As someone who is suddenly facing the potential of being on the A team for college frisbee, these videos are amazing. I got a lot of watching and training to do, but I found the drive. Still have to get the drive to layout
how did it go if I may ask? I'm still fairly new to ultimate but I really want to learn how to lay out, especially cause I've got a big club competition coming soon and I'm super excited but I need to up my game!
Fun video, thanks! Also... Harvest :) Anyway, I think it's worthwhile mentioning the segment on initially learning to land on your stomach (around 3:00) while using your arms and hands to "catch" your transition should be specific to that portion only. Catching yourself with your arms in that manner on a regular layout is recipe for shoulder or wrist injuries. On a similar note (around 6:20), I think people really should focus more on making an effort to land on their front, even if it's a single arm reach (it'd be more easily achievable if they get used to superman-ing their layout to start). It only takes a slightly wrong angle upon landing to tweak your shoulder if one starts to rotate their body (i.e. not rotating enough). This becomes doubly crucial if you have someone else also making a bid who can add just enough force to your body to cause injury. It seems you may have developed a natural tendency to land on the meatier side of the anterior part of the shoulder/back but may not come so naturally to others. Generally speaking, the area between the chest down to the quads should take the brunt of the impact in order to protect from arm injuries. Aside from catching, the arms are tools for balance with minimal load-bearing along the way. Keeping the body as square as possible throughout the progression would be safest approach to minimizing injury along the way. Open to hearing your thoughts on this!
Ya Harvest!! Great points dude! For sure if people can land squarer that's ideal. I've probably unintentionally taught a slightly more advanced way to lay out (and catch with one hand to get every last inch of reach) and it would be great for people to be laying out squarer and catching with two hands. Not gonna lie, many of my more intense layouts have actually been two hand catches esp if it's raining or there's a lot of speed on the pass.
i thought people would look at grown men rolling in the mud weird but then i saw a guy with a full weight bar doing exercise at the basketball hoops in a park okay
I just joined a beginner league and attempted to layout for, not one, but TWO DISCS! For both, I ended up putting all the impact to my knees. So much adrenaline and feeling good, aftermath however... I'm in so much pain should've watched this before
That's interesting that you can lay out in the park but not in a game. It sounds like you've figured out how to do it, but is it that there are more people watching you in a game (and so more performance pressure)? If that's the issue, I'd suggest practicing layouts with your team present (before the game, and after).
I've had bad experiences smashing my balls when I lay out. Now I instinctively protect my balls by having my knee/thigh be the first point of contact. But I think this can also have bad side effects. Have you ever heard of people wearing cups in ultimate? I've often wondered if it would help my layout technique.
You're right about the bad side effects of knee-on-ground as the first point of contact. Years ago I laid out on really soft ground and my knee plugged into the mud - which you would think would have been fine but it was bad for months after that. I try to absorb most of the impact with my chest and stomach now. As for wearing a cup - go for it. Or at least maybe wear one until you can break your habit of nutting yourself or putting your knee down first! I also know guys who wear compression tights when they play. Maybe those would keep the goods in place a bit better, and hopefully out of harms way.
Yes, it usually hurts a bit. Less so on wet ground, and way more on dry surfaces. Try your first layouts at the beach in shallow water, or on a real grass field in spring when the ground is wet and soft. Eventually your technique will improve and your layouts will hurt less. The glory is well worth the pain!
The faster you're moving the more you will slide and the less it will hurt. Sliding takes away a lot of the direct impact force. And running at high speeds you're making quick decisions so it becomes impulse and you get used to it.
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It's a mental battle of getting the disk vs getting slightly hurt
Does it hurt a lot? Cause I want to learn it
@@Velixity. Not if you do it correctly. Might get scratches on your arms and legs from scraping the ground.
As someone who is suddenly facing the potential of being on the A team for college frisbee, these videos are amazing. I got a lot of watching and training to do, but I found the drive. Still have to get the drive to layout
You'll get there sooner than you think!
how did it go if I may ask? I'm still fairly new to ultimate but I really want to learn how to lay out, especially cause I've got a big club competition coming soon and I'm super excited but I need to up my game!
This applies with all sports really. Same fundamentals no matter what your diving for. Deserves a like.👍🏻
Fun video, thanks! Also... Harvest :)
Anyway, I think it's worthwhile mentioning the segment on initially learning to land on your stomach (around 3:00) while using your arms and hands to "catch" your transition should be specific to that portion only. Catching yourself with your arms in that manner on a regular layout is recipe for shoulder or wrist injuries.
On a similar note (around 6:20), I think people really should focus more on making an effort to land on their front, even if it's a single arm reach (it'd be more easily achievable if they get used to superman-ing their layout to start). It only takes a slightly wrong angle upon landing to tweak your shoulder if one starts to rotate their body (i.e. not rotating enough). This becomes doubly crucial if you have someone else also making a bid who can add just enough force to your body to cause injury. It seems you may have developed a natural tendency to land on the meatier side of the anterior part of the shoulder/back but may not come so naturally to others.
Generally speaking, the area between the chest down to the quads should take the brunt of the impact in order to protect from arm injuries. Aside from catching, the arms are tools for balance with minimal load-bearing along the way. Keeping the body as square as possible throughout the progression would be safest approach to minimizing injury along the way.
Open to hearing your thoughts on this!
Ya Harvest!! Great points dude! For sure if people can land squarer that's ideal. I've probably unintentionally taught a slightly more advanced way to lay out (and catch with one hand to get every last inch of reach) and it would be great for people to be laying out squarer and catching with two hands. Not gonna lie, many of my more intense layouts have actually been two hand catches esp if it's raining or there's a lot of speed on the pass.
i thought people would look at grown men rolling in the mud weird but then i saw a guy with a full weight bar doing exercise at the basketball hoops in a park okay
I just joined a beginner league and attempted to layout for, not one, but TWO DISCS! For both, I ended up putting all the impact to my knees. So much adrenaline and feeling good, aftermath however... I'm in so much pain should've watched this before
How do u mentally over come laying out. I can do it in a park, but as soon as it comes to a game i just cant.
That's interesting that you can lay out in the park but not in a game. It sounds like you've figured out how to do it, but is it that there are more people watching you in a game (and so more performance pressure)? If that's the issue, I'd suggest practicing layouts with your team present (before the game, and after).
I've had bad experiences smashing my balls when I lay out. Now I instinctively protect my balls by having my knee/thigh be the first point of contact. But I think this can also have bad side effects. Have you ever heard of people wearing cups in ultimate? I've often wondered if it would help my layout technique.
You're right about the bad side effects of knee-on-ground as the first point of contact. Years ago I laid out on really soft ground and my knee plugged into the mud - which you would think would have been fine but it was bad for months after that. I try to absorb most of the impact with my chest and stomach now. As for wearing a cup - go for it. Or at least maybe wear one until you can break your habit of nutting yourself or putting your knee down first! I also know guys who wear compression tights when they play. Maybe those would keep the goods in place a bit better, and hopefully out of harms way.
lol I need a friend like this, very helpful video though
great!!
Is it normal that when you layout it hurts?
Yes, it usually hurts a bit. Less so on wet ground, and way more on dry surfaces. Try your first layouts at the beach in shallow water, or on a real grass field in spring when the ground is wet and soft. Eventually your technique will improve and your layouts will hurt less. The glory is well worth the pain!
Lol, always.
The faster you're moving the more you will slide and the less it will hurt. Sliding takes away a lot of the direct impact force. And running at high speeds you're making quick decisions so it becomes impulse and you get used to it.
Josh - 2267 But then there’s the scrapes you get from sliding, which is really the main thing that’ll hurt you in the first place
The slide aspect fails to discharge the energy of the fall in the same way a roll or break-fall does. I don't fancy doing those at 190 pounds lol
cool