Who put this together? You have some major facts wrong and I'm here to "right" them. I am the widow of Robert VdK and I was in Hawaii when the accident happened. They were filming when the chopper went down so the two David's (Jones and Butler) were right there to look for him, long before any rescue chopper came. He was gone. There are currents in the area and sharks so I knew that night what probably happened to his body. His seat belt was not fastened and that's why he was thrown from the chopper. I don't understand the clothes in the chopper. I think I remember keys being returned to me. There was no "flame-out" but I'm not surprised the studio would make up what they needed to reject responsibility. It's a well known fact the studios will put you at "risk" for a good "shot". I was told that day by eye witnesses that Sanders was too close to the water and large waves came up and pulled the chopper down. A month later, I saw Bob Sanders in person while I spent Xmas with a good friend in Berkeley. He was so distraught and full of guilt, I had to console him instead of the other way around. He went on to fly the KGO TV News chopper in S.F. I was NOT pregnant, but we were trying to start our family at the time. And where did you get those pictures? That picture of Robert is from high school and he was 34 when he died. I'd like to know who your source is and why after 43 years this is coming up? Just looking for sensational stories? The story of "black face" its totally false. This is the first time I heard it. Sanders is black and the double for the pilot in the show. The double for Magnum decided he didn't want to go up in the air that day so Robert volunteered. Little did they know that decision would change everybody's life forever. The studio tried to pay me off with $50,000 workers compensation but since Robert wasn't doing the job he was hired to do, we had them responsible for much more. I had to hire an attorney (a specialist in air crashes) and after 5 years we settled. The attorney got his 35% and I got less than what is stated in this video. The worst part is that both David's who were Robert's best friends changed their story under the pressure of not working again. An asst. director willing to talk was found working in Italy where the studio had sent him to work and "stay away". My lawyer found him, so with his "statement" they had no case and we settled. To tell the truth, I was too devastated to ever go through a trial. Robert was my soul mate and the love of my life. He's still with me in spirit. Hollywood is dying. Karma counts.
Thank you for your post. I’m sorry some of the facts were incorrect. My source for “pregnant wife at home” was Larry Manetti, who talked about it on the E! True Hollywood Story for Magnum as well as in his book. The “black face” story came from a quote from Roger Mosley in a newspaper profile written about him in 1981. Bob Sanders put forth the “flame out” idea only a day or so after the incident in a newspaper story that interviewed him. As for the pictures, Bob’s high school photo was the only one I could find. Thanks again for adding such rich detail to my story. I’m truly very sorry for your loss and would happily forward to you a complete list of the sources used for the video.
@@tvsbesteps Back in "the day" we thought we could rely on the press. We know now, we can't so pulling all your facts from news articles on what people "say" is irresponsible unless confirmed. Words mean nothing anymore. Of course, Sanders would put out the "flame-out" theory to alleviate himself of the responsibility he felt, a day later. Let me tell you, that man across the table from me, Bob Sanders a month later, was riddled with guilt. He knew. You can keep your sources. I know the truth and who cares anyways. It was so long ago. I mark the anniversary of his death on Nov. 19th every year. His sudden passing devastated many lives. He will be remembered all these years later as a wonderful and compassionate man.
I flew with a guy who did some flying for Magnum PI up in Alaska back in '97, He smacked a ridge in Hawaii sometime later, his widow and a lot of us think that the tail rotor came apart on the machine he was flying. I retired from flying two years ago. I never had any interest in doing tours or flying for movie productions. Guys get pushed to do stupid stuff, like bouncing that skid in the opening scenes of Magnum PI. He told me that he almost lost it too. 40 years in the rearview mirror.
Such good memories of these old shows like Magnum PI and Rockford Files. Dukes of Hazard, Knight Rider, A-Team, Fall Guy, etc...the list goes on and on. I didn't know about this crash on the show filming. Reminds me of the Twilight Zone movie crash. Glen Larsen is responsible for my love of both Cylons and KITT's iconic scanner light.
@@daleburnfart6845 Did you also get that fcked up feeling in about the 4th grade that "something is wrong here"? That was the first inkling for me that I was being raised in a goddamn insidously vitriolic, yet subtle culture war. (And I was using that actual term before it was ever mentioned in media. Too) I really felt it man. You're about to see a real war break out here if they don't stop letting in so many men. A full 1/3 of Gen Z men will be incels for life due to the shortage of 30 million women under 40. Major unrest rarely _does not_ break out when it gets this bad. You won't find it on the census either because these extra 30 million+ men are all undocumented. This shits about to get crazy when all the men here realize they are doomed to be lonely old fogeys at age 25.
@@fidelcatsro6948 Believe me, he was in hell the rest of his life. I saw it first hand. Remember, in Hollywood you do what you're told and if you don't, they find someone else.
@@ProgNoizesB Excuse me. Find someone else? You've never know true love is you think it can be replaced. AND this was 43 years ago. I'm 77 and not interested in a relationship. I did my life on my own and am proud of it.
@@fincafeliz6402 Some people do what they're told to do, and others with egos go further. This is clearly a case of the latter. The pilot wouldn't even take any accountability for his actions and blames it on anything else.
My school teacher from the 80s lived next door to Tom Selleck while the filming of this show was being made she used to collect his mail for him and showed us some photos of her with Tom and the red Ferrari was pretty cool to have known her Mrs K was the coolest teacher I ever had in Australia which is were I had her as a teacher in years 7 to 11
It was in 1980 or 1981 when I had the opportunity to fly in a similar Hughes helicopter, I was about 6 or 7. I remember how agile it was and how incredibly fast a pilot could manoeuvre it to into almost ridiculous moves. I'm not sure I would want to try it again nowadays.
When I was in school (mechanical engineering), I distinctly remember one of our professors calling helicopters, "flying fatigue machines." Meaning every part on there was of limited life span (due to the absolute necessity for lightness). In fact just after getting married, in 1994, and on our honeymoon, two helicopters went down around the time we were there. Thiese tours had become very common as Magnum PI"s popularity was high.
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I really appreciate this video essay. I’m a new helicopter pilot (just earned my instructor cert), with the sole intention of becoming a movie film pilot, or aerial cinematography which is the technical term. Even though I grew up when Magnum PI was still playing on tv, I had no idea this accident occurred. The most fascinating part is that the footage has stayed concealed even after all these years. I wonder if a FOIA is something that would work to retrieve the footage, if it still exists.
I'd rethink your ambition to work in the movie business. It's not all glitz and glamour and you'll be asked to do dangerous things if "they want the shot". Don't forget, Bob's co-workers were also his best friends. They turned on me and the evidence to protect their jobs and be able to work in the future. Hollywood is dead as all the dark secrets are spilling out. You came here as a Spiritual being to have a human experience. Selling your soul to the devil is the wrong way to go.
When I saw this , it was the first time I saw any footage. I was told the actual film of the crash would not be released to "protect me". Yea sure, like they cared about me. No need for a FOIA. I know what happened, as I was there. Seeing the footage means nothing at this point.
The helicopter pilots in Vietnam did this routinely to get wounded and dead off the battlefield , all while getting shot at! Gotta admit, these pilots must be unique.
The character Thomas Magnum was a SEAL . Although a Special Operations Operative that in no way makes him part of Special Forces 2:10 nor a Soldier since those two very specific terms are part of the Army. SEALs are Special Operations Sailors. I know that may be hard to comprehend, but there are Special Operations personnel in all branches of service including Special Forces, Soldiers (Green Beret), Pararescue, Airmen (PJs) Recon Force Marines. Of course that includes Sea Air Land (SEAL) Sailors from the Navy as well as a myriad of other Special Operations personnel from all branches of the service, possibly with the exception of Space Force at the moment. Yes, USCG has Special Operations personnel too. Thus endith this lesson.
I'll go one step further. Being in Special Operations does not require being a SEAL, SF, Pararescue, etc. I spent two years assigned to SOCCENT (Special Operations Command Central) as a logistics planner. As with any military operation, 90% of it is the logistics tail. The pointy end rightfully gets all the attention and the glory because they are the ones assuming the greatest risk.
Support, Service Support and any auxiliary functions can legitimately consider themselves part of an operators realm of influence. This was part of the distress felt for some personnel being able to wear particular identifying apparel, patches and insignias that were (prior to changes) in doctrine only authorized for those that had actually gone through specific training or conflict hierarchy. In all seriousness though personnel are often attached whether they be of support role or direct combat arms, 11B in and of itself is not a designation for Special Operations but may well be assigned direct interdiction duties alongside Special Operation Actions. The US military is by far the most logistic intensive military around the world. It is not uncommon to acknowledge the use of 10 personnel are in full time employment to provide direct and and indirect support for one front line war fighter. Unlike China, Russia and so many other adversarial nations, they may find it hard to have but 3 personnel in support.
Back in 85 or 86 .. Tom selleck hit me with his Land Over.. I remember the vehicle because I had a 85 Toyota four wheel drive , and that Land Rover stood out..Well waiting in line at in&out burger on Seventh ave and the 60 freeway. I had no idea at first it was Selleck . He Barely tapped my left knee. I didn’t even feel it. He kinda freaked out.. I said don’t worry about it I barely felt it. He stopped and talked to me I was shocked it was him . He had his wife and children with him.. They were on the to Palm Springs.. I think it was a Land Rover.. I remember it had all light brown leather interior. The truck was dark green.. Thirty Seven Years ago. You have to know how the burger place is and the restrooms were you have to cross in front of the cars in walk up .. And Tom drove through. I swear this really happened to me.. I let go he Nicked me..
Helicopters are so dangerous. I used to work in choppers and all the time, all we think is:"safety, safety, safety!" Luckily, my organisation got it and put pilots in charge of safety. Admittedly, they let me (unqualified) fly the chopper home on my last day. All the guys were x army and good sports.
Wow some of those video shots of the Helo skimming the water had less than two feet over the waves at high speed, totally reckless disregard for their lives, the passengers and the equipment. It's no wonder the pilot crashed the copter with a rouge wave hitting the skid. Thanks for sharing. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
Thank you for this behind the scenes look at what occurred. You caught me by surprise when you picked Death & Taxes as one of the best episodes, as it is my favorite. Many other people that I’ve spoken to don’t see it that way at all.
Roger E Mosely has to take some blame for the poor guy dying. If he hadn't complained about the white helicopter pilot trying to look like his character they wouldn't have had to employ the other guy.
I’m sure he kept his mouth shut after that, cause the very white Steve Kux played his stunt double for the reminder of the series, and his skills as a pilot were absolutely flawless. He was also a great long line pilot also, until a broken control linkage in one of the sister ships he was flying, nearly killed him in Oahu.
The clips of the helicopter without the emergency floats is a 500C not a D. The D has a 5-bladed main rotor and a T-tail. The C has a 4-blade main rotor and a diagonal tail.
@@tvsbestepsit’s a pretty minor thing that only pilots or enthusiasts would notice. I’ve flown both… love the 500, extremely fun and agile helicopter to fly.
@nocalsteve Hang on… of course you are right about the differences between the 500C & 500D. But…. You have to keep in mind that over the course of Magnum P. I.’s eight seasons that there were actually four different Hughes MD500’s that depicted T. C.’s “Chopper”. There were three 500D’s & one peel painted 500C. The 500C was only temporarily peel painted in the orange, yellow & brown diagonal D4 bands to impersonate T. C.’s “Chopper” long enough to finish filming “Skin Deep” & it also appeared a couples of episodes later, in “The Ugliest Dog in Hawaii” with some of its peel paint, peeling off. They even gave that 500C the fake N58243 registration number to initially cover up the crash. After that the 500C only appeared as stock footage & wasn’t used for primary filming once N1095A was found as the new replacement “Chopper”. Once those two episodes & the necessary stock footage of the 500C was filmed, it’s peel paint was washed off & it went back to its normal paint job underneath. In addition to N58243 the original “Chopper” that tragically crashed there were two other Hughes 500D (369D) model helicopters that depicted T. C.’s “Chopper”. N1095A from S1 through the end of S6 & it did not have the emergency pop out floats. Then Jetcopters Inc couldn’t negotiate a contract with Universal Studios & N1095A went away after S6. A white 500D (369D) N4943T was painted as a replica of T. C.’s “Chopper” to complete S7 & S8. N4943T also did not have the emergency pop out floats. Keep in mind that stock footage of N58243, the unknown 500C, N1095A & N4943T were used throughout the series. Only the original Hughes 500D (369D) was equipped with the pop out floats & it tragically crashed during the filming of the 6th episode.
Airwolf, which was technically a magnum P. I. Spin-off and was created by Don Bellesario also had a helicopter crash. Unfortunately it ended up being fatal, killing stuntman Reid Rhondell.
Ok, how is Airwolf "technically" a Magnum spin-off? They have nothing in common. Helicopters? Thats the main theme of Airwolf but only an occasionally used means of transportation in Magnum. The Ferrari is more often on camera than the chopper...
Yes not really a spin off, but more like a sister show. Don Bellisario produced both and both shows shared some crew and pilots. The man playing the cop whom Stringfellow takes up over Universal Studios in the Airwolf pilot is the same man who was piloting the second copter in this story; the man who called the mayday.
Something smells funny if the camera chopper was saying to wrap it up for the day why would the pilot decide on his own to do more takes. Feels to me like someone ordered or requested a redo. The fact that they didn't want the star or even the stunt double for a stunt (isn't that what stuntmen do) really seems strange. My guess is the supposed flameout was a idea of the film studio for a couple reasons. To not get the pilot in trouble or as much for an error and because he was told to do that risky stunt flying too low. Only a couple years later Landis would cause multiple deaths by having a pilot flying too low and getting downed by special effects. Actually still shouting lower as it was struck already being far too low for safety. This feels like a similar situation a pilot pressured into risk by the producers.
@@ReeferMadman if you believe the pilot’s “engine out” story, you have no understanding of aviation and are ignoring the NTSB findings and the very rare suspension by the FAA.
@@ReeferMadmanoh yeah, trust a known liar who gave some bs engine failure story? I’ve flown helis for over 20 years, and practically every variant of the MD500, and there’s absolutely no mistaking an autorotation from CFIT, especially since it was all caught on film? the NTSB would’ve instantly caught a engine failure, but they didn’t.
Vietnam scout helicopter pilots were used ot flying very low (5'). So flying low would have been normal for an ex army Hughes Cayuse pilot. So the possibility that the pilot did not take into account that waves are often not consistent and will have some, sometimes much, higher than the others, is a likely guess.
An early example of identity politics gone wrong. They hired a pilot because of the color of his skin and not his qualifications. Then that pilots poor flying skills and questionable judgement wind up killing someone!
If he was thrown from the chopper how did some of his shredded clothes stay in the cockpit? I am sure he must have been belted in his seat. The NTSB could have determined if the engine flamed out. What does the NTSB report state? Some things not covered very well. Very sad this young man lost his life. I am glad the production company gave his widow some monetary compensation. Thanks for sharing this.
There was no flame-out. There was video of the crash and they knew exactly how it happened. Dangerous flying resulting in a death, followed first by lies and then by an out-of-court settlement.
I'd never get into those helicopters in Hawaii. I lived out there for several years and read the newspapers every day. Wasn't always on the TV news but every other month or so there was an article about one going down crashing or making an emergency landing. Happens all the time. The winds coming off the ocean and into those mountains is too unpredictable.
The theme song was playing in my head with the video of the helicopter flying, it's was my favourite show when I was 8. Cool paint job on the helicopters too.
Ian McShane! 2:20 Kewl dude. Also the hotel manager in the John Wick movies and the RAF flight Sargeant that "went for a swim" in the 1969 movie 'Battle of Britain'.
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ." Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky." Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"
The pilot, just on the press quotes, was a liar. He was also reckless, unprofessional, and unqualified for those flying conditions. The fact that appropriately skilled pilots were dismissed simply because their skin tone offended the actor is infuriating, irresponsible, and tragic. There is nothing wrong with wigs hats mustaches and makeup for long shots!
I thought something was familiar with that. My memory thought it was a short clip from the helicopter that tried to tow a boat but upended and crashed in the water.
Yeah, the pilot obviously lied on the the flameout causing the crash however, you’re wrong about them not losing power rapidly if they quit. Turbine engines don’t sputter and stall until they eventually lose power, like you see in the movies. When they fail, it is sudden and instant, which is why you only have a few seconds to act accordingly before you’re rotor rpm decays into catastrophe.
Roger Mosley was actually a helicopter pilot also, but they didn't use him to pilot any helicopters in the show, in case something like this happened, they didn't want to lose a star. Stuntman, or crew members, fine, just not a star.
Pilot flies dangerously near the water, then lies after causing the death of his passenger. It's said he was weighed down by the guilt. I sure hope so.
@@VictoryAviationhappened after the series wrapped up in 88, in which the stunt pilot of the series Steve Kux was doing a long line job in Oahu, and had a runaway trim failure only 3ft off the ground and nearly died. a fellow Vietnam Vet basically saved him by lifting the 1500lb aircraft above water until rescuers could pulled his unconscious body out. there’s a video of it kicking around, and it’s pretty nuts how quickly it went south.
Hughes called them ALL Model Number 369. The Army gave Hughes’ Model # 369 the designation of the OH-6 Cayuse. The civilian market calls them the Hughes 500. In 1984, McDonnell Douglas bought Hughes Helicopters. So, it’s not necessarily incorrect to refer to them as a Hughes 500 or an MD500. It technically was designed by Hughes… But anyway they are ALL technically Model number 369.
l admit l watched the show and loved it but after hearing recently about how he has lured so many elderly people into 2nd mortgages they cant afford and how so many families disrupted estates and lost the ability to pass homes down the kids its upsetting. That add campaign has been going on for years now and he's making fortune and the costs to all those retired fans of his works who are being duped out of their homes is horrendous.
I've heard too many stories of movie producer's putting shots before people and i absolutely believe the widows story it's a Damn shame movie companies and any companies putting human life at stake for there profits and trying to chisel the families out of money for the lose or damage to their loved ones. That's the big crime here and they get away with it most of the time.
@@tvsbestepsyep, that was the infamous video of that upturned 500 with the Pilot drowning, but was saved by his fellow Nam pal “Tiny”, who actually lifted the 1500lb ship and saved him!
The pilot was an idiot for flying that close, especially when the skids already touched water earlier during the shoot! I’m surprised nobody from the second helicopter didn’t radio the clown, and remind him he’s driving Hughes 500, not a frigging Donzi? But hey, at least they didn’t have to use Blackface I guess? Ugh.
helicopters are already expending most of it's energy to beat the snot out of the air. Then add aerobatics and crazy g-forces and it spells disaster sometimes.
Stupid argument of pilot Sanders. Fly too low on any aircraft is dangerous not only because the near of the ground and posible colission, it´s dangerous because of an engine fail. To gain speed without engine power, it needs altitude to dive nose down and speed up. Flying low was not the main crash cause, it was a sleeve of the chain of causes of the accident.
The helos weren’t MD500D as McDonalld Douglas hadn’t purchased/taken over Hughes aircraft company at the time. The Helos were just plain Hughes 500 D choppers.
Yup, I was trying to figure out what he was doing by saying that the helo is a Hughes MD 500D. I guess an honest mistake by somebody that is not an aviation enthusiast. I have also seen a Hughes 500C used in the filming of the series.
You say that the divers found the helicopter that fans were familiar with, but that guy says in Aloha Magnum that he was afraid the accident would cause the show to stop “before it even premiered”. Which is it?
@@tvsbesteps My point exactly, and if this helicopter was only used for a few episodes then it’s just the design that viewers were familiar with since it would’ve been mostly a different one used on the show.
My wife and I just took Paradise helicopter doors off trip around Oahu in Feb 2024 and really enjoyed it. Sad to watch this after our tour as Paradise is listed as the company in the crash documentary 😞
@andybroer651 No, Andy. That is incorrect sir. The Paradise (K & S) Helicopters that you flew with was not even created until 1997 & is also called K & S Helicopters. It was a totally different company in 1980 with the name “Paradise Helicopter INC.” who owned N58243 the Hughes 500D (369D) that crashed. The NTSB Report says that the 500D in Bob Sander’s crash that claimed the life of 34 year old Robert Sanders was owned by Paradise Helicopters INC. The Paradise Helicopters that you flew with has two nice replicas of the Magnum P. I. Helicopter, but since it wasn’t created until 1997, it had nothing to do with the Magnum P. I. television series from the 1980’s. .
@@andybroer651 Yes sir. You are welcome. I just wanted to clarify that the “Paradise Helicopters INC.” associated with the Magnum P. I. helicopter crash (N58243) was not affiliated nor associated in any way with the modern Paradise (K & S) Helicopters (cerated in 1997) that you & your wife flew with. In a Hawaiian 🌺 paradise, I guess paradise is just a popular name. Mahalo!
@@slowery43 and it sounds you post comments when you could just keep on scrolling, especially considering there are all kinds of other comments stating similarly blatant obvious things, in this thread alone.
Just wanted to say I’m really enjoying your content. You’re on your way, man. Really look forward to more.
That’s so encouraging to hear! Thanks for taking the time to post that!
I agree. Great production value. Really good for a fledgling channel with only 2.7k subs.
Thank you!
Who put this together? You have some major facts wrong and I'm here to "right" them. I am the widow of Robert VdK and I was in Hawaii when the accident happened. They were filming when the chopper went down so the two David's (Jones and Butler) were right there to look for him, long before any rescue chopper came. He was gone. There are currents in the area and sharks so I knew that night what probably happened to his body. His seat belt was not fastened and that's why he was thrown from the chopper. I don't understand the clothes in the chopper. I think I remember keys being returned to me.
There was no "flame-out" but I'm not surprised the studio would make up what they needed to reject responsibility. It's a well known fact the studios will put you at "risk" for a good "shot". I was told that day by eye witnesses that Sanders was too close to the water and large waves came up and pulled the chopper down. A month later, I saw Bob Sanders in person while I spent Xmas with a good friend in Berkeley. He was so distraught and full of guilt, I had to console him instead of the other way around. He went on to fly the KGO TV News chopper in S.F.
I was NOT pregnant, but we were trying to start our family at the time.
And where did you get those pictures? That picture of Robert is from high school and he was 34 when he died. I'd like to know who your source is and why after 43 years this is coming up? Just looking for sensational stories?
The story of "black face" its totally false. This is the first time I heard it. Sanders is black and the double for the pilot in the show. The double for Magnum decided he didn't want to go up in the air that day so Robert volunteered. Little did they know that decision would change everybody's life forever.
The studio tried to pay me off with $50,000 workers compensation but since Robert wasn't doing the job he was hired to do, we had them responsible for much more. I had to hire an attorney (a specialist in air crashes) and after 5 years we settled. The attorney got his 35% and I got less than what is stated in this video.
The worst part is that both David's who were Robert's best friends changed their story under the pressure of not working again. An asst. director willing to talk was found working in Italy where the studio had sent him to work and "stay away". My lawyer found him, so with his "statement" they had no case and we settled. To tell the truth, I was too devastated to ever go through a trial. Robert was my soul mate and the love of my life. He's still with me in spirit. Hollywood is dying. Karma counts.
Thank you for your post. I’m sorry some of the facts were incorrect. My source for “pregnant wife at home” was Larry Manetti, who talked about it on the E! True Hollywood Story for Magnum as well as in his book. The “black face” story came from a quote from Roger Mosley in a newspaper profile written about him in 1981. Bob Sanders put forth the “flame out” idea only a day or so after the incident in a newspaper story that interviewed him. As for the pictures, Bob’s high school photo was the only one I could find. Thanks again for adding such rich detail to my story. I’m truly very sorry for your loss and would happily forward to you a complete list of the sources used for the video.
@@tvsbesteps Back in "the day" we thought we could rely on the press. We know now, we can't so pulling all your facts from news articles on what people "say" is irresponsible unless confirmed. Words mean nothing anymore. Of course, Sanders would put out the "flame-out" theory to alleviate himself of the responsibility he felt, a day later. Let me tell you, that man across the table from me, Bob Sanders a month later, was riddled with guilt. He knew. You can keep your sources. I know the truth and who cares anyways. It was so long ago. I mark the anniversary of his death on Nov. 19th every year. His sudden passing devastated many lives. He will be remembered all these years later as a wonderful and compassionate man.
Thank you for sharing your story.
I'm sorry for your loss.
I'm so sorry you went though that. Helplessness. Anyways thanks for sharing
Set it strait thanks for getting it right.
I flew with a guy who did some flying for Magnum PI up in Alaska back in '97, He smacked a ridge in Hawaii sometime later, his widow and a lot of us think that the tail rotor came apart on the machine he was flying. I retired from flying two years ago. I never had any interest in doing tours or flying for movie productions. Guys get pushed to do stupid stuff, like bouncing that skid in the opening scenes of Magnum PI. He told me that he almost lost it too. 40 years in the rearview mirror.
Footage nearly always looks tamer than life, so everything gets juiced for the camera. In regard to aviation, that's trouble.
Or the Twilight Zone film disaster
Smack my bridge up.
early mid 90's in Yukon/NWT McKenzie Mtns, We flew with a pilot that also claimed he flew in Magnum shows ..
You probably were never meant to be a pilot, take up golfing
Such good memories of these old shows like Magnum PI and Rockford Files. Dukes of Hazard, Knight Rider, A-Team, Fall Guy, etc...the list goes on and on. I didn't know about this crash on the show filming. Reminds me of the Twilight Zone movie crash.
Glen Larsen is responsible for my love of both Cylons and KITT's iconic scanner light.
At least you and I have normal times to look back on.
I love the Rockford Files. good show
@@daleburnfart6845 Did you also get that fcked up feeling in about the 4th grade that "something is wrong here"?
That was the first inkling for me that I was being raised in a goddamn insidously vitriolic, yet subtle culture war. (And I was using that actual term before it was ever mentioned in media. Too) I really felt it man.
You're about to see a real war break out here if they don't stop letting in so many men. A full 1/3 of Gen Z men will be incels for life due to the shortage of 30 million women under 40. Major unrest rarely _does not_ break out when it gets this bad. You won't find it on the census either because these extra 30 million+ men are all undocumented.
This shits about to get crazy when all the men here realize they are doomed to be lonely old fogeys at age 25.
TOM SELLECK IS NOT DEAD!
Magnum P.I. was one of my favorite shows as a kid. Hardcastle and McCormick is another favorite.
This is sad because they had the footage and didn't need to be flying so low. So heart breaking.
Yes pilot deserves a decent jail term..
@@fidelcatsro6948 Believe me, he was in hell the rest of his life. I saw it first hand. Remember, in Hollywood you do what you're told and if you don't, they find someone else.
@@ProgNoizesB Excuse me. Find someone else? You've never know true love is you think it can be replaced. AND this was 43 years ago. I'm 77 and not interested in a relationship. I did my life on my own and am proud of it.
@@fincafeliz6402 Some people do what they're told to do, and others with egos go further.
This is clearly a case of the latter. The pilot wouldn't even take any accountability for his actions and blames it on anything else.
Ian McShane can steal the scene whenever he is in it. An absolutely incredible actor.
He is indeed
And, suhmokin' hot!!!
My school teacher from the 80s lived next door to Tom Selleck while the filming of this show was being made she used to collect his mail for him and showed us some photos of her with Tom and the red Ferrari was pretty cool to have known her Mrs K was the coolest teacher I ever had in Australia which is were I had her as a teacher in years 7 to 11
we really dn't care, this isn't you or your supposed teacher
Calm down Mr. Seagal
@@slowery43 we being you and the mouse in your pocket?
@@slowery43I care. Calm down chode
@@slowery43Thank you for caring enough to read and comment you legend.
Happy to have found your channel!
Thanks! Welcome!
It was in 1980 or 1981 when I had the opportunity to fly in a similar Hughes helicopter, I was about 6 or 7. I remember how agile it was and how incredibly fast a pilot could manoeuvre it to into almost ridiculous moves. I'm not sure I would want to try it again nowadays.
When I was in school (mechanical engineering), I distinctly remember one of our professors calling helicopters, "flying fatigue machines." Meaning every part on there was of limited life span (due to the absolute necessity for lightness). In fact just after getting married, in 1994, and on our honeymoon, two helicopters went down around the time we were there. Thiese tours had become very common as Magnum PI"s popularity was high.
Wow we're same aged cats!
@@johnbuiatti366 your professor was correct, but all aircraft are flying fatigue machines and that is why every aircraft has a maintenance schedule
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Great channel!
Love these videos!
Thanks so much!
I really appreciate this video essay. I’m a new helicopter pilot (just earned my instructor cert), with the sole intention of becoming a movie film pilot, or aerial cinematography which is the technical term.
Even though I grew up when Magnum PI was still playing on tv, I had no idea this accident occurred. The most fascinating part is that the footage has stayed concealed even after all these years. I wonder if a FOIA is something that would work to retrieve the footage, if it still exists.
I'd rethink your ambition to work in the movie business. It's not all glitz and glamour and you'll be asked to do dangerous things if "they want the shot". Don't forget, Bob's co-workers were also his best friends. They turned on me and the evidence to protect their jobs and be able to work in the future. Hollywood is dead as all the dark secrets are spilling out. You came here as a Spiritual being to have a human experience. Selling your soul to the devil is the wrong way to go.
When I saw this , it was the first time I saw any footage. I was told the actual film of the crash would not be released to "protect me". Yea sure, like they cared about me. No need for a FOIA. I know what happened, as I was there. Seeing the footage means nothing at this point.
It's FAKE! Tom Selleck IS NOT DEAD!
The helicopter pilots in Vietnam did this routinely to get wounded and dead off the battlefield , all while getting shot at! Gotta admit, these pilots must be unique.
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They were unique - they were combat pilots who knowingly risked their lives to potentially safe many others!
Great work . Lots of detail 👍🏼
Much thanks for the comment!
I lived on the big island 1991-93, they grounded all the helicopters in in the tourism industry for the entire state in 92 because of accidents.
Cost cutting and Poor maintenance perhaps
Thought I’d bite and see what your show is about. Well done great narration. Subscribed thumbs up
Thanks very much for the comment and the subscription!
The character Thomas Magnum was a SEAL . Although a Special Operations Operative that in no way makes him part of Special Forces 2:10 nor a Soldier since those two very specific terms are part of the Army.
SEALs are Special Operations Sailors. I know that may be hard to comprehend, but there are Special Operations personnel in all branches of service including Special Forces, Soldiers (Green Beret), Pararescue, Airmen (PJs) Recon Force Marines. Of course that includes Sea Air Land (SEAL) Sailors from the Navy as well as a myriad of other Special Operations personnel from all branches of the service, possibly with the exception of Space Force at the moment. Yes, USCG has Special Operations personnel too.
Thus endith this lesson.
Thanks for clarifying. Much appreciated.
I'll go one step further. Being in Special Operations does not require being a SEAL, SF, Pararescue, etc. I spent two years assigned to SOCCENT (Special Operations Command Central) as a logistics planner. As with any military operation, 90% of it is the logistics tail. The pointy end rightfully gets all the attention and the glory because they are the ones assuming the greatest risk.
Support, Service Support and any auxiliary functions can legitimately consider themselves part of an operators realm of influence. This was part of the distress felt for some personnel being able to wear particular identifying apparel, patches and insignias that were (prior to changes) in doctrine only authorized for those that had actually gone through specific training or conflict hierarchy. In all seriousness though personnel are often attached whether they be of support role or direct combat arms, 11B in and of itself is not a designation for Special Operations but may well be assigned direct interdiction duties alongside Special Operation Actions. The US military is by far the most logistic intensive military around the world. It is not uncommon to acknowledge the use of 10 personnel are in full time employment to provide direct and and indirect support for one front line war fighter. Unlike China, Russia and so many other adversarial nations, they may find it hard to have but 3 personnel in support.
Back in 85 or 86 .. Tom selleck hit me with his Land Over.. I remember the vehicle because I had a 85 Toyota four wheel drive , and that Land Rover stood out..Well waiting in line at in&out burger on Seventh ave and the 60 freeway.
I had no idea at first it was Selleck . He Barely tapped my left knee. I didn’t even feel it.
He kinda freaked out.. I said don’t worry about it I barely felt it. He stopped and talked to me I was shocked it was him .
He had his wife and children with him.. They were on the to Palm Springs.. I think it was a Land Rover.. I remember it had all light brown leather interior. The truck was dark green.. Thirty Seven Years ago.
You have to know how the burger place is and the restrooms were you have to cross in front of the cars in walk up .. And Tom drove through.
I swear this really happened to me..
I let go he Nicked me..
Wow🤔
Helicopters are so dangerous. I used to work in choppers and all the time, all we think is:"safety, safety, safety!" Luckily, my organisation got it and put pilots in charge of safety. Admittedly, they let me (unqualified) fly the chopper home on my last day. All the guys were x army and good sports.
I just saw this episode! O_o
This is as fascinating as it is tragic.
Sanders is a hero.
Ian did deserve an Emmy
Wow some of those video shots of the Helo skimming the water had less than two feet over the waves at high speed, totally reckless disregard for their lives, the passengers and the equipment. It's no wonder the pilot crashed the copter with a rouge wave hitting the skid. Thanks for sharing. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
Thank you for this behind the scenes look at what occurred. You caught me by surprise when you picked Death & Taxes as one of the best episodes, as it is my favorite. Many other people that I’ve spoken to don’t see it that way at all.
It’s those teeth, man. Gave me nightmares as a kid lol! Glad you liked the video.
It's been a while but as I remember Death and Taxes even Higgins showed sympathy for Magnum at the start.
@@tvsbesteps TOM SELLECK IS NOT DEAD WTFFF!
Roger E Mosely has to take some blame for the poor guy dying.
If he hadn't complained about the white helicopter pilot trying to look like his character they wouldn't have had to employ the other guy.
I’m sure he kept his mouth shut after that, cause the very white Steve Kux played his stunt double for the reminder of the series, and his skills as a pilot were absolutely flawless. He was also a great long line pilot also, until a broken control linkage in one of the sister ships he was flying, nearly killed him in Oahu.
❤great video never knew this happened. And you got a new sub my brothet.👍😎
Thanks for the sub!
A great detailed report !
Much thanks. I enjoyed doing it! Thanks for watching…
The clips of the helicopter without the emergency floats is a 500C not a D. The D has a 5-bladed main rotor and a T-tail. The C has a 4-blade main rotor and a diagonal tail.
Thanks for the info! Definitely not a helicopter guy. Lol.
@@tvsbestepsit’s a pretty minor thing that only pilots or enthusiasts would notice. I’ve flown both… love the 500, extremely fun and agile helicopter to fly.
@@MeppyManwhich has better handling?
@nocalsteve
Hang on… of course you are right about the differences between the 500C & 500D.
But…. You have to keep in mind that over the course of Magnum P. I.’s eight seasons that there were actually four different Hughes MD500’s that depicted T. C.’s “Chopper”. There were three 500D’s & one peel painted 500C.
The 500C was only temporarily peel painted in the orange, yellow & brown diagonal D4 bands to impersonate T. C.’s “Chopper” long enough to finish filming “Skin Deep” & it also appeared a couples of episodes later, in “The Ugliest Dog in Hawaii” with some of its peel paint, peeling off. They even gave that 500C the fake N58243 registration number to initially cover up the crash.
After that the 500C only appeared as stock footage & wasn’t used for primary filming once N1095A was found as the new replacement “Chopper”. Once those two episodes & the necessary stock footage of the 500C was filmed, it’s peel paint was washed off & it went back to its normal paint job underneath.
In addition to N58243 the original “Chopper” that tragically crashed there were two other Hughes 500D (369D) model helicopters that depicted T. C.’s “Chopper”.
N1095A from S1 through the end of S6 & it did not have the emergency pop out floats.
Then Jetcopters Inc couldn’t negotiate a contract with Universal Studios & N1095A went away after S6.
A white 500D (369D) N4943T was painted as a replica of T. C.’s “Chopper” to complete S7 & S8. N4943T also did not have the emergency pop out floats.
Keep in mind that stock footage of N58243, the unknown 500C, N1095A & N4943T were used throughout the series.
Only the original Hughes 500D (369D) was equipped with the pop out floats & it tragically crashed during the filming of the 6th episode.
Big Magnum fan but never heard the story; chilling. I like the 'new' Magnum but still hold top billing to the original.
Pilot negligence it's clear as daylight
R.I.P...TC............................
I'm no longer confused thank you for your great show🙂
Airwolf, which was technically a magnum P. I. Spin-off and was created by Don Bellesario also had a helicopter crash. Unfortunately it ended up being fatal, killing stuntman Reid Rhondell.
Yes I hope to cover that story soon.
The Helicopter(Airwolf) crashed here in Germany after his Film role 😔
Ok, how is Airwolf "technically" a Magnum spin-off?
They have nothing in common. Helicopters? Thats the main theme of Airwolf but only an occasionally used means of transportation in Magnum. The Ferrari is more often on camera than the chopper...
@@Ganiscol Cheers just about to ask that question. Cant see how its possibly true.
Yes not really a spin off, but more like a sister show. Don Bellisario produced both and both shows shared some crew and pilots.
The man playing the cop whom Stringfellow takes up over Universal Studios in the Airwolf pilot is the same man who was piloting the second copter in this story; the man who called the mayday.
Something smells funny if the camera chopper was saying to wrap it up for the day why would the pilot decide on his own to do more takes. Feels to me like someone ordered or requested a redo. The fact that they didn't want the star or even the stunt double for a stunt (isn't that what stuntmen do) really seems strange. My guess is the supposed flameout was a idea of the film studio for a couple reasons. To not get the pilot in trouble or as much for an error and because he was told to do that risky stunt flying too low. Only a couple years later Landis would cause multiple deaths by having a pilot flying too low and getting downed by special effects. Actually still shouting lower as it was struck already being far too low for safety. This feels like a similar situation a pilot pressured into risk by the producers.
That’s ridiculous. Smelling, feeling, and guessing ends you up in left field…
I agree. Something is fishy. I trust the account of the pilot.
@@ReeferMadman if you believe the pilot’s “engine out” story, you have no understanding of aviation and are ignoring the NTSB findings and the very rare suspension by the FAA.
You are correct. I am Robert's widow and I put a comment under this video to set the record straight
@@ReeferMadmanoh yeah, trust a known liar who gave some bs engine failure story? I’ve flown helis for over 20 years, and practically every variant of the MD500, and there’s absolutely no mistaking an autorotation from CFIT, especially since it was all caught on film? the NTSB would’ve instantly caught a engine failure, but they didn’t.
Vietnam scout helicopter pilots were used ot flying very low (5'). So flying low would have been normal for an ex army Hughes Cayuse pilot. So the possibility that the pilot did not take into account that waves are often not consistent and will have some, sometimes much, higher than the others, is a likely guess.
Next to the copter in Capricorn 1 this was a big influence on flying for many I bet.
The waves were unusually high that day. Over 22 feet.
Ian McShane can steal the scene whenever he is in it.
An early example of identity politics gone wrong. They hired a pilot because of the color of his skin and not his qualifications. Then that pilots poor flying skills and questionable judgement wind up killing someone!
There was nothing inadequate about his flying skills dumfk
Those were the qualifications, you missed the whole point .
Black pilot
@@sg-yq8pm The FAA would disagree with you, he was reckless and got a man killed due to his poor flying skills and decision making.
@@Bellthorianhe was doing what he was paid to do. It is the producers who came up with the stunts.
If he was thrown from the chopper how did some
of his shredded clothes stay in the cockpit? I am sure he must have been belted in his seat. The NTSB could have determined if the engine flamed out. What does the NTSB report state? Some things not covered very well. Very sad this young man lost his life. I am glad the production company gave his widow some monetary compensation. Thanks for sharing this.
The wreckage was certainly recovered and the engine examined. Was there a flame out or not? Someone using that as an excuse for reckless flying?
There was no flame-out. There was video of the crash and they knew exactly how it happened. Dangerous flying resulting in a death, followed first by lies and then by an out-of-court settlement.
I'd never get into those helicopters in Hawaii. I lived out there for several years and read the newspapers every day. Wasn't always on the TV news but every other month or so there was an article about one going down crashing or making an emergency landing. Happens all the time. The winds coming off the ocean and into those mountains is too unpredictable.
_"A pair of boots tied at the laces."_ Uhhhhh. What?
How can we get that footage released i wonder.
Love that White Bat audio track!
Yeah his stuff rocks.
I loved the Rockford Files just as I loved Magnum.
Helicopters are unforgiving and not toys. They will quickly send you to your maker
Allahu Akbar!
Everyone is going there someday!
The theme song was playing in my head with the video of the helicopter flying, it's was my favourite show when I was 8. Cool paint job on the helicopters too.
The cool theme song wasn't until episode 10 or so
Ian McShane! 2:20 Kewl dude. Also the hotel manager in the John Wick movies and the RAF flight Sargeant that "went for a swim" in the 1969 movie 'Battle of Britain'.
Don't forget the movie "If it's Tuesday, it must be Belgium" and the TV series "Lovejoy".
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !"
Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ."
Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!"
Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..."
Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!"
Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky."
Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction."
Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"
Fawlty Towers is a classic to be sure.
@@tvsbesteps HE MEANS NO ARM !
Kind of reminds of me of the Twilight movie incident where Victor Morrow and 2 children were killed by a helicopter during filming of a scene.
They had another helicopter crash too, later on.
I remember the episode: "Did You See the Sunrise?" That was next-level stuff.
The pilot, just on the press quotes, was a liar. He was also reckless, unprofessional, and unqualified for those flying conditions. The fact that appropriately skilled pilots were dismissed simply because their skin tone offended the actor is infuriating, irresponsible, and tragic.
There is nothing wrong with wigs hats mustaches and makeup for long shots!
Read my comment below the video. You're right. I'm Robert's widow
That's what I was thinking. A diversity hire with deadly consequences.
Don't forget to turn your volume back down when you move on to the next video.
Thanks for the feedback! I’m still getting the hang of it.
Some of the footage used in this video is of a Bell helicopter, and was from the crash aftermath of Air Florida Flight 90 in the Potomac River at DC.
Yes, used for illustration purposes.
I thought something was familiar with that. My memory thought it was a short clip from the helicopter that tried to tow a boat but upended and crashed in the water.
@@57Jimmy I remember that clip. It was the filming of a Mexican TV show.
Quite right. It was a Bell LongRanger of the U.S. Parks Police.
I’m going to call BS on a flameout. They don’t lose power that rapidly.
Even my cat says Pilot negligence
Yeah, the pilot obviously lied on the the flameout causing the crash however, you’re wrong about them not losing power rapidly if they quit. Turbine engines don’t sputter and stall until they eventually lose power, like you see in the movies. When they fail, it is sudden and instant, which is why you only have a few seconds to act accordingly before you’re rotor rpm decays into catastrophe.
You're right. There was no flame out. Just a handy excuse for the studio and pilot that didn't work.
Roger Mosley was actually a helicopter pilot also, but they didn't use him to pilot any helicopters in the show, in case something like this happened, they didn't want to lose a star. Stuntman, or crew members, fine, just not a star.
Pilot flies dangerously near the water, then lies after causing the death of his passenger. It's said he was weighed down by the guilt. I sure hope so.
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Sad sad story.
Thats not the only chopper they crashed.
What else happened?
@@VictoryAviationhappened after the series wrapped up in 88, in which the stunt pilot of the series Steve Kux was doing a long line job in Oahu, and had a runaway trim failure only 3ft off the ground and nearly died. a fellow Vietnam Vet basically saved him by lifting the 1500lb aircraft above water until rescuers could pulled his unconscious body out. there’s a video of it kicking around, and it’s pretty nuts how quickly it went south.
@@crazyralph6386 Welll… damn 😨
Nerd alert: it’s a Hughes Model 369D, or Hughes 500D, or an MD500 - not all three! 😂 Great video, thanks for sharing.
Hughes called them ALL Model Number 369.
The Army gave Hughes’ Model # 369 the designation of the OH-6 Cayuse.
The civilian market calls them the Hughes 500.
In 1984, McDonnell Douglas bought Hughes Helicopters.
So, it’s not necessarily incorrect to refer to them as a Hughes 500 or an MD500. It technically was designed by Hughes…
But anyway they are ALL technically Model number 369.
I'm glad I was alive when this originally aired I didn't know this
Did that engine flameout happen because of ocean spray? Anyways, reckless flying. What did the NTSB accident investigation find out?
Sole surviver of a 500 crash.. 1/4.. muscle strains was all i had.. sound asleep. There but by the grace of god..
Well I’m just glad you’re okay. Thanks for sharing.
magnum is one of my favourite showe, i had know idea about this crash
Vic Morrow was on Season two and he got killed in a helicopter crash too on the set of the Twilight Zone movie
It wasn't a "crash" that killed vic.. it was a helicopter blade 🫢
l admit l watched the show and loved it but after hearing recently about how he has lured so many elderly people into 2nd mortgages they cant afford and how so many families disrupted estates and lost the ability to pass homes down the kids its upsetting. That add campaign has been going on for years now and he's making fortune and the costs to all those retired fans of his works who are being duped out of their homes is horrendous.
Who? Tom Selleck did that?
Know what you're signing.
Beautiful chopper
5hey right about those old energy signatures
I've heard too many stories of movie producer's putting shots before people and i absolutely believe the widows story it's a Damn shame movie companies and any companies putting human life at stake for there profits and trying to chisel the families out of money for the lose or damage to their loved ones. That's the big crime here and they get away with it most of the time.
That footage of the person on the skid was from an aircraft crash in Canada, you can see the ice on the water
Actually the crash was in DC in 1984. But I used the footage for illustrative purposes.
Potomac River in Washington D.C.
That's sad I didn't know how they make the shows
The rule is never admit liability when you settle.
I was expecting to see Lenny Skutnik jump into the water with the footage shown.
If T.C. says there's no tailwind,
there's no tailwind.
Both of the helicopters were involved in fatal crashes.
The second crash in 1988 didn’t result in a fatality, thankfully.
@@tvsbestepsyep, that was the infamous video of that upturned 500 with the Pilot drowning, but was saved by his fellow Nam pal “Tiny”, who actually lifted the 1500lb ship and saved him!
1. Pilot tried to skate blame by claiming engine failure. 2. Marines couldn't search at night?
On a scene of the movie Twilight Zone a helicopter killed 2 extras as it crushed them. Pushing set pace blamed Spielberg I think.
Vic Morrow - who was in Season 2 of Magnum PI
Incredible that they crashed two helicopters and killed someone in filming this short run show!
2? I tot only 1 crashed
The second crash, in 1988, occurred a few weeks after the final episode of Magnum had wrapped production.
Diversity hiring has no place in aviation. Hire the best person for the job, not what color they are.
The pilot was an idiot for flying that close, especially when the skids already touched water earlier during the shoot! I’m surprised nobody from the second helicopter didn’t radio the clown, and remind him he’s driving Hughes 500, not a frigging Donzi? But hey, at least they didn’t have to use Blackface I guess? Ugh.
helicopters are already expending most of it's energy to beat the snot out of the air. Then add aerobatics and crazy g-forces and it spells disaster sometimes.
Sander's should have gotten prison time!
Stupid argument of pilot Sanders. Fly too low on any aircraft is dangerous not only because the near of the ground and posible colission, it´s dangerous because of an engine fail. To gain speed without engine power, it needs altitude to dive nose down and speed up. Flying low was not the main crash cause, it was a sleeve of the chain of causes of the accident.
I think the worst helicopter crash was on, The Twilight Zone. Very sad.
Certainly when there are children involved it is especially tragic.
The helos weren’t MD500D as McDonalld Douglas hadn’t purchased/taken over Hughes aircraft company at the time.
The Helos were just plain Hughes 500 D choppers.
Thanks for clarifying.
Yup, I was trying to figure out what he was doing by saying that the helo is a Hughes MD 500D. I guess an honest mistake by somebody that is not an aviation enthusiast. I have also seen a Hughes 500C used in the filming of the series.
Those were turbine or piston engines?
Technically they’re the Hughes 369D
I was on the island the day that happened
those who watch the series often, know that the pilots flew with very reckless over the land
Very
Diversity strikes again.
People in Vancouver know those colours
RIP TC xxx
Sad.
Is flame out is most likely a lie.
You say that the divers found the helicopter that fans were familiar with, but that guy says in Aloha Magnum that he was afraid the accident would cause the show to stop “before it even premiered”. Which is it?
I meant fans today are familiar with it. There would have been no fans at the time.
@@tvsbesteps My point exactly, and if this helicopter was only used for a few episodes then it’s just the design that viewers were familiar with since it would’ve been mostly a different one used on the show.
My wife and I just took Paradise helicopter doors off trip around Oahu in Feb 2024 and really enjoyed it. Sad to watch this after our tour as Paradise is listed as the company in the crash documentary 😞
@andybroer651
No, Andy. That is incorrect sir.
The Paradise (K & S) Helicopters that you flew with was not even created until 1997 & is also called K & S Helicopters.
It was a totally different company in 1980 with the name “Paradise Helicopter INC.” who owned N58243 the Hughes 500D (369D) that crashed.
The NTSB Report says that the 500D in Bob Sander’s crash that claimed the life of 34 year old Robert Sanders was owned by Paradise Helicopters INC.
The Paradise Helicopters that you flew with has two nice replicas of the Magnum P. I. Helicopter, but since it wasn’t created until 1997, it had nothing to do with the Magnum P. I. television series from the 1980’s. .
@@OneHoof Thanks for that info!
@@andybroer651 Yes sir. You are welcome.
I just wanted to clarify that the “Paradise Helicopters INC.” associated with the Magnum P. I. helicopter crash (N58243) was not affiliated nor associated in any way with the modern Paradise (K & S) Helicopters (cerated in 1997) that you & your wife flew with.
In a Hawaiian 🌺 paradise, I guess paradise is just a popular name.
Mahalo!
Wow, that’s a really sad situation that, sounds like, shouldn’t have happened to begin with. 👎🏼
wow sounds like you post blatantly obvious things
@@slowery43 and it sounds you post comments when you could just keep on scrolling, especially considering there are all kinds of other comments stating similarly blatant obvious things, in this thread alone.
Pilot at fault clearly . Get a professional next time , even if it means using blackface . Better than people dying .
*RIP Bob*
33. whoa bob was sure unlucky
He is fit for Han solo in starwars days
paul mantz bought it flying too low after they already had a good take. Just one more the director said.
satnan wanted that blood sacrifice for the success of the show
The movie, FM. in the beginning of the movie, Tom Selleck is the pizza delivery boy.
They had it coming.
Diverse and politically correct ‘engine failure’.