If I remember correctly in the 616-MCU Universe mentioned Odin took Loki an he was smallest of Giants and helpless during the war and took him in since he probably wouldn’t survive and seems the defect would make him weak compared to the others. Maybe in the this universe he didn’t have this handicap. But yeah I think that was said in Thor 1. Here’s the link to what I refer to.
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I think if Hela had showed up in this universe, she would have had to give up her plans of conquering Asgard, or risk being called a party pooper by Thor.
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That's quite the glow-up from the comics. I remember her hitting Hulk as hard as she could, but he just smiled and said "Do you feel better now?" before punching her into space
MCU Hulk is also way weaker than the Hulk in comics. I think her displayed power level in THIS series is pretty accurate and fair. Thor still won and it wasnt even Thor at his best
The answer to the big question is this: The moment of divergence of this "What If..?" is not Odin returning Loki to his parents. It is that, in this reality, Loki was born the right size. Remember, Loki's real father throws him away BECAUSE of his size. So, in this reality, he was born "normal", so Odin did not see any reason for keeping him.
In answer to Mason's question about Loki's size, Loki is a shape shifter so I always just assumed Loki was subconsciously making himself Asgardian. You can also see that Loki is still smaller than the other frost giants
I like the theory that when Odin found baby Loki, they imprinted on each other and Loki subconsciously took a form similar to Hela (remember all the jokes when Ragnarok came out about how Thor looks like the adopted sibling of the 3?). Then maybe Odin or Frigga put a charm on baby Loki to keep the form.
Well one thing I think I remember in the film, Loki was essentially casted out because he was a runt for a frost giant. Which is why he stays small. As for the skin, I assume it was just due to magic and Frigga taught him more magic to shapeshift
The Watcher's reaction at the end was hilarious. He's finally looking at a reality where it doesn't go to shit and BOOOM Ultron and he's like wait whaaat?
It marked an important split in the show. Before that point, The Watcher always spoke from a position of surety about the events to come. Almost as if he knew what was next, however that surprised him, and that means there's some level of randomness going on. Which would match up well with what went on in the Loki show.
@Clio at first I didn't recognise her. Hell, I had kinda forgot her by the time of Wandavision. If not for that I wouldn't remember the glasses or her.
Keep in mind that visions original body was made by Ultron for himself, so this version is prob just the version he was planning on making, without jarvis ever being put into that body
This definitely seems like the version from the next Black Widow episode. Based on Endgame they have to work in various timelines, but potentially not various dimensions?
I watched this episode and I stopped paying attention towards the end, so I completely missed the Ultron appearance. It was a fun silly episode, but I was zoning out, by the end of it.
This episode didn’t make a lot of sense, but it did make me laugh. Even the fight between Thor and Danvers, which was very well executed, was comical. Thor having to clean up the world, because his mom was coming? Priceless. To the naysayers, an anthology series cannot just be doom and gloom-lighten up.
This one felt the most cartoonish of them all. I loved Chris Hemsworth’s performance in this and that they didn’t destroy the Opera House or the Harbour Bridge! Looking forward to what happens with the Infinity Stone Vision Ultron.
Had a lot of fun with this episode, maybe because it was so lighthearted. I've enjoyed the whole series so far, but this one just hit a little different for me and might be my favorite of the bunch. In regards to telling Darcy and Jane apart, Jane was missing Natalie Portman's mole on her left cheek, something that is faithfully recreated in Star Wars animations, and I was so disappointed it didn't show up in this show. That's how you know it's Natalie Portman! We need the beauty mark!
This episode and the evil Dr. Strange one were great, both showed potential of what this series could be down the line I think. I hope it leans more into the Twilight Zone vibes of the Strange one, or at least the comedy animated series vibes of this one.
Jane is also skinnier, slightly shorter. Has a slightly different eye shape. Pointier chin, and a smaller nose. If anything, Darcy looks too idealized. In real life, her actor is thicker, and she has a broader chin and bigger hooked nose.
The video editing on this is stunning! and that Cut between Mjolnir flying towards Marvel and then Thor catching Stormbreaker by Marvel, my my, *chef's kiss*
Corn of Coblin can't appear too often though, since he's the big bad of the entire Marvel multiverse, so they're saving most of his screen time for the final conflict.
That scene when Thor and CM are going at it in the clouds and both their powers are creating a thunderstorm was some of the most beautiful animation I've seen whether you're talking about animation or anime. Heck I'd even say it's up there with some live action shots that have been done
Remember how Bradley Cooper was in The Hangover, and they all wake up in the hotel room? I wonder if putting Rocket in there passed out was an homage to that.
@@TylerSmith-sd2oc its more of an shapeshifting thing He grew up as asgardian in the original so he shapeshifted like one Here he was raised by frost giants hence he looks like a frost giant
@@stranger59 perhaps with Loki not torturing Thor all the time, Heimdall never really sympathizes with this party animal/spoiled prince who hasn't had to struggle in life. So they just never click
Yeah I'm betting he didn't speak because they couldn't get Idris Elba. The dude didn't speak at all in this whole episode. Then again, I really don't understand how they can have other characters who are way more important than Heimdall have other voice actors but for some reason didn't give Heimdall a voice actor.
This episode was a good bit of daft fun. Every party scene reminded me of the Mos Eisley cantina from LEGO Star Wars, where you had villains and heroes from across the generations just having a good time together.
@@tasha7726 A lot characters looked off model despite having their original actors reprise their role. Rachel McAdams’ character from the Strange episode looked nothing like her, for example 🤷♂️
I had seen an article that the shows producer didn’t watch marvel all that much and admitted she has some small continuity errors. Props to her did being honest tho
I thought that aswell, but then Thor doesn't really tap into his full potential until Ragnarok and afterwards, whereas CM can hit her max right out the bat.
@@TonyKalashnikov Don't worry, Thor will gain the Odin force in Thor love and thunder hopefully and he will become the most powerful and strongest avenger. Look what this weak party Thor could do to captain marvel, imagine Ragnarok Thor kicking captain marvel's ass.
Frigga used her dark magic to make Loki look Asgardian. Thats also the reason for his mischievious nature. Without Friggas dark magic he is a jolly frost giant.
Odin enchanted Loki when he was a baby so that he’d look Asgardian, that’s why his skin goes from blue to a more human color. Frigga more than likely taught her husband sorcery like she did Loki.
In Sagas Odin spent time in on Earth as a woman practicing seiðr, a form of magic typically associated with women. It was considered unmanly, although some men practiced it too. Freyja had introduced seiðr to the Æsir and taught it to Odin. In Lokasenna, Loki enters the party, pissed off for the receprion, and starts trading insults with other gods. Odin accused him of spending 8 years on Earth as a woman, milking cows and giving birth to children, to which Loki replies what Odin himself spent time on Earth as a woman practicing magic, knocking at houses as a fortune teller.
Everyone here thinking Odin is some super power god of everything like Zeus. Damn people need to look at some of the norse mythos to see how weak this dude actually was even compared to the rest of the gods.
Corey Worthington is a world wide reference. We all know about his party. We are all upset his parents didn't go on holiday for the last year and a half
I was surprised to hear Clancy Brown as Surtur in the movie, double surprised he came back for this episode just to flirt with the Statue of Liberty. Always good to hear Clancy Brown.
@@LordMooshroom it’s vision in an ultron armour. So using vision’s voice would be easier as Paul bettary has already came back. Likely he will do the voice as getting James spader but be too expensive
Gonna throw this crazy thought into the What If equation = WHAT IF...we're seeing all these variant timelines throughout this series as a result of the end of Loki (I don't think many people haven't already thought about that). With the fabric of time, space, reality, etc. literally breaking/cracking do you think the 'rules' are falling apart as well? What I mean by that is, say the Infinity Stones followed the same rule as the comics; NOT working in another universe but ONLY working in the universe the stones are from. Since everything is kind of breaking apart while 'merging' together or at the very least crossing over from one universe to the next could that mean the stones this Ultron/Vision has on its body would work in other universes as well? OR all of this is me overthinking and the MCU will just have the stones work pretty much anywhere unless they are in some sort of area that nullifies magic and other forms of power like the T.V.A. base of operations.
Its possible. I think that could be shown at the end of the show with the universes merging. So far we see that the universes are in a bubble and dont really connect. I think with the final 2 episodes we could see the timelines collide and have some connections to loki.
The MCU doesn't seem to adhere to the "stones only work in their origin universe" rule. All the stones in Endgame were from different timelines/universes and worked fine. Unless I'm mistaken, Kang's concern wasn't that the universes or their laws would break down, he was concerned that they would cause another inter universal war, which Ultron seems to be doing, but the timeline branching doesn't seem to have any adverse effects on its own.
The way I see it... I think theres a differences between timelines and universes. Remember in loki how Kang explained how all of the universes were stacked on top of each other? And that branches from each universe broke off and seemed to cross with other branches and then there was a multiversal war... until kang started pruning each branch to keep the other universes from branching into his "sacred timeline" I could be wrong, I fully admit I'm an idiot. But I see these as branches on the MCU universe, and not completely separate universes. So the timelines branching off of the same universe may allow use of the same stones, whereas if they cross over with say... earth 616 or the noir universe they probably wouldn't work there since those are completely separate universes with no shared DNA. Kang didn't wipe out every other universe, just followed some of the loose ends to nearby ones, destroyed them, and created enough space between the MCU and the others that none of their branches would grow far enough to touch his. And now that he's gone, some of the branches will start getting close enough to intertwine with other universes which is probably how it's possible to meet Garfield and Maguire in No Way Home.
People are speculating that since Fury and SHIELD is messing with Thor, they didn’t play the part that was needed for Tony to cure himself from the poisoning that was coming from his arc reactor.
3:28 The intro, like the first 5 minutes, of the first Thor Movie explains why Loki looks like an Asgardian rather than a Frost Giant. When Odin finds Loki, he touches Loki's face and it turns from Blue to Caucasian. Loki looks like an Asgardian because Odin used the Odinforce to make him look Asgardian.
@Jon Valler You can managed to read a wikipedia article a while back and now you think that knowing the historical context of the term Caucasian makes you a genius. Caucasian is the term used in Modern English to refer to white people. Drivers Licenses, Passports, Census, Application to College... Yes congrats, you took grade 10 social studies and learned that Caucasian initially referred to people from the Caucasus regions. You didn't school me, your comment was dumb. You aren't the only one that went to high school. White people is a stupid ass distinction, white people are actually pinkish beige. Tom Hiddleston is Pinkish Beige. Are you Happy now?
I think Odin did put an enchantment on him from the beginning but I think his size is because he was left starving and due to a lack of nourishment was small (in the movie I think Odin makes comment on his size) So had Loki been given back to Laufey then I think maybe he took better care of him and he was able to grow and he was also raised on Jötunheimr so maybe being in the icy environment allowed him to grow
For some reason I feel like Party Thor would solve the problem of Hela easier. She’d be like “We need to kill and take over the realms!” And he’d just say, “Yeah, but why?” And she’d be wildly taken aback and realise the fun of hanging out with those realms would be better than conquering them?
I just wanna say, Collins (Colleens?) edit of the animated mjolnir passing Capt Marvels head transitioning into live action storm breaker passing her head was the SMOOTHEST I’ve ever seen 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
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Isn’t Captain Marvel’s whole schtick that she absorbes ambient energy?. The reason she was able to hold Thanos in a vice was because she was absorbing energy from the infinity gauntlet and the reason she was able to destroy his ship was because she absorbed the energy of the ships cannons firing at her. Basically she’s only as powerful as her surroundings allow her to be.
Yeah, I actually like her characterization here much better than in her film. It’s all in the writing for me, AND I think they did better with her powers as well here
We will never know if she is stronger than Thor. We never get to see the BOTH of them really let loose and fight. The fight in this episode implied that they're more like rough housing, rather than fighting.
@@blyzer7373 wouldn’t of killed him lol. Takes alot more than that to kill Thor. Thor had her pinned and if he really wanted to could of killed her but he wasn’t trying to fight 🤷♂️
@@magmablaster8955 "could of" lol We literally were told she is going to kill him. If it wasn't such a big deal then the episode itself wouldn't threat it as a big deal.
Episode walked right past a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for a Slurms McKenzie easter egg. One brief shot of a giant slug with bloodshot eyes holding a soda can, and you'd have earned the remainder of my dwindling millennial cachet.
i lost it when frigga rocks up and everyone is just sitting there listening to thor do a lecture reminds me of when i was 16 i was at a house party with like 60 people and the cops showed up to shut the party down and we all turned the music off and put the footy on the TV and sat on the floor in the loungeroom like all 60 of us and the cops walked in and just looked at us all and shook their heads while we were all acting innocent hiding our drinks behind our backs
From the scene that you also showed, I always just assumed that Odin initially cast a spell that made Loki look human, and then once Loki grew up it was a conscious choice that he himself manifests based on what he believes. I say that remembering the scene where he makes his own skin blue, but retains the smaller size.
Quick note that in this universe, Mjolnir does not have a “worthy” enchantment on it, as it only is given by Odin when Thor is cast out, which doesn’t happen here since Loki isn’t around to stop Thor’s coronation
Read the comics. The enchantment has been in the hammer ever since Thor was still a child. He initially couldn't lift it, he had to undergo several challenges and adventures before he proved his worthiness. I know that's comics, this is the MCU, but Marvel Studios took their cues from the comics. In the Thor movie, there was already an enchantment on mjolnir even before Thor's attack on Jotunheim. What Odin did was to strip Thor of his powers and immortality, and made him human. He will not regain his powers and godhood until he proves himself worthy to wield Mjolnir again. When he heard about the "satellite" that no one could lift, he knew that it was actually Mjolnir, because supposedly only he and Odin could lift it.
Odin already had an enchantment that only Thor could hold it so that's why carol Danvers couldn't pick it up... because she wasn't thor. In the first Thor movie Odin puts A SECOND enchantment so that WHOEVER(not just Thor) is worthy can pick it up, even then captain marvel isn't worthy enough.
@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 if that was the case I remember Loki being super surprised that he couldn’t lift Thor’s hammer in the first Thor, but if it was already enchanted why would he even bother trying to lift it?
You hit it when you answered Mason’s question with his mother having a hand in it. The first couple of movies, the fancy one and the dark awful one, state Loki was taught magic by Frigga and that is how he can manipulate his illusions which is how he appears to everyone else. Loki found it useful because it allowed for him to manipulate Thor. I thought something similar when with that women on the beach. First I thought it was a nod to Tahiti, and also I tried to see who it was but there wasn’t enough of the face but then I thought who would not react to something like that and also be that tall and my guess is it is Captain Carter decompressing from being torn out of her time, which would place this episode in 2012 btw.
Okay hear me out, The reason the Tesseract was in Norway at the start of First Avenger is apparently (I looked it up) because Odin lost it there during a battle between the Frost Giants and the Asgardians. In this episode we briefly see that Odin returning the baby Loki to the Frost Giants seems to bring about peace between the two races. So unless the Tesseract had already been lost there's no reason why they would have the battle in Norway meaning Odin would still have the Tesseract. If the Tesseract is not on earth there is no way that Carol Danvers would have been able to get her powers from it, which means that this episode of what if is paradoxical and may not be possible in terms of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff I know the theory has a lot of holes I just thought of it and thought it was kind of funny
When Ultron appears at the end of the episode, the Mind Stone in his head was glowing. It also emitted the sound it usually makes when it’s used. So, he’s definitely using them. How they’ll defeat an ultra-smart AI that has infinity power? No clue.
I like to think Loki looking human was just something he did subconsciously, cause remember he didn't learn he was a frost giant until much later in his life, so it makes sense he'd mimic Odin when he was a baby and just stayed that way cause it's what he's used to.
I don't remember when, probably when he found out that he was a frost giant, but, he Odin says something along the lines of, "even as an infant you were trying to impress me" Again, I think I remember them saying something like that but, I'm not 100% sure
@@mfagamer843 big agree, MCU Thor and Hulk get hit with the nerfing stick allthe damn time while Carol Denvers got buffed up by an ridiculous amount. If she ever had any actual popularity as Captain Marvel I wouldn't mind. But as it is, it just feel like the most forced shit ever. Giving Captain Marvel a buff and calling her the strongest avenger will not make people like her. Captain America is far from being the most powerful Avenger, yet the Russo brothers turned him into the most interesting one in the MCU. You can't sell a character on hype and power alone.
The Captain Marvel in this universe seemed more enjoyable and seeing her not one-shot someone was quite refreshing. Added more to her character than the movie
She does seem more likable in this. Her interaction with Darcy, holding up the stone henge and those little stuff make her more relatable and more human. The end with her helping Thor out has some big sister vibes as well. Lots of character work that the movie hasn’t done yet.
I think the MCU just started out portraying her as TOO stoic and stern, now they're doing the work to soften her up and make her more relatable. I kinda get it though, she was mind-wiped and turned into a soldier for an alien death squad. Probably takes a bit to mellow out from something like that.
My flatmate and I watch every What If episode and as soon as this one ended, we watched the Corey Worthington interview cos we were reminded of it too hahahaha too good
In Thor: The First Thor, Odin says Loki was smaller than a normal Frost Giant, which is why he was left to die -so he's just naturally human size. Either the writers didn't bother to rewarch the movies or in this universe, he wasn't a runt - that being why Loki's real father didn't just disown him.
I have a theory that Odin offered medical help for Loki that helped him grow. A poster on tumblr took screen shots of the scenes where Loki is standing next to the other Frost Giants and he's still shorter than them.
About Loki: I'll go with the environment. We see in the first film, the cold makes his skin go blue. So being constantly exposed to the cold of their home world, makes the skin permanently blue. A bit like how humans get a tan in the sun. Then I guess the giant size is the same deal. Not being exposed to regular cold, stumped his growth.
That was always my though, even in the Thor movie he goes blue when he uses that one weapon from his home world. I just assumed it's a biological trait since back then. Yeah he was born a runt compared to the other frost Giants, but had he stayed on Jodenheim he would have remained blue, as his body needs to survive in the cold.
I mean it was Thor 1 Thor. And a much less battle tested/warrior based Thor. (Which means he is weaker than the MCU version) And he still pinned her down by the end of their first fight 😂 Current Wanda and Strange still destroy both of them.
@@gamongames I’m pretty sure since he’s still able to utilize the hammers abilities in the episode. The enchantment would still be there. It’d be enchanted if “whoever shall possess this hammer, if they’re worthy, they shall possess the powers of Thor” since he first got the hammer from Odin. It makes sense why she was pinned down
havent you watched Thor Ragnarok or Thor 1? the powers are his, he's the god of thunder, not the god of hammers. also, the enchantment is placed the moment Thor is banned in the first film, not when its first acquired by Thor. no banishment, no enchantment.
Please never stop doing these recap/reviews for literally every MCU Disney + property, it's crazy how incomplete it felt not seeing this after I'd watched the episode and it's only been one day lmao
The fight scenes in this series need to be adopted by the MCU movies, how they are shot. Longer non-cutting clips of beautifully choreographed action. The Captain Carter montage from episode 1 would’ve been amazing in live action. The scene where Peggy takes out the bomber and fighter plane in flight is a great example.
@@jubjub7101 this is literally the first time I heard this complaint and I disagree with it completely. No I wasn’t sarcastic. That’s legitimately the most baffling criticism I have ever heard about the MCU. Cannot think of anything outside of Civil War that would constitute as “cutting too much”
Im just confused on why SHIELD called captain marvel when Thor was throwing a party (a dangerous one, but still a party) but didn’t when earth is directly attacked by aliens under conquest threat
Fury was more hesitant to pull the trigger. He wanted his Avengers team to stand on their own without having to fall back on Cap. Marvel. Maria Hill was pushed into leadership suddenly after Fury was put into a coma and just wanted to end the threat, so of course she used the pager.
You are confused that Shield acted differently in different universes? With 2 different leaders? You don't seem to get the concept of the multiverse. There is probably a universe where Fury used the pager much earlier or another universe where he misplaced the pager and never got it back. This is the multiverse of infinite possibilities
Feige also hinted that maybe fury did use it in avengers but she just didn’t make it in time cause the avengers handled it but I don’t know if that’s credible at all
@@enadegheeghaghe6369 i do get it, but the fun part of a what ifs, at least in the comics, is "if everything was exactly the same EXCEPT for the ramifications of this specific action what would happen?", if you change how other characters might react you kinda are not really doing a "what if", just a different universe story, not quite the same. Tho now thinking about it there is one major difference between this two universes that would justify calling captain marvel: this what if takes place during the first thor movie time-wise, Hulk is still fairly unknown, Tony Stark is still sick, Barton and Romanoff are probably on missions of their own, and cap is still in the ice... there are NO AVENGERS to call or nobody else that would deal with the asgardians partying, in this case Danvers seems like the first choice to call.
This series is really hitting all the right notes, we go from deeply depressing, nothing but death and despair in one episode, then too a super fun, happy go lucky epic party
@@JusDion ya every white male character has been turned into either a villain or a bumbling idiot or both while all the female characters have God level powers and can do no wrong and don't even get me started on that episode with t'challa playing space Jesus
I really like this episode. It’s the only episode to me where nothing productive or life threatening took place. If these episodes were days of the week, this would be Saturday. Chill and laid back.
I think we'll see the various villains all cross into one another as theorized here. There's a frame in the trailers of Ego using his powers yelling out and we haven't seen all that much of him yet so I'm assuming he comes back for that final episode.
They fought pretty evenly I wouldn't say one was shown to be stronger than the other. Plus they were both holding back. Edit: I had a feeling you guys wouldn't take the debate that seriously and it was just a title to get people to click. Classic.
This is an actual conversation that needs to happen though. The MCU has nerfed a lot of characters into the ground, while with others they start at the peak of what they're able to do in comics. It makes little to no sense. Also the continent punch is something from the comics. I vaguely remember it being Carol Danvers and the Hulk who do it to each other.
@@darksaint0124 it's also a series that's included zombies, Dr strange sucking up another docter strange and also did I mention zombies? It's What if, who cares lmao
also captain marvel caught thor off guard both times. I think infinity war thor would easily beat captain marvel since he almost took out an army and the ships and cut thanos's head even after thanos having all the infinity stones
@@TheAakeeb93 - MCU-wise, I think Captain Marvel has more potential power, but since Thor’s god level power is natural he wouldn’t just die from using his max power.
@@5lim.0 Captain marvel has already reached her potential by endgame. But Thor has an infinite potential because he is immortal and the older Asgardians like Thor get, the stronger they become. Thor has a practical infinity potential.
I don't think Carol really comes close to Thors power, even when she goes at him at full power he says he actually felt that one and looking at his style he wasn't really trying to hurt Carol.
@@queeniis.5458 I'm fairly sure that whenever she gains an aura and her eyes light up, that's what the MCU considers to be her binary form (which she used after absorbing that lightning blast, for example).
@@hollandscottthomas no they explicitly stated that they were going to that desert so she could use her full power. That's where she hit Thor when he said it hurt.
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If I remember correctly in the 616-MCU Universe mentioned Odin took Loki an he was smallest of Giants and helpless during the war and took him in since he probably wouldn’t survive and seems the defect would make him weak compared to the others.
Maybe in the this universe he didn’t have this handicap. But yeah I think that was said in Thor 1.
Here’s the link to what I refer to.
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@@NerdMacVideos he's still smaller than the other giants
Rocket Raccoon in the sink "hungover" is clearly a reference to "The Hangover" starring Bradley Cooper
nice catch!
Brilliant. Also found the pineapple shirt real-life Taika somewhere.
Ow shit!
There were a lot of fun references to other properties in this one.
I was hoping someone caught that too! Like how the shot of Jane walking over everyone is like Stu’s wife doing the same thing
I think if Hela had showed up in this universe, she would have had to give up her plans of conquering Asgard, or risk being called a party pooper by Thor.
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Explains Surtur’s appearance in this episode
She's having a party in Hell.
@@ChocolatecatGP correction hel
@@Gundam_JAY damn autocorrect
Been a fan of the show for a long time, but that Corey Worthington reference just cemented you to as some of my favorite youtubers/podcasters
Just giving the fans what they want (Corey Worthington)
@@mrsundaymovies Well your comment just made my day so thanks for that! I always tell my wife that you guys have the same joke style as me, but better because your Australian lol. Love you guys!
@@mrsundaymovies In the words of Captain America: "I get that reference!" (Even though I'm American)
@@mrsundaymovies ... Thorey Worthyngton?
@@avahartwell3985 Bro 🤣🤣 I just fucking lost it 😂😂
That's quite the glow-up from the comics. I remember her hitting Hulk as hard as she could, but he just smiled and said "Do you feel better now?" before punching her into space
She has always been under Thor and hulk according to marvels official power scale which is available online and updated occasionally.
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Is this it? lol
@@TheAwesomedude399 I think she did match them when she became Binary. But yeah, regular Ms. Marvel was always weaker than Hulk.
@@dingle2987 What do you mean by Binary?
MCU Hulk is also way weaker than the Hulk in comics. I think her displayed power level in THIS series is pretty accurate and fair. Thor still won and it wasnt even Thor at his best
The answer to the big question is this: The moment of divergence of this "What If..?" is not Odin returning Loki to his parents. It is that, in this reality, Loki was born the right size. Remember, Loki's real father throws him away BECAUSE of his size. So, in this reality, he was born "normal", so Odin did not see any reason for keeping him.
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About Loki, changing his form was like the first thing Odin did when he went "oh, free baby, neat"
Is that a Dorkly reference
@@TupocalypseShakur You know it.
Did Odin do it? It happened on screen and it seemed like it was Loki's powers just instinctively taking that form
@@LordMooshroom adaptive camouflage/gods being able to self actualize.
@@LordMooshroom Odin did it, though the spell falters when he comes into contact with yotun stuff
In answer to Mason's question about Loki's size, Loki is a shape shifter so I always just assumed Loki was subconsciously making himself Asgardian. You can also see that Loki is still smaller than the other frost giants
An explanation i see a lot is that Odin placed a charm on him to maintain his non blue appearance
Then shouldn't he have reverted back to frost giant loki in the TVA? magic is supposed to not work there.
Believe it was a charm by Odin and maybe his witch mother Frey
I like the theory that when Odin found baby Loki, they imprinted on each other and Loki subconsciously took a form similar to Hela (remember all the jokes when Ragnarok came out about how Thor looks like the adopted sibling of the 3?). Then maybe Odin or Frigga put a charm on baby Loki to keep the form.
Well one thing I think I remember in the film, Loki was essentially casted out because he was a runt for a frost giant. Which is why he stays small. As for the skin, I assume it was just due to magic and Frigga taught him more magic to shapeshift
The Watcher's reaction at the end was hilarious. He's finally looking at a reality where it doesn't go to shit and BOOOM Ultron and he's like wait whaaat?
It marked an important split in the show. Before that point, The Watcher always spoke from a position of surety about the events to come. Almost as if he knew what was next, however that surprised him, and that means there's some level of randomness going on. Which would match up well with what went on in the Loki show.
Thinking about it now I'm not sure why they didn't just give Darcy glasses, she wears them in the movies anyways.
@Clio i didnt even notice
Harder to animate.
@Clio at first I didn't recognise her. Hell, I had kinda forgot her by the time of Wandavision. If not for that I wouldn't remember the glasses or her.
And her almost signature red lipstick
Cant wait to watch this breakdown, hope there's an obscure Melbourne reference within the first 45s
This video is already up though. It's what you're commenting on.
@@TSWaves1 holy shit really?
The dude is from Melbourne sure but every Australian old enough to watch television at the time knows who that legend is.
@@BigFatCock0 lol I'm in Ireland Ireland and even I know who he is 😂
Keep in mind that visions original body was made by Ultron for himself, so this version is prob just the version he was planning on making, without jarvis ever being put into that body
This definitely seems like the version from the next Black Widow episode. Based on Endgame they have to work in various timelines, but potentially not various dimensions?
So tony probably died
I watched this episode and I stopped paying attention towards the end, so I completely missed the Ultron appearance. It was a fun silly episode, but I was zoning out, by the end of it.
Ultron was made from the intelligence housed in the mind gem + Jarvis though so without Jarvis, Vision wouldn’t sound like Paul Bettany
Yep yep
This episode didn’t make a lot of sense, but it did make me laugh. Even the fight between Thor and Danvers, which was very well executed, was comical. Thor having to clean up the world, because his mom was coming? Priceless. To the naysayers, an anthology series cannot just be doom and gloom-lighten up.
EXACTLY. Sometimes we just have to laugh. That's what the episode is all about.
Not my favorite but it had its funny moments
After zombies, the ignition of war and universal collapse… a world wide rager was the levity we needed.
@@ericaugust1501 and the many ppl that write and read fan fiction love this episode
Completely agree
This one felt the most cartoonish of them all. I loved Chris Hemsworth’s performance in this and that they didn’t destroy the Opera House or the Harbour Bridge! Looking forward to what happens with the Infinity Stone Vision Ultron.
It did not disappoint
It was basically an episode of Saved By the Bell
I like that ultrons new armour has a face plate that flips up and reveals his actual face just like Iron Man's suit. He does take after his old man
Another classic Heimdall role, this franchise continues to impress with it's excellent use of Idris Elba... wait...
He recorded his silence over the phone apparently
Can’t believe he’s going to be be knuckles, the best of them, stonger then leather, unlike sonic he doesn’t chuckle
Good. Screw that ingrate! Ingrate Elba, I call him.
The reason is becauseIdras elba has always hated this role . Once stating “I’ve played kings in Shakespeares plays and now I’m a marvel “.
He can stick to the Suicide Squad universe... wait...
Had a lot of fun with this episode, maybe because it was so lighthearted. I've enjoyed the whole series so far, but this one just hit a little different for me and might be my favorite of the bunch. In regards to telling Darcy and Jane apart, Jane was missing Natalie Portman's mole on her left cheek, something that is faithfully recreated in Star Wars animations, and I was so disappointed it didn't show up in this show. That's how you know it's Natalie Portman! We need the beauty mark!
This episode and the evil Dr. Strange one were great, both showed potential of what this series could be down the line I think. I hope it leans more into the Twilight Zone vibes of the Strange one, or at least the comedy animated series vibes of this one.
They did that shit with Rachel McAdams too, her character model just looked like a generic woman
Jane is also skinnier, slightly shorter. Has a slightly different eye shape. Pointier chin, and a smaller nose. If anything, Darcy looks too idealized. In real life, her actor is thicker, and she has a broader chin and bigger hooked nose.
@@dingle2987 Are you telling me Kat Dennings isn't the ideal woman?
@@ryankunst668 Kat Dennings is nothing compared to Natalie Portman.
This would have been a perfect episode to introduce Marvel’s Hercules to show him parting with Thor.
nah they gotta save the introductions for live action
@@jumboboomvideos I know, but it still would have been a great Easter egg to have Hercules in the crowd.
I would prefer him to Marvell
*Hyperion
Not as an introduction, but if he already existed he would definitely fit right into this episode. I heard he might show up in Love and Thunder though
The video editing on this is stunning! and that Cut between Mjolnir flying towards Marvel and then Thor catching Stormbreaker by Marvel, my my, *chef's kiss*
The clip at 20:14 of Vision after James says “the goat that Thor rides” had me ROLLING
Corn of Coblin at the end with all the infinity stones is CRAZY, we need more corn of Coblin appearances in what if
Corn of Coblin of course being controlled by Mephisto, who is played by John Krasinski
Corn of Coblin can't appear too often though, since he's the big bad of the entire Marvel multiverse, so they're saving most of his screen time for the final conflict.
Go away, no.
Y'all really only know one joke each, huh
Fun fact, Gregg Clark Clark Gregg’s real name is actually Robert Clark Gregg… Jr. which mean he has not one, not two, but THREE first names.
@@jj3665 unless jr is applied in like a mathematical sense, in which case that’s like 6 full first names!
(Yeah, okay; I’ll see myself out..)
The “Jr” in his name actually stands for Jeremy, so that’s an extra first name.
I think frost Giants are supposed to be in a cold environment, so Loki growing up in Asgard probably significantly stunted his growth.
Odin casted a spell on Loki so he would have Asgardian Physiology
@@cultofpersonaliity69 I dont think so
@@samo4648 he did the spell was broken when he touched the tesseract in the first thor and its like that in the comics most the time
@@oracle6379 not the teseract
In Thor Odin said that Loki was small for a frost giant offspring so maybe that had something to do with it.
That scene when Thor and CM are going at it in the clouds and both their powers are creating a thunderstorm was some of the most beautiful animation I've seen whether you're talking about animation or anime. Heck I'd even say it's up there with some live action shots that have been done
I'm assuming you've never seen the Hulk vs Absorbing Man fight from Hulk (2003).
The watcher going "Wait what?" at the end of the episode might be the funniest thing in this series.
Remember how Bradley Cooper was in The Hangover, and they all wake up in the hotel room? I wonder if putting Rocket in there passed out was an homage to that.
Definitely got Hangover vibes
Woah
The most amazing part of this episode is that we all leaned the blacklist is still going on
Right? HOW LONG IS THAT LIST?
What blacklist?
Ultron: Red Reddington become fully merged with AI
It’s more a black google docs than list at this point
I want to see this version of Loki in the next ‘Loki’ series, seems like he’d be fun to be around.
Agreed, he’d be great in Loki season 2!
I'd like to see Frost Giant Loki do "Get Help" with Thor.
canonicaly this is what loki should look like. Even if he did get adopted by odin
@@TylerSmith-sd2oc its more of an shapeshifting thing
He grew up as asgardian in the original so he shapeshifted like one
Here he was raised by frost giants hence he looks like a frost giant
@@joshbrosh6626 i forgot he can shapeshift ngl lmao
That editing transition from animated Thor to live action Thor catching Storm Breaker was smooth af
Don't think you can just sneak Corn of Coblin in without anyone noticing, he's the mascot of the channel.
Creepy pasta nostalgia critic
@@CoolBackPackk haha funny scream
The hero we need
I believe why Himdel didn’t speak with Thor is probably because he doesn’t see him as a king, unlike the original
Or probably they just couldn't get Idris Elba back
@@R_A120 I can make a mean Idris Elba impression and I'm a bit cheaper than Idris Elba as well
I do assume Heimdall and Thor just aren't as close in this universe, for some reason related to Loki's absence.
@@stranger59 perhaps with Loki not torturing Thor all the time, Heimdall never really sympathizes with this party animal/spoiled prince who hasn't had to struggle in life. So they just never click
Yeah I'm betting he didn't speak because they couldn't get Idris Elba. The dude didn't speak at all in this whole episode. Then again, I really don't understand how they can have other characters who are way more important than Heimdall have other voice actors but for some reason didn't give Heimdall a voice actor.
My condolences to everyone who watched this episode who lives in North or South Dakota
Thank you.
not because of the content of the episode, just because you live there
It’s fine. No one lives in north or South Dakota
As a current Minnesotan, they can go take a hike.
My condolences to anyone who had watched this series
Nice to see just random Cosmic characters out of nowhere, Mantis doesn't seem the sort to go party on her own but sure as shit she'll head to Sydney
I think it's safe to say that this episode takes place a few years later than Thor in the mcu.
This episode was a good bit of daft fun. Every party scene reminded me of the Mos Eisley cantina from LEGO Star Wars, where you had villains and heroes from across the generations just having a good time together.
Darcy wears a beanie for most of the movies, why couldn't they animate that in to help differentiate!
What if beanies don't exist in this timeline :0
I don't know about anybody else, but Darcy and Jane looked different to me.
@@tasha7726 A lot characters looked off model despite having their original actors reprise their role. Rachel McAdams’ character from the Strange episode looked nothing like her, for example 🤷♂️
I had seen an article that the shows producer didn’t watch marvel all that much and admitted she has some small continuity errors. Props to her did being honest tho
My theory is in the final episode Neo will show up and say to Ultron "I'm about to do a matrix on you" and then does an awesome kick
and then LeBron teleports in, says “what in the Matrix hell?” And throws a basketball at Ultron.
I thought that aswell, but then Thor doesn't really tap into his full potential until Ragnarok and afterwards, whereas CM can hit her max right out the bat.
Yes. Thor with Odinforce is on another level than Thor without it
@@TonyKalashnikov Don't worry, Thor will gain the Odin force in Thor love and thunder hopefully and he will become the most powerful and strongest avenger. Look what this weak party Thor could do to captain marvel, imagine Ragnarok Thor kicking captain marvel's ass.
If only he aimed for the head
@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 captain marvel didnt use her full power lmao nobody can say whos stronger besides marvel but they choose not to
@@rey6708 Lmao Thor didn't use his full power either. In fact he thought the fight was a joke.
Frigga used her dark magic to make Loki look Asgardian. Thats also the reason for his mischievious nature. Without Friggas dark magic he is a jolly frost giant.
Is that a fact?
Loki transformed when Odin picked him up tho
@@5lim.0 this guy is wrong, he was Asgardian when Odin touched him because of the magic of the odinforce. Yes, Odin is also a magic user like Frigga
Holy crap, right wrong? Its mythology in a comic book......you do know i sent this as a joke "Jolly Frost Giant"
@@lewas77 I literally had no idea if you were joking about the first half or not, thanks for clarifying lol
Odin enchanted Loki when he was a baby so that he’d look Asgardian, that’s why his skin goes from blue to a more human color. Frigga more than likely taught her husband sorcery like she did Loki.
Or Frigga did it, and Odin took credit.
Sounds like something he'd do.
@MelloWattz Yes, in Odins narration. WHICH he know he lies about because of Ragnarok. He's an unreliable narrator and lies about his past.
Odin is vastly more powerful than Frigga. He knows plenty of sorcery on his own merit.
In Sagas Odin spent time in on Earth as a woman practicing seiðr, a form of magic typically associated with women. It was considered unmanly, although some men practiced it too. Freyja had introduced seiðr to the Æsir and taught it to Odin.
In Lokasenna, Loki enters the party, pissed off for the receprion, and starts trading insults with other gods. Odin accused him of spending 8 years on Earth as a woman, milking cows and giving birth to children, to which Loki replies what Odin himself spent time on Earth as a woman practicing magic, knocking at houses as a fortune teller.
Everyone here thinking Odin is some super power god of everything like Zeus.
Damn people need to look at some of the norse mythos to see how weak this dude actually was even compared to the rest of the gods.
17:00 "The Watcher was like 'Hey, what the heck?'" with perfect lip synchronization! LOL
That transition at 8:25 is just perfection
Well done Collings 👌🏻
Corey Worthington is a world wide reference. We all know about his party. We are all upset his parents didn't go on holiday for the last year and a half
I don't know who Corey Worthington is, but I do know about those famous sunglasses
I remember who he was because the movie Project X is based on his party and that movie inspired so many big parties back when I was in high school
It’s so weird with the likeness because Clone Wars nailed it with Natalie Portman likeness
It maybe be difference in art style
Did they tho..? Not really
If Natalie Portman was a Thunderbirds puppet.
Was she the one who voiced Padme in the clone wars though? Also I wish her important scene in RotS never got deleted
I see your corn of coblin reference, and it never fails to get a chuckle from me 😂
I was surprised to hear Clancy Brown as Surtur in the movie, double surprised he came back for this episode just to flirt with the Statue of Liberty. Always good to hear Clancy Brown.
Hes also my favorite Lex Luthor.
I'm really hoping James Spader does do the voice. I'm a big fan of his work.
I’ve heard as a person he’s a bit of a tough cookie irl- Paul bettany’s a cool dude- he’s probably taking the vocal duties
@@FilmKiln Wouldn't make any sense for Bettany to do it
@@LordMooshroom it’s vision in an ultron armour. So using vision’s voice would be easier as Paul bettary has already came back. Likely he will do the voice as getting James spader but be too expensive
@@chriscostanza8873 Except he is only the voice of vision after Jarvis is put in the body.
@@LordMooshroom I guess it's the universe where Ultron has Jarvis' voice from the start
Gonna throw this crazy thought into the What If equation = WHAT IF...we're seeing all these variant timelines throughout this series as a result of the end of Loki (I don't think many people haven't already thought about that). With the fabric of time, space, reality, etc. literally breaking/cracking do you think the 'rules' are falling apart as well?
What I mean by that is, say the Infinity Stones followed the same rule as the comics; NOT working in another universe but ONLY working in the universe the stones are from. Since everything is kind of breaking apart while 'merging' together or at the very least crossing over from one universe to the next could that mean the stones this Ultron/Vision has on its body would work in other universes as well?
OR all of this is me overthinking and the MCU will just have the stones work pretty much anywhere unless they are in some sort of area that nullifies magic and other forms of power like the T.V.A. base of operations.
Its possible. I think that could be shown at the end of the show with the universes merging. So far we see that the universes are in a bubble and dont really connect. I think with the final 2 episodes we could see the timelines collide and have some connections to loki.
I was thinking the same thing lol
The MCU doesn't seem to adhere to the "stones only work in their origin universe" rule. All the stones in Endgame were from different timelines/universes and worked fine.
Unless I'm mistaken, Kang's concern wasn't that the universes or their laws would break down, he was concerned that they would cause another inter universal war, which Ultron seems to be doing, but the timeline branching doesn't seem to have any adverse effects on its own.
It's most likely rele. They Said what if is canon
The way I see it... I think theres a differences between timelines and universes.
Remember in loki how Kang explained how all of the universes were stacked on top of each other? And that branches from each universe broke off and seemed to cross with other branches and then there was a multiversal war... until kang started pruning each branch to keep the other universes from branching into his "sacred timeline"
I could be wrong, I fully admit I'm an idiot. But I see these as branches on the MCU universe, and not completely separate universes. So the timelines branching off of the same universe may allow use of the same stones, whereas if they cross over with say... earth 616 or the noir universe they probably wouldn't work there since those are completely separate universes with no shared DNA.
Kang didn't wipe out every other universe, just followed some of the loose ends to nearby ones, destroyed them, and created enough space between the MCU and the others that none of their branches would grow far enough to touch his. And now that he's gone, some of the branches will start getting close enough to intertwine with other universes which is probably how it's possible to meet Garfield and Maguire in No Way Home.
People are speculating that since Fury and SHIELD is messing with Thor, they didn’t play the part that was needed for Tony to cure himself from the poisoning that was coming from his arc reactor.
I mean Natasha wasn’t seen around partying with Thor so she must still be helping Tony out
I'm pretty sure Shield can multitask
Maso you are so right about the black mirror thing. This was like a fun, light hearted break and I kinda loved.
Maybe in this Ultron's universe, he was able to complete his Vision. As he tried to do in Age of Ultron. This is how he completed his mission
3:28 The intro, like the first 5 minutes, of the first Thor Movie explains why Loki looks like an Asgardian rather than a Frost Giant. When Odin finds Loki, he touches Loki's face and it turns from Blue to Caucasian. Loki looks like an Asgardian because Odin used the Odinforce to make him look Asgardian.
I was less distracted about why the Frost Giant prince looked like a Frost Giant as I was wondering why the fuck he was still called Loki.
@@Taurusus good point
@@Taurusus This
@Jon Valler You care about this way too much.
@Jon Valler You can managed to read a wikipedia article a while back and now you think that knowing the historical context of the term Caucasian makes you a genius. Caucasian is the term used in Modern English to refer to white people. Drivers Licenses, Passports, Census, Application to College... Yes congrats, you took grade 10 social studies and learned that Caucasian initially referred to people from the Caucasus regions. You didn't school me, your comment was dumb. You aren't the only one that went to high school. White people is a stupid ass distinction, white people are actually pinkish beige. Tom Hiddleston is Pinkish Beige. Are you Happy now?
18:45 I was under the impression that she was too into reading her book to even see it.
Captain Marvel and Thor punch for bit and then they’re mates.
I think Odin did put an enchantment on him from the beginning but I think his size is because he was left starving and due to a lack of nourishment was small (in the movie I think Odin makes comment on his size)
So had Loki been given back to Laufey then I think maybe he took better care of him and he was able to grow and he was also raised on Jötunheimr so maybe being in the icy environment allowed him to grow
8:24 Can we talk about how CLEAN that edit was?
It was awesome, glad to see someone else appreciating it.
For some reason I feel like Party Thor would solve the problem of Hela easier. She’d be like “We need to kill and take over the realms!” And he’d just say, “Yeah, but why?” And she’d be wildly taken aback and realise the fun of hanging out with those realms would be better than conquering them?
M.O.D.O.K. was such a fun show!! So happy to hear Mason was into aswell. I really hope it gets a second season, would love to keep watching it.
In the words of Captain America: "I get that reference!" Well worth googling party-boy Cory Worthington's interview.
Understand. I understand that reference.
I just wanna say, Collins (Colleens?) edit of the animated mjolnir passing Capt Marvels head transitioning into live action storm breaker passing her head was the SMOOTHEST I’ve ever seen 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
You're the hero for this mate, thank you!
I understood that reference!! As an old man (45) living in Australia, you just made my day. Idk why I'm not subscribed, fixing that right away. Love your content guys, keep up the good work
Welcome aboard and thanks for the encouragement!
@@mrsundaymovies Holy crap, thankyou for your reply!! I'm ecstatic to even be noticed. You've made my day, again 🍻 cheers
Isn’t Captain Marvel’s whole schtick that she absorbes ambient energy?. The reason she was able to hold Thanos in a vice was because she was absorbing energy from the infinity gauntlet and the reason she was able to destroy his ship was because she absorbed the energy of the ships cannons firing at her. Basically she’s only as powerful as her surroundings allow her to be.
That is such a good explanation.
That might have partially fixed that character for me.
Yeah, I actually like her characterization here much better than in her film. It’s all in the writing for me, AND I think they did better with her powers as well here
@@Inuheishi Ikr that why I dont even care about who is more powerful she is way better in this epie
ive always thought she was just the mutant Bishop **times like, a hundred**
We will never know if she is stronger than Thor. We never get to see the BOTH of them really let loose and fight. The fight in this episode implied that they're more like rough housing, rather than fighting.
Yeah if you ignore the last 10 minutes of the episode where Captain Marvel was going to kill Thor.
@@blyzer7373 wouldn’t of killed him lol. Takes alot more than that to kill Thor. Thor had her pinned and if he really wanted to could of killed her but he wasn’t trying to fight 🤷♂️
Lmao, can't you see Thor are just messing around.. He is not even serious
@@magmablaster8955 "could of" lol
We literally were told she is going to kill him. If it wasn't such a big deal then the episode itself wouldn't threat it as a big deal.
I cant imagine MCU Thor splitting a planet with a punch.
I'm just happy that there was room for a Corn Of Coblin cameo in this video!
12:11
The dice rolls a seven when James says episode 7
Great work
Episode walked right past a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for a Slurms McKenzie easter egg. One brief shot of a giant slug with bloodshot eyes holding a soda can, and you'd have earned the remainder of my dwindling millennial cachet.
As a local, I’m loving the local references. Keep it up (definitely more Corey Worthington)
i lost it when frigga rocks up and everyone is just sitting there listening to thor do a lecture
reminds me of when i was 16 i was at a house party with like 60 people and the cops showed up to shut the party down and we all turned the music off and put the footy on the TV and sat on the floor in the loungeroom like all 60 of us and the cops walked in and just looked at us all and shook their heads while we were all acting innocent hiding our drinks behind our backs
nice story, except the cops can't just walk in your house without a warrant...
And then everybody clapped.
Nice fake story bro
Yeah no, that’s cringe and parties like that are lame
For some reason the parents of the girl who's party it was let them in, idc if you believe me or not it was like 14 years ago anyways
The way i interpreted Loki being big and blue was that since he's a shapeshifter he can look like anything he wants
From the scene that you also showed, I always just assumed that Odin initially cast a spell that made Loki look human, and then once Loki grew up it was a conscious choice that he himself manifests based on what he believes. I say that remembering the scene where he makes his own skin blue, but retains the smaller size.
18:30 I seriously thought that might be a reference to TAHITI that is a serious stretchy though
Quick note that in this universe, Mjolnir does not have a “worthy” enchantment on it, as it only is given by Odin when Thor is cast out, which doesn’t happen here since Loki isn’t around to stop Thor’s coronation
Then why couldn’t Captain Marvel pick it up?
Read the comics. The enchantment has been in the hammer ever since Thor was still a child. He initially couldn't lift it, he had to undergo several challenges and adventures before he proved his worthiness. I know that's comics, this is the MCU, but Marvel Studios took their cues from the comics. In the Thor movie, there was already an enchantment on mjolnir even before Thor's attack on Jotunheim. What Odin did was to strip Thor of his powers and immortality, and made him human. He will not regain his powers and godhood until he proves himself worthy to wield Mjolnir again. When he heard about the "satellite" that no one could lift, he knew that it was actually Mjolnir, because supposedly only he and Odin could lift it.
Odin already had an enchantment that only Thor could hold it so that's why carol Danvers couldn't pick it up... because she wasn't thor. In the first Thor movie Odin puts A SECOND enchantment so that WHOEVER(not just Thor) is worthy can pick it up, even then captain marvel isn't worthy enough.
@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08
I thought Mjolnir had the enchant written on it.
@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 if that was the case I remember Loki being super surprised that he couldn’t lift Thor’s hammer in the first Thor, but if it was already enchanted why would he even bother trying to lift it?
Thor without a beard hurts my brain
I knew there was something wrong with that Thor!
It's blursed.
Fan Theory: What if Vision/Ultron is collecting all the bad guys from these realities to make the Masters of Evil? Just a thought
That'd be cool, though with the infinity stones and infinity clones, Vistron probably wouldn't need them
You hit it when you answered Mason’s question with his mother having a hand in it. The first couple of movies, the fancy one and the dark awful one, state Loki was taught magic by Frigga and that is how he can manipulate his illusions which is how he appears to everyone else. Loki found it useful because it allowed for him to manipulate Thor. I thought something similar when with that women on the beach. First I thought it was a nod to Tahiti, and also I tried to see who it was but there wasn’t enough of the face but then I thought who would not react to something like that and also be that tall and my guess is it is Captain Carter decompressing from being torn out of her time, which would place this episode in 2012 btw.
The studio that animated some of these episodes was Flying Bark, which is based in Sydney!
Okay hear me out, The reason the Tesseract was in Norway at the start of First Avenger is apparently (I looked it up) because Odin lost it there during a battle between the Frost Giants and the Asgardians.
In this episode we briefly see that Odin returning the baby Loki to the Frost Giants seems to bring about peace between the two races. So unless the Tesseract had already been lost there's no reason why they would have the battle in Norway meaning Odin would still have the Tesseract.
If the Tesseract is not on earth there is no way that Carol Danvers would have been able to get her powers from it, which means that this episode of what if is paradoxical and may not be possible in terms of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff
I know the theory has a lot of holes I just thought of it and thought it was kind of funny
Best comment on this fucking video
@@damiondunn4663 Agreed cause I thought the same watching this jokey hokey episode.
When Ultron appears at the end of the episode, the Mind Stone in his head was glowing. It also emitted the sound it usually makes when it’s used. So, he’s definitely using them. How they’ll defeat an ultra-smart AI that has infinity power? No clue.
Hashtag multiversal avengers squad
they’ll have doctor strange supreme on their side so there’s a chance
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I like to think Loki looking human was just something he did subconsciously, cause remember he didn't learn he was a frost giant until much later in his life, so it makes sense he'd mimic Odin when he was a baby and just stayed that way cause it's what he's used to.
I don't remember when, probably when he found out that he was a frost giant, but, he Odin says something along the lines of, "even as an infant you were trying to impress me"
Again, I think I remember them saying something like that but, I'm not 100% sure
8:23 that was a smooth edit well done editor
Being from St. Louis, I can't tell you how many times I thought growing up about using the Arch as a sling shot and I'm glad Loki agrees.
It's highly likely Thor was also holding back as well so it's likely they are around evenly matched.
In the comics they're not evenly matched at all. She couldn't even lift his weights lol. MCU nerf Thor for some reason
@@mfagamer843 just to give some spotlight to Captain Marvel , whish was unnecessary and sucked ass
@@mahaveervijayakumaran3955 yup
They are not, Captain Marvel is an overhyped jobber.
@@mfagamer843 big agree, MCU Thor and Hulk get hit with the nerfing stick allthe damn time while Carol Denvers got buffed up by an ridiculous amount. If she ever had any actual popularity as Captain Marvel I wouldn't mind. But as it is, it just feel like the most forced shit ever. Giving Captain Marvel a buff and calling her the strongest avenger will not make people like her. Captain America is far from being the most powerful Avenger, yet the Russo brothers turned him into the most interesting one in the MCU. You can't sell a character on hype and power alone.
The Captain Marvel in this universe seemed more enjoyable and seeing her not one-shot someone was quite refreshing. Added more to her character than the movie
She does seem more likable in this. Her interaction with Darcy, holding up the stone henge and those little stuff make her more relatable and more human. The end with her helping Thor out has some big sister vibes as well. Lots of character work that the movie hasn’t done yet.
I think the MCU just started out portraying her as TOO stoic and stern, now they're doing the work to soften her up and make her more relatable.
I kinda get it though, she was mind-wiped and turned into a soldier for an alien death squad. Probably takes a bit to mellow out from something like that.
My flatmate and I watch every What If episode and as soon as this one ended, we watched the Corey Worthington interview cos we were reminded of it too hahahaha too good
Excellent edit, Mr Collings!
In Thor: The First Thor, Odin says Loki was smaller than a normal Frost Giant, which is why he was left to die -so he's just naturally human size. Either the writers didn't bother to rewarch the movies or in this universe, he wasn't a runt - that being why Loki's real father didn't just disown him.
To be fair, I wouldn't rewatch the first thor either. Definitely not the second.
So basically this episode was actually "What If Loki Wasn't A Runt".
This is a different universe, more than one thing can be different
I have a theory that Odin offered medical help for Loki that helped him grow. A poster on tumblr took screen shots of the scenes where Loki is standing next to the other Frost Giants and he's still shorter than them.
About Loki: I'll go with the environment. We see in the first film, the cold makes his skin go blue. So being constantly exposed to the cold of their home world, makes the skin permanently blue. A bit like how humans get a tan in the sun. Then I guess the giant size is the same deal. Not being exposed to regular cold, stumped his growth.
That was always my though, even in the Thor movie he goes blue when he uses that one weapon from his home world.
I just assumed it's a biological trait since back then. Yeah he was born a runt compared to the other frost Giants, but had he stayed on Jodenheim he would have remained blue, as his body needs to survive in the cold.
I mean it was Thor 1 Thor. And a much less battle tested/warrior based Thor. (Which means he is weaker than the MCU version) And he still pinned her down by the end of their first fight 😂 Current Wanda and Strange still destroy both of them.
Strange and Wanda are more powerful but Thor and captain marvel are stronger and more durable
also, that shouldnt have worked.
this mjolnir doesnt have the enchantment that pins unworthy people down.
@@Batman1998- Fair
@@gamongames I’m pretty sure since he’s still able to utilize the hammers abilities in the episode. The enchantment would still be there. It’d be enchanted if “whoever shall possess this hammer, if they’re worthy, they shall possess the powers of Thor” since he first got the hammer from Odin. It makes sense why she was pinned down
havent you watched Thor Ragnarok or Thor 1?
the powers are his, he's the god of thunder, not the god of hammers.
also, the enchantment is placed the moment Thor is banned in the first film, not when its first acquired by Thor.
no banishment, no enchantment.
Please never stop doing these recap/reviews for literally every MCU Disney + property, it's crazy how incomplete it felt not seeing this after I'd watched the episode and it's only been one day lmao
Actually same, I came straight to TH-cam for this after it ended. This series makes even the shit episodes enjoyable
i don’t have any friends into marvel, so it is nice to just hear two ppl talk about it lol
lol omg the editing here is tier of creation!
The fight scenes in this series need to be adopted by the MCU movies, how they are shot. Longer non-cutting clips of beautifully choreographed action. The Captain Carter montage from episode 1 would’ve been amazing in live action. The scene where Peggy takes out the bomber and fighter plane in flight is a great example.
I suspect it's much harder to do in live action.
I don't remember MCUmovies cutting too much, maybe except some parts of Cap3
@@simonegreco1958 Are you being sarcastic? Tough to tell in written form. Notoriously bad action scenes, cuts for days!
@@jubjub7101 this is literally the first time I heard this complaint and I disagree with it completely. No I wasn’t sarcastic. That’s legitimately the most baffling criticism I have ever heard about the MCU. Cannot think of anything outside of Civil War that would constitute as “cutting too much”
@@jubjub7101 except some moments here and there but never ever anything major
Im just confused on why SHIELD called captain marvel when Thor was throwing a party (a dangerous one, but still a party) but didn’t when earth is directly attacked by aliens under conquest threat
Fury was more hesitant to pull the trigger. He wanted his Avengers team to stand on their own without having to fall back on Cap. Marvel. Maria Hill was pushed into leadership suddenly after Fury was put into a coma and just wanted to end the threat, so of course she used the pager.
You are confused that Shield acted differently in different universes? With 2 different leaders? You don't seem to get the concept of the multiverse. There is probably a universe where Fury used the pager much earlier or another universe where he misplaced the pager and never got it back. This is the multiverse of infinite possibilities
Feige also hinted that maybe fury did use it in avengers but she just didn’t make it in time cause the avengers handled it but I don’t know if that’s credible at all
@@enadegheeghaghe6369 i do get it, but the fun part of a what ifs, at least in the comics, is "if everything was exactly the same EXCEPT for the ramifications of this specific action what would happen?", if you change how other characters might react you kinda are not really doing a "what if", just a different universe story, not quite the same.
Tho now thinking about it there is one major difference between this two universes that would justify calling captain marvel: this what if takes place during the first thor movie time-wise, Hulk is still fairly unknown, Tony Stark is still sick, Barton and Romanoff are probably on missions of their own, and cap is still in the ice... there are NO AVENGERS to call or nobody else that would deal with the asgardians partying, in this case Danvers seems like the first choice to call.
This series is really hitting all the right notes, we go from deeply depressing, nothing but death and despair in one episode, then too a super fun, happy go lucky epic party
Seems women are taking all the competent rolls.
@@JusDion ya every white male character has been turned into either a villain or a bumbling idiot or both while all the female characters have God level powers and can do no wrong and don't even get me started on that episode with t'challa playing space Jesus
Watcher: Oh dear perhaps I spoke too soon.
@@ojpistorius6369 It's not that serious...
@@JusDion you do know at the end of the zombie episode, the only survivors were dudes right? Please just stop talking nonsense
I really like this episode. It’s the only episode to me where nothing productive or life threatening took place. If these episodes were days of the week, this would be Saturday. Chill and laid back.
I feel like that's been all the episodes but 3 lol
I think we'll see the various villains all cross into one another as theorized here. There's a frame in the trailers of Ego using his powers yelling out and we haven't seen all that much of him yet so I'm assuming he comes back for that final episode.
8:25 That was a smooth transition.
10:58 Thank you for pointing out the hypocrisy of those comments.
Howard the duck and Darcy getting married was the best.
The woman on holiday might have been Darcy honeymooning. But it's very hard to tell for some reason.
@@tristanstieber6499 I hope to see that in the MCU I kind of hate how Howard has been in the background I like how what if they use him.
They fought pretty evenly I wouldn't say one was shown to be stronger than the other. Plus they were both holding back.
Edit: I had a feeling you guys wouldn't take the debate that seriously and it was just a title to get people to click. Classic.
This is an actual conversation that needs to happen though. The MCU has nerfed a lot of characters into the ground, while with others they start at the peak of what they're able to do in comics. It makes little to no sense.
Also the continent punch is something from the comics. I vaguely remember it being Carol Danvers and the Hulk who do it to each other.
@@darksaint0124 it's also a series that's included zombies, Dr strange sucking up another docter strange and also did I mention zombies? It's What if, who cares lmao
also captain marvel caught thor off guard both times. I think infinity war thor would easily beat captain marvel since he almost took out an army and the ships and cut thanos's head even after thanos having all the infinity stones
@@TheAakeeb93 - MCU-wise, I think Captain Marvel has more potential power, but since Thor’s god level power is natural he wouldn’t just die from using his max power.
@@5lim.0 Captain marvel has already reached her potential by endgame. But Thor has an infinite potential because he is immortal and the older Asgardians like Thor get, the stronger they become. Thor has a practical infinity potential.
I don't think Carol really comes close to Thors power, even when she goes at him at full power he says he actually felt that one and looking at his style he wasn't really trying to hurt Carol.
What makes you think that was full power?
Are you aware Carol can still go binary, a power up beyond her already powerful cosmic powers?😌
@@queeniis.5458 I'm fairly sure that whenever she gains an aura and her eyes light up, that's what the MCU considers to be her binary form (which she used after absorbing that lightning blast, for example).
Nah, she was pretty explicit that she was holding back because she knew letting loose would be a planet-destroying event.
@@hollandscottthomas no they explicitly stated that they were going to that desert so she could use her full power. That's where she hit Thor when he said it hurt.
“That woman” looks like Carmen San Diego!
editing in this video is on point
Cheers double P!