A great review as always. I have found that building things from 'kits' has always been relaxing for me. With most of the world indoors, suffering from 'Cabin Fever', a bit of distraction is nice to have. Even if just to hear about in a video.
It's quite incredible just how much the shape of the speaker 'box' affects the sound. For decades I've been using a set of Aiwa earbuds that came with a cassette walkman, because they sound amazing and don't block out external sounds (useful when cycling etc.) But I've replaced the cable & drivers several times now, often with sets from earbuds that cost a whole £1. In their original guise those £1 earbuds sound horrible, but in the Aiwa earbud shells with foam covers they sound amazing.
Foam "wraps" from earbuds (and comply foam on iem) are famous for rolling off spikes in response especially at the higher end (allthou sacrificing a ton of higher end clarity). Especially on cheaper balanced armature iem, comply foam (or any foam earpiece) can literally transform them.
@@andy_liga I have sometimes wondered about the effect of the foam on the higher frequencies, but the sound quality I'm getting from the earbuds with them on suits me perfectly fine, plus the without the foam they wouldn't stay in my ears, and they greatly help with the bass frequencies. I once tried those earbuds with rubber cones that grip into your ear & block out all external sound, really wasn't for me because being unable to hear traffic when cycling or walking was quite disorientating.
@@licensetodrive9930 to make an electronic comparison, foam acts like a resistor in a crossover circuit (having high impedance for high frequency and low impedance for the lows). Technically speaking you could use specific foam densities to tune headset (and on high end balanced armature iems that's actually the case)
Yeah I was hoping the video would mention what's changed in the MKII version :) Also some kind of visual representation of their measured performance - e.g. frequency response vs the others shown - would have been nice for those of us watching the video on a phone or with some other less-than-ideal speakers. I don't know how practical that would be to do with any accuracy, though, and admittedly I'm not exactly in the target market for these things anyway, but it seems plausible that someone considering buying these wouldn't already have the best audio setup, as they could be looking at these as their first foray into studio monitors. Not to mention that TH-cam could be obliterating the audio comparison anyway! I don't know what TH-cam's audio compression is like; varying with video resolution, I imagine, but does it ever get all that high in quality?
The compression from TH-cam I thought would not effect how well we could tell the difference, but when I closed my eyes I could noticeably appreciate the comparison between the LBM and the Pioneer. I preferred the Pioneer every time. I felt like the audio range was a bit better. That is not to say only use Pioneer for mixing. When I took audio recording class decades ago, they advised to use different monitors, speakers, and headphones to get a better idea of your audio across different quality of audio outputs that the user might be using.
Hey Angus, thanks so much for your video! I'm so pleased that you like the LBM. It seems like you took the time to do a careful and quality job assembling them. I'm listening to your music on SoundCloud now... I knew that guy with a wig looked familiar!
Hey Angus it's always so cool to see another side of you. I've been working on a project that involves very precise sound measurement using a 75$ microphone and free software. The software is called REW (room and eq wizard) and it's designed to test and help make adjustments to the eq of existing setups. If love to see how these two speakers actually compare with a frequency chart. PM me if you have questions. As always thanks for the grade A content!
So cool! Thanks for bringing attention to these things. I've been looking for an interesting DIY project with some soldering. That is quite nice! Especially when the beat dropped you could definitely hear all the lows, mids, and highs and various instruments of the song not mushed together.
It’s good to see you review creative product/project (outside of 3D Printing). I take closer look at these as I will be setting up a space, which requires monitors, as a British guy, these seem a good option.
It has been a (long) while since I tinkered with this stuff but the "porting" on speakers is really REALLY important (as you discovered when not sealing one of the drivers properly). In short, speakers (electro accoustic transducers as they were called when I did my apprenticeship) radiate sound forwards and backwards. If you seal the driver and construct the port(s) so that the sound from the rear of the driver has to travel a specific distance, the phase will "add" to the sound going forward at a specific frequency (actually a band of frequencies). If you don't do this properly, the sound waves will subtract from each other. It is no different to (directional) antenna theory, but the frequencies are way, way lower.
Standard monitor seems to have a more full sound for sure through my headphones, but as a much larger speaker it should. But as you said, the lbm has alot more clarity going for it
Well, I pulled the trigger and just bought it after watching this on the 7th. This thing sounds like not only an awesome project and learning experience, but it might just be my first step towards experimenting with production too. Fingers crossed that it's worth it and ships fast! I did NOT want to spend the $500+. These monitors seem like a sound investment for music lovers though.
Installed the power switch upside down? Who are you, my partner's grandfather? He installed every (but one) light switch upside down when remodelling the house.
I was quite impressed by the LBM speakers but the Pioneers definitely sound more bassy. I've had many Bluetooth headphones over the years with no issues whatsoever, but for some reason, I've never found Bluetooth speakers that actually work properly - they either just sound excessively tinny or start motor-boating after a few minutes (due to improper grounding). Even Mooni speakers, which are supposed to be "quite good", have audible gaps in the sound every seconds. I might just have to try a pair of these LBM speakers.
Check out REW, you can tune your monitors for your room with a computer and reference microphone. A subwoofer would really help these smaller speakers, and this EQ technique will deal with the crossover headaches.
Even listening on a laptop the difference was noticeable. I'm sure its not as loud as the Pioneers, but its "cleaner", and to a refined ear "clean" sound is the most important parameter of a speaker, if not the only. Also just like a violin the body of the speaker is its resonating chamber, so is as important as the electronics, and looked like they had put some thought into designing it.
The bit I dont really understand is how you can go to a hifi store to compare 4-5 sets of studio monitors & they all sound quite different. Buying an unheard set online is risky.
The bit I don't understand is the increase in money spent buying speakers and the decimation of the number of places you can go and listen to them side by side.
Definitely a more solid bass sound from the Pioneer set, but I'm really surprised that there was so little difference between the bluetooth and non bluetooth from the LBM's. I've often found bluetooth audio to be a bit.. lacking in very subtle ways in the past. Be great to see how it helps your music production in future :)
The Pioneers have more base, I wonder if that's an inaccuracy (or default base enhancement) on Pioneer's part or just different mixing on each test. Angus, if you haven't already, you should checkout HexiBase's channel; he's a no kidding sound engineer who designs and 3d prints speaker enclosures.
i dont know if its my headphones on my computer, but i think the pioneers have a more full sound to them. those british monitors sound great, and are very clear sounding, but i think i prefer the pioneers... but again, it could just be my headphones haha!
Yeah, it's difficult to compete with raw air volume and a bigger driver - but they are HUGE compared. Don't have any other speakers in the house though :P
Flat response monitors will not reproduce the audio as the creator intended as the sound is coloured with EQ during the mixdown to match the response of general-purpose Hi-Fi speakers.
with the LED you wont like acoustic foam but if you feel muddiness a irregular panel behind can make a difference and provide a nice ambience as well. i have jbl s3 with presonus 10' and i can fell the pioneer in their full body :) personaly i think the lbm mkii are rather expensive for a diy module.
Nice work on the boards. Do the SMD's come installed or does the builder install them. Personally I prefer to install them but I get why they would come installed. A lot of people don't like to install SMD's.
Hi thank you very much for this excellent review Just a question The coloured spectrum on the tv screen is not the one of the track playing ? it would be very interesting to see the actual music spectrum in realtime Very interesting
Only printer atm is the Craftbot Flow XL, I've taken a break during 2020 from most reviews. Maybe if something particularly interesting or different comes out I'll test it.
My conclusion from listening to the comparisons through my VEEERY old speakers. * Pioneer - More bass than the others. It had a bit more depth of the sound and a tinge of echo in how it transmitted the sound to amplify the bass. * Retro Speaker - Flat, almost tin. As if the sound wasn't bouncing at all. This wasn't a true representation of the music but rather of the diminished qualities of the speaker. Where the sound is merely directed outward and doesn't take advantage of the bounce and sound amplification that comes with re-directing the sound through channels of varying sizes. * LBM 2 - It had a level amount of bass and didn't seem particularly far off from Pioneer in sound quality but! It had less of a hollow echo and depth to its bass. It felt more pure. * LBM 2 Bluetooth - A bit sharper in the sound. The bass is less bouncy and more sharp. As if the transmission is better than your wire configuration. This might be due your configuration or tweaking.
LBM sounds equal wired and bluetooth, the Pioneer sounds more open sounded and bassy, the retro speaker sounds just worse. I think this LBM MKII is really good for the size. It looks a little smaller than my Microlab B77, but it may have a flatter sound, since the B77 is a little more bass-oriented like most multimedia speakers.
Hey Angus, any chance of a Artillery Genius review if you can get your hands on one. I purchased one through Banggood about two weeks ago and should be here in a couple more weeks and would love to hear your expert thoughts on them. Thanks from a fellow Perth boy for the great videos, I have learn't so much from you so far just can't wait to put it into practice now. Cheers again Angus.
they look like they are using the Dayton Audio drivers, not sure about the amp you are actually using considering you spoke about A/B and D, then talked about the power pack :) Class T amps are good as well
How can I build my own Studio Monitor for music production??? Which will give me flat frequencies every time??? And if I can make then what specifications of speaker,woofer,sub woofer or any other things will be needed?? Im noob about this
My speakers are arduino speakers tied to my computer and I have them loose on my desk. Needless to say, the comparison sounds cool but very much the same to me.
I'll have to dig out my Sony MDR-V6 headphones to listen to the comparison. Listening on my Creative Inspire T-3000 2.1 set-up doesn't do them justice. Then again I only payed $20 for them 10 years ago. Wish I could get my hands on a Logitech Z-2300 set.
I forgot to say this! I designed these LBM II speakers. I also recently designed a free, 3D printable speaker and uploaded the guide on Instructables. The guide also explains many principles of speaker design. Anyone with a 3D printer and access to eBay / AliExpress could try building these themselves if they want to play. www.instructables.com/id/Mr-Speaker-3D-Printed-DSP-Portable-Speaker/
The problem is that cabinet material is important for a clean speaker sound. Plastic is not ideal in some ways such as stiffness and energy damping. However you can certianly make a pretty decent sounding 3D printed speaker nonetheless.
@@Skott62 as an acoustic engineer specialising in speaker design and I've been designing 3D printed hifi speakers and the best sounding settings has been 4 walls, 6 top, 6 bottom, 40% gyroid infill but my current masters degree disitation is on the acoustics of fdm prints And how the make up (ie infill percentage, infill type etc) affects the sound
I see this as no surprise. I live in post communist country, so dad tells me so many stories what he had to do or make. He made so many things, like television switches for tv signal, speakers, etc. It's quite easy to make a speakers. But you have to know few things. He even made his own dish for satelite and tune it. It was just 2 meters wide. No worries.
I do like flat sound, I wouldn't want it to be distorted too much. Honestly I recently got some new headphones and I noticed they where kinda junky. I never cared before...
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The feature that would sell most people on these speakers is the ability to potentially hear recordings from artists in their intended, or 'rawest' form possible. You may have missed it (and I forget some of the details since I watched it last night), but I think he said the amplifier has a special equalizer which is technically flat (no extra bass, treble, etc.) but has potential to match whichever sounds are being input as closely as possible to the original recordings. Having listened to a lot of my favorite bands growing up on shitty headphones (barely being able to understand lyrics in some cases), that's a huge selling point for me. Edit: Plus, a lot of people may not have time to dive into the world of acoustic engineering and would like to have a DIY project with a satisfying end result. It may not be for everyone, but there are a lot of people this would heavily appeal to.
They're not competing with anything, because they're marketing to people who are easily influenced by myths. The BBC monitor is a myth, not a good speaker, but how many people have you met that heard them? BBC Plywood study from the 70s was obsoleted 10 or 15 years later by the Visaton study that makes MDF the material of choice. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Class D chips, if used well, the fingerpointing at their alleged high frequency misbehaviour is based on faulty measurements. People like to see big heatsinks, they seem reassuring to them. The boxy construction at the front is bad for diffraction, so the high end will have to be weird, peaky. People can assemble a kit and feel like they've accomplished something, while all the hard work was actually done for them. That being said they're probably actually pretty decent overall, and they are quite compact. They're just made to appeal to... hipsters basically. What recording engineer do you think would actually tolerate Bluetooth in his audio path? Most monitors are pretty unpleasant. There are many nice little HiFi speakers too that work surprisingly well in nearfield (and often remarkably badly freestanding), but availability is regional. As to actually pleasant and good monitors that you can get worldwide, check out Adam Audio ones.
For a DIY product, where we have to spend hours assemble it, they are too expensive. I rather spend 100 bucks more and get something off the shelf. Edit: I can see they have an assembled version, but still, feels too expensive to a trial and error product. At this price range I rather go with something I know I can trust, such as a pair of Adam Audio.
@@ralmslb I've never seen one either, and i'm from Germany. But i heard them SO many times, many of my friends have them, i absolutely agree with your recommendation. They're if anything not very monitory, not very sharp and annoying, just pleasant.
I swear to god if you made this because of my comment... Just kidding, my ego's big, but not that big. Still would like to see you print some speakers, or maybe even print the driver yourself. or just play it cool and ditch the whole 3d printing thing and start reviewing c-notes.
we have a bunch of musicians and producers in the family and I've convinced them to stop using monitors, or at the very least keep shitty speakers in their workflow. why? the response of the speakers the consumer will be using won't be flat. what sounds good on your studio monitors might not sound good on a phone or $5 Bluetooth speakers, which is what the best majority of listeners will be using. tuning exclusively to those variables isn't the way to go, but neither is tuning only to studio monitors. all that EQ goes straight out the window if you're using some shit like earbuds
Mixing on monitors the main thing I found was that I made my stuff too dynamic. Sounded great in the studio but on a TV or iPad it sounded thin and very quiet. Still... do you want to mix lifeless compressed sounding stuff so people with poor equipment think it sounds better? Depends what audience you aim at I guess.
A great review as always.
I have found that building things from 'kits' has always been relaxing for me.
With most of the world indoors, suffering from 'Cabin Fever', a bit of distraction is nice to have. Even if just to hear about in a video.
It's quite incredible just how much the shape of the speaker 'box' affects the sound. For decades I've been using a set of Aiwa earbuds that came with a cassette walkman, because they sound amazing and don't block out external sounds (useful when cycling etc.)
But I've replaced the cable & drivers several times now, often with sets from earbuds that cost a whole £1.
In their original guise those £1 earbuds sound horrible, but in the Aiwa earbud shells with foam covers they sound amazing.
Foam "wraps" from earbuds (and comply foam on iem) are famous for rolling off spikes in response especially at the higher end (allthou sacrificing a ton of higher end clarity). Especially on cheaper balanced armature iem, comply foam (or any foam earpiece) can literally transform them.
@@andy_liga I have sometimes wondered about the effect of the foam on the higher frequencies, but the sound quality I'm getting from the earbuds with them on suits me perfectly fine, plus the without the foam they wouldn't stay in my ears, and they greatly help with the bass frequencies.
I once tried those earbuds with rubber cones that grip into your ear & block out all external sound, really wasn't for me because being unable to hear traffic when cycling or walking was quite disorientating.
licensetodrive time to try some Koss KSC75. Things sound better than most consumer audio headphones
@@licensetodrive9930 to make an electronic comparison, foam acts like a resistor in a crossover circuit (having high impedance for high frequency and low impedance for the lows). Technically speaking you could use specific foam densities to tune headset (and on high end balanced armature iems that's actually the case)
@@exol511 or bigger brother the Koss Porta Pro, which has been my go-to headset for most cases in the past 10years
For a second I thought this was a Hexibase video
Marco Reps made a video about these a while back. I see they refined the design from back then.
Yeah, him and Naomi checked out the kickstarter versions.
@@MakersMuse What are the changes since the kickstarter do you know?
Yeah I was hoping the video would mention what's changed in the MKII version :)
Also some kind of visual representation of their measured performance - e.g. frequency response vs the others shown - would have been nice for those of us watching the video on a phone or with some other less-than-ideal speakers.
I don't know how practical that would be to do with any accuracy, though, and admittedly I'm not exactly in the target market for these things anyway, but it seems plausible that someone considering buying these wouldn't already have the best audio setup, as they could be looking at these as their first foray into studio monitors.
Not to mention that TH-cam could be obliterating the audio comparison anyway! I don't know what TH-cam's audio compression is like; varying with video resolution, I imagine, but does it ever get all that high in quality?
The compression from TH-cam I thought would not effect how well we could tell the difference, but when I closed my eyes I could noticeably appreciate the comparison between the LBM and the Pioneer. I preferred the Pioneer every time. I felt like the audio range was a bit better. That is not to say only use Pioneer for mixing. When I took audio recording class decades ago, they advised to use different monitors, speakers, and headphones to get a better idea of your audio across different quality of audio outputs that the user might be using.
Hey Angus, thanks so much for your video! I'm so pleased that you like the LBM. It seems like you took the time to do a careful and quality job assembling them. I'm listening to your music on SoundCloud now... I knew that guy with a wig looked familiar!
Thanks for sending them! Sorry for the delay. :)
Hey Angus it's always so cool to see another side of you. I've been working on a project that involves very precise sound measurement using a 75$ microphone and free software. The software is called REW (room and eq wizard) and it's designed to test and help make adjustments to the eq of existing setups. If love to see how these two speakers actually compare with a frequency chart. PM me if you have questions. As always thanks for the grade A content!
So cool! Thanks for bringing attention to these things. I've been looking for an interesting DIY project with some soldering.
That is quite nice! Especially when the beat dropped you could definitely hear all the lows, mids, and highs and various instruments of the song not mushed together.
Great review, Funny how you just happen to review these when the amp went out in my speakers.
Cool speakers, monitors, I imagine they sound way better in person
It’s good to see you review creative product/project (outside of 3D Printing). I take closer look at these as I will be setting up a space, which requires monitors, as a British guy, these seem a good option.
It has been a (long) while since I tinkered with this stuff but the "porting" on speakers is really REALLY important (as you discovered when not sealing one of the drivers properly). In short, speakers (electro accoustic transducers as they were called when I did my apprenticeship) radiate sound forwards and backwards. If you seal the driver and construct the port(s) so that the sound from the rear of the driver has to travel a specific distance, the phase will "add" to the sound going forward at a specific frequency (actually a band of frequencies). If you don't do this properly, the sound waves will subtract from each other. It is no different to (directional) antenna theory, but the frequencies are way, way lower.
I like that it's a diy kit you can build yourself! Very nice!
Very nice. You can hear the treble increase when switched to bluetooth.
That wide screen looks amazing
Standard monitor seems to have a more full sound for sure through my headphones, but as a much larger speaker it should. But as you said, the lbm has alot more clarity going for it
Well, I pulled the trigger and just bought it after watching this on the 7th. This thing sounds like not only an awesome project and learning experience, but it might just be my first step towards experimenting with production too. Fingers crossed that it's worth it and ships fast! I did NOT want to spend the $500+. These monitors seem like a sound investment for music lovers though.
Installed the power switch upside down? Who are you, my partner's grandfather? He installed every (but one) light switch upside down when remodelling the house.
I was quite impressed by the LBM speakers but the Pioneers definitely sound more bassy.
I've had many Bluetooth headphones over the years with no issues whatsoever, but for some reason, I've never found Bluetooth speakers that actually work properly - they either just sound excessively tinny or start motor-boating after a few minutes (due to improper grounding). Even Mooni speakers, which are supposed to be "quite good", have audible gaps in the sound every seconds.
I might just have to try a pair of these LBM speakers.
Check out REW, you can tune your monitors for your room with a computer and reference microphone. A subwoofer would really help these smaller speakers, and this EQ technique will deal with the crossover headaches.
Even listening on a laptop the difference was noticeable. I'm sure its not as loud as the Pioneers, but its "cleaner", and to a refined ear "clean" sound is the most important parameter of a speaker, if not the only. Also just like a violin the body of the speaker is its resonating chamber, so is as important as the electronics, and looked like they had put some thought into designing it.
The bit I dont really understand is how you can go to a hifi store to compare 4-5 sets of studio monitors & they all sound quite different. Buying an unheard set online is risky.
The bit I don't understand is the increase in money spent buying speakers and the decimation of the number of places you can go and listen to them side by side.
Definitely a more solid bass sound from the Pioneer set, but I'm really surprised that there was so little difference between the bluetooth and non bluetooth from the LBM's. I've often found bluetooth audio to be a bit.. lacking in very subtle ways in the past. Be great to see how it helps your music production in future :)
The Pioneers have more base, I wonder if that's an inaccuracy (or default base enhancement) on Pioneer's part or just different mixing on each test. Angus, if you haven't already, you should checkout HexiBase's channel; he's a no kidding sound engineer who designs and 3d prints speaker enclosures.
the fact that they're quite small has very little impact on the "hi's". Getting some descent lo's is the tricky part on small monitors
i dont know if its my headphones on my computer, but i think the pioneers have a more full sound to them. those british monitors sound great, and are very clear sounding, but i think i prefer the pioneers... but again, it could just be my headphones haha!
Yeah, it's difficult to compete with raw air volume and a bigger driver - but they are HUGE compared. Don't have any other speakers in the house though :P
Flat response monitors will not reproduce the audio as the creator intended as the sound is coloured with EQ during the mixdown to match the response of general-purpose Hi-Fi speakers.
How cute. I'm running KRK Rokit 10-3 G3's
Speaking of Monitors, hot damn thats a sexy Ultrawide monitor you got there.
this might be kinda off topic, but since you are into highend audio, is there any cheap IEMs you can reccomend (no more than $100) other than the T2?
Nah I only use over-ear monitors sorry.
Great and interesting video as always👍
Love it👍😀
Thanks for sharing👍😀
Glad to see you back. Cool speaker kit, not sure they are worthy at that price point however.
with the LED you wont like acoustic foam but if you feel muddiness a irregular panel behind can make a difference and provide a nice ambience as well. i have jbl s3 with presonus 10' and i can fell the pioneer in their full body :) personaly i think the lbm mkii are rather expensive for a diy module.
Nice work on the boards. Do the SMD's come installed or does the builder install them. Personally I prefer to install them but I get why they would come installed. A lot of people don't like to install SMD's.
Hi thank you very much for this excellent review
Just a question The coloured spectrum on the tv screen is not the one of the track playing ? it would be very interesting to see the actual music spectrum in realtime Very interesting
So amazing!! I do have for a long time my little Cambridge 2.1 Soundworks from Massachusetts by Henry Kloss
Great contend!! Thank you
the big ones seem to have more mid and low freq, might not be linear but I do like large speakers (I am a bass player after all)
hi angus, are there any products we can look forward to a review from? (e.e. prusa mini, hemera, cr6-se)
Only printer atm is the Craftbot Flow XL, I've taken a break during 2020 from most reviews. Maybe if something particularly interesting or different comes out I'll test it.
My conclusion from listening to the comparisons through my VEEERY old speakers.
* Pioneer
- More bass than the others. It had a bit more depth of the sound and a tinge of echo in how it transmitted the sound to amplify the bass.
* Retro Speaker
- Flat, almost tin. As if the sound wasn't bouncing at all. This wasn't a true representation of the music but rather of the diminished qualities of the speaker. Where the sound is merely directed outward and doesn't take advantage of the bounce and sound amplification that comes with re-directing the sound through channels of varying sizes.
* LBM 2
- It had a level amount of bass and didn't seem particularly far off from Pioneer in sound quality but! It had less of a hollow echo and depth to its bass. It felt more pure.
* LBM 2 Bluetooth
- A bit sharper in the sound. The bass is less bouncy and more sharp. As if the transmission is better than your wire configuration. This might be due your configuration or tweaking.
Club Bizarre HHZ & NC RMX?
Someone had a good iPod era.
LBM sounds equal wired and bluetooth, the Pioneer sounds more open sounded and bassy, the retro speaker sounds just worse. I think this LBM MKII is really good for the size. It looks a little smaller than my Microlab B77, but it may have a flatter sound, since the B77 is a little more bass-oriented like most multimedia speakers.
Retro Speaker rulez!
It gets the job done lol
Love you work
Hey Angus, any chance of a Artillery Genius review if you can get your hands on one. I purchased one through Banggood about two weeks ago and should be here in a couple more weeks and would love to hear your expert thoughts on them. Thanks from a fellow Perth boy for the great videos, I have learn't so much from you so far just can't wait to put it into practice now. Cheers again Angus.
they look like they are using the Dayton Audio drivers, not sure about the amp you are actually using considering you spoke about A/B and D, then talked about the power pack :) Class T amps are good as well
sorry, it's A/B!
9:45 hahah... kitboga.
kitboga for President!
How can I build my own Studio Monitor for music production??? Which will give me flat frequencies every time??? And if I can make then what specifications of speaker,woofer,sub woofer or any other things will be needed?? Im noob about this
My speakers are arduino speakers tied to my computer and I have them loose on my desk. Needless to say, the comparison sounds cool but very much the same to me.
I'll have to dig out my Sony MDR-V6 headphones to listen to the comparison. Listening on my Creative Inspire T-3000 2.1 set-up doesn't do them justice. Then again I only payed $20 for them 10 years ago. Wish I could get my hands on a Logitech Z-2300 set.
Listening to speakers through a shitty microphone in a room is kind of stupid anyway.
I forgot to say this! I designed these LBM II speakers. I also recently designed a free, 3D printable speaker and uploaded the guide on Instructables. The guide also explains many principles of speaker design.
Anyone with a 3D printer and access to eBay / AliExpress could try building these themselves if they want to play. www.instructables.com/id/Mr-Speaker-3D-Printed-DSP-Portable-Speaker/
The revenge (return) of High Fidelity. 🖖😎👍
The important bit is at 0:41 :D. Hello you blue beauty.
Can you reverse-engineer these monitors into 3D printed cases?
...or is that Hexi-Base's 3D printing domain?
It can absolutely be done, and it’s possible to make it a better speaker with 3D printing, if one knows how to design it ;)
The problem is that cabinet material is important for a clean speaker sound. Plastic is not ideal in some ways such as stiffness and energy damping. However you can certianly make a pretty decent sounding 3D printed speaker nonetheless.
P.s. you will still need the custom electronics to run it all.
@@Audio_Simon That is what I was thinking. The difference between birch wood and plastic would be distinct in sound quality.
@@Skott62 as an acoustic engineer specialising in speaker design and I've been designing 3D printed hifi speakers and the best sounding settings has been 4 walls, 6 top, 6 bottom, 40% gyroid infill but my current masters degree disitation is on the acoustics of fdm prints And how the make up (ie infill percentage, infill type etc) affects the sound
I see this as no surprise. I live in post communist country, so dad tells me so many stories what he had to do or make. He made so many things, like television switches for tv signal, speakers, etc. It's quite easy to make a speakers. But you have to know few things. He even made his own dish for satelite and tune it. It was just 2 meters wide. No worries.
the Pioneers sound slightly better to me, but considering these are half the size, only ''slightly'' better is pretty surprising
Cool speakers --
I do like flat sound, I wouldn't want it to be distorted too much.
Honestly I recently got some new headphones and I noticed they where kinda junky. I never cared before...
Wait so its a foam insert style instead of a smooth corner method ?
Hey Angus could you review the see me Cnc Rostock cuz a friend of mine is recommending it to me and I’m a bit skeptical about it
What screen is that
Hey, Angus! Your new hoodie is making me crazy because the hood strings block the text. It says, "Social Offline"? We curious brats have too know!
The LBM II speakers sound good. I think the Pioneer speakers had little more bass. The audio from the retro speakers was just awful.
Who and what is Fluffbum?
"for lack of a less wanky term" lmao
I need some help from you if u don't mind.. I am working on teeth stl files using meshmixer and i want to block out spaces between teeth with easiest way.. Can u help me sir
What song is that at around the 8:00 min mark? I've heard it before.
His own Song. Soundcloud link is in his describtion
@@Wodpuncher001 right on thanks. I must have missed it.
Would look great with a vibrant aniline stain!
Why would you want to bother to build your own when there are so many less expensive and better sounding ready to go speakers out there?
The feature that would sell most people on these speakers is the ability to potentially hear recordings from artists in their intended, or 'rawest' form possible. You may have missed it (and I forget some of the details since I watched it last night), but I think he said the amplifier has a special equalizer which is technically flat (no extra bass, treble, etc.) but has potential to match whichever sounds are being input as closely as possible to the original recordings. Having listened to a lot of my favorite bands growing up on shitty headphones (barely being able to understand lyrics in some cases), that's a huge selling point for me.
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Plus, a lot of people may not have time to dive into the world of acoustic engineering and would like to have a DIY project with a satisfying end result. It may not be for everyone, but there are a lot of people this would heavily appeal to.
Once you can watch krap like this on it, the days of TH-cam must be numbered.
400$ build your own kit? Ouch!
There are many name brand pre built monitor options in that range. Not sure what these are competing with?
They're not competing with anything, because they're marketing to people who are easily influenced by myths. The BBC monitor is a myth, not a good speaker, but how many people have you met that heard them? BBC Plywood study from the 70s was obsoleted 10 or 15 years later by the Visaton study that makes MDF the material of choice. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Class D chips, if used well, the fingerpointing at their alleged high frequency misbehaviour is based on faulty measurements. People like to see big heatsinks, they seem reassuring to them. The boxy construction at the front is bad for diffraction, so the high end will have to be weird, peaky. People can assemble a kit and feel like they've accomplished something, while all the hard work was actually done for them.
That being said they're probably actually pretty decent overall, and they are quite compact. They're just made to appeal to... hipsters basically. What recording engineer do you think would actually tolerate Bluetooth in his audio path?
Most monitors are pretty unpleasant. There are many nice little HiFi speakers too that work surprisingly well in nearfield (and often remarkably badly freestanding), but availability is regional. As to actually pleasant and good monitors that you can get worldwide, check out Adam Audio ones.
The closest competitor is probably the tiny Genelec monitors. The LBM II have deeper bass and bluetooth.
For a DIY product, where we have to spend hours assemble it, they are too expensive.
I rather spend 100 bucks more and get something off the shelf.
Edit: I can see they have an assembled version, but still, feels too expensive to a trial and error product.
At this price range I rather go with something I know I can trust, such as a pair of Adam Audio.
I hate Adam Audio ads, I think i see a few almost every day
@@illford I never got one, but I'm from Portugal. Where you from?
@@ralmslb I've never seen one either, and i'm from Germany. But i heard them SO many times, many of my friends have them, i absolutely agree with your recommendation. They're if anything not very monitory, not very sharp and annoying, just pleasant.
@@SianaGearz Are you referring to the Adams?
470.00. Ya right !
same price or even cheaper you can get iLOUD mini monitors.....better and even smaller
too spendy 250 is max price this should be. the other ones in this price come with no work on your part
Why does everyone say first when they are remotely early lol
First.
First!
I always say it to my mate, when he goes out with one of my exes.
How much?!?!
BuT iTs JuSt A sPeAkEr! 😂
Id great but so for the priece i can buy sonething better, is s bit pricy
Maker's Muse uploaded, I click, I watch, shut up TH-cam Algorithm, you're drunk :D
I'm a basshead
I swear to god if you made this because of my comment...
Just kidding, my ego's big, but not that big. Still would like to see you print some speakers, or maybe even print the driver yourself. or just play it cool and ditch the whole 3d printing thing and start reviewing c-notes.
they cost 409 euro
we have a bunch of musicians and producers in the family and I've convinced them to stop using monitors, or at the very least keep shitty speakers in their workflow.
why? the response of the speakers the consumer will be using won't be flat. what sounds good on your studio monitors might not sound good on a phone or $5 Bluetooth speakers, which is what the best majority of listeners will be using. tuning exclusively to those variables isn't the way to go, but neither is tuning only to studio monitors. all that EQ goes straight out the window if you're using some shit like earbuds
Mixing on monitors the main thing I found was that I made my stuff too dynamic. Sounded great in the studio but on a TV or iPad it sounded thin and very quiet. Still... do you want to mix lifeless compressed sounding stuff so people with poor equipment think it sounds better? Depends what audience you aim at I guess.
Also, not having monitors at all is just as bad... end up with lots of crap in the mix you didn't even know was there.
It is impossible to judge a speaker over the internet, but these seem ridiculously overpriced for what they are.
To everyone who reads this- goodnight. I love you. Tomorrow could be the best day of your life. Things are gonna be okay.
1st, lol jk it doesn’t matter.
the community cares..
YOU matter. =)
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@MarcoNoPolo thanks!
Akir leaks make no difference
Sorry but just stop
No one will see this
@G Smith I see it
G Smith. Sir, you are lying.
Ole Sauffaus haha 😂, someone actually saw it
liar lol
Oh two people saw it 🤦♂️
enlighten me on the definition of a 'wanky' term
Pretentious.
Really? H A I R C U T......! ;)
Hi lol
I thought you’d at least 3d print the housing
Wait this is called monitors? I'm confused. Aren't they speakers 🤔
I am early! Mhmm aha mhmm aha! 🤣
For the price, it looks super ugly
ohhhh?? why? just buy a jbl clip
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