Trangia gas burner VS noname gas burner
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- Testing different burners into Trangia cooking set. The main reason for this test is to see the difference of the burners when using the gas canister upside-down. This can be helpful in specially cold conditions 🥶
Edit: The no-name burner is most likely a GoSystem burner.
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Thanks for sharing!
I bought the no name fad burner, works fine and less than 1/4 of the Trangia one.
there are 2 different versions of the primus burner for trangias, the one in this video has what i call the vertical valve because the valve knob is vertical when the canister is upright. the vertical valve burners don't work properly with the canister inverted. the other version is what i call the flat valve, the valve stem is inline with the fuel hose and the valve has a 360-degree swivel connection to the hose. the flat valve version works properly with an inverted canister. i have 2 flat valve burners and 1 vertical valve burner and even though both burner designs look the same, i have no idea why one works with the canister inverted and the other one doesn't.
I have the “go-gas” version of the Trangia burner, cost about £25 on eBay I think, like you say it’s a “flat valve “ affair and works great if inverted, maybe just a hint of pulsing but certainly no flaring. Thanks for sharing, kind regards from deepest Dorset UK.
I bought a no name burner under the 'bulin' name on Ebay for $16 to use with my firebox stove and have been so happy with it that I've ordered another. Great video!
what tipe of firebox you have? i hope is working with firebox nano
Likewise for my Lixada folding stove...the Chinese are producing some great quality equipment now. I use these with a Toaks Ti6300 multi cooker and am very impressed
I have the horizontal control trangia burner and I use the Companion 4 season mix gas cans. I used it this morning -2C didn't have to invert can ran flat out. Have put the whole lot into deep freeze no change worked fine. Slow until pipe heated up then away it went. 4 season mix is the best I have found for winter use. Hope this helps.
Works fine, Worth the money, Warms the food okay, Thx For demo !!
Good demonstration of how bad this stove is with an inverted canister.
utmerket, takk!
My Primus burner made for and stamped Trangia does not have the problems yours seems to. I’m not doubting your testing, I saw it all for myself, but mine works fine in vapor and liquid feed positions.
IamETOH I’ve heard that others with the trangia gas burner also as you can burn liquid feed, must be produced earlier than mine or something. I wonder to modify mine, get the pre heating pipe closer maybe that helps. Should have compared productions numbers :)
With Trangia gas burner primus system with side adjuster works very well .
Thanks, good video.
Thanks for showing this Johan as I was thinking of a Trangia burner for my Lixada folding stove setup and found the Chinese Bulin at 20% of the cost to be excellent...was surprised and pleased. The Chinese seem go be making some good stuff nowadays..they seem to be making progress in quality control too. I am happy with Toaks and Keith titanium gear too at a fraction of the Snowpeak.
Where did you get the no name burner and would you say it’s better than the Trangia burner? The trangia one is expensive. Thanks for the video.
C Lewis the burner was bought at a Norwegian store called Magasinet.no and I now believe this is a GoSystem burner. These you’ll also find internationally.
I will be using the GoSystem burner for the cold part of the year, much better for me to have the possibility to burn on liquid-gas. I also find the quality on this good so if are wandering which to buy I would have chosen this.
Johan Sætran thank you for the information. Now I have a name instead of just looking for a no named burner. GoSystem 👍🏽
Bulin means "Walking in the forest" in Chinese. I've been using their various canister stoves and some of them are even better or same qualities than/as MSR reactor of Soto stoves in fraction of cost.
Nice video.
This is an interesting review. I will check out the original one anyway, because it can always happen that you get a "Monday piece" = a piece from a bad batch which is not representative of the overall product performance. Moreover, I don't like buying products directly through Alibaba or similar from China, because they kind of come with no warranty, .i.e. one that you can't really make use of (high shipping costs, no return management, basically trouble - tried that in the past and it was not worth it to me). I also don't have a need for a perfectly even flame at a high flow. Don't use a high flow most of the time and prefer to use the alcohol stove and just have gas as a backup (or the other way around, let's see how mine will perform...). This was still helpful to me though and interesting to see. Now I know that the points made aren't really any trouble for my use case. Too bad you don't have more videos. Gear reviews are gold on TH-cam! I hate making them but they really are ;-D
The original one is a good burner, can’t go wrong with that one if your not often use it in freezing condition. Even and stable regulation on the flame!
Appreciate your comment!
@@johanstran2433 Thanks! Yes, I'm not using it in high altitude (or winter). Not for now. I would prefer gasoline then, I think. What is your opinion on that? We always used this back in the day. I am getting back into hiking after a longer break...
@@UndineAlmani I use gasoline (primus omnilite ti) in cold conditions now, it’s only for efficiency but a gas stove is more convenient for the rest of the year. Cleaner and easier. And I find it safer to use in the tent.
@@johanstran2433 Ah cool! I'm originally from the GDR, and we had one called "Juwel". I even find the alcohol stove easier = safer to use for myself, but I only cook in the free area. For the apsides, gas is probably the best... I just like that it is completely silent and I am just more comfortable with the handling.
@@UndineAlmani yes the complete silence is absolutely a plus, gives you a special calm when your listening to the sound of nature and looking into the warming flame 🔥
The instructions tell you to use with the canister in the upright position
the boil time would be pretty close i imagine....
trangia gas burner is expensive ! i bought alocs cookware set with alcohol and gas burner which costs less than the trangia burner ! it performs great !
Great test. I have some Trangia stuff as well, but could not decide on the gas burner yet. With the gas burners you show and the Trangia storm kit you use, do you know the distance between the burners head and the bottom of the pot? Is that maybe 30mm? Thanks.
soundscollector Thanx, I will check the clearance next time I am home 🙂
I like the no name burner. I found mine on ebay under the ‘bulin’ name.
I got one too...just as good as Trangia at 20% of the cost...had low expectations but was impressed. It's been great
Thank you, you saved me some money when I was almost starting to buy goSystems burner.
@@fromtheflightdeck252 Short term gain, seals and control valve wear out quickly and of course there is the ethical side, most burners are made by virtually slave labour. All the best stay safe.
@@Sparky-ov1ot have you proven this by using both ‘official’ trangia model and noname brand? Thanks
I'm having trouble finding a knock off burner. All the ones i find have legs. Could someone point me in the right direction?
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Ok so perhaps I'm a bit naive or just stupid, but isn't the canister designed to sit one way, not upside down? And why would you want to do this anyway?? Please I do apologise if I'm not getting this but I'm just looking to understand the why of this.
liquidvic turning it upside down will increase the performance in colder conditions. Butane has higher evaporate temp than propane so you end up burning all the propane and not the butane if it is cold enough. The butane/propane mixture can separate. This does not happen when burning upside down/liguid form and you will get greater performance/efficiency from the canister.
I had no idea…. Thanks….It's true…….You learn something new every day.
@@liquidvic I have an MSR Whiperlite Universal that comes with a gas canister stand that holds the canister inverted for this reason.
coleman exponent had a line of canister stoves that used special canisters called powermax which fed liquid fuel to their burners. they were very good stoves but didn't sell well enough, so coleman discontinued them.
Interesting..
Try the trangia gas burner again with the wind shield on and a pot of water to boil. I'm thinking that the enclosed burner in the wind shield and pot will reflect more heat to the vaporiser tube and reduce flare up?
Mike Bland
I have tried with the windshield and pot and ended up with the same results. Many others who have the trangia gas stove is able to burn liquid gas but that may be a different model. Will try to bend the heating pipe closer to the heat.
@@johanstran2433 Hi Johan. Did you try bending the heating pipe closer to the flame?
Gas burner has major flaws- you can't go stealth camping, and not always will you find a gas carnisters
What is currently your favorite stove or combination of stoves?
Mainly winter/cold trips last years so my primus omnilite has been the chosen one often. Both with gasoline and propane/butane gas.
If I’m on a trip with some “finer” cooking I really appreciate the trangia set with the noname burner. Good windshield, even heat and easy to adjust. And stable!
@@johanstran2433 how reliable do you believe the Omnilite Ti to be in general but particularly if you needed to burn unleaded gasoline (rather than ‘white gas’)? When it come to burning vehicle fuels I just have a hard time believing anything but the MSR stoves like Whisperlite, Dragonfly and XGK would be any length of time reliably? And even then from memory on MSR’s warranty statement they only guarantee the XGK to burn unleaded. Berniedawg commented that is because it is the only stove that reaches sufficient heat to also burn the additives in unleaded gasoline. But at least the Whisperlite and Dragonfly also have the cleaning rod in the fuel hose to scrape out the black hardened residue that builds up burning dirty fuels, even the Optimus Polaris would need a hose replacement if that happened 🤔
@@impermanenthuman8427 I have used the omnilite TI 98% on clean alkylate petrol. The same 4-stroke fuel many uses on their garden equipment.
Had to clean the burner truly in the beginning to remove all the fabrication residuals like oils, wax etc after that no problems. Just preheat the stove properly and take a quick clean now and then.
The noname is way better than Trangia!
If it’s too cold for the gas vapor to start burning in the first place how do you get the tube to heat up so liquid can be vaporized? 🤔 wouldn’t a bit of alcohol be needed to prime it? But there isn’t a dish under it like in the multifuel stoves like Optimus Polaris and Whisperlite universal, both burn canisters upright and inverted plus liquid fuels too, there is a trangia adapter for the Optimus Nova which is their dedicated liquid fuel stove but I wonder if the Polaris fits in it?
The British Marines chose the Optimus Polaris as their official stove, I have seen a vid of a guy who just takes the ‘legs/pot supports’ off the Polaris and just places the burner bell on the ground in the trangia stove center hole but not sure how stable/safe that would be?
But the Polaris gives options of canister upright/inverted, white gas, kerosene (if primed with something more volatile), gasoline (unleaded but only if desperate as it burns dirty and can clog the stove with hard black deposits)
In the gas canisters you have a mix of propane and butane. The propane have a lower boiling point than butane so the propane will burn enough in the beginning to pre-heat the burner. In cold temperatures the propane will burn first because the butane isn’t converting to gas and therefore ending up with very low efficiency when the propane is empty. If you holding the canister up side down the two gas mixes is in liquid form and is therefore mixed, so you burning equal of both.
Polaris is a good all rounder, but I prefer a stove that have dedicated nozzles to each mediums. Mainly because this gets the cleanest burn and the lowest Carbon monoxide production. Important if you’re using the stove in the tent. I am using the primus omnilite, happy with this one.
I have seen an adapter to both nova and Polaris to trangia somewhere but can’t remember where. Maybe on the trangia webpage or some other dealers, so many possibilities 👍🏻
@@johanstran2433ah yea that makes sense! thanks for the education 👍🏻 so can you use an adapter in the trangia with the Omnilite Ti?
I’m a complete beginner with backpacking/camping stoves but I have a leaning towards prepping/survival too, so I ended up with both a Whisperlite Universal and an Optimus Polaris due to their reliability and ability to burn a diversity of fuels well, I also bought a Soto Windmaster for summer hikes when keeping weight down is critical and just planning to only boil rather than ‘cook’
If I had to have chosen just one stove it would have been the Omnilite Ti, it is quite light compared to most multifuel stoves, and I would trust it to burn canister gas or pure white gas reliably and cleanly, but IF I needed to burn gasoline or anything dirty they are harder to maintain and clog up badly for extended use in a ‘grid-down’ scenario where I would need to take it apart to clean it regularly and risk losing little parts etc
As well as working in a Trangia does it also burn canister fuel inverted? I like the idea of burning fuel inverted because then you can use cheap pure Butane once primed somehow?
Thanks again
@@impermanenthuman8427 Yes I have seen some people use omnilite in trangia, not sure if they’re using the nova adapter or the trangia multi fuel adapter but I am sure you can make something fit.
Some nice stoves you got yourself there! I use canister gas and white gas on mine, burns nicely. Important so get known with your burner and have some spares/cleaning equip with you on your trips. Touché if some bad fuel or something ruins the trip.
As long as the temperature is above cooking point on the butane it’s possible, needs to be above to create enough pressure in the canister. You also must keep in mind the cooling effect gas creates when it’s vaporizing inside the canister. Maybe you have seen/felt this? You often can see condensation on the outside of the canister. Burning upside down helps with this problem. I have not tested pure butane but in warm climate this shouldn’t be a huge issue, maybe some lower heat output.
@@johanstran2433 thanks again for the advice 👍🏻
Anyone know if the no names work with a Fireboxstove Nano?
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