The Ray Dalio All Weather Portfolio

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  • @rob_berger
    @rob_berger  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ray Dalio All Weather Portfolio article: robberger.com/ray-dalio-all-weather-portfolio/

  • @jfigarr
    @jfigarr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Two years later and still, in my opinion, the best “All Weather Portfolio” review I have seen. “Tats” email certainly “set the table”, but Rob’s review was the most thorough I have watched. I appreciated the Portfolio Visualizer “tutorial” and going the extra mile on the “leveraged AWP” comparison.

  • @EmptyPocketsCarl
    @EmptyPocketsCarl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I realize this video is 3 years old, but wow it's one of the most useful I've come across. Back when Tony Robbins Money came out, I obsessed over it and followed that strategy. Today, as I am entering my 'maybe I can retire' window and assessing things, I've been beating myself up for how much I left on the table following all weather. But until watching this, I never really truly understood the 'why'. Thank you!!

  • @robertjones9725
    @robertjones9725 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This video was near prophetic! Rob you're making a wonderful contribution by sharing your wisdom.

  • @jec1ny
    @jec1ny ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Actually, it was the late Harry Browne who pioneered the idea of four potential economic conditions. He also came up with a portfolio that he labeled the Permanent Portfolio for investors who wanted a low a low-risk moderate return setup. Basically he advocated for a 4 x 25% portfolio composed of long-term treasuries, stock (indexed), gold and cash with rebalancing bands set at 15%and 35% for any of the assets. And the last time I back tested this going back to 1975, it has delivered inflation adjusted returns of around 4-6% with remarkably low volatility.

  • @rodkazim
    @rodkazim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wow thank you Sir. For giving us your experience for free. I just subscribed a week ago but I have been watching a lot. You are a genius. I'm listening your book in Audible, you have lots of knowledge. I'm still waiting for another book 😊.

  • @aarontamaddon9417
    @aarontamaddon9417 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video

  • @DieselWeazel
    @DieselWeazel ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate to say it but this is some advanced stuff. I’ll have to come back and break this down to further understand.

  • @acrobizer1238
    @acrobizer1238 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Robb. I have a Sitting Bull approach and avoid fees at all costs; 85% FZROX 15% FZILX

  • @d.s.5807
    @d.s.5807 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video! I can't help but to think how this way of investing could work with just a couple of tweaks or even just adding a Covered Call strategy for income possibly even selling Put options for income when volatility is declining. Fascinating ideas are floating around my mind after watching this and all with less risk!

  • @cesarpenailillo6627
    @cesarpenailillo6627 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great videos

  • @LoneStar70
    @LoneStar70 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just recently became aware of the AW Portfolio and this video. Robb nailed it on the bond risk 3 years ago, so market entry timing can matter when setting up a portfolio especially when assets become correlated. Question would be does the historic high valuation for equities at this moment present a similar risk?

  • @chickenon9106
    @chickenon9106 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dalio recently said not to own bonds. So what would replace bonds in the all weather portfolio? I’m thinking of using this portfolio to invest my emergency fund.

    • @rob_berger
      @rob_berger  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's a good question, and I've reached out to him for an answer. So far, no response.

  • @jeffb.2469
    @jeffb.2469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    VWENX: 45%
    VWIAX: 45%
    VBIAX: 10%
    Retirement in 3-4 years, so I'm looking for less risk & more security.

  • @ld4974
    @ld4974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    From November 07 to February 09 the S&P 500 fell by 50%. That's real money folks.

  • @Tothetoptrader21
    @Tothetoptrader21 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rob what do you think about switching the allocation of gold and commodities to 20% each and bonds to 15%? I think going forward commodities and gold are severely undervalues to equities, and would return more than that large allocation of bonds.

  • @subratamitra9379
    @subratamitra9379 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    looks like AW Port was least correlated to the market, so the best performer?

  • @benjicorcho1
    @benjicorcho1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video!

  • @johnbeeck2540
    @johnbeeck2540 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rob, could we get an update on this portfolio strategy? Curious as to this past outlier year of both bonds and equities falling in synch... thanks for your great information!

  • @edpedd2167
    @edpedd2167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rob - enjoy your videos and very informative. Keep up the good work.

  • @JoeyWu-j9w
    @JoeyWu-j9w 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Rob, I'm a new invester, do you suggest me to stick with 2X profolio?

  • @Antonio-fe7kn
    @Antonio-fe7kn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it possible to create a weather portfolio without bonds? Or do you know an asset to substitute the bonds?

  • @robinspanier7017
    @robinspanier7017 ปีที่แล้ว

    for backteting you can do -100 for cash if you wanna double everything.

  • @Zues64
    @Zues64 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another good video Rob, thx. WRT to the leveraged portfolio, the expense fees are too high for me. I like my low-cost vanguard index funds!

  • @phillipellingson8556
    @phillipellingson8556 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doesn't Vanguard have minimums to buy? Does Fidelity have similar funds?

    • @SKITTLELA
      @SKITTLELA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vanguard only has minimums for index funds ($3,000.) You can buy ETFs at whatever the market price is, though. Basically the same thing--identical funds. Expens ratios on ETFs even tend to be a bit cheaper.

  • @70qq
    @70qq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks

  • @brianhenry1728
    @brianhenry1728 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rob - love the portfolio reviews! I bet someone has already asked, but if not, will you review Paul Merriman's Ultimate Buy & Hold portfolios?

    • @rob_berger
      @rob_berger  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes! Paul is a good friend of mine and it's on my list.

  • @chessdad182
    @chessdad182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm a big fan of M1 Finance, Portfolio Visualizer and the All Weather Portfolio. I agree with your finding how long term bonds are really a drag on the All Weather Portfolio in this time period. I think instead of a static percentage allocation to long term treasuries, the All Weather needs to be more flexible and adjust the percentage depending on interest rates. I did have a significant amount of money in the All Weather, but decided to ride the wild pony last year to large returns in the stock market. I still keep a small percentage in All Weather in M1 Finance. I like it because if I see dark clouds ahead, it is easy to adjust All Weather to a higher percentage and rebalance. Enjoyed your 2x analysis. I never thought of that option.

    • @theWebWizrd
      @theWebWizrd ปีที่แล้ว

      Your comment showcases what the All Weather portfolio is explicitly constructed to fight *against*; the core idea of the portfolio is that we cannot predict the future, so we prepare for all four possible outcomes (being a matrix of higher/lower growth than we think, higher/lower inflation than we think). Once you start changing it with your own bets on how the future will be, you aren't investing using that philosophy, you are doing a fundamentally different kind of investment (a directional bet).

  • @motothedog1710
    @motothedog1710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video summarizing Dalio's All Weather Portfolio! Good point warning about holding large amounts of Treasuries in a portfolio in this interest rate environment!
    What do you think about replacing those with long term and Intermediate Treasury funds with TIPS? It gives you the same low Std Deviation qualities without the risk of rising interest rates?
    Based on the Four Quadrant chart, it seems like using TIPS is more aligned with Dalio’s portfolio strategy than using Treasuries, to smooth out returns.
    Thank you for such a great video.

    • @rob_berger
      @rob_berger  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think TIPS have a place in a diversified portfolio. That said, I'm not sure they fit into Ray Dalio's portfolio because they behave very differently than the long bonds. I wish Dalio would comment publicly on this issue, but so far all I hear him say is that cash is trash and so are bonds.

  • @jensallis2
    @jensallis2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Rob - thanks for the video, and your offer.
    Invested assets:
    #1-3 tax-deferred and traditional.
    #4-12 in a self-managed taxed brokerage account.
    1. TRRJX (IRA) - target date 2035: 11%
    2. FSKAX (roll-over IRA) - large growth index: 49%
    3. FBGRX (roll-over IRA) - large growth blue chip: 6%
    4. FSPGX - large growth index:7%
    5. IWF - large growth: 3%
    6. EGFIX - large growth: 2%
    7. VYM - large value: 7%
    8. IWR - mid-blend: 1%
    9. PXSGX - small growth index: .05%
    10. FSPSX - Int Dev mid-large blend: 2%
    11. MWTIX - bond fund: 5%
    12. VWALX - bond fund: 5%

    • @Random-yq1wu
      @Random-yq1wu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Messy, rollover & combine accounts.

    • @jensallis2
      @jensallis2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Random-yq1wu Rob - is that you?

    • @Random-yq1wu
      @Random-yq1wu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jensallis2 No, just random poster:)

    • @jensallis2
      @jensallis2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok thanks

  • @3rdwhirledbeau
    @3rdwhirledbeau 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OK- tear up my portfolio please:
    25% US Large Cap,
    20% US Small Cap
    10% US Micro Cap
    5% International small-cap Ex-US,
    40% Long Term bonds.
    I'm scoring a Sharpe ratio of .88, a Sortino of 1.33 (I don't understand Sortino ratios), a Standard Deviation of 9.73 with a CAGR of 9.33.
    When I look at portfolio allocations I am always excited when my SD is less than my CAGR. Is that a silly way to think of things? This portfolio is 88% correlated with the market. It seems to capture about 66% of the upside while and about 40% of the downside (judging from the best and worst year calculations against the Vanguard 500 Index Investor). Of course it is also not for the faint of heart... but what do you think???
    I'd like you to talk about this one as a good example of a maximally aggressive tilt on a 60/40.

    • @linkbelt111
      @linkbelt111 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You didn’t mention your age, as that would be a big factor for me if I was looking at it.

    • @Random-yq1wu
      @Random-yq1wu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I honestly think there is no reason to own small cap, micro cap, & international anything.

  • @eugenef.6143
    @eugenef.6143 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Rob. I constructed this 6 funds conservative portfolio for lump sum
    Investing: sptl 20%, schr 20%, spmb 20%, min 15%, vti 12.5%, xlv 12.5. Small drawdown in portfolio visualizer. Please tell your opinion.

    • @jrlvnv508
      @jrlvnv508 ปีที่แล้ว

      It hasn't back tested very well compared to the the 3 fund portfolio. There is a slight decrease in risk but not enough to justify the lack of returns IMHO

  • @henryboldi
    @henryboldi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thought leveraged ETFs shouldn't be used as a long term investment because of the impact of daily leverage resetting. Am I missing something here?

    • @SKITTLELA
      @SKITTLELA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought so too. Although in his video about leveraged ETFs, I think Rob believes it's okay to use in a bear market because it's more likely to rise. The problem is exiting if it's in a taxable account.

  • @ErnestoSanchez13
    @ErnestoSanchez13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Rob. This is my portfolio:
    VFV 60%
    XIU 15%
    VIU 15%
    VEE 5%
    CGL 5%
    These ETFs from TSX
    Cheers

  • @dmoon9037
    @dmoon9037 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    23:40 impressive that you were - at such a young age - deploying savings into such retrospectively great deposit rates - I had basic passbook savings account at that time

  • @louortiz670
    @louortiz670 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr. Berger, what do you think of my retirement portfolio? VWNFX 22%, VEXRX 40%, VEXAX 38%

  • @JWarrenPhilly
    @JWarrenPhilly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if you overlay the Dalio and S&P. When the S&P is above the line of Dalio's, you buy Dalio. When it's the opposite, you buy the S&P. Knowing they both follow the same general path, wouldn't you get the better value.

  • @jaydee5799
    @jaydee5799 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi Rob! New subscriber here - really appreciate you doing this, I've been looking for someone to break down this portfolio in today's environment, given that Bonds are not the greatest thing to hold at the moment. Thanks for the insight.

  • @romanorlov8708
    @romanorlov8708 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    B..but.. In chapter 5.2 of "Master the game" Robbins says that despite skyrocketting interest rates the all weather portfolio back in '70s had only one bad year so that Robbins advises not to listen talking heads that they know what season comes next. What'll you say?

  • @brianchrisrogers
    @brianchrisrogers 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been wondering about this portfolio for a while, thanks for the detailed breakdown!

  • @tatsumakisempyukaku
    @tatsumakisempyukaku 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First and foremost, thanks for taking a look at the Ray Dalio all weather portfolio.
    Some points of reflection
    1: I suppose if one starts their investing young enough, in a tax deferred milieu, that one can be ok with a 7.5% compounded growth...long term. That rate may not be fast enough if you’re starting late. Like me
    : (
    I think though that rate is on the low end. The average I’ve read is around 9.5% long term.
    2: while the s& p 500 grows much more, if we look at the years or periods that it took a nose dive, would you or anyone want to be retiring in that year?
    * the growth is great but if your nest egg gets cut in half when you retire or are soon to retire then it’s kinda disconcerting.
    3: I’ll have to watch this video again and see what you did with that 2x Ray portfolio. That looked cool.
    it was because of the bonds, that are currently (5/21/21) doing poorly, that I made the stocks 35% of the portfolio instead of ray’s 30%
    However, it’s to be expected that all asset classes have a season that they do well in and a season or so that they do poorly in. So, is it safe to say that the current season is not one for bonds? Idk.
    Also, I’ve posted elsewhere on your videos a revised all weather portfolio, where I took that 35% allocated for stocks and cut it roughly in half. Half went to either VOO or VTI, while the other half went to innovative disruptive stocks through ARK
    I’ll come back to edit this with the break down.
    I’m trying to have my cake and eat it too. Lol. Doubtful I’m sure, but I thought that using cathie woods investing strategy would bump returns, while still using bonds, gold, and commodities to balance it. But, I’m new to all this.
    Be back later with that allocation of arkk-arkq-prnt-izrl arkw-arkg and so on

    • @219garry
      @219garry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      EXACTLY. If your portfolio is cut in half like a year before or after you retire you are kinda up shitz creek IMO. I would imagine if someone was extremely lucky they'd be in cash just before they retire and have the market tank. Then they would probably set for life going all in.

  • @bartz4439
    @bartz4439 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this comment is 2-3 years after video published but we are in kind of interesting times in the market
    In your video, back in published time, WORST year for All weather Portfolio was 4% which is great! Yes, limited upside but such sleeping well downside
    2 years later:
    Worst year for All weather - 17.42% and SP500 in same time frame 18.19% but sp500 double CAGR...

  • @JamesPlaysWithCars
    @JamesPlaysWithCars 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow - what a thorough analysis. Thank you Rob!

  • @BeeBombard
    @BeeBombard 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m years old. What portfolio would you recommend for retirement? I just don’t know where to dump all my cash. It’s all confusing

    • @jokerbmwe30
      @jokerbmwe30 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Most people are some years old. It depends on whether those years are 66 or 16 😉

  • @dianaberju6858
    @dianaberju6858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm 61 and plan on retiring at 63. I have 25 percent in VWENX; 35 percent in VTI; 20 percent in VXUS; 10 percent in GLD and 10 percent in ARKK - would love to hear your assessment. Thanks!

  • @Andformerthingshavepassedaway
    @Andformerthingshavepassedaway 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ron I always wonder why you haven't got a C.F.P, I know you don't need the money but since you enjoy it so much.

    • @jrlvnv508
      @jrlvnv508 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same as Dave Ramsey.

  • @rage444
    @rage444 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about a portfolio of 50% SP500, 50% cash? We can also play with the cash, if SP500 goes down 5%, buy in 5% or adjust these numbers to your likings.

  • @mikeabuckner
    @mikeabuckner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks again for video. To me the most interesting point had to do with current bond yields. I see so many articles and portfolios that shrug off yields today compared to the past many decades. I think that is a big issue not considered enough or discussed. Thanks for pointing it out...don’t feel so crazy. If yields were 5+% I think it would be easier to create a great retiree portfolio. Today, not so simple.

    • @jrlvnv508
      @jrlvnv508 ปีที่แล้ว

      Care to update your statement now?

  • @DaystarHiker
    @DaystarHiker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    PRWCX/VBMFX 40/60

  • @Brayness
    @Brayness ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You cannot use leveraged ETFs to mimic leveraged returns of the underlying for any duration longer than one day

  • @Jesusismykin
    @Jesusismykin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know more than you think.

  • @JK-rv9tp
    @JK-rv9tp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video Rob. I've been looking to trying to disaster proof my post-retirement portfolio and TH-cam just popped you up. I'm in Canada and have a self built portfolio that is optimized for an income stream, so it's heavy on Canadian REITs, utilities, financial and utility covered call ETFs etc and mortgage lenders (Mortgage Investment Corporations). Overall my portfolio pays about 6.5 points with a few points in capital appreciation, around 9% overall last 5 years. It took a fair hit last spring, but the cash distributions were unaffected. I'm more concerned now about protecting from a long term bust that eats into the distributions. I have added quite a bit of gold, about 12% so far and I will probably increase that to at least 15%, as the current goings on can only end in disaster. Being an income cash flow guy I have most in a Canadian gold ETF, HGY, that just holds SPDR GLD shares and writes covered calls on 1/3rd, so it captures most of any upside and pays about a 6-7 point distribution monthly from call premiums. Also have Sprott units, which, being allocated gold/silver I consider a safer holding than GLD.

  • @DaveWilsBe
    @DaveWilsBe ปีที่แล้ว

    This year down 13%?

  • @edmundpolicarpio
    @edmundpolicarpio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Professional criticism! Great review!
    Still deciding which to invest into but S&P 500 is a sure fire!

  • @scottkeasler9317
    @scottkeasler9317 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Rob, I really enjoy all your videos but this one hit the mark for my current situation. I'm 64 and retiring later this year. Unfortunately, I've taken the advice of advisors based on a simple risk assessment test. Not a paid advisor but a company offering of talking to someone once a year from our 401K. So my wife and I are now in 60% bonds as we approach retirement. This is obviously not working out as bonds are falling faster than stocks with the current inflation rates climbing and the fed raising interest rates to combat the problem. Now I don't know if moving a larger percentage to stocks is good timing. I hate taking a loss on the bonds but not sure what to do.

  • @somchai9033
    @somchai9033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fun fact, between January 2000 and 2020 both long term treasuries and gold beat the S&P 500.

    • @rob_berger
      @rob_berger  3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      True if you invested a lump sum in 2000. If you dollar cost averaged, say with $250 a month in 401k contributions, the S&P 500 wins by a wide margin. It also wins on a lump sum basis if you don't pick a starting year near the tech bubble implosion.

  • @bellaspugmobile
    @bellaspugmobile 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting that after this video the portfolio had a drawdown of more than 20%. All in all you'd be better off by buying the S&P500.

  • @go2gym
    @go2gym 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2022 blew up everything. Portfolios built to temper volatility did worse than even 2008, as long bonds in 2008 did great. Not 2022. But relatively speaking, these types of portfolios did ok, though a little better than really bad is still bad.

  • @alexvari6166
    @alexvari6166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you Rob for the great content! Here's my portfolio. I'm being charged 0.75% for management fees on this actively managed portfolio, although I'm learning it's way better to go with passive investment using index funds.
    Total value of the portfolio is 70K, I'm 40 and shooting to retire at 55.
    I'd appreciate if you'd analyze my portfolio.
    Thank you
    Symbol % Of Account
    VOO 36.45%
    IEFA 25.85%
    IWR 8.63%
    IEMG 8.25%
    MUB 8.21%
    Cash & Cash Investments 5.69%
    HYG 3.93%
    SCHH 2.98%

    • @alexvari6166
      @alexvari6166 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      To add, this is in a taxable account. Thank you sir!

  • @Wasteoftime10
    @Wasteoftime10 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rob -- just came across your informative videos. Great job. I am searching for a video that I watched about 8 to 10 years ago, and was very similar to the 7 - 12 Portfolio, but was broken down into even smaller segments. It was an older gentlemen in the video, and might not have been a 'professional' but he had data going back years. A large part of the video was what he was withdrawing in retirement. If by any chance, you have seen this video in your research, please let me know. Thanks!

  • @matthewharrigan3568
    @matthewharrigan3568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here's one, 25% each VTI VIOV UPRO TMF

  • @KevenJoslin
    @KevenJoslin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you were to create a portfolio of all 8 ARK ETFs in a pie using M1 Finance what percentage of each fund would they be

  • @EJJ-EvArms
    @EJJ-EvArms 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "This portfolio is a huge risk if inflation....."
    Bingo with 3 years of hindsight

  • @bluetroll2082
    @bluetroll2082 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure this aged well. Concept is right for the times, and should be pos now. But bonds got killed.

  • @rafaelvalerofernande
    @rafaelvalerofernande 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, those are very interesting materials. I was wondering about the role of China in this portfolio. I think some of the thought from Dalio are very in line of change of world order, potential debt crises in EEUU and Europe. So as I imagine Dalio's All weather portfolio would perhaps with more particular present in China and less in debt. Maybe the inclusion of China is happening with the International Stock market etf recommended. With regards debt I guess is always good to have a proportion, however I think Dalio has a number of books just talking about debt and how the are pretty much very affected for the easing of Central Banks, so I think to have global debt is in line, but I wonder if so much. Many thanks

  • @sirfriendzone1228
    @sirfriendzone1228 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    50% RYLD
    35% VOO
    2.5% ARKK
    2.5% ARKF
    2.5% BDN
    2.5% QYLD
    5% AMC

  • @vinayakpatankar2551
    @vinayakpatankar2551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All weather saved my ass in covid crash xD. It really depends upon your risk. If you are just buy and forget type investor s&p500 will be for you. But if you are investor who makes a living from his investment. All weather is for you because in bad times you need cash and don't want to be 50% down xD. Also not everytime the market will recover so fast as it did in covid crash

  • @rjdal8873
    @rjdal8873 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Austrian economists and investors (Schiff, Dalio himself, Rogers, Rule, Kiosaki) are pretty much in consensus that a worldwide global crash in the stock, bond, and real estate bubbles is coming, resulting in an extended much lower standard of living for most Americans. Gold seems the most important sector if they are right.