As an attractive woman, I learned over time that the sheer mental and emotional labor of vetting men to figure out whether they were genuinely interested in ME or only looking to use me as a trophy to increase their own status was simply not worth it. I opted out of ever seeking relationships and stayed off of dating sites. Thus the only relationships I've been in are the ones that came right into my path, and started as solid friendships first. I will never respect a man that lies to women to get them into bed-- EVEN if he were to (snort) "change his ways" after "falling in love" with me. Then you have the ones that prey on attractive, independent women for the sole purpose of ruining our lives. They are also persona non grata in my world. Since men seem to love being predatory especially around very attractive women, I would rather spend the rest of my life alone than with a man that only wants me for my looks. I suspect that's why a lot of beautiful women are single. Men have ruined dating so bad that many of us are just opting out altogether.
In the spirit of hard truths since we are commenting on this video, I looked at your profile and I guarantee you nobody is going after you as a trophy. I would seriously consider what makes you think that and if there's any trauma there you should deal with because it sounds like you are not living a fulfilling life as a result of it. Best of luck.
Sort of. I am Native American (Apache) 6'1" and 220+ lbs with the size of a football linebacker. In the dating world, it has been a positive factor in some cases. But there still are clusters of racism such that white women are scared of a "big Apache". Size doesn't help if the person is racist - it can make them more afraid or uncomfortable at the sight of us. In those cases, I feel like they would be more comfortable if I were 5'6" and thin. So, there's a mix of responses - sometimes positive and some negative.
@@manuelsteele7755 It's the same for Black men. If neither were rich and famous Shaq would have a harder time not just dating but in life in general than Kevin Hart. Than again, most women don't want a man as tall as Shaq. At a certain point you're a freak. I'm not short or tall. I'm just at average height.
@@abhishekchaudhry80 just looked them up the tallest is 6ft- 5’11 and the rest is 5’10 and the two shortest is 5’9 I wouldn’t really call them short especially in Asia
2:01 I don’t think influencers are THAT pretty. They would probably be in that 8 tier that she’s referring to. They’re really basic pretty girls that gets attention and mostly likely show skin/ a bit more provocative. (Sometimes even 1st tier or whatever). Model pretty is it’s own thing in my opinion. They have those wow, unique, harder to obtain features. Atleast for the standards that have been put in this society.
@@CocoFranklin basic pretty girls that show skin do gain a following. Only a few of them are really gorgeous. Most of them are regular pretty girls that fit the beauty standard in some ways and tend to show more skin and body.
Most people have a broad spectrum of what attractive is (no one goona rate Rosanne Barr over Kim Kardashian) and moving countries for validation arguably a bit extreme.
@@tomhiggins6542 I don't expect people to pack their bags and relocate. Beauty standards do vary across the world. Beauty standards differ from one culture to another as well. Black guys are often attracted to women white guys aren't attracted to. Asians tend to prefer women who are very thin. That doesn't appeal to everybody. Blacks and Latinos tend to like a little more meat. What white men like depends more on the region they're from. Often times there are historical reasons for this. A lot boils down to what's being pushed by the media.
@@devonforsure260 exactly and whats considered an ugly personality? You call someone having an ugly personality because they behave in a way you don't want them to behave? Like nobody needs to behave properly or even respect you if "they" don't like you. Now you're acting like you are the chooser like nope I don't like them cause their personality is ugly but they never liked you so it's kind of cope. You're not going to reject a 10 cause she says something ugly like oh black ppl look like monkeys. You still gona smash her even what she says is socially unacceptable lol. No fcking non asian is going to reject a hot model (non asian) even if she is asian and she says negative things about asian men that degrades them saying they are small and physically weak and things to basically degrade them. You as a non asian male is still gona smash this girl , whether she is white, black, hispanic or even asian girl that says this and speaking from experience the non asian guys actually love it when say for example say an asian girl says negative and degrading stuff about asian men like white and black men get off on that saying yeah you want a alpha male don't you? and they are thinking they are the alpha male LOL XD like they didnt reject her cause of her bad personality in fact they feel like now i have to show my alphaness in bed and gets more motivated due to racial competition and positive reinforcements and validation.
I think pretty privilege is probably more pronounced if you’re in a job/social situation where being pretty is important like if you wanna be an influencer or work in fashion but not so much when you’re in stem etc
Yes! When I was a postdoc, I had an undergrad honors student who was stunningly beautiful with long blonde hair, lovely eyes and great fashion sense. She was also brilliant and hardworking, but I was apparently the first person to take her ideas seriously. If she was giving a talk, she’d wear glasses with non-prescription lenses to look more “intellectual,” and people treated her better. I think a lot of people mistakenly assume that women can’t be attractive and smart. I think I usually look good but not as good as this woman, so I had empathy for her.
_It’s real._ And if she is a diagnosed psychopath/sociopath/antisocial disorder, etc- they actually see society from a different lens and can pick up on the nuances that many others can’t because they aren’t as tied to empathy and emotions. If you are legitimately beautiful, the world treats you completely differently. I had it and didn’t realize it until I got depressed and gained weight. The world became 100x easier to navigate once I got back in the gym and dropped the weight. It takes time for people to get beyond the exterior and appreciate ppl for who they are inside. And some won’t ever care to do so if they don’t like what’s on the outside.
Most of the time good looks decline over the years those that depend on their physical attraction must accept that it is a temporal advantage - like an athlete whose prime days are over - an pretty idol singer will eventually have to step aside from the center stage for younger pretty talented idols.
Well, there is also pretty privilege for men. I just recently experienced it. At my haircutter is a good looking man. He is also on the advertisment picture in front of the shop. He messed up my hair. My husband also got a terrible haircut from him. He is a nice guy, but just not good in his job ... i think they keep him just to attract new customers. Anyway, we still go there, but we let our hair cut by another person
Pretty privilege has always been apparent to me, but I have a knack for recognizing patterns of behavior and patterns or trends in society. For me personally though, I don’t put physically attractive people on a pedestal. I value personality, intellect & empathy more. It’s nice though when a woman has a good balance between all 3. Although it’s towards the bottom of my list, being physically attractive does help though.
Right when she started saying how she can use her looks to manipulate people and situations, that's was an immediate red flag. But I guess good on her for being open about her psycopathy
The worst thing is when a handsome or pretty person becomes ugly when they start to talk. It is unbecoming...! Beauty/brawn with confidence (not arrogance) and intelligence can be alluring
When they are nice and have good personalities it can be intoxicating to people though and they can end up getting too much attention which can turn into stalking/harassment/bullying. I think a lot of really goodlooking people develop “bad” personalities as a defense mechanism.
people often don't want to see the attractive person as JUST a person when they show their personality. And if you're a quirky beautiful women, FOREGET IT you're a bitch!
I'd rather be at the top of the low end, proverbial big fish in a small pond rather than the top of the top. And have all the skills and education on the things that will be either useful long-term (technology) and other things that I'm fascinated by/enjoy as opposed to little to no skills & relying on looks. What she said makes a lot of sense to me.
Personality privilege, funny privilege, style privilege, etc… So many traits that attract and bring value to others. It’s natural and obvious, but I guess we have to talk about them.
When u are not good looking many shallow people will despise you, hate you, and treat you poorly. Being ugly can be lonely and for those who cannot adapt to the loneliness -stressful too. Those that like the less attractive will like them for their personality, actions/behavior, or for things they have or control access to. A sociopath manipulates others to create a world order. A psychopath manipulates others to establish a personal lifestyle.
Then a lot of times when you are good looking, people will also despise you, hate you, and treat you poorly. People are dirtbags and you can't put it past someone to be a POS whether they're good looking or ugly.
@@satoril928 Nastiness is a bad habit and kindness is often a cultivated behavior - both tend to flow out naturally depending on the person... if it is worth your time and you can wait long enough .. all should be come clear as day... the question is ... what are you looking for???
The prettier you are the more privilege you have. Duh! The richer you are the more privilege you have. A 10 has advantages a 7 doesn't. Again, that's obvious. A guy worth 1 billion dollars has power and influence a guy worth 100 million doesn't. Neither have the right to complain. If we're going to make it a contest though it's clear who the winner is.
I’m glad I’m in the “entry level” pretty privilege. Because I still work super hard and have a lot of ambition towards my goals that are completely unrelated to my looks. I don’t have that level of pull to make my looks a lifestyle. Maybe if I posted pictures of my body on the internet but still im very fit but still have a normal body type. But I still do think I have “pretty privilege.”
There's pros and cons in having pretty privileged. You get things for free, yes. But they're not really free when plp always expect something else in return. You can know a lot of plp socially but how many of them are truly your friends? Pretty plp may seems confident on the outside but they can be the most insecure on the inside.
You don't necessarily have to be good looking to receive good treatment. Dressing well, being well groomed, having decent social skills and having good hygiene goes a long way.
A few of the really exceptional 7-9s that have self-confidence or Overt narcissism to the point of charisma are taken for 10s. Confidence makes one more attractive, but charisma is a red flag, one should immediately check for narcissism.
it's better to be in a group of about equals, that way you get access to knowledge on how to handle yourself better, queen of the lower tier gets to much jealousy and mistreatment, bottom of the top tier gets too few opportunities and looked down on if you already have that knowledge and have social and psychological awareness you can move between multiple groups of different tiers but if you don't you get stepped on by all of them
The Fung brothers make videos with range of good topics. I like their podcasts. How about a podcast topic how and where to pick up pretty girls and woo them ? 😃
I mean what she said is pretty accurate, but personality is also huge. One of my old close friends is now a very famous influencer and a millionaire, but almost everyone in our hometown doesn't like her because she had such a rotten personality (hence why we aren't friends anymore). She isn't really able to keep many friends because she uses people and cheated on her boyfriend a lot of times. So yeah.
To those ugly/average people like me, let me tell you what I've learned about dating now that I'm older: Dating extremely attractive people isn't worth it if you value peace and mental health. Most of us are better off dating people who are 5s with a great personality. When I was still young, I used to be so envious of my good-looking, tall and rich cousin who was constantly dating women who were between 7 and 8s. Meanwhile, I was stuck dating 4-6s -- with me walking on eggshells with 6s. But one day in my early 20s, I finally got the chance to date a 7. And you know what happened? It was a complete nightmare because: 1. She was used to men doing 90% of the effort for her (so yeah, you can just imagine how "appreciative" and "cooperative" she was) 2. She would be constantly hit on in public regardless if I'm there or not 3. She has exes that would try to sneak back with her under the guise of being friends and try to find dirt on me 4. She has "male friends" who are just waiting for the chance to sleep or get into a relationship with her To be fair, it was also my first time dating a 7 so I got overwhelmed about the reality that extremely attractive people were living. I didn't expect it to be so "colorful" that I wasn't able to be a proper BF for her. However, later in life, after being more established in life, I tried dating 7s and above once again who were in their late 20s and up. However, it turned out to be the same shit or drama all over again. So again, to those ugly/average people like me, trust me, we're better off dating people who are 5s with a great personality if you value peace and mental health. And those people who are legit 7s and above that you're attracted to? Just look at them from afar, but never get involved with them. It's really not worth it, even if it's just for "fling" purposes. You're literally better off hiring a very expensive and attractive male/female escort for a week because at least they would treat you nice because you're a customer.
She is right on some of the generalizations. She's too young to truly understand why people treat her different. Also she needs braces. People may see pass her looks and even treat her worse.
Women get tons of hate comments from guys on social media. They will call them mid of something about their looks when the post wasn't even about trying to look good.
I got pretty priv even when I was fat. The difference after I lost weight is actual insanity. I do nothing for my looks-- ie I don't wear makeup, I don't do shit for my hair, no fashion, etc and I still get pretty privilege for just existing. You're not allowed to say or acknowledge this bc you're horrible vain person if you do. I have modeled, have been in a few commercials (like for Gap). Pretty Priv exists for sure and I know I'm about to enter another era of it, like you mentioned -- entering a space of older guys and suddenly I'm going to be the young hot thing at 37.
Yeah, pretty privilege is a thing. So is wealth privilege, the class you were born in, the passport you hold. Most people are pretty well aware of this and would just go 'well duh'. That said, these Reddit-style pseudoscientific tier-lists made by people who like trains too much are getting really tedious
Psychopath is in the DSM. Sociopath is no longer in use. Actually, psychopath isn't either. its called aspd. Anti Social Personality Disorder. You are not 'officially' diagnosed with psychopathy, but the word might still be in use.
She’s a 6, then 8, then 10 Model Tier. Usually 10s hold their looks if they don’t get sick or gain weight. Men need to get in better shape to add 2 points.
If she didn't say diagnosed psychopath, I was gonna say it's off to say something as shallow as 'I don't have pretty privilege but those people somewhere else do'
Having a model like girl is like owning a top tier Hyper car. Great in theory but a nightmare in practice. Most of us are better off driving a mid level reliable Honda Civic. Ditto for women
She would probably say for the fung bros that in terms of their pretty privilege scale they would have to be the ones giving free things to people just to be in the same room lol😮😅😅
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No women is a 10. Guys stop thinking women are a 10s if a guy can get an 8 u did good. And most models are not very pretty. Just tall and wyte.
Yea defs, people need to broaden their idea of beauty too. Not just follow the media and try to get a VS model looking person that's tall/skinny/white haha
I think the beauty privilege is nothing compared to the personality or smart privilege, ultimately, the most popular people are the ones who are interesting and smart.
I am from Generation X. The woman who narrated the categories is indeed pretty, but she looks like she had those injections with the protruding lips. A lot of young women who don't even need plastic surgery are getting those implants which actually don't help the appearance. As a biomedical engineer, I also know such injections have side effects that can lead to adverse events. In my youth, plastic surgery was rare. See the "Pans People" of the 1970s and compare them to today's influencers who get those injections. The difference is obvious. I prefer the "old school natural beauty". As an older guy, I can point out that the "9s" and "10s" from the 80s and early 90s have been largely ignored as of about 2010. Youthful beauty is fleeting. I recall the heyday of Carol Alt, Kim Basinger, Rachel Hunter, Kathy Ireland, Cheryl Tiegs, etc. Generation Z likely has never heard of some of them. But there was a time when their youthful beauty got massive attention. It just doesn't last. Moreover, they can still get divorced. Rachel got stood up badly on the way to her planned 2nd marriage when she was middle aged. So, it would seem more pragmatic to rely on long-term skills like business acumen, STEM fields, etc. rather than "pretty privilege" which only lasts into about the early 30s or so. Kathy Ireland aged tremendously, but she has tremendous talent as a businesswoman and continues to thrive in her career outside of modeling which ended decades ago. As for aging, there are women who age slowly but that is exceptional. I know one fitness influencer who still looks a lot like she did in 2003. But that is rare. Pick any ten random "influencers" and check back in about 25 years to see how they age. The "pretty privilege" is very short-term if it does indeed exist for the person.
Seriously? It might be a pretty privilege on the surface but the reality is being a beautiful woman is a really isolating experience. Even when you are surrounded by people that like you because of your looks, no one is really interested in the actual you, no one really sees you for who you really are. Men hunt you like trophies and women are envious of you. What's the benefit of getting tons of stuff for free when you don't have actual, real relationships.
This privilege...that privilege... everything has to be lumped into categories and how can I make myself a victim by saying someone else has it better... this is how people deal with life these days... they used to say don't generalize people, and just do your best... now it's find the patterns, label it, and blame it till you get somewhere in life
The girl didn't play off as a victim though, so you're off the mark. She stated some information and didn't get upset about it. So who's playing the victim?
@@1stHalf It's like you are intentionally playing ignorant. I wasn't talking about this video or her specifically, about culture as a whole lately... try to keep up
I just can’t wait for the Fung Bros to do male pretty privilege. Everyone should know about the meme of the ugly guy asking the pretty chick at work and she’s in the phone calling HR, but when the good looking guy does it she blushes.
Which is really sad and ridiculous to only be kind to people just because they look “prettier.” Everyone needs to be respectful to everyone even if they don’t feel it bc it’s important to be at peace with Everyone, Jesus helping ya! I do see that sometimes when someone is more dressier that they are seen as more “taken seriously” rather than when someone dresses more casually. People look at the outer appearance but the Lord looks at the heart. -1 Samuel 16:7 I do have to say it’s a bit too much to only treat someone better just bc they look attractive versus someone who doesn’t appear as “attractive.” It’s toxic too when ppl become too obsessed with looks and some are always picking something out. It’s wild with how much someone might think someone needs to change something about their appearance when they really don’t and that they should focus on maintaining their health not how some want to see them look a certain way.
I'm not religious and I do agree with you. That's why I treat everyone equal. Also my girl likes to dress up and I like to dress down. She does ask me to dress nicely at times and I don't have a problem with that. When someone causes problems because of how they want the other to look, that's when there's real problems. My girl communicated how it would make her feel and I was happy to make her happy. I'm not the best looking so dressing up nicely does help my confidence.
A very important detail that her explanation lacks is the role of gender. Pretty privilege is obviously a real thing, but it's not symmetrical for both men and women. A woman could be average or even below average in looks but still be more privileged than an attractive guy. To put this into perspective, a mediocre woman with no status has the same sexual pull as an A-list male celebrity. If "all women are beautiful," then no women are beautiful, because the word no longer has meaning. For people to be considered beautiful, there must be those who are ugly, otherwise there's no hierarchical differentiation.
Yeah but being pretty comes with downsides. I'm not jealous either way. You get the cards you are dealt with. I've seen women get jealous, men get mad because she turned him down etc.
I don't want to brag, but I'm definitely in the middle with the three levels. Despite having Bob length hair and a bit of acne, my number gets asked frequently, I've had men offering me free things, Invitations of random store owners to go to some parties, I've even had a fucking guy with his girlfriend wink at me when he was checking out when I was at the counter. He did it sneakily with his other eye so his gf wouldn't see. I often have dudes obsess over me, when I'm clearly emotionally unavailable and I've told them about it. Most people often don't put effort to get to know me and get scared away when they do, because they've put me on this pedestal. I have a pretty quirky and chaotic and big personality and I should feel more shame, because I'm a literal careless clown. I don't hurt people though with my humor. I've just had a rough past and my humor is pretty dark. Having pretty privilege is also kinda dangerous, because it makes you really vulnerable to rape, which happend when I was an really insecure, depressed teen. So being ugly can have it pro's, like people valuing you for your personality and you don't need to wean off freaks and you're less likely to get raped or harassed.
so... I think if you're the biggest fish in a small pond, you're limiting yourself. If you're a small fish in a big pond, there will be more out there, more space to grow, and the only direction to go if you're at the bottom is up. But I guess it really depends on the individual. For example, the question of choosing to be the top 1% pretty as an engineer or bottom % as a model? I think it depends. If you want to be doted on and love the attention and are not seeking to improve your attractiveness, stick to surrounding yourself with the nerds. If you're trying to make a career out of how attractive you are, then being an engineer doesn't make sense. Personally, I guess how I see it is this way for the pretty aspect: on a basic scale compared to the rest of the world, let's say I'm a 7. As a 7 of the world, if you then put me with the engineers, they would see me as a 10. Put me with the models, and I'm a 5. But if I'm around the models and climb my way to becoming an 8 in model land, this would then mean I reach the status of a 9 or 10 compared to the rest of the world, and I'd be god tier pretty if you throw me back in with the engineers. So I think it just matters on what you personally value and are looking to get out of it. If I would like the benefits of pretty privilege, a stable income, and be a contribution to society, then I would be an engineer. If I would like to be photographed as one of Gigi Hadid's besties, then I would go the modeling route.
Is it just me but I kinda didn’t think she had the pretty privilege to begin with. Her face/mouth throws me off. So it was weird watching her talking about pretty privilege. Like one side of her mouth is lower than the other like it’s falling down. In reality no such thing as real pretty privilege. Most pretty privilege is what money can buy…plastic surgery.
Meanwhile I’m trying not to scare myself and my mirror everyday.
I can truly relate to you LOL
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Same, nobody look at me 🤣🤣
As an attractive woman, I learned over time that the sheer mental and emotional labor of vetting men to figure out whether they were genuinely interested in ME or only looking to use me as a trophy to increase their own status was simply not worth it. I opted out of ever seeking relationships and stayed off of dating sites. Thus the only relationships I've been in are the ones that came right into my path, and started as solid friendships first. I will never respect a man that lies to women to get them into bed-- EVEN if he were to (snort) "change his ways" after "falling in love" with me. Then you have the ones that prey on attractive, independent women for the sole purpose of ruining our lives. They are also persona non grata in my world. Since men seem to love being predatory especially around very attractive women, I would rather spend the rest of my life alone than with a man that only wants me for my looks. I suspect that's why a lot of beautiful women are single. Men have ruined dating so bad that many of us are just opting out altogether.
Try going out with no make up and baggy clothes.
wait so you don't care to get married and have a family?
@@QuickStrikes84i do that alot. Men target me and prey on me. It doesnt matter what u were
In the spirit of hard truths since we are commenting on this video, I looked at your profile and I guarantee you nobody is going after you as a trophy. I would seriously consider what makes you think that and if there's any trauma there you should deal with because it sounds like you are not living a fulfilling life as a result of it. Best of luck.
Yup, I'm the ugly girl. Generally, I just have to worry if he's a player or not. Either way, women have it hard.
Same goes for height in men. There is a height privilege for men over 6'0 tall.
Sort of. I am Native American (Apache) 6'1" and 220+ lbs with the size of a football linebacker. In the dating world, it has been a positive factor in some cases. But there still are clusters of racism such that white women are scared of a "big Apache". Size doesn't help if the person is racist - it can make them more afraid or uncomfortable at the sight of us. In those cases, I feel like they would be more comfortable if I were 5'6" and thin. So, there's a mix of responses - sometimes positive and some negative.
@@manuelsteele7755 It's the same for Black men. If neither were rich and famous Shaq would have a harder time not just dating but in life in general than Kevin Hart. Than again, most women don't want a man as tall as Shaq. At a certain point you're a freak. I'm not short or tall. I'm just at average height.
Most of the The most attractive men are short in height! Look at Bts guys women are Really mad for them.
@@abhishekchaudhry80the shortest bts member is 5’9 but yeah even I find them kind of attractive as a girl in her early 20s
@@abhishekchaudhry80 just looked them up the tallest is 6ft- 5’11 and the rest is 5’10 and the two shortest is 5’9 I wouldn’t really call them short especially in Asia
2:01 I don’t think influencers are THAT pretty. They would probably be in that 8 tier that she’s referring to. They’re really basic pretty girls that gets attention and mostly likely show skin/ a bit more provocative. (Sometimes even 1st tier or whatever). Model pretty is it’s own thing in my opinion. They have those wow, unique, harder to obtain features. Atleast for the standards that have been put in this society.
If they were basic pretty girls they wouldn't have a massive following.
@@CocoFranklin basic pretty girls that show skin do gain a following. Only a few of them are really gorgeous. Most of them are regular pretty girls that fit the beauty standard in some ways and tend to show more skin and body.
@@britneyt9253 it's ok to agree to disagree. Also having a nice body is also part of being attractive.
100. I’ve been to influencer events and they are above average looking. None were model status looking. Influencers are 6 to 8.
I got into modeling when I was 13 yrs old. Get educated, learn a trade, make art. Obsessing about how you look is a waste of time.
Just because your attractive doesn't mean your confident or that you love yourself.
that makes no sense, if you are not born beautiful....you cannot be a model professional. a professional model makes more money, lives a better life
And just cause you look good doesn't mean you spend all day on your looks
Beauty standards aren't universal. The most beautiful girl in the US might not be that appealing in South Korea or Japan.
Most people have a broad spectrum of what attractive is (no one goona rate Rosanne Barr over Kim Kardashian) and moving countries for validation arguably a bit extreme.
@@tomhiggins6542 I don't expect people to pack their bags and relocate. Beauty standards do vary across the world. Beauty standards differ from one culture to another as well. Black guys are often attracted to women white guys aren't attracted to. Asians tend to prefer women who are very thin. That doesn't appeal to everybody. Blacks and Latinos tend to like a little more meat. What white men like depends more on the region they're from. Often times there are historical reasons for this. A lot boils down to what's being pushed by the media.
True . Kim Kardashian and jlo are not appealing to Asians
@@blacksea6608 I imagine they'd be more appealing than Rosane Barr
@@tomhiggins6542 There's a spectrum.
An ugly personality makes anyone look ugly to me
You can say that but they're not fishing for complements or things from the lower 99%
@@devonforsure260 exactly and whats considered an ugly personality? You call someone having an ugly personality because they behave in a way you don't want them to behave? Like nobody needs to behave properly or even respect you if "they" don't like you. Now you're acting like you are the chooser like nope I don't like them cause their personality is ugly but they never liked you so it's kind of cope. You're not going to reject a 10 cause she says something ugly like oh black ppl look like monkeys. You still gona smash her even what she says is socially unacceptable lol. No fcking non asian is going to reject a hot model (non asian) even if she is asian and she says negative things about asian men that degrades them saying they are small and physically weak and things to basically degrade them. You as a non asian male is still gona smash this girl , whether she is white, black, hispanic or even asian girl that says this and speaking from experience the non asian guys actually love it when say for example say an asian girl says negative and degrading stuff about asian men like white and black men get off on that saying yeah you want a alpha male don't you? and they are thinking they are the alpha male LOL XD like they didnt reject her cause of her bad personality in fact they feel like now i have to show my alphaness in bed and gets more motivated due to racial competition and positive reinforcements and validation.
Nah. Pretty looking makes you forget about the personality of the person.
@@devonforsure260and they’re not getting them from the 1% either.
@@devonforsure260 And it still doesn't make it any less true.
Once the "Beaty" fades they have almost nothing left in some cases.
I think pretty privilege is probably more pronounced if you’re in a job/social situation where being pretty is important like if you wanna be an influencer or work in fashion but not so much when you’re in stem etc
This
Back in the day in STEM, it was 20 guys to 1 girl. So a 4 is treated like a 7 or 8, and things get really weird.
That doesn't work at all. If I have to deal with a woman recruiter or hiring manager I know I won't get the job. Jealousy is a bitch.
Yes! When I was a postdoc, I had an undergrad honors student who was stunningly beautiful with long blonde hair, lovely eyes and great fashion sense. She was also brilliant and hardworking, but I was apparently the first person to take her ideas seriously. If she was giving a talk, she’d wear glasses with non-prescription lenses to look more “intellectual,” and people treated her better. I think a lot of people mistakenly assume that women can’t be attractive and smart. I think I usually look good but not as good as this woman, so I had empathy for her.
@@worldadventuretravelI get along better with male managers as long as they don’t get creepy.
_It’s real._
And if she is a diagnosed psychopath/sociopath/antisocial disorder, etc- they actually see society from a different lens and can pick up on the nuances that many others can’t because they aren’t as tied to empathy and emotions.
If you are legitimately beautiful, the world treats you completely differently.
I had it and didn’t realize it until I got depressed and gained weight. The world became 100x easier to navigate once I got back in the gym and dropped the weight. It takes time for people to get beyond the exterior and appreciate ppl for who they are inside. And some won’t ever care to do so if they don’t like what’s on the outside.
Most of the time good looks decline over the years those that depend on their physical attraction must accept that it is a temporal advantage - like an athlete whose prime days are over - an pretty idol singer will eventually have to step aside from the center stage for younger pretty talented idols.
Yes aging is a great equalizer
@@irememberla6460 not an equaliser but a reality of life
a temporal advantage is better than no advantage at all
@@asfsfas2435 true
Well, there is also pretty privilege for men. I just recently experienced it. At my haircutter is a good looking man. He is also on the advertisment picture in front of the shop. He messed up my hair. My husband also got a terrible haircut from him. He is a nice guy, but just not good in his job ... i think they keep him just to attract new customers. Anyway, we still go there, but we let our hair cut by another person
Pretty privilege has always been apparent to me, but I have a knack for recognizing patterns of behavior and patterns or trends in society. For me personally though, I don’t put physically attractive people on a pedestal. I value personality, intellect & empathy more. It’s nice though when a woman has a good balance between all 3. Although it’s towards the bottom of my list, being physically attractive does help though.
best comment on this thread!
Right when she started saying how she can use her looks to manipulate people and situations, that's was an immediate red flag. But I guess good on her for being open about her psycopathy
The internet unknowingly made me swallow the black pill. Now my Disney upbringing is all ruined.
what's black pill?
Brain rot shit@@sandipants21
The worst thing is when a handsome or pretty person becomes ugly when they start to talk. It is unbecoming...! Beauty/brawn with confidence (not arrogance) and intelligence can be alluring
When they are nice and have good personalities it can be intoxicating to people though and they can end up getting too much attention which can turn into stalking/harassment/bullying. I think a lot of really goodlooking people develop “bad” personalities as a defense mechanism.
uh no....that sounds good but in reality, beautiful women and men get away with everything.
@@martinvanburen4578 kinda true, the more attractive a person is the more they can get away with without being shunned.
@@bigheadrhino this is so true! If you smile too much next thing you're being followed to your car!
people often don't want to see the attractive person as JUST a person when they show their personality. And if you're a quirky beautiful women, FOREGET IT you're a bitch!
I'd rather be at the top of the low end, proverbial big fish in a small pond rather than the top of the top. And have all the skills and education on the things that will be either useful long-term (technology) and other things that I'm fascinated by/enjoy as opposed to little to no skills & relying on looks.
What she said makes a lot of sense to me.
Personality privilege, funny privilege, style privilege, etc… So many traits that attract and bring value to others. It’s natural and obvious, but I guess we have to talk about them.
unfortually if you're an attractive women you're not allowing to have much of a personality. Everyone is easily offended by you.
Cope privilege
I used to be a real estate agent and all she said is 💯
When u are not good looking many shallow people will despise you, hate you, and treat you poorly. Being ugly can be lonely and for those who cannot adapt to the loneliness -stressful too. Those that like the less attractive will like them for their personality, actions/behavior, or for things they have or control access to. A sociopath manipulates others to create a world order. A psychopath manipulates others to establish a personal lifestyle.
Then a lot of times when you are good looking, people will also despise you, hate you, and treat you poorly. People are dirtbags and you can't put it past someone to be a POS whether they're good looking or ugly.
@@satoril928 Nastiness is a bad habit and kindness is often a cultivated behavior - both tend to flow out naturally depending on the person... if it is worth your time and you can wait long enough .. all should be come clear as day... the question is ... what are you looking for???
I know the experience of being ugly all too well I know the pain ,men will never like me ,people treat me horribly it hurts so bad
Isn’t it always better for the individuals own self growth and sanity to be good at something, regardless of looks?
Self worth. They'll find out when they too old.
The prettier you are the more privilege you have. Duh! The richer you are the more privilege you have. A 10 has advantages a 7 doesn't. Again, that's obvious. A guy worth 1 billion dollars has power and influence a guy worth 100 million doesn't. Neither have the right to complain. If we're going to make it a contest though it's clear who the winner is.
I’m glad I’m in the “entry level” pretty privilege. Because I still work super hard and have a lot of ambition towards my goals that are completely unrelated to my looks. I don’t have that level of pull to make my looks a lifestyle. Maybe if I posted pictures of my body on the internet but still im very fit but still have a normal body type. But I still do think I have “pretty privilege.”
13:00 omg yes. I feel like as a “pretty” carpenter I’m like the queen of the puddle lmao
Thanks for the video, I'm researching pretty previlege for a novel I'm writing this was very good information.
There's pros and cons in having pretty privileged. You get things for free, yes. But they're not really free when plp always expect something else in return. You can know a lot of plp socially but how many of them are truly your friends? Pretty plp may seems confident on the outside but they can be the most insecure on the inside.
You don't necessarily have to be good looking to receive good treatment. Dressing well, being well groomed, having decent social skills and having good hygiene goes a long way.
Lies lol, my friend can look like a bum and still get what she wants lol
@@TT-xz5sy I can't imagine what quality of person would like to date a person who looks like a bum.
@@TT-xz5syno ....messy hair .no cosmetics? Just bagging clothes ? That can make a 8 to 4
@user-sj5ju4jb7t being pretty takes work as well. You can't expect to be cute but dress like a bum.
Unpopular opinion: looks do matter, and in the long run, being attractive guy or girl will only benefit you
What about the model with a unique look? They are considered pretty for their uniqueness. I think sometimes personality can trump actual looks.
I love the way she broke this down
Guys relax like why are we pointing the obvious as if being pretty was a problem when 99% of you would treat a girl different if she’s pretty
If you are model level, most of the time you do not get pretty privilege. Most people are scared of you or hate you.
Exactly. Model level people will only get pretty privilege in the extremely rich class.
She ate this, and I have to save this video
A few of the really exceptional 7-9s that have self-confidence or Overt narcissism to the point of charisma are taken for 10s. Confidence makes one more attractive, but charisma is a red flag, one should immediately check for narcissism.
I love you guys. Very realistic sometimes funny practical advice for guys who are a bit lost like myself.
southkorea can teach a course on this
A hard course at that
If you're so infatuated with looks, then go to Seoul and get plastic surgery.
Thankfully in most jobs, your looks don't matter. Especially many high paying ones like in STEM.
These kinds of conversations always leave room for thought so yeah
it's better to be in a group of about equals, that way you get access to knowledge on how to handle yourself better, queen of the lower tier gets to much jealousy and mistreatment, bottom of the top tier gets too few opportunities and looked down on
if you already have that knowledge and have social and psychological awareness you can move between multiple groups of different tiers but if you don't you get stepped on by all of them
I can listen to Andrew all day😊
The young girl of the super oldies 🤣🤣🤣
The ones in denial are the worse ones
The Fung brothers make videos with range of good topics. I like their podcasts. How about a podcast topic how and where to pick up pretty girls and woo them ? 😃
How about the unpretty ones .you don't want them ? Maybe they are better in bed
I mean what she said is pretty accurate, but personality is also huge. One of my old close friends is now a very famous influencer and a millionaire, but almost everyone in our hometown doesn't like her because she had such a rotten personality (hence why we aren't friends anymore). She isn't really able to keep many friends because she uses people and cheated on her boyfriend a lot of times. So yeah.
Kindness, Humility in the biblical sense and Humor can make the most ugly person have the most beautiful heart.
To those ugly/average people like me, let me tell you what I've learned about dating now that I'm older: Dating extremely attractive people isn't worth it if you value peace and mental health. Most of us are better off dating people who are 5s with a great personality.
When I was still young, I used to be so envious of my good-looking, tall and rich cousin who was constantly dating women who were between 7 and 8s. Meanwhile, I was stuck dating 4-6s -- with me walking on eggshells with 6s.
But one day in my early 20s, I finally got the chance to date a 7. And you know what happened? It was a complete nightmare because:
1. She was used to men doing 90% of the effort for her (so yeah, you can just imagine how "appreciative" and "cooperative" she was)
2. She would be constantly hit on in public regardless if I'm there or not
3. She has exes that would try to sneak back with her under the guise of being friends and try to find dirt on me
4. She has "male friends" who are just waiting for the chance to sleep or get into a relationship with her
To be fair, it was also my first time dating a 7 so I got overwhelmed about the reality that extremely attractive people were living. I didn't expect it to be so "colorful" that I wasn't able to be a proper BF for her.
However, later in life, after being more established in life, I tried dating 7s and above once again who were in their late 20s and up. However, it turned out to be the same shit or drama all over again.
So again, to those ugly/average people like me, trust me, we're better off dating people who are 5s with a great personality if you value peace and mental health.
And those people who are legit 7s and above that you're attracted to? Just look at them from afar, but never get involved with them. It's really not worth it, even if it's just for "fling" purposes. You're literally better off hiring a very expensive and attractive male/female escort for a week because at least they would treat you nice because you're a customer.
Vanity discussions are brutal but can be helpful🤷🏽♀️🥹
She is right on some of the generalizations. She's too young to truly understand why people treat her different. Also she needs braces. People may see pass her looks and even treat her worse.
My boyfriend and I were smoking hot in our 20s and people still didn’t want us unless we served as some kind of trophy 🏆
This pretty woman is right on target.
Women get tons of hate comments from guys on social media. They will call them mid of something about their looks when the post wasn't even about trying to look good.
Noticed this as well men are extremely hateful towards women
I think most people know this but she outright said it.
I got pretty priv even when I was fat. The difference after I lost weight is actual insanity. I do nothing for my looks-- ie I don't wear makeup, I don't do shit for my hair, no fashion, etc and I still get pretty privilege for just existing. You're not allowed to say or acknowledge this bc you're horrible vain person if you do. I have modeled, have been in a few commercials (like for Gap). Pretty Priv exists for sure and I know I'm about to enter another era of it, like you mentioned -- entering a space of older guys and suddenly I'm going to be the young hot thing at 37.
Yeah, pretty privilege is a thing. So is wealth privilege, the class you were born in, the passport you hold. Most people are pretty well aware of this and would just go 'well duh'. That said, these Reddit-style pseudoscientific tier-lists made by people who like trains too much are getting really tedious
Psychopath is in the DSM. Sociopath is no longer in use. Actually, psychopath isn't either. its called aspd. Anti Social Personality Disorder. You are not 'officially' diagnosed with psychopathy, but the word might still be in use.
She’s a 6, then 8, then 10 Model Tier. Usually 10s hold their looks if they don’t get sick or gain weight.
Men need to get in better shape to add 2 points.
Lol in what world would someone choose to be a 1 over a 6...
She’s on point! 💯
I’m definitely entry level pretty privilege lmao
Love this conversation!
If she didn't say diagnosed psychopath, I was gonna say it's off to say something as shallow as 'I don't have pretty privilege but those people somewhere else do'
This video is a classic. It needs to be taught in college. Tier 1= Girls who are 7 & 8, Tier 2=9-10, Tier 3=8-10 with Celebrity Status.
12:35 she’s right. 🤷🏾♀️
Ive seen not so pretty women win.... but they probably got game lol
It's true, every girl wants to be a princess but majority doesn't fit the role.
I just learned I have NO pretty privilege 😒
My late father taught me to marry a normal looking girl, and that's what i did
Probably the best decision of my life yet
I hope she doesnt see this.
Having a model like girl is like owning a top tier Hyper car. Great in theory but a nightmare in practice. Most of us are better off driving a mid level reliable Honda Civic. Ditto for women
Only good to look at with high maintenance.
🤣🤣🤣
Why is this generation so obsessed with prettiness?
8s 9s 10s live in nice neighborhoods
Not true a lot of ugly fat rich people live in expensive locations
She would probably say for the fung bros that in terms of their pretty privilege scale they would have to be the ones giving free things to people just to be in the same room lol😮😅😅
No women is a 10. Guys stop thinking women are a 10s if a guy can get an 8 u did good. And most models are not very pretty. Just tall and wyte.
Nobody is a 10 regardless of gender
Yea defs, people need to broaden their idea of beauty too. Not just follow the media and try to get a VS model looking person that's tall/skinny/white haha
I think the beauty privilege is nothing compared to the personality or smart privilege, ultimately, the most popular people are the ones who are interesting and smart.
What's the first girl's @ I want to hear about her being a psychopath
I am from Generation X. The woman who narrated the categories is indeed pretty, but she looks like she had those injections with the protruding lips. A lot of young women who don't even need plastic surgery are getting those implants which actually don't help the appearance. As a biomedical engineer, I also know such injections have side effects that can lead to adverse events. In my youth, plastic surgery was rare. See the "Pans People" of the 1970s and compare them to today's influencers who get those injections. The difference is obvious. I prefer the "old school natural beauty".
As an older guy, I can point out that the "9s" and "10s" from the 80s and early 90s have been largely ignored as of about 2010. Youthful beauty is fleeting. I recall the heyday of Carol Alt, Kim Basinger, Rachel Hunter, Kathy Ireland, Cheryl Tiegs, etc. Generation Z likely has never heard of some of them. But there was a time when their youthful beauty got massive attention. It just doesn't last. Moreover, they can still get divorced. Rachel got stood up badly on the way to her planned 2nd marriage when she was middle aged.
So, it would seem more pragmatic to rely on long-term skills like business acumen, STEM fields, etc. rather than "pretty privilege" which only lasts into about the early 30s or so. Kathy Ireland aged tremendously, but she has tremendous talent as a businesswoman and continues to thrive in her career outside of modeling which ended decades ago.
As for aging, there are women who age slowly but that is exceptional. I know one fitness influencer who still looks a lot like she did in 2003. But that is rare. Pick any ten random "influencers" and check back in about 25 years to see how they age. The "pretty privilege" is very short-term if it does indeed exist for the person.
I'm a man and my girlfriend thinks I get pretty privilege from girls I don't see it ..
Pretty privilege is just hypergamy. But hypergamy is just a big word you don't know the meaning of 😂
Seriously? It might be a pretty privilege on the surface but the reality is being a beautiful woman is a really isolating experience. Even when you are surrounded by people that like you because of your looks, no one is really interested in the actual you, no one really sees you for who you really are. Men hunt you like trophies and women are envious of you. What's the benefit of getting tons of stuff for free when you don't have actual, real relationships.
“Pretty” funny, the first day of Asian and PI heritage month, the Fung bros upload a topic that has nothing to do with asians.
And probably better that way because it has become a way for them to compartmentalize real issues like a quarantine
Her eyes are so creepy but what she said is real.
This privilege...that privilege... everything has to be lumped into categories and how can I make myself a victim by saying someone else has it better... this is how people deal with life these days... they used to say don't generalize people, and just do your best... now it's find the patterns, label it, and blame it till you get somewhere in life
Who says you're a victim?
@@wrench246 where did i say i was a victim?
The girl didn't play off as a victim though, so you're off the mark. She stated some information and didn't get upset about it. So who's playing the victim?
@@1stHalf It's like you are intentionally playing ignorant. I wasn't talking about this video or her specifically, about culture as a whole lately... try to keep up
@@MedalionDS9 try and keep up with your random topic that has nothing to do with the video? Usually comments on videos are related to the video.
It can help I career with men also, and being taller..
The Fung bro in black has a bit more pretty privilege than the bro in taupe.
They’re both nice looking guys.
I just can’t wait for the Fung Bros to do male pretty privilege. Everyone should know about the meme of the ugly guy asking the pretty chick at work and she’s in the phone calling HR, but when the good looking guy does it she blushes.
Everything she said is facts. I have mid tier pretty privilege.
Pretty Good. But No money, No honey.
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Rip tila tequila pretty privilage expired
Which is really sad and ridiculous to only be kind to people just because they look “prettier.”
Everyone needs to be respectful to everyone even if they don’t feel it bc it’s important to be at peace with Everyone, Jesus helping ya!
I do see that sometimes when someone is more dressier that they are seen as more “taken seriously” rather than when someone dresses more casually.
People look at the outer appearance but the Lord looks at the heart. -1 Samuel 16:7
I do have to say it’s a bit too much to only treat someone better just bc they look attractive versus someone who doesn’t appear as “attractive.”
It’s toxic too when ppl become too obsessed with looks and some are always picking something out.
It’s wild with how much someone might think someone needs to change something about their appearance when they really don’t and that they should focus on maintaining their health not how some want to see them look a certain way.
I'm not religious and I do agree with you. That's why I treat everyone equal. Also my girl likes to dress up and I like to dress down. She does ask me to dress nicely at times and I don't have a problem with that. When someone causes problems because of how they want the other to look, that's when there's real problems. My girl communicated how it would make her feel and I was happy to make her happy. I'm not the best looking so dressing up nicely does help my confidence.
Yay!!! Pretty!!! 😍🥰
Love the Fung bros but they are obsessed about girls looks.
40 😂 that’s not old
A very important detail that her explanation lacks is the role of gender. Pretty privilege is obviously a real thing, but it's not symmetrical for both men and women. A woman could be average or even below average in looks but still be more privileged than an attractive guy. To put this into perspective, a mediocre woman with no status has the same sexual pull as an A-list male celebrity.
If "all women are beautiful," then no women are beautiful, because the word no longer has meaning. For people to be considered beautiful, there must be those who are ugly, otherwise there's no hierarchical differentiation.
True . But what if I say " all pus@ies are beautiful ! "
I guess I'm entry level then...lol..
so any girl that use that on you stay away
Yeah but being pretty comes with downsides. I'm not jealous either way. You get the cards you are dealt with. I've seen women get jealous, men get mad because she turned him down etc.
I don't want to brag, but I'm definitely in the middle with the three levels. Despite having Bob length hair and a bit of acne, my number gets asked frequently, I've had men offering me free things, Invitations of random store owners to go to some parties, I've even had a fucking guy with his girlfriend wink at me when he was checking out when I was at the counter. He did it sneakily with his other eye so his gf wouldn't see. I often have dudes obsess over me, when I'm clearly emotionally unavailable and I've told them about it. Most people often don't put effort to get to know me and get scared away when they do, because they've put me on this pedestal. I have a pretty quirky and chaotic and big personality and I should feel more shame, because I'm a literal careless clown. I don't hurt people though with my humor. I've just had a rough past and my humor is pretty dark.
Having pretty privilege is also kinda dangerous, because it makes you really vulnerable to rape, which happend when I was an really insecure, depressed teen. So being ugly can have it pro's, like people valuing you for your personality and you don't need to wean off freaks and you're less likely to get raped or harassed.
Gotta be rough being a girl when age hits and things start falling apart..
Thanks to all the simps...
so... I think if you're the biggest fish in a small pond, you're limiting yourself. If you're a small fish in a big pond, there will be more out there, more space to grow, and the only direction to go if you're at the bottom is up. But I guess it really depends on the individual.
For example, the question of choosing to be the top 1% pretty as an engineer or bottom % as a model? I think it depends. If you want to be doted on and love the attention and are not seeking to improve your attractiveness, stick to surrounding yourself with the nerds. If you're trying to make a career out of how attractive you are, then being an engineer doesn't make sense.
Personally, I guess how I see it is this way for the pretty aspect: on a basic scale compared to the rest of the world, let's say I'm a 7. As a 7 of the world, if you then put me with the engineers, they would see me as a 10. Put me with the models, and I'm a 5. But if I'm around the models and climb my way to becoming an 8 in model land, this would then mean I reach the status of a 9 or 10 compared to the rest of the world, and I'd be god tier pretty if you throw me back in with the engineers.
So I think it just matters on what you personally value and are looking to get out of it. If I would like the benefits of pretty privilege, a stable income, and be a contribution to society, then I would be an engineer. If I would like to be photographed as one of Gigi Hadid's besties, then I would go the modeling route.
Is it just me but I kinda didn’t think she had the pretty privilege to begin with. Her face/mouth throws me off. So it was weird watching her talking about pretty privilege. Like one side of her mouth is lower than the other like it’s falling down. In reality no such thing as real pretty privilege. Most pretty privilege is what money can buy…plastic surgery.
Uhh? She definitely looks better than average, exactly in the tier she said, she didn't call herself a model bruh
Bruh she said she’s an 6 to 7 and entry level pretty not model pretty duh
Her mouth is a mess but she is still pretty
😢when you can’t chose your genes