When are NSW fans and pundits going to stop blaming the referee for “ruining the game”? How about this. Sua’ali’i ruined the game. Not the referee. It’s a send off, end of story, doesn’t matter what level of the game, it’s a send off. It’s Sua’ali’i’s responsibility to not put himself, his team and his state in that situation.
it was a clear tactic from the start by NSW to do damage to walsh. the fact he left the ground and launched himself at walsh meant his intent was to hit high with shoulder, whether he was aiming intentionally for the head or not he still would have hit him in the neck or lower jaw if walsh had not slipped. the way walsh's neck snapped back made me feel sick.
They definitely wanted to shut him down in defence but to say that wanted to actually hurt or injure him is a huge stretch. There were so many mitigating factors in that tackle
100% they was urged too take him out for sure, nobody talks about how he was hit late in previous set by hudson young and that was let go, mark carroll and benny elias was quoted by media urging the blues to bash walsh.
@@michaelolofsson8558 there no maybe. He completely lost his feet before contact. That’s not a maybe. Walsh slipped into it and the initial contact as shown by freeze frame photos that came out today, the first contact still hit the upper chest. If Walsh doesn’t slip he gets folded by a clean shot. Simple as that. Stay on your feet. Walsh is the reason Walsh got slept.
“He’s got 35 origins in front of him” How many head knocks does he have left mate? Such a stupid comment. Don’t blame the ref. Blame the player who knows the rules, broke the rules and ruined game 1
To bad ... you can't have a run of the mill player take out the main strike weapon and just allow a replacement. The game needs to be as safe as it can be for such a contact sport, but that was clearly dangerous which could have made an athlete never walk again. We missed out on a great game, but better to have rules which looks after the players. Get over it Joel.
They aren’t paid a just above average salary mate. They’re paid big bucks to cop the hits that are entertaining. Of course if his hit looked intentionally then by all means send him off. no replacement. 7 minutes into the game, an accidental dangerous tackle and they ruin origin.
@@Sleyss Blame Sualii. Blame anyone that told him to do it. Ref was literally just doing his job and did it right. It was by the rules. Shoulder charge to the head, reckless intent, send off all day long.
"You cant punish the fans" Well, tell that to the player and the coach. There was INTENT, to go after Walsh (Morons: read, to go after, no intentionally hurt). He fucked the tackle up. He fucked the tackle up in such a bad way that there was no alternative to send him. This entire conversation is hilarious. He fucked up bad.
It was an accident, I get that, but with how much force he hit him and with the type of hit (shoulder charge to the head) send off all day long. People that say otherwise have no clue.
How do these guys know Sua's intent? Were they in the sheds before the game? Did Madge have a quiet word with Sua and tell him to not only put pressure on Walsh and mess him up? I find it amusing when NSW pundits claim "We've gotta protect the kicker" every day of the week, but when their golden boy makes a mistake (sure it wasn't intentional - but if your accidents can give a bloke CTE a few years down the track YOU DESERVE TO BE SENT!) they can find hundreds of mitigating circumstances. Here's an idea; The Send Off is meant to be the ultimate deterent, and they are arguing it ruins the game (WRONG - It only ruined this game because it happened so early) In order to keep the game alive have the player sent off, never to return, but after 20 minutes activate the 18th man. Still worse than 10 minutes in the Bin, but gives the team a possible chance to recover. QLD just got ahead and went into slow mo, knowing they were going to wear out their opponents sooner or later. It was dull.
20 minutes may not be enough of a deterrent to be honest, in fact it may be beneficial if they get to activate 18th man. They may have a player that is blundering galore and decide "Righto, you go out there and take off Cleary/Munster/To'o/Walsh's head, you'll cop a send off, but we'll hold and get a fresh 18th man in the back end of the game and then win."
Definitely a send off. The old players know it as well but they are now in the media business so they see it from and entertainment view point. Walsh and sualii both know it was a send off. Munster said he was upset to see the game ruined, but it was a send off. They players now are just as hard as the oldies but they understand the rules that they play within. It sucks for game. But its right decision. Sad to see the oldies trying to create a scenario where that tackle is okay now. Imagine Latrel did it and the whole scenario changes to how much of a grub he is. It's just the media creating clicks (which is really the whole purpose of the talking heads). Never thought I would be praising Fittler, but he's been the most consistent with his opinions on these types of tackles.
It's not that simple. It was a Shoulder charge to the head, it wasn't a tackle that just slipped up over the shoulder into the head. It was forceful, it was reckless and it was at pace, point of the shoulder went straight into Reece' head. Accident of not, that is a send off.
Nobody wants to see that. what if Rice didn't wake up and actually died? what if he woke up but couldnt play footy again cause he became mentally challenged. I blame Suaali. It doesnt matter if Rice slips Suaali has to go down alot lower. There's no point tacking like that anyway. also Suaali shouldnt even be playing. Hes already turned his back on League; hes going to union
Yeah, I get Sua'ali'i didn't go out to attack Reece Walsh head. But he was intending on putting on a big shot! Problem was, he got the height wrong. Even though Walsh slipped and he may have dropped marginally in height, the tackle always looked like it was going to be high. Anyway, I'm happy to hear alternative for teams not having to play one player down. But there has to be some significant penalty, otherwise all outstanding players will become targets, as their loss will greatly affect their team.
Reece has had his head target 5 times this year. Also if a toddler runs out in front of your car. You’re still liable for hitting it, same here. Reece can fall all he wants Joey still has to not hit him in the head.
Yes definitely a send off! One of the reasons Maroons were able to take advantage of the 13-12 situation so well is because they had Cobbo as a sub... And Hammer slotted back to FB so well! In other situations a team can get greatly disadvantaged if one of their star attacking players is out for the game! For example, hypothetically if Turbo is taken out by a similar tackle in a NSW team in origin or for Manly in a GF then that would greatly affect both NSW and Manly in such a situation especially if they don't have any backs in the bench! By the way, the videos on the playlist on my channel titled 'Purpose of Life?' might interest some people!
@@Giveme1goodreason because he needs to stay on his feet and also stop dipping into tackles. Walsh technique is rubbish. He has to take some responsibility for his own head mate. Stay in your feet and take your licks like a man stead of falling over yourself trying to avoid contact. Bro is a cat.
@@dbo4506 You can call him a cat until you're blue in the face for all I care, but Joe deserved the send off. It's Reece's job as the ball carrier to move the ball in a way that benefits his team and eventually get the ball to the other team's end for a try......it is not his job to protect his head, it's the defender's job to legally stop the ball carrier while protecting the ball carrier's head. If Reece slips (which he did, but it didn't cause him to drop much) then the tackler has to make sure to account for that......if he is already charging at him full speed (which there is nothing against that act alone) it is his job to make sure to hit the ball carrier legally.....Sualii did not do that, not only did he shoulder charge Reece......He got him in the head. Instant send off all day long.
The Blues had the opportunity to create a miracle and they bottled it. Winners play to the last second and believe in miracles. NSW commentators saying 'it was over after 7 minutes' prove how much faith they had in their team.
You admit in a grand final players might deliberately take out a player but that wouldn’t happen in origin? And because it’s suaalii only season you reckon he wouldn’t be slipped some cash to take someone’s head off of suspension were aligned with a club?
The game has fan because of the stars that play the game. You end Walsh’s career that way and the game would lose a lot of young girls who watch and probably some blokes too. Which in 10 years time they won’t be letting their kids play league because of what happened and it destroys the game.
Im a Qld supporter. Really disappointed the nsw players didn't have the same mentality as the nsw fans. Nsw side should've given up after 8mins and qld should've won by 80 points instead they wanted to try and make it competitive and it just ruined the whole game for me.
Wahhh wahh NSW such sooks. Game 2 1989 in Sydney QLD lost Meninga Vautin Langer Hancock and Linder played 75mins with a broken leg, 12 men no interchange over half the game. They still won, because unlike 9 million of u sooks 7 mins into a series, qlder never give up, losing isn’t an option until it’s already done and over. You had chances to win and you bottled it the stage was set and you shit the bed again, that’s the narrative.
Intent or not, direct contact to the head, he came in at full speed and couldn’t pull out. It’s a send off. Do we care about the game or CTE. I bleed maroon but if it was Val hitting Teddy in the exact same circumstance, I would be saying the same thing. Send him off. They should get 6 weeks too, not 4. Jamming outside in is a risk on the attacking player. If they get it wrong, which he did, then they need to pay for it. CTE is no joke. There will be no game if ex players start suing the NRL for not taking care of them.
@@dbo4506 The fuck are you smoking? Reece usually dips when passing, his slipping only dropped his head by about a cm. Sualii didn't account for Reece' usual dip when passing and got him high. Also he shoulder charged Reece.......You're going to blame Reece for getting shoulder charged? Again....what the fuck are you smoking?
By that argument, then all the players from both sides should get a plaque because their families are there, and the game is for the fans. By the way, your cheating, holding down, doesn't work. You give away penalties, and you waste energy doing it and pretending to be tied up.
Yep agree! Turned t.v off after that! Ref might as well have been wearing qld jersey! I don't think I'd like it if nsw player was knocked out that's the fukin truth but I don't agree with 13 v 12 Reece Walse said it him self It was a good hit, just gotta roll with the punches, it is what it is!
So you can smash a player in the head but not get sent off so you dont upset the fans. Even Brad Fittler said it was a send off. It wasa terrible tackle and got what it deserved. NSW have a few grub players.
Reece Walse said it him self It was a good hit, just gotta roll with the punches, it is what it is! I wouldn't be happy if a nsw player was knocked out. I like Reese n alot of the other players. I turned t.v off after that, A.K might as well been wearing qld jesery. My opinion like it or not that's on you. If it was other way around you too would be saying same thing!!!! So dont pretend like you wouldn't have the same thought regarding send off and having 13 v 12 That's were its really unfair and fuk3d up! 13 on 12 what a load of 💩 After 7 mins there was no chance of a win!!! Have a great day nsw/qld supporters
May the refs keep the NRL games entertaining and worthwhile for their money's worth of the gate fees etc etc when making decisions while officiating the NRL games. to keep it alive and interesting and enjoyable to watch from the beginning to the end of each game. Game was put off for 12 men against 13. All the best ref.Mareta
So spear tackles which result in a send-off are intentional? Freddy Lussick getting sent off for his charge down on Illias was intentional? Or... just reckless play and poor technique? How in hell has Joseph S become the victim in this?? Acting like he hasn't got form for poor technique and ball running knee first. This will go down as one of the dumbest takes of all time.
What a load of crap. So, illegal play is fine, and punishment is too hard for modern players? Hold on i will grab you a saucer of milk. How bout Gordon tallis send off for dissent? I bet you didn't think that was a travesty.
@SilentHotdog28 That is correct. It's the ref's decision not ours. As a Queenslander , I would like to ask you a question. If we had a player sent off, would you leave Suncorp or any other ground? I know I wouldn't. I would assume that my support suddenly became more important than it was a minute ago. I can't get over that their so-called fans only want to be there for their victories.
Joel please as the greatest grub Gal said about NSW were ''so bwave'', so Joel, be bwave. As far as the fans at the stadium go, as The Axe said ''we couldn't give a rats'' that a whole state of blues are disappointed. Boohoo boohoo once again.
This is the stupidest take I've ever heard. They got a player who is leaving the sport at the end of the season to foul one of the key players of the side. You can't just allow NSW to send on a scape goat to clean KO walsh and then go on to replace him and win the game. The NSW coash and Joseph ruined the game for the fans NOT the rules designed yo protect players. This punishment goes beyond one game of origin. The NSW coach now OWES the fans a good game. He is the one who is in debt not the game of NRL.
This is the last time I am saying this can the boss of the nrl the trot guy who game is in crisis the nrl is so clueless in 24 the game should be deemed a no contest a annulment and all betting agencies to refund all losing bets as I said I have seen them all the worse in history mate people turn the product off people leaving the venue the player needs a lot of work to do on his attacking positional play I beg all 17 ceo I hold a summit get together for the game sake and vote for a annulment and no contest rule so your team do not get robbed blind the nrl is in crisis that was garbage
NRL should make change for the game, NRL should change 17th to 18th players a team if a player gets sent off he leaves the game a Bench player covers that position interchange is now 7 with 4 players left on Bench punish the player not the team..
so players can just do anything they want in origin simply because "we cant ruin the game for everyone"? bloody stupid opinion. you dont like the refs making send off calls, but now you want them to decide if a shot was intentional or not? do you see how stupid that is?
God there are some clowns here. The send off is for deliberate acts of foul play. Suaalii clearly aimed low and committed to the tackle, walsh slipped and changed the target, there was no chance of either pulling out, it obviously wasnt a deliberate act of foul play, so why was it a send off. If thats called a sin bin as it shouldve been, noone complains. The only people who seem to disagree are qlders but we all know if the roles were reversed and one of theirs went off like that theyd all be saying the same things I am. If you want an example of what a real send off worthy offence is, look up Greenhill on Harragon. Harragon ran at the line upright, Greenhill rushed in with a swinging arm, jumped and clotheslined the head. Deliberate act of foul play. Noone could complain about that one. You look at both tackles, one person clearly tried to do the right thing, the other person clearly tried to injure another player It sucks walsh got ruled out but that was an accident. Suaaliis ruling out however was not an accident. So as much as people will say, well he took out our best player or whatever, players go down through accidents, its a contact sport, the bunker has a million angles and shouldnt be getting that wrong, particularly because its origin. Why the NRL still hasnt figured out how to take falling players into account is beyond me, so many of these rubbish calls would stop instantly. Any fan who went to that game should get their money back.
So spear tackles which result in a send-off are intentional? Freddy Lussick getting sent off for his charge down on Illias was intentional? Or... just reckless play and poor technique? How in hell has Joseph S become the victim in this?? Acting like he hasn't got form for poor technique and ball running knee first. This will go down as one of the dumbest takes of all time.
@chillyfish5676 your first question is malformed, I have no idea what you're trying to say. Freddy lussick attacked through the legs. Ilias didn't trip or change anything, the fault was all lussick. Suaalii is the "victim" because he was sent off in shitty circumstances. He got the technique right, he didnt leave the ground, walsh slipped into it. If walsh doesn't fall, it's a perfect tackle, therefore the trip is a contributing factor to what went wrong and why walsh got knocked out. If everything else stayed exactly the same, but instead of hitting the head when walsh slipped, suaalii landed on Walsh's legs and broke one, is it a send off, no, because the trip was a contributing factor, it was an accident. By the rules any contact to the head is a pen and forceful is a bin, I think everyone would be fine with the bin because clearly there was forceful contact to the head. But it's also clear to anyone with half a brain that wasn't intentional and walsh falling was the reason the tackle went wrong.
@bigtomivan im suggesting your statement that send offs are for deliberate acts of foul play is not true. I was referencing spear tackles and the tackle on Illias as clear examples that this is not the case. These are not deliberate acts and still result in send offs because their technique is reckless and either risks or results in harm to the other player. If everything went perfect he would have hit Walsh high on the chest. He had 5 foot below that which he could have aimed for. It's football played at a fast pace. It's the tacklers responsibility to account for changes in position. And he did leave his feet. Milli seconds after contact, he's flying through the air like Superman. He has form for recklessness in how he enters contact as well.
@@chillyfish5676 if there is a spear, the defender lifted the attacker, if theres contact with legs, it because the defender attacked the legs, these are deliberate actions and avoidable. A tripping player is not avoidable and cannot be called deliberate by any reasonable person. Suaalii did everything right. Everything. He did his role as a defender trying to cut off the play, he got low enough, his technique was correct. "If everything went perfect he would have hit Walsh high on the chest." - proving my point, he got the tackle right. A tackle around the legs is every bit as legal as a tackle high on the chest, attacking low leaves walsh open to offload for the overlap on the outside. Suaalii did everything right. "It's the tacklers responsibility to account for changes in position." - how do you know he didnt, the way walsh is moving, hes only ever going to the outside, he was never going to cut back in, suaalii read the play and tried to cut it off, you cant predict a slip at the last moment, you cant adjust in that time. Leaving feet AFTER contact is irrelevant, he mad contact on the feet, he was in control, he left his feet cause he went through walsh, if walsh didnt slip, he still wouldve sent walsh flying and lifted off after the hit. You are grasping at straws. Him having form is also irrelevant. We are not talking about other incidents, we are talking about this one, in this one he got everything right. As I said before if everything else happened the exact same way, but instead of hitting the head, walsh slipping lead to suaalii landing on walsh's leg awkwardly causing a break, are you going to blame him for that? Is it defenders responsibility? Of course not. It was just an accident. Suaalii went in hard, walsh slipped, they are both equally at fault for what happened and neither are to blame for what happened.
It was a great hit on an overrated flog, only good part of the game was that hit. Ppl are already able to tune out or not give a sh1t about the game already Joel as i don't
When are NSW fans and pundits going to stop blaming the referee for “ruining the game”? How about this. Sua’ali’i ruined the game. Not the referee. It’s a send off, end of story, doesn’t matter what level of the game, it’s a send off. It’s Sua’ali’i’s responsibility to not put himself, his team and his state in that situation.
How many origins does Walsh have left if he keeps getting hit in the head like that? What idiots
He had no intention to tackle him his intent was to kill him
Is this the muppet show?
Suaaalii should get 8 weeks minimum
Why? He lined Reece up at chest level, put his head down and went for it, target height changed.
it was a clear tactic from the start by NSW to do damage to walsh. the fact he left the ground and launched himself at walsh meant his intent was to hit high with shoulder, whether he was aiming intentionally for the head or not he still would have hit him in the neck or lower jaw if walsh had not slipped. the way walsh's neck snapped back made me feel sick.
They definitely wanted to shut him down in defence but to say that wanted to actually hurt or injure him is a huge stretch. There were so many mitigating factors in that tackle
100% they was urged too take him out for sure, nobody talks about how he was hit late in previous set by hudson young and that was let go, mark carroll and benny elias was quoted by media urging the blues to bash walsh.
@@JackH2254 "So many mitigating factors"
MAYBE, MAYBE one in that he slipped microseconds before contact. Thats it.
@@JackH2254you can still hurt legally. Just lower your tackle.
@@michaelolofsson8558 there no maybe. He completely lost his feet before contact. That’s not a maybe. Walsh slipped into it and the initial contact as shown by freeze frame photos that came out today, the first contact still hit the upper chest. If Walsh doesn’t slip he gets folded by a clean shot. Simple as that. Stay on your feet. Walsh is the reason Walsh got slept.
“He’s got 35 origins in front of him”
How many head knocks does he have left mate?
Such a stupid comment. Don’t blame the ref. Blame the player who knows the rules, broke the rules and ruined game 1
To bad ... you can't have a run of the mill player take out the main strike weapon and just allow a replacement. The game needs to be as safe as it can be for such a contact sport, but that was clearly dangerous which could have made an athlete never walk again. We missed out on a great game, but better to have rules which looks after the players. Get over it Joel.
They aren’t paid a just above average salary mate. They’re paid big bucks to cop the hits that are entertaining. Of course if his hit looked intentionally then by all means send him off. no replacement. 7 minutes into the game, an accidental dangerous tackle and they ruin origin.
@@Sleyssaccidental 😂 they're also paid not to almost end a players season. Sualii ruined the game not the ref.
Yep. Center or winger trade for a fullback. Any team will take that.
@@Sleyss Blame Sualii. Blame anyone that told him to do it. Ref was literally just doing his job and did it right. It was by the rules. Shoulder charge to the head, reckless intent, send off all day long.
"You cant punish the fans" Well, tell that to the player and the coach.
There was INTENT, to go after Walsh (Morons: read, to go after, no intentionally hurt).
He fucked the tackle up. He fucked the tackle up in such a bad way that there was no alternative to send him.
This entire conversation is hilarious. He fucked up bad.
It was an accident, I get that, but with how much force he hit him and with the type of hit (shoulder charge to the head) send off all day long. People that say otherwise have no clue.
The ref made the right call,,,,,, DISCIPLINE
How do these guys know Sua's intent? Were they in the sheds before the game? Did Madge have a quiet word with Sua and tell him to not only put pressure on Walsh and mess him up? I find it amusing when NSW pundits claim "We've gotta protect the kicker" every day of the week, but when their golden boy makes a mistake (sure it wasn't intentional - but if your accidents can give a bloke CTE a few years down the track YOU DESERVE TO BE SENT!) they can find hundreds of mitigating circumstances. Here's an idea; The Send Off is meant to be the ultimate deterent, and they are arguing it ruins the game (WRONG - It only ruined this game because it happened so early) In order to keep the game alive have the player sent off, never to return, but after 20 minutes activate the 18th man. Still worse than 10 minutes in the Bin, but gives the team a possible chance to recover. QLD just got ahead and went into slow mo, knowing they were going to wear out their opponents sooner or later. It was dull.
20 minutes may not be enough of a deterrent to be honest, in fact it may be beneficial if they get to activate 18th man. They may have a player that is blundering galore and decide "Righto, you go out there and take off Cleary/Munster/To'o/Walsh's head, you'll cop a send off, but we'll hold and get a fresh 18th man in the back end of the game and then win."
Joels love language is physical touch, love him
You will see many players medically retire if direct head shots aren’t eliminated from the game.
Definitely a send off. The old players know it as well but they are now in the media business so they see it from and entertainment view point.
Walsh and sualii both know it was a send off. Munster said he was upset to see the game ruined, but it was a send off.
They players now are just as hard as the oldies but they understand the rules that they play within. It sucks for game.
But its right decision.
Sad to see the oldies trying to create a scenario where that tackle is okay now.
Imagine Latrel did it and the whole scenario changes to how much of a grub he is.
It's just the media creating clicks (which is really the whole purpose of the talking heads).
Never thought I would be praising Fittler, but he's been the most consistent with his opinions on these types of tackles.
If Walsh suffered a broken neck would we be having this conversation
If Cobbo was at fullback we wouldn't be having this conversation, it would've been tackle of the century.
Send off everyday of the week
Intentional high contact - off
Unintentonall high contact - 10 mins
It's not that simple. It was a Shoulder charge to the head, it wasn't a tackle that just slipped up over the shoulder into the head. It was forceful, it was reckless and it was at pace, point of the shoulder went straight into Reece' head. Accident of not, that is a send off.
I axed the game 15 min into 2nd half.
Nobody wants to see that. what if Rice didn't wake up and actually died? what if he woke up but couldnt play footy again cause he became mentally challenged. I blame Suaali. It doesnt matter if Rice slips Suaali has to go down alot lower. There's no point tacking like that anyway.
also Suaali shouldnt even be playing. Hes already turned his back on League; hes going to union
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Yeah, I get Sua'ali'i didn't go out to attack Reece Walsh head. But he was intending on putting on a big shot! Problem was, he got the height wrong. Even though Walsh slipped and he may have dropped marginally in height, the tackle always looked like it was going to be high.
Anyway, I'm happy to hear alternative for teams not having to play one player down. But there has to be some significant penalty, otherwise all outstanding players will become targets, as their loss will greatly affect their team.
Reece has had his head target 5 times this year. Also if a toddler runs out in front of your car. You’re still liable for hitting it, same here. Reece can fall all he wants Joey still has to not hit him in the head.
Yes definitely a send off! One of the reasons Maroons were able to take advantage of the 13-12 situation so well is because they had Cobbo as a sub... And Hammer slotted back to FB so well! In other situations a team can get greatly disadvantaged if one of their star attacking players is out for the game! For example, hypothetically if Turbo is taken out by a similar tackle in a NSW team in origin or for Manly in a GF then that would greatly affect both NSW and Manly in such a situation especially if they don't have any backs in the bench! By the way, the videos on the playlist on my channel titled 'Purpose of Life?' might interest some people!
@@Giveme1goodreason because he needs to stay on his feet and also stop dipping into tackles. Walsh technique is rubbish. He has to take some responsibility for his own head mate. Stay in your feet and take your licks like a man stead of falling over yourself trying to avoid contact. Bro is a cat.
@@dbo4506 You can call him a cat until you're blue in the face for all I care, but Joe deserved the send off. It's Reece's job as the ball carrier to move the ball in a way that benefits his team and eventually get the ball to the other team's end for a try......it is not his job to protect his head, it's the defender's job to legally stop the ball carrier while protecting the ball carrier's head. If Reece slips (which he did, but it didn't cause him to drop much) then the tackler has to make sure to account for that......if he is already charging at him full speed (which there is nothing against that act alone) it is his job to make sure to hit the ball carrier legally.....Sualii did not do that, not only did he shoulder charge Reece......He got him in the head. Instant send off all day long.
@@dbo4506and Suaaliis tackling technique was trash 😂
The Blues had the opportunity to create a miracle and they bottled it. Winners play to the last second and believe in miracles. NSW commentators saying 'it was over after 7 minutes' prove how much faith they had in their team.
You admit in a grand final players might deliberately take out a player but that wouldn’t happen in origin? And because it’s suaalii only season you reckon he wouldn’t be slipped some cash to take someone’s head off of suspension were aligned with a club?
The game has fan because of the stars that play the game. You end Walsh’s career that way and the game would lose a lot of young girls who watch and probably some blokes too. Which in 10 years time they won’t be letting their kids play league because of what happened and it destroys the game.
Definitely some blokes too......have you seen Reece Walsh? Man's a model haha.
Im a Qld supporter. Really disappointed the nsw players didn't have the same mentality as the nsw fans. Nsw side should've given up after 8mins and qld should've won by 80 points instead they wanted to try and make it competitive and it just ruined the whole game for me.
Feels sorry for suuali, what about the bloke who nearly had his head removed ffs.
Wahhh wahh NSW such sooks. Game 2 1989 in Sydney QLD lost Meninga Vautin Langer Hancock and Linder played 75mins with a broken leg, 12 men no interchange over half the game. They still won, because unlike 9 million of u sooks 7 mins into a series, qlder never give up, losing isn’t an option until it’s already done and over.
You had chances to win and you bottled it the stage was set and you shit the bed again, that’s the narrative.
Intent or not, direct contact to the head, he came in at full speed and couldn’t pull out. It’s a send off. Do we care about the game or CTE. I bleed maroon but if it was Val hitting Teddy in the exact same circumstance, I would be saying the same thing. Send him off. They should get 6 weeks too, not 4. Jamming outside in is a risk on the attacking player. If they get it wrong, which he did, then they need to pay for it. CTE is no joke. There will be no game if ex players start suing the NRL for not taking care of them.
Walsh slipped. Walsh got it wrong. Stay on your feet. That’s not the defenders fault. That’s Reece’s fault.
@@dbo4506 The fuck are you smoking? Reece usually dips when passing, his slipping only dropped his head by about a cm. Sualii didn't account for Reece' usual dip when passing and got him high. Also he shoulder charged Reece.......You're going to blame Reece for getting shoulder charged? Again....what the fuck are you smoking?
By that argument, then all the players from both sides should get a plaque because their families are there, and the game is for the fans.
By the way, your cheating, holding down, doesn't work. You give away penalties, and you waste energy doing it and pretending to be tied up.
If suali'i didn't do it, suali'i wouldn't of ruined the game..... "nice f*cking debut"
10 in the bin, sort it out at the judiciary. It ruined the whole game and potentially the series..
Yep agree! Turned t.v off after that! Ref might as well have been wearing qld jersey!
I don't think I'd like it if nsw player was knocked out that's the fukin truth but I don't agree with 13 v 12
Reece Walse said it him self
It was a good hit, just gotta roll with the punches, it is what it is!
So you can smash a player in the head but not get sent off so you dont upset the fans.
Even Brad Fittler said it was a send off.
It wasa terrible tackle and got what it deserved.
NSW have a few grub players.
Reece Walse said it him self
It was a good hit, just gotta roll with the punches, it is what it is!
I wouldn't be happy if a nsw player was knocked out.
I like Reese n alot of the other players.
I turned t.v off after that, A.K might as well been wearing qld jesery.
My opinion like it or not that's on you.
If it was other way around you too would be saying same thing!!!! So dont pretend like you wouldn't have the same thought regarding send off and having 13 v 12
That's were its really unfair and fuk3d up!
13 on 12 what a load of 💩
After 7 mins there was no chance of a win!!!
Have a great day nsw/qld supporters
May the refs keep the NRL games entertaining and worthwhile for their money's worth of the gate fees etc etc when making decisions while officiating the NRL games. to keep it alive and interesting and enjoyable to watch from the beginning to the end of each game. Game was put off for 12 men against 13. All the best ref.Mareta
So spear tackles which result in a send-off are intentional? Freddy Lussick getting sent off for his charge down on Illias was intentional? Or... just reckless play and poor technique?
How in hell has Joseph S become the victim in this?? Acting like he hasn't got form for poor technique and ball running knee first.
This will go down as one of the dumbest takes of all time.
The boss of the nrl should go back to pacing and tha sidekick should help bill at the ndis
What a load of crap. So, illegal play is fine, and punishment is too hard for modern players? Hold on i will grab you a saucer of milk. How bout Gordon tallis send off for dissent? I bet you didn't think that was a travesty.
I'm a QLDer and Tallis' send off was warranted. But so was this Sualii one.
@SilentHotdog28 That is correct. It's the ref's decision not ours. As a Queenslander , I would like to ask you a question. If we had a player sent off, would you leave Suncorp or any other ground? I know I wouldn't. I would assume that my support suddenly became more important than it was a minute ago. I can't get over that their so-called fans only want to be there for their victories.
Joel please as the greatest grub Gal said about NSW were ''so bwave'', so Joel, be bwave. As far as the fans at the stadium go, as The Axe said ''we couldn't give a rats'' that a whole state of blues are disappointed. Boohoo boohoo once again.
This is the stupidest take I've ever heard.
They got a player who is leaving the sport at the end of the season to foul one of the key players of the side.
You can't just allow NSW to send on a scape goat to clean KO walsh and then go on to replace him and win the game.
The NSW coash and Joseph ruined the game for the fans NOT the rules designed yo protect players.
This punishment goes beyond one game of origin. The NSW coach now OWES the fans a good game. He is the one who is in debt not the game of NRL.
You cant ruin the game for the fans.
Blatent knock out tackle where he gets it wrong.
Pick one.
Send off everyday of the week. Premeditated and all so tell ya story walking pal.
This is the last time I am saying this can the boss of the nrl the trot guy who game is in crisis the nrl is so clueless in 24 the game should be deemed a no contest a annulment and all betting agencies to refund all losing bets as I said I have seen them all the worse in history mate people turn the product off people leaving the venue the player needs a lot of work to do on his attacking positional play I beg all 17 ceo I hold a summit get together for the game sake and vote for a annulment and no contest rule so your team do not get robbed blind the nrl is in crisis that was garbage
NRL should make change for the game, NRL should change 17th to 18th players a team if a player gets sent off he leaves the game a Bench player covers that position interchange is now 7 with 4 players left on Bench punish the player not the team..
so players can just do anything they want in origin simply because "we cant ruin the game for everyone"? bloody stupid opinion. you dont like the refs making send off calls, but now you want them to decide if a shot was intentional or not? do you see how stupid that is?
God there are some clowns here. The send off is for deliberate acts of foul play. Suaalii clearly aimed low and committed to the tackle, walsh slipped and changed the target, there was no chance of either pulling out, it obviously wasnt a deliberate act of foul play, so why was it a send off. If thats called a sin bin as it shouldve been, noone complains. The only people who seem to disagree are qlders but we all know if the roles were reversed and one of theirs went off like that theyd all be saying the same things I am.
If you want an example of what a real send off worthy offence is, look up Greenhill on Harragon. Harragon ran at the line upright, Greenhill rushed in with a swinging arm, jumped and clotheslined the head. Deliberate act of foul play. Noone could complain about that one. You look at both tackles, one person clearly tried to do the right thing, the other person clearly tried to injure another player
It sucks walsh got ruled out but that was an accident. Suaaliis ruling out however was not an accident. So as much as people will say, well he took out our best player or whatever, players go down through accidents, its a contact sport, the bunker has a million angles and shouldnt be getting that wrong, particularly because its origin.
Why the NRL still hasnt figured out how to take falling players into account is beyond me, so many of these rubbish calls would stop instantly.
Any fan who went to that game should get their money back.
You are delusional man lol....
So spear tackles which result in a send-off are intentional? Freddy Lussick getting sent off for his charge down on Illias was intentional? Or... just reckless play and poor technique?
How in hell has Joseph S become the victim in this?? Acting like he hasn't got form for poor technique and ball running knee first.
This will go down as one of the dumbest takes of all time.
@chillyfish5676 your first question is malformed, I have no idea what you're trying to say.
Freddy lussick attacked through the legs. Ilias didn't trip or change anything, the fault was all lussick.
Suaalii is the "victim" because he was sent off in shitty circumstances. He got the technique right, he didnt leave the ground, walsh slipped into it.
If walsh doesn't fall, it's a perfect tackle, therefore the trip is a contributing factor to what went wrong and why walsh got knocked out.
If everything else stayed exactly the same, but instead of hitting the head when walsh slipped, suaalii landed on Walsh's legs and broke one, is it a send off, no, because the trip was a contributing factor, it was an accident.
By the rules any contact to the head is a pen and forceful is a bin, I think everyone would be fine with the bin because clearly there was forceful contact to the head. But it's also clear to anyone with half a brain that wasn't intentional and walsh falling was the reason the tackle went wrong.
@bigtomivan im suggesting your statement that send offs are for deliberate acts of foul play is not true. I was referencing spear tackles and the tackle on Illias as clear examples that this is not the case. These are not deliberate acts and still result in send offs because their technique is reckless and either risks or results in harm to the other player. If everything went perfect he would have hit Walsh high on the chest. He had 5 foot below that which he could have aimed for. It's football played at a fast pace. It's the tacklers responsibility to account for changes in position.
And he did leave his feet. Milli seconds after contact, he's flying through the air like Superman. He has form for recklessness in how he enters contact as well.
@@chillyfish5676 if there is a spear, the defender lifted the attacker, if theres contact with legs, it because the defender attacked the legs, these are deliberate actions and avoidable. A tripping player is not avoidable and cannot be called deliberate by any reasonable person.
Suaalii did everything right. Everything. He did his role as a defender trying to cut off the play, he got low enough, his technique was correct.
"If everything went perfect he would have hit Walsh high on the chest." - proving my point, he got the tackle right.
A tackle around the legs is every bit as legal as a tackle high on the chest, attacking low leaves walsh open to offload for the overlap on the outside. Suaalii did everything right.
"It's the tacklers responsibility to account for changes in position." - how do you know he didnt, the way walsh is moving, hes only ever going to the outside, he was never going to cut back in, suaalii read the play and tried to cut it off, you cant predict a slip at the last moment, you cant adjust in that time.
Leaving feet AFTER contact is irrelevant, he mad contact on the feet, he was in control, he left his feet cause he went through walsh, if walsh didnt slip, he still wouldve sent walsh flying and lifted off after the hit. You are grasping at straws.
Him having form is also irrelevant. We are not talking about other incidents, we are talking about this one, in this one he got everything right.
As I said before if everything else happened the exact same way, but instead of hitting the head, walsh slipping lead to suaalii landing on walsh's leg awkwardly causing a break, are you going to blame him for that? Is it defenders responsibility? Of course not. It was just an accident.
Suaalii went in hard, walsh slipped, they are both equally at fault for what happened and neither are to blame for what happened.
It was a great hit on an overrated flog, only good part of the game was that hit.
Ppl are already able to tune out or not give a sh1t about the game already Joel as i don't
That send off was rubbish!! Reece fell, Joseph bent over, chest high, at full flight like how they're trained and it is what it is!! Fair hit!!!