The Lutjens is actually an American Charles F. Adams class destroyers that were built to German specifications. As a heads up, any American 5 inch guns in the time frame that the game covers are 127mm, not 125. Typically naval 3 inch naval guns are 76mm. And the Israeli Sa’ar 1, 2 and 3 classes are based on the Jaguar class, not the Tiger The torpedo like objects at the back of the mine sweeper are called paravanes. Paravanes are towed behind the ship at set depths and positions and function one of two ways: either they cut the mooring lines of mines, causing them to float to the surface where they can be easily destroyed or they emulate the signature of particular ships, causing the mine to detonate. Hence the name minesweeper, they are acting as literal brooms to sweep the sea of mines
The part with the Sa'ar is incorrect. While Israel was interested in the Jaguar (which has a wooden hull), germany was not allowed to export them. As the german navy was already planing a new boat, these plans where handed over to France, who built one La Combatante (similar to Jaguar) and then evolved that to La Combatante II, which is the base for the Sa'ars as well as for the german Tigers. Those all have Metal Hulls. Interestingly Iran also got some La Combatante II boats, but i don't know how they named them and what weapons they got.
@ as I said, they were BASED ON the Jaguar. And the reason why the Sa’ar 1’s were built in France was due to Arab pressure on Germany not to export them to Israel. I talked about this in the comments of a previous video
"Initial British postwar reports claimed that Seacat had destroyed eight aircraft, but these did not stand up to scrutiny and no "kill" could be solely attributed to the Seacat, despite it being fired on many occasions."
@@grimreapers I think it's similar to how aircraft can get '0.5 kills' if two pilots essentially contribute to shooting down a plane. So it probably was done with the help of Sea Wolf, Sea Dart, various cannon AA (especially at San Carlos), or Harriers.
@@grimreapersKills beyond visual range in an engagement can be difficult to verify, especially during the seacat’s service life. In most cases, a solid track and launch where the target then drops from radar coinciding with the projected arrival time of the missile would usually consist a recorded kill, though it does vary.
The Lütjens was a destroyer, not a frigate. Actually it was the last ship in the German navy under the designation of a destroyer. Nowadays Germany only uses frigates, but they fulfill the same role and are about the same size, the more modern ones are even way bigger (the ones under construction have over 10.000 BRT vs. about 4000 BRT for the Lütjens).
@TimvanderVelden-dp3fs I guess that's why it's done. After all the designations are a lot of bs anyways. Look for Tyconderoga or Kusnezow or even Izumo.
@TimvanderVelden-dp3fs A frigate was the largest warship below a ship of the line of battle, an the designation have survived for centuries. Fast, very well armed scouts and escorts. Torpedo boat Destroyers are an odd class of ship designed to destroy the large steamgoing torpedo ships/torpedo rams, with superior guns, nimbleness and speed. However torpedo boats quickly fell out of favour to other torpedo delivery platforms, such as submqrines, motor torpedo boats (fast assualt crafts), and indeed the relativly large destroyers themselves. Tl/dr, frigate is a timeless class, destroyers are not
@@AttiliusRex Sure, you might be able to make an argument that something like Lütjens should be called a frigate. My point is that is not the reason that the "frigates" of some modern European navies, like Germany (or my own country, the Netherlands) are not called destroyers. That reason is mostly PR, I suspect.
@TimvanderVelden-dp3fs Exactly, it's just like Ticonderoga. They where plane as destroyers, but to get funding for the expensive ships they changed it to cruiser.
Yes!!! Another Adams class DDG. The German destroyers was the reason I got to participate in the exchange program with the German Navy. Spent 4 years teaching Germans about the MK 74 FCS. Also, the Sea Killer was a real POS. After are pre entering the Persian Gulf briefing, it was the one thing we were not worried about.
Yes! And the cables cut the chains securing floating mines to their anchors. These mines will then float to the surface where they may be destroyed by automatic weapons or small arms fire. They do not handle mines which lie on the seabed that are acoustically activated and launch a torpedo or detonate when a ship passes overhead depending upon type.
The Tiger class was developed in France, based on designs by the German Lürssen shipyard. Therefore, the French Exocet missile was probably used. And by the way, the Lütjens was a destroyer and not a frigate. 😉
Btw, with the NTU mod it changes the base Harpoon to fly at 53 ft while the A/U/RGM-84D variant flies at the normal 23 ft. Also, the Type 148 Tiger and La Combattante class are essentially the same ship, as well as some of the previously mentioned Sa'ar class patrol boats.
Well why is the german destroyer in the last battle targeting the smaller vessels instead of the iranian frigate? If it engaged the most dangerous iranian vessel first, things might have gone the other way. If anyone wants to visit the german destroyer, its a museum ship in Wilhelmshaven. Actually a very nice steam engined ship. Would like to see a 4v4 battle with allowed scout/ASW choppers in three variants: long range conventional missiles, mixed battle starting at 30 km, nukes between Long Beach, Adams, Spruance and Iowa against Kirov, Krupny, Juliett and Sverdlow.
The exocet entered service 1975 and the harpoon a couple of years later... the missile prior was an Ajax... though not sure if there was a surface to surface varient. Back to the point... perhaps the Germans had already contracted with the French for the exocet.
In any case, the penguins and exocets are once again proving to be absolutely nasty customers. I legit never felt bad in the game for using them. They always deliver. Its amazing.
In 1985 I think, there was a well known incident where a US carrier, possiby Uss America, sailed into Vestfjorden in Norway (the fjord between the Lofoten islands, and mainland Norway) participating in an exercise. Here she was attacked by a squadron of Norwegian mtb's. (possibly 6 Hauk class) They managed to sneak in and make a simulated fire of all their missiles and torpedoes. It was judged that the carrier would have been hit so many times that she would have sunk in a real battle. This showed the vulnerability for carriers in littoral waters, and it is said that the us navy took this so seriously that they changed their carrier doctriene. This may have saved them from real encounters like this afterwards. It could be interesting to see this simulated.
Watching these Sea Power battles has led me to realize I wish we had Cap back when I was in the USN as an EW in the ASMD role. All I would have had to do is ask Cap to say "There's absolutely no way we'll shoot down that missile! " or " It's going to get throoooooough! " And we would 100% defeat it every time. Cap is better than chaff, jamming, and torch flares combined.😅
@@FleetDefenderRA5 Yes Iran still has 3 of 4 Alvand class frigates. They did pretty well in the Iran-Iraq war but in 1988 the US came knocking and sank one and heavily damaged another. Funnily enough the one damaged in Operation Praying Mantis had to undergo a full rebuild and this actully allowed the Iranians to refit it with much more modern weapons like Chinese YJ-83s.
For the different altitudes of the Harpoon, Penguin and Gabriel missiles, Cap, I'd guess it has to do with the sea conditions in which the missile is intended to be used. IIUC, Israel's navy operates exclusively in the Mediterranean Sea, which never gets large ocean swells. Except in a storm, I'd guess the Med rarely sees waves more than a metre high. The USN operates mostly in the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, so there would be large waves even in the best weather. I have no idea why the Penguin flies so low, though. Either it's something to do with the Norwegian navy using the many fjords to even the odds against larger ships, or maybe it's an acknowledgement that penguins cannot fly . . .
Note that the 40mm L60 is the WWII version of the Bofors and the 40mm L70 is the post-WWII version: They don't use the same ammunition (40×311mmR vs 40×365mmR), the latter got twice the ROF and 50% more energy. More than 60,000 L60s were made, mostly by the US during WWII. In comparision the number of L70 seems to be between 5000 and 6000. It can be quite hard to tell which version a specific ship used: Often it just says "40mm", so you have to go to other sources to see if that country ever used the L70 at all, and even if they did there is no guarantee that this specific ship got the modern one. Zastava, OTO Melara and Breda (and probably others) also made L70s on licence, so the gun on the Alvand is a Breda made 40mm L70.
An aproximation would be that if the 40mm mount is manned by 4 and looks like a tub, its probably an L60, and if its an enclosed turret thats too small to house a more than a single crewmember its L70. And if its a double-barrel enclosed turret its a Breda version. If the models are correct the Alvand got a Breda Twin L70, Bayandor a dual L60, Kaivan a single-barrel L60, LaCombattante a single-barrel L70 and the Parvin a single-barrel L60. Tiger got what looks like a single-barrel L70, Hauk a single L60, Oslo a single L70, Sleipner single L60, and Snögg a single-barrel L60.
In answer to the question of the objects on the stern of the Sauda they are called an oropesa. These are torpedo-shaped towed bodies, similar in shape to a Harvey Torpedo, that are streamed from the sweeping vessel thus keeping the sweep at a determined depth and position.
Hello Do you know : le chant du loup ,a french movie ? And of course hunter killer with Gérald Butler ? Do you think you can make a kind of ...remakes ? All the best
Minesweeper hulls are made out of wood or fiberglass to be non-conductive non-metallic, and non-magnetic as much as possible. The stern deck systems are for mine detection, and I believe they should have something to tell behind them for setting the minds off as well well as Stern of the ship
...also, you could have been some of the unfortunate bastards who were out there before the minesweepers showed up on a Perry class with a bunch of Marines whose entire job was just to look for and shoot mines with a rifle and detonate them if they saw them. That was some BS.
@ Right? and the 22 is my badge number from after the navy I got a job as a fulltime firefighter. I guess I could have tried for more snapper name lol.
What I heard when I was visiting an active german minesweeper(Pegnitz) those torpedo-like things are for detecting and detonating mines. The german Marine uses similar drones who are equipped with mine-searching equipment, if one is detected they send down another guided torp with a Panzerfaust-3 head and let them detonate. Probably similar to the Norwegian Minesweeper tacitc
Cap, the reason Israeli missles fly so low because of the locations they are used. US launchs a missle in the Atlantic or Pacific it has to account for 20-40 ft waves. Israel will never see waves like that in the Red Sea or anywhere they would launch them. Also if you search World of Warships USS North Carolina. You will get a great look and explanation of the USS North Carolina firing computer for the 15" guns in IRL they did a great documentary on the Battleship.
In watching the Sea Power content, I am thinking that devs will need to revisit both ASM and interceptor logic. I just dont believe that either of them were that good/bad depending on conditions.
Sadly, due to recent events in the US, we may benefit from observing the results of a simulated battle between the US Navy and the rest of NATO in the North Atlantic. ANy interest in setting up and running one?
The Iranians still have a navy?, to consider the small force of Germany and Norway a real navy is a joke considering the past history of them. Try Iran vs Saudi Arabia, that is more likely than this scenario.
Cap - I know you like info on the Falkland's, here's a video of what my lot were doing at the time (before I joined so I wasn't there for obvious reasons), was ML1 before moving to the BPT when it reformed. th-cam.com/video/0E15d32ce4M/w-d-xo.html
@@grimreapers hi cap, if people subscribed for dcs several years ago they should either move with the times or no longer subscribe its a simple decision... Being an ex serviceman I subscribe for 51% the banter, and 49% for your content. Whatever you put out you always have the valued viewer in mind and are so articulate with that as well as making the suggested content as fair and as interesting to boot many people don't understand a 30 minute video takes 5+ hours minimum to do for little return. Your health troubles over the years as well as your new family take priority now, so I for one will not unsub until TH-cam makes it totally impractical or illegal for you to create this content. In a way these videos are like therapy for a lot of ex serving people who both want to remember the good times that they had but also remember the not so good times serving. You have the balance perfect with fun and the recollections of how things could have indeed ended up and sometimes did. Thank you cap and everyone else on the team...
The Lutjens is actually an American Charles F. Adams class destroyers that were built to German specifications.
As a heads up, any American 5 inch guns in the time frame that the game covers are 127mm, not 125. Typically naval 3 inch naval guns are 76mm. And the Israeli Sa’ar 1, 2 and 3 classes are based on the Jaguar class, not the Tiger
The torpedo like objects at the back of the mine sweeper are called paravanes. Paravanes are towed behind the ship at set depths and positions and function one of two ways: either they cut the mooring lines of mines, causing them to float to the surface where they can be easily destroyed or they emulate the signature of particular ships, causing the mine to detonate. Hence the name minesweeper, they are acting as literal brooms to sweep the sea of mines
The part with the Sa'ar is incorrect. While Israel was interested in the Jaguar (which has a wooden hull), germany was not allowed to export them. As the german navy was already planing a new boat, these plans where handed over to France, who built one La Combatante (similar to Jaguar) and then evolved that to La Combatante II, which is the base for the Sa'ars as well as for the german Tigers. Those all have Metal Hulls. Interestingly Iran also got some La Combatante II boats, but i don't know how they named them and what weapons they got.
@ as I said, they were BASED ON the Jaguar. And the reason why the Sa’ar 1’s were built in France was due to Arab pressure on Germany not to export them to Israel. I talked about this in the comments of a previous video
Brill thanks!!
"Initial British postwar reports claimed that Seacat had destroyed eight aircraft, but these did not stand up to scrutiny and no "kill" could be solely attributed to the Seacat, despite it being fired on many occasions."
I don't understand. Sure it either did or did not shoot the planes down? Why is there ambiguity(spelling)?
@@grimreapers I think it's similar to how aircraft can get '0.5 kills' if two pilots essentially contribute to shooting down a plane.
So it probably was done with the help of Sea Wolf, Sea Dart, various cannon AA (especially at San Carlos), or Harriers.
@@grimreapersKills beyond visual range in an engagement can be difficult to verify, especially during the seacat’s service life.
In most cases, a solid track and launch where the target then drops from radar coinciding with the projected arrival time of the missile would usually consist a recorded kill, though it does vary.
@@grimreapers it’s a shared kill, both a SeaCat gunner and a Rapier claim the kill.
The Lütjens was a destroyer, not a frigate. Actually it was the last ship in the German navy under the designation of a destroyer. Nowadays Germany only uses frigates, but they fulfill the same role and are about the same size, the more modern ones are even way bigger (the ones under construction have over 10.000 BRT vs. about 4000 BRT for the Lütjens).
"Destroyer" sounds very offensive and bad, after all. "Frigate" sounds way nicer.
@TimvanderVelden-dp3fs I guess that's why it's done. After all the designations are a lot of bs anyways. Look for Tyconderoga or Kusnezow or even Izumo.
@TimvanderVelden-dp3fs
A frigate was the largest warship below a ship of the line of battle, an the designation have survived for centuries. Fast, very well armed scouts and escorts.
Torpedo boat Destroyers are an odd class of ship designed to destroy the large steamgoing torpedo ships/torpedo rams, with superior guns, nimbleness and speed. However torpedo boats quickly fell out of favour to other torpedo delivery platforms, such as submqrines, motor torpedo boats (fast assualt crafts), and indeed the relativly large destroyers themselves.
Tl/dr, frigate is a timeless class, destroyers are not
@@AttiliusRex Sure, you might be able to make an argument that something like Lütjens should be called a frigate. My point is that is not the reason that the "frigates" of some modern European navies, like Germany (or my own country, the Netherlands) are not called destroyers. That reason is mostly PR, I suspect.
@TimvanderVelden-dp3fs Exactly, it's just like Ticonderoga. They where plane as destroyers, but to get funding for the expensive ships they changed it to cruiser.
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Yes!!! Another Adams class DDG. The German destroyers was the reason I got to participate in the exchange program with the German Navy. Spent 4 years teaching Germans about the MK 74 FCS.
Also, the Sea Killer was a real POS. After are pre entering the Persian Gulf briefing, it was the one thing we were not worried about.
Thanks Tom, good info.
They are called paravanes or water kites used to sweep enemy mines. The wings on it pull it laterally away from the towing ship.
Thank you!
Yes! And the cables cut the chains securing floating mines to their anchors. These mines will then float to the surface where they may be destroyed by automatic weapons or small arms fire. They do not handle mines which lie on the seabed that are acoustically activated and launch a torpedo or detonate when a ship passes overhead depending upon type.
NORWAYYY mentioned... lets go... my country
The Tiger class was developed in France, based on designs by the German Lürssen shipyard. Therefore, the French Exocet missile was probably used. And by the way, the Lütjens was a destroyer and not a frigate. 😉
Thanks!
Strange, I'm sure it was called Frigate in game. Probably me reading it wrong.
Lütjens is long time ago scraped....
Btw, with the NTU mod it changes the base Harpoon to fly at 53 ft while the A/U/RGM-84D variant flies at the normal 23 ft. Also, the Type 148 Tiger and La Combattante class are essentially the same ship, as well as some of the previously mentioned Sa'ar class patrol boats.
Thanks.
11:02 could be a wire between those two that sweeps the mines?
Pretty good guess.
Well why is the german destroyer in the last battle targeting the smaller vessels instead of the iranian frigate? If it engaged the most dangerous iranian vessel first, things might have gone the other way.
If anyone wants to visit the german destroyer, its a museum ship in Wilhelmshaven. Actually a very nice steam engined ship.
Would like to see a 4v4 battle with allowed scout/ASW choppers in three variants:
long range conventional missiles, mixed battle starting at 30 km, nukes between
Long Beach, Adams, Spruance and Iowa
against
Kirov, Krupny, Juliett and Sverdlow.
I noticed that too, Lütjens didn't target its Iranian counterpart and got smashed.
German Navy seems to be missing the F120/Köln class frigate - they were in use 1961-1989
Roger will probably be added to game in future.
The exocet entered service 1975 and the harpoon a couple of years later... the missile prior was an Ajax... though not sure if there was a surface to surface varient. Back to the point... perhaps the Germans had already contracted with the French for the exocet.
Keep up the great work cap.
Another good video. How about Germany, Finland, Sweden, Danish vs Soviets in baltic?
In any case, the penguins and exocets are once again proving to be absolutely nasty customers. I legit never felt bad in the game for using them. They always deliver. Its amazing.
That was fun to watch!
Now one IOWA vs all of them at 1 mile lol.
24:50 Malfunctioning Harpoon...!?! Never seen before🤪
In 1985 I think, there was a well known incident where a US carrier, possiby Uss America, sailed into Vestfjorden in Norway (the fjord between the Lofoten islands, and mainland Norway) participating in an exercise. Here she was attacked by a squadron of Norwegian mtb's. (possibly 6 Hauk class) They managed to sneak in and make a simulated fire of all their missiles and torpedoes. It was judged that the carrier would have been hit so many times that she would have sunk in a real battle. This showed the vulnerability for carriers in littoral waters, and it is said that the us navy took this so seriously that they changed their carrier doctriene. This may have saved them from real encounters like this afterwards. It could be interesting to see this simulated.
Watching these Sea Power battles has led me to realize I wish we had Cap back when I was in the USN as an EW in the ASMD role. All I would have had to do is ask Cap to say "There's absolutely no way we'll shoot down that missile! " or " It's going to get throoooooough! " And we would 100% defeat it every time.
Cap is better than chaff, jamming, and torch flares combined.😅
lol yes, it's my God-given talent?
@@grimreapers this talent could save so many simulated in-game lives.....
This must be ships from back in the 70`s....
None of these norwegian ships are in use now.
I THINK the Iranians still use a couple of the ships... but yes, most of them decommissions are under water.
@@FleetDefenderRA5 Yes Iran still has 3 of 4 Alvand class frigates. They did pretty well in the Iran-Iraq war but in 1988 the US came knocking and sank one and heavily damaged another. Funnily enough the one damaged in Operation Praying Mantis had to undergo a full rebuild and this actully allowed the Iranians to refit it with much more modern weapons like Chinese YJ-83s.
Yup game is based 1960-1985.
I just realized at least with the sm-1 you can change targets mid flight
22:00 radar vs ir?
Radar has maybe to much ground reflections, whereas for ir it is fine?
For the different altitudes of the Harpoon, Penguin and Gabriel missiles, Cap, I'd guess it has to do with the sea conditions in which the missile is intended to be used. IIUC, Israel's navy operates exclusively in the Mediterranean Sea, which never gets large ocean swells. Except in a storm, I'd guess the Med rarely sees waves more than a metre high. The USN operates mostly in the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, so there would be large waves even in the best weather.
I have no idea why the Penguin flies so low, though. Either it's something to do with the Norwegian navy using the many fjords to even the odds against larger ships, or maybe it's an acknowledgement that penguins cannot fly . . .
Thanks
The Penguin cruises at 23ft in-game, and it only reduces altitude when it's locked on to something.
Note that the 40mm L60 is the WWII version of the Bofors and the 40mm L70 is the post-WWII version: They don't use the same ammunition (40×311mmR vs 40×365mmR), the latter got twice the ROF and 50% more energy.
More than 60,000 L60s were made, mostly by the US during WWII. In comparision the number of L70 seems to be between 5000 and 6000.
It can be quite hard to tell which version a specific ship used: Often it just says "40mm", so you have to go to other sources to see if that country ever used the L70 at all, and even if they did there is no guarantee that this specific ship got the modern one.
Zastava, OTO Melara and Breda (and probably others) also made L70s on licence, so the gun on the Alvand is a Breda made 40mm L70.
An aproximation would be that if the 40mm mount is manned by 4 and looks like a tub, its probably an L60, and if its an enclosed turret thats too small to house a more than a single crewmember its L70. And if its a double-barrel enclosed turret its a Breda version.
If the models are correct the Alvand got a Breda Twin L70, Bayandor a dual L60, Kaivan a single-barrel L60, LaCombattante a single-barrel L70 and the Parvin a single-barrel L60.
Tiger got what looks like a single-barrel L70, Hauk a single L60, Oslo a single L70, Sleipner single L60, and Snögg a single-barrel L60.
Obviously the Harpoon failures were due to poor maintenance.....
oof
Fun battle this was, yess yess
In answer to the question of the objects on the stern of the Sauda they are called an oropesa. These are torpedo-shaped towed bodies, similar in shape to a Harvey Torpedo, that are streamed from the sweeping vessel thus keeping the sweep at a determined depth and position.
Thanks
@@grimreapers Great work, guys.
Hello
Do you know :
le chant du loup ,a french movie ?
And of course hunter killer with Gérald Butler ?
Do you think you can make a kind of ...remakes ?
All the best
Minesweeper hulls are made out of wood or fiberglass to be non-conductive non-metallic, and non-magnetic as much as possible. The stern deck systems are for mine detection, and I believe they should have something to tell behind them for setting the minds off as well well as Stern of the ship
...also, you could have been some of the unfortunate bastards who were out there before the minesweepers showed up on a Perry class with a bunch of Marines whose entire job was just to look for and shoot mines with a rifle and detonate them if they saw them.
That was some BS.
@eaches BM2, USS Normandy CG-60 was the first ship behind USS Prinston CG-59 when she hit her mines. We had M14s, no Marines, and no crayons onboard.
@@BOATS_22 Most appropriate username ever 👍
@ Right? and the 22 is my badge number from after the navy I got a job as a fulltime firefighter. I guess I could have tried for more snapper name lol.
One of the guys on the minesweeper had a cutlass. Between his teeth.
All modern sailors should be like that.
SM-1 Block V is a very good missile. The Lutjens just doesn't have good enough radar to guide it.
What I heard when I was visiting an active german minesweeper(Pegnitz) those torpedo-like things are for detecting and detonating mines. The german Marine uses similar drones who are equipped with mine-searching equipment, if one is detected they send down another guided torp with a Panzerfaust-3 head and let them detonate. Probably similar to the Norwegian Minesweeper tacitc
Cap, the reason Israeli missles fly so low because of the locations they are used. US launchs a missle in the Atlantic or Pacific it has to account for 20-40 ft waves. Israel will never see waves like that in the Red Sea or anywhere they would launch them. Also if you search World of Warships USS North Carolina. You will get a great look and explanation of the USS North Carolina firing computer for the 15" guns in IRL they did a great documentary on the Battleship.
Great info thanks!
@grimreapers Hey Cap they have a documentary on "Big I" also. It's under their channel playlist of Naval Legends.
Five Hauk-Class boats were apparantly sold to an "unnamed" British buyer in 2009
Wouldn’t 6-7ft above the surface put it at risk to waves/swells?
Agreed
You guys have used Penguin from Viggens in DCS
still dont get why they didnt add the Type 21
The Lütjens D-185 and here sisters Mölders D-186 and Rommel D-187 were not frigates and based on the US Charles F.Adams.
Hey Cap and gang, I gather that you guys like Sea Power. Is it worth the current price of $50 or is it more of a catch it on sale game to be worth it?
Yeh just go for it. It's buggy but I reckon they'll have it up to scratch soon.
In watching the Sea Power content, I am thinking that devs will need to revisit both ASM and interceptor logic. I just dont believe that either of them were that good/bad depending on conditions.
No major Iranian vessel would even reach open water. You forgot German and Norwegian stealth submarines.
Full F'ing Send!!! lol
Oooooo more Boom Boom!
Can you re-enact the US "Proportional Response" to Iran, as told by *The Fat Electrician?*
Splash splosh pew pew woosh hiss aaaargh BOOOOM !!! Glug glug 😢
-They should upgrade the norwegian ships and make a Hauk 2a-
All old ships, all from the 80's.
What is a Penguin? I wonder if it is similar to a Pin-geuuuuu-wennnn?
lol
,,penguin"
Sadly, due to recent events in the US, we may benefit from observing the results of a simulated battle between the US Navy and the rest of NATO in the North Atlantic. ANy interest in setting up and running one?
Reee calling the bofors 40mm L70 an italian gun
Sorry, getting Breda 40mm mixed up with Bofors 40mm.
Not an expert but those are definitely not the two ships germany has
"fast attack craft....20knts" rofl buoys and rubber ducks beware!
The Iranians still have a navy?, to consider the small force of Germany and Norway a real navy is a joke considering the past history of them. Try Iran vs Saudi Arabia, that is more likely than this scenario.
Game is set 1960-1985, that's the period we're looking at here.
24:48 *laughs in British, 25:06 :) :)
Cap - I know you like info on the Falkland's, here's a video of what my lot were doing at the time (before I joined so I wasn't there for obvious reasons), was ML1 before moving to the BPT when it reformed. th-cam.com/video/0E15d32ce4M/w-d-xo.html
Brill thanks!
no submarines for germany :(
Germany being a drag as always lol
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@@grimreapers hi cap, if people subscribed for dcs several years ago they should either move with the times or no longer subscribe its a simple decision...
Being an ex serviceman I subscribe for 51% the banter, and 49% for your content. Whatever you put out you always have the valued viewer in mind and are so articulate with that as well as making the suggested content as fair and as interesting to boot many people don't understand a 30 minute video takes 5+ hours minimum to do for little return.
Your health troubles over the years as well as your new family take priority now, so I for one will not unsub until TH-cam makes it totally impractical or illegal for you to create this content. In a way these videos are like therapy for a lot of ex serving people who both want to remember the good times that they had but also remember the not so good times serving. You have the balance perfect with fun and the recollections of how things could have indeed ended up and sometimes did. Thank you cap and everyone else on the team...
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Lazy content of lately 😞
Looks like some kind of decoy/sonar pod.
Paravane?
I thought perhaps some mine sonar or mine handling gear... COULD be a decoy though.
we need a refit bismark class
yessssss please