a great defensive tool from torpedos which kitakaze doesnot. If you really like battleships specially sniping battleships while also have some experience in aircraft carriers, I think kearsarge is a better pick than groningen. If you ask me personally, I pick Kearsarge first then groningen, since you have kitakaze which is a really strong destroyer as well.
Interesting, good job and like all of these it's subjective. Overall good. Played since Beta so IMHO However I wouldnt put the Sherman as broken. Its good at what it does but does has some pretty big draw backs and it's not just the ship it's self but how it fits into the game and winning said game as a team. It turns like a brick, it's not a great cap contester due to its concement and has only a few torps with awful angles. I have it and don't get me wrong it's very good, but it's not the next level. You spot it easy and it gets focused hard as it's big and turning is bad. It's a spammer not a game winning ship necessary. The Napoli would be the broken ship IMHO, hence why it's constantly used in CBs. Tanky as hell cruiser with smoke, hard hitting guns, long range torps, fighter plane and great secondaries.
I naught Malta yesterday and my old best damage was 145k, now I got 220k first game… after the “nerfs” in my opinion, the torpedoes are better than hakuruyu
Nice video but I would like to give you 2 advices if that is alright. U should really invest in a better microphone and also right ur script a bit down up front. Often u were repeating urself 😅 good luck further ahead
Comprehensive and detailed, i like it. But! You cant do a 3h video man... if you prepared more and had more fluent speaking. Stop saying " ...ok?" Plus you repeat a lot. The sound reminded me of my time in University, kinda funny.
@@sarthakkadam7615 kearsarge if you like cv planes to attack with otherwise Iwami is another great option as a battleship with decent secondaries and torpedos.
Sherman is unfortunately very strong as a selfish damage farming ship. Its this nature and sluggish in general with no speed boost can downtier for some players from S to A tier. But it is SUPER FUN, specially if you have halsey legendary captain on it.
What was not mentioned about Hayate, which quickly became one of my new favorite DDs in the game as a DD-main, is the guns have (obviously) IJN HE. They hit extremely hard and the fire chance (9%) is very high for a DD. I personally think its greatest weakness is, despite being a strong gunboat (and should be specced only for guns, including AFT), its rather slow rudder and large turning circle, which makes this boat vulnerable to enemy torpedoes, especially if you hunt DDs with better concealment. Medium range the Hayate can deal with pretty much every enemy DD, with a very few exceptions, thanks to the very high alpha damage.
Hayate is the strongest hybrid DD and one of the strongest gunboats at T10 right now. One nice gimmick that I often use with great success is the torpedo reload booster. I use it right at the start of the game and torp caps or buff zones as soon as the torpedo range covers the target area. Enemy DDs often don't expect torpedoes so soon at game start, which often takes them off guard and I land surprising often torp hits on DDs that rush into caps. You have to know the usual capping spots (or path to intercept them) where DDs go to make it work though.
Very nice insights on hayate.
Hayate is really strong now without a doubt.
are you filming in a well?
3 hour's long material about coal ships. Bro you are epic thank you so mutch :)
Most comprehensive coal tier list on You-tube. Learnt a great deal. Enjoyed alot. Thx.
Don’t listen to bad comments about your mic quality; I thought it was mostly fine with some very short moments of wierd rss in a solid 3 hr video.
Good overview, o my missing out on Hayate! Great little hybrid DD especially after the recent buffs, the thing is NUTS.
Thanks for the motivation and feedback. Hayate is definitely a very decent pick and can turn around games specially with the recent buffs.
Duke of York dont have 5 guns in front and 3 in the back, but it has 6 guns in front and 4 guns in the back. It has 1 turret of 4 guns in front and in the back but it has 1 turret with 2 guns extra in front. So FRONT: 1*4 and 1*2 and BACK: 1*4
Yeah, it was a mistake in talking about the turrets. But its an Ok ship in my opinion. For new players, its not a bad pick. But there are way many better options.
Nice to have an easy description of these ships! nice too to see that the premium ships I have are not D list ships!
Mostly coal ships are not that bad. But some are not strong either but they are still OK, ships(here I am talking about C tier which is satisfactory/average)
Coal per month, figure 3 coal containers a day being around 1600 every day. Then 12000 from the battle pass if they keep it about the same, but it is developing. So 12000+ (30x1600) or 48000= 60000 coal per month not counting other free stuff WG puts out for free. So 720000 coal per year. so what of the tier 10's per year. Also remember the clan buffs for coal income.
I average over 900k coal per year , you have forgot xmas coal bonus for me about 140k and this year anniversary 90k + 10% clan bonus + brawl 10k x3 sprints x12 = 360k ...
Really nice video and probably the most comprehensive version of the coal ship list. I agree with you 99.9% on your list as I own all but one of these ships and see the impact of the ships as you do 🙂 .
There is nothing strange about Italian BB not having SMOKE, if it would be cruiser or Destroyer it would have a smoke for sure.
Not sure why everyone is giving u shit ab the mic. Didn’t even think ab it till i clicked on the comments lol. Great vid man!🤙🏽
Are you build Your Iron man armor in a cave? JK. Very NICE list with a lot of positive reviews in a comment section. Really strongly recommend this guide before making any purchase.
Unfortunately, I had a terrible mic so apologies, but now I have got the new mic for better voiceovers.
Should i go Marceau or Napoli? I know how to play more as a DD than as a cruiser, but I found Napoli to be a very good cruiser, but I see many people saying that Marceau is very overpowered. I've never played with French Destroyers (without smoke) but I saw that they have very good torpedoes, good reload and an absurd speed. Which one do you recommend I get first? (I believe that I've already passed the learning curve of destroyers)
@@leovictor4275 marceau is first pick then napoli
Laso is good when you can play this ;)
salem,moskva or napoli? i am an good azuma player(the only coal cc i have) what should i go for that i can use my cc skils?
@@mrfikleborg6273 napoli since that cruiser is probably the most tankiest of all cruisers out there, good guns but dispersion can be wonkier sometimes, SAP secondaries as well as smokes. Buy that ship first.
I have enough coal saved up to literally buy any ship on the list. Originally, I was saving for the Black, but I keep thinking about the Forrest Sherman or Groningen instead. Haven't played anything with such a low reload time, though, and my fear is that some of the potential DPM will be lost when trying to shoot and maneuver at the same time. The 3.3 seconds of the Black may be more manageable than the 1.5/1.8 of the other two, making the realized DPM more on par. Am I wrong? The Holland is the closest tech tree ship at 2.0s, but I don't know if I want to grind that just to find out.
Groningen just from the pure firepower experience is better than black, but the sherman gets up one more notch from groingen due the absurd SAP damage you can do when getting broadsides of cruisers/battleships and killing destroyers. Overall, all three destroyers are really good picks but the black is powerful because of the radar/smoke combo, not from its gun power. So pick accordingly.
Its a good video, but you could have gone over the consumables too... For example, the improved german hydro on Ägir
Yeah you are right. There are so many things in a particular ship that sometimes you might miss something. Thank you for the feedback! I will try not to miss these features in my upcoming videos.
I know it is your opinion but i think it is kinda overestimated T7 Flint and underestimated T7 Lazo :
I only play PVE Operation ( too tired for toxic player in pvp) ,Flint has good DPM,as long as no bot aiming at you at 12km (which is not the case in pve since bots will mostly aim for the closest ship, nuke you up in HE rain from DD or Citadel from BB) ,limited use of Smoke wont help at the late game,120mm with 5 secs reload probably kill most DD in combat,but to CA and BB -not so much
On the other hand,Soviet HE Spammer will burn everything at 20km provided that you are not run straight into enemy due to it high detect and paper armor, keeping distance is the key, Torpedo is only the last resort in close combat, The high shell arc help your shell elevate over terrain, Lazo required a lot of aiming and teamwork to make good use of it
Do you recommend the Groningen if I have the kitakaze? Specifically for ranked, I don't know if it's worth it or I'd better buy the kearsarge. Pls, help me.
Groningen is really Strong Destroyer, but if you have kitakaze, it will give similar experience in terms of firepower(but remember no torpedos on groningen) but now you have 5 km hydro to push into enemy destroyers and a great defensive tool from torpedos which kitakaze doesnot. If you really like battleships specially sniping battleships while also have some experience in aircraft carriers, I think kearsarge is a better pick than groningen. If you ask me personally, I pick Kearsarge first then groningen, since you have kitakaze which is a really strong destroyer as well.
Interesting, good job and like all of these it's subjective. Overall good. Played since Beta so IMHO However I wouldnt put the Sherman as broken. Its good at what it does but does has some pretty big draw backs and it's not just the ship it's self but how it fits into the game and winning said game as a team. It turns like a brick, it's not a great cap contester due to its concement and has only a few torps with awful angles. I have it and don't get me wrong it's very good, but it's not the next level. You spot it easy and it gets focused hard as it's big and turning is bad. It's a spammer not a game winning ship necessary. The Napoli would be the broken ship IMHO, hence why it's constantly used in CBs. Tanky as hell cruiser with smoke, hard hitting guns, long range torps, fighter plane and great secondaries.
i really like the sound, its like im in a church or some shit, pretty dope, thanks for the tier list !
Hello kawasaki2943, thank you for the invitation and thank you for all the simplified videos, good luck, I will come regularly for a visit. 👍
Always welcome
I naught Malta yesterday and my old best damage was 145k, now I got 220k first game… after the “nerfs” in my opinion, the torpedoes are better than hakuruyu
Baught*
You forgot the Blyskawica tho, other than that pretty good video, thx for 3 hrs of your time)
Yeah man. I forgot that ship. Poor Blyska. 🥲
I have Blysca and frequently forget her.....:(
could you show us which are the best ways to make credits, and which ships are best at it
Yes Absolutely. I will try to make a video in couple of days.
Also idk if you can but if you add timestamps that would help, but great tier list ❤
I have updated it now :D
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Nice video but I would like to give you 2 advices if that is alright. U should really invest in a better microphone and also right ur script a bit down up front. Often u were repeating urself 😅 good luck further ahead
I fixed the mic in my latest videos, and the other one kind of solved as well :D
Subscribe and like with Bell....😊 Only cause your voice( words) r much more clear than other and detail information 😊😊
like your viedeo, although i your mic with that sound in the background is a bit annoying. I also like that you explain everything in depth
Comprehensive and detailed, i like it. But! You cant do a 3h video man... if you prepared more and had more fluent speaking. Stop saying " ...ok?" Plus you repeat a lot.
The sound reminded me of my time in University, kinda funny.
thx man all very usefull
which battleship i should purchase the kearsarge or the iwami please response to my msg bother i want battleship only
@@sarthakkadam7615 kearsarge if you like cv planes to attack with otherwise Iwami is another great option as a battleship with decent secondaries and torpedos.
@@uravgwargamer3300 I can't control planes tbh
So what should I do
@@sarthakkadam7615 Simply Get Iwami Then
@@uravgwargamer3300 what abt krugfest bro is it a better ship
u4501 is a rubber duck now.
are you kiding me? Pommern is top A!
thank you
i don't think that you are right about sherman, it was downgraded compered to real thing, and i'd like to see you try to cath up to a good sub player.
Sherman is unfortunately very strong as a selfish damage farming ship. Its this nature and sluggish in general with no speed boost can downtier for some players from S to A tier. But it is SUPER FUN, specially if you have halsey legendary captain on it.
If Sherman is s Malte is def s too its so isane strong its much more than a Tier
Malta is almost an S Tier, its just having really bad armor and not really decent enough AA which pull it to borderline overpowered carrier.
@@uravgwargamer3300 yeah i don’t agree that much on the Sherman and Malta but that’s my opinion
Hi! Very well.
Who is kawasaki2943 ? is it you?
your sound likes a you are talking at the conference meeting room.
I think the echo from my room is causing this. I apologise for this inconvenience.
bro you have 100%credit how i have 90 50 +40%?. plazz show in next gameplay
Ok sure
sTrOnK.........Thank You....
bros giving a conferance
strange acoustic
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kill the echo ;-)
My recent videos doesnot have these issues. I am sorry for this inconvenience.
The mic issues... just stop.
I am sorry for the inconvenience from the background noise. I will hopefully not have these issues again.
are you sitting in a cave?
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