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Well, the chance to get a legendary is 8.5 % (with Mercy system) so out of 314 shards, you should get around 27 legendaries. There are around 180 legendaries, and 25x means that the chance of getting Duchess would be 25/(180+25)= 12.2 %. So therefore, around every 8th legendary champion you get should be a Duchess. Therefore, getting 3 Duchesses out of this amount of shards is the most likely outcome. But if you then factor in that the event starts with a 15x chance, and that you can't pull the same legendaries back to back, it makes it more unlikely to get 3 Duchesses out of this amount of shards. Don't know exactly how to calculate that, but my feeling would be that the likelihood of getting 3 Duchesses is still higher than getting 2, but not by too much. So in conclusion, if you gave me that amount of shards and told me beforehand how many Duchesses I would expect, I'd have said 2-3.
The only time it’s good is if there’s 3 active legos you have to have selected and you need/want all 3. Chance of getting 1 of those 3 is like 22% but individually still only like 7.3% at 25x. Can’t remember if it was Scratch or Nubs that broke down the math
Maybe a x100. Each month they add multiple new legos. The pool vets larger and larger we need a more solid way to collect certain champs. Like tormin event or something every month.@@antoineone1391
You taught me a valuable lesson here HH, no matter how much money I pour into this game, I will not get what I want, so I should stop. Let this be a warning to all.
No H8 , just admiration at the shear number of sacreds and the dream +1 . Value wise thats got to = close to $4 000 in sacreds (I know he did not buy them all ) but everytime I pull a sacred from CB I tell myself its $15 in my pocket
What game are you playing? Sacreds rarely go that low, 20-25$ is the more common rate specially if you were trying to get 300+. I’d say it’s closer to 6-7K real world value to buy.
What is really upsetting is you pulled the same number of copies of Rotos and Tower as you did Duchess. 😅 25x was never going to cut it. I'd love to know what number you would've had to pull to get four copies at 25x. Well over 700 shards for not even enough to build a single +4, and that's why there isn't a viable PVP competition in the game anymore for a non-Krackens. At least Sintranos has gone well so far!
There’s a lot more gear factor going into top tier PvP than saying a +4 Duchess beats a +2 team everyday. It helps along with getting god tier gear rolls on the correct set but certainly isn’t the overall deciding factor.
It's RNG. What don't you get about that? There is no hard number that you have to pull to get something. You could theoretically pull just three shards and get two of the same legendary for your first and third shard. It's just that there are small chances of that. Similarly, you could pull three hundred shards and get none. The chances of getting the outcome he did are not extraordinary at all. This is like being amazed that you flipped heads four times out of ten flips rather than five. Both of those outcomes are very likely. Statistically speaking he was most likely to get 2-3 copies. He got 2.
It's R.I.P. because odds exist and they don't always favor people? This was a normal outcome for that many shards with the chances being what they are.
I'm glad the B.S. of the shard pulling in the game has been brought to light. The dupes i can say for myself is sickening and getting slowed down or stuck because of needing a particular few champs, and the game just gives a big middle finger.
Holy dude I just fought your classic arena team yesterday and you stomped me in the dust. I felt embarrassed but also excited for having found your team on the classic arena.
x100 would probably give you around a 35% chance or more. There are under 200 non void leggos, I think around 180. With x100 it would mean you have 101/280 or something like that. But this game is not supposed to give you this kind of odds. It is a gambling game in the end. It is painful though. Imagine I had to pull 23 sacreds for my next to last leggo and 24 now for my last leggo. So 2 leggos, deep in mercy, from 47 sacreds. This game really isn't for the not lucky or non-gamblers.
I did 372 sacreds back then with StewGaming (can't seem to find the video on TH-cam or Twitch anymore). We pulled around 150-170 sacreds and got 2-3 Duchess. It was during a 2x combined with a 10x shard pull event. I think it was not wise to pull in this Progressive event. He should have waited for a 2x combined with a 15x-25x Progressive event which will happen very soon.
Yeah I don’t buy the “saving”. When he just flashed over how many legos he has in 2 years of saving there’s very low odds I’d believe he did that with just ancients that he got for free. That or he buys ancients along with the voids and not sacreds.
i think that was actually very good pull for that many odds for the 25x. You got nearly 10 percent pull rate for gold, and some decent champs. Given all the legos 2 out of 27 gold being the one you want is not bad IMO. Better pull rate for legos than I've ever managed :) Congrats! I use champfort in my IT 15 team.
I feel special that I was able to get Harima on her recent x25. I got up to x20 and was around 30 sacreds, got her with 4 shards left. I got so lucky, I’m stoked, she was my most wanted.
haha me on the other hand had some insane luck this time around, i was going to pull all my sacreds to get duchess, but i pulled my 2 primals first and got her on the 2nd one xD! i just used up all my luck for the next few years though lol.
The goal was PvP Champs out of 300+ pulls, got 27 gold's 3 pair of doublets champs (7 Champs I would recommend for myself) 2 out 4 completion rate of the set end goal. With a +25% chance of getting the gold you wanted and you only got 2. You are a real one for science. Uncle wheal thank you. No more then 8 unless its a guaranteed pull event.
From the same shard type you cannot pull the same lego back to back. However you can from different shard types. I believe it was Saph that did a video on it.
This is sick, if you have 28 legos, and 25% chance that legos to be Dutchess, people would expect there will be at least 7 Dutchess, or 1/4 of totall number, based on their linear undestanding of math. But we all know math never get it wrong, and this is Raid :) Because probability math is soemthing totally differant than math of certainities... So you actually have 75% chance not to get what you want all 314 times you pulled, nothing is actually cumulative. Chance (probability) math come "close to be accurate" and so also usefull only on big numbers (and that means numbers with a lot of zeros, like 300 billions), and on low micronumbers (like in this case 300 hundreds), it is actually unusable and without any meaning. So when Raid tells you have 25% chance to get Dutchess if you pull 1 lego, they are lying you, and they know very well that in probabillity math low numbers tries brings you usually 0 results. I done quick math here and that is about that with 300 sacreds, to get 4 Dutchess for sure (close to 100% sure, and with rate that you pull lego every 20 shards - I had to fix that value, but you see, this also can fail), you actually need to pull 900-1000 sacreds... so about 250 to get 1 for sure, 100% certain. By that probability math that counts certainity (not just probable chance), you actually was lucky to pull second one, so you actually did bring a litlle mojo of yours, but I wouldn't hire you for lotery ever :)
I have no idea why they don't just make them a 50x. The 25x is definitely an improvement from the crappy 10x events, but cmon...2 copies from 320 is such a joke.
I pulled 1070 ancients for this 25x Dutchess, I pulled 8 leggos with 6 being dupes and no Dutchess so I really think it is weighted in the software to make sure you don't pull what you want. I mean look at how many Creodans you pulled. It was practically every 3rd epic.
I pulled 147 primals on a 2% chance for legos and after 7 legendary pulls my 8th was Dutchess. So I definitely got very lucky getting 8 legendaries for 147 primals
is the no back to back thing a sacred rule? I pulled 2 lord shazzars in the same weekend with no gold between them, but I think it was during a 2x ancient shard and it was a long time ago. But it was definitely of the same legendary in a row, but I pulled rares and epics in between them.
I actually use Champfort as my solo scarab king champ, since I was having horrendous luck with Bloodshield artifacts. Honestly, he does his job really well, also helped me beat FW for Bannerlords. And I used to run him in my secondary Hydra team, but now I have more champs that can place decrease speed, so he has slightly fallen off there. Still, I think he's pretty underrated
The most I ever pulled was about 30 as well. I do not recall any more than 2 lego dupes coming from that. The reason I pulled them was for a guaranteed champ event, I think it may have been Gnut.
Videos like these comfort me in my f2p approach of this casino game. What's the cost of a yellow shard ? 15euros ? This man just spent 2 months of my country's average salary (Belgium).
I pulled the one shard from the Tormin event, ironically didn't get the x15 for Duchess but got Wythir instead, and I'm happy with that because I do not have any good Demonspawn supports for Faction wars.
I would say wishing for 4 Duchess is just wishing. First of all. you have first 6% to pull a Legendary, then after that its a +25% chance... so as he said, if every legendary is weighted the same 1/100.. and dutchess have a 25/100 weight. you still have only 6% to pull a Legendary. 25% of 6% is 1,5% chanse to pull a duchess... so with that in mind, 2 duchess on 300 pulls make sense.
If the chances were what you said, he would have gotten 4 duchesses. 6% with 300 shards means 18 leggos. 25% from 18 mean more than 1 in 4, even with 1 in 4 it would mean 4 duchess from 16. But accounting for mercy, the chance for a leggo from a sacred is around 8.2, or something similar. And we can see he got 27 leggos anyway. 25x is pretty painful as it doesn't give you a 25% chance, it add 25 duchesses to the pull of legendary heroes and those are your odds. So if there's 180 leggos (there are a little less but to simplify it) you have a 26/205 chance to get duchess which is 12.68 %. This means on average you would get 3.42 duchesses. If the rule that you can't get the same leggo twice in the row is true (I think it is) and consider the first two chances for actually 15x and 20x, it would probably go down to 3 or so. So he was a little under average with his duchess pulls. But true random doesn't exist in programming. And I think the random in this game is somehow poorly implemented. This my personal belief and not based on any actual proof. We all know though that we can get 5-6 copies of one champion and not even one of another. If somehow his account rng isn't set on duchess, he will get a lot less of her than of other champs.
Is it actually not possible to pull the same lego back to back? Or is it just from the same shard type? Because I pulled kalvalax back to back one from sacred and one from ancient. There may have been on in between but I don't think so. I've also pulled more dupes than new legos lately. I think I've got 7 or 8 out of my last 14 were dupes.
@@aceca5147you mean tuesday. They had Xena on blue shards this week… they communicated that they had xena pull events on certain dates for ancient or sacreds, depending on the day. Not sure if this will be repeated or it runs out when the pass is finished in 7weeks
I did kind of expected this. I did expect like 25 legendary pulls and approximately 3 duchess. It is a little bit less with 2 but nothing crazy unlucky. It's just rather unlucky than lucky accoring to the odds. You cant really be upset imo.
Is there any videos for people starting out i got my first 6 star (rathalos) but now i have nothing left i gave up tyrel,kael,as well as others now i am totally sucking at the game and about had enough any help or ideas ?
They really should implement the same style as dragon heir does and infinite where if you pull 2 or 3 legos and it's not the targeted one. You'll be guarentee on the next one In raid. It's becoming pointless to go for x10 etc with regular shards as the pool keeps getting bigger and bigger. These Rate ups are only.good when the game is new and not.many champions yet to flood the pool
I don't know much about math, but my finger counting says with all the Creodan the blue that got pulled you should have gotten an easy half dozen Duchess.
thanks for posting this...kept me from spending chasing that x25 duchess on my account. My most wanted non-void and I got 2 other legos already, but out of sacreds. Heartbreaking odds, sorry roots
I've had back to back Jagg Bonesaw but it was not in the same lot of sacred pulls. I had 30 or so sacreds and on the last i pulled him, then a few months later i was pulling more golds and on the first pull i got him again.
I'm pretty sure you can't pull the same lego back-to-back but I definitely had a dream last night wherein I pulled 3 Yumekos from 3 consecutive Sacred Shards.
Laughed when HH asked who uses Lord Champfort?...2 of my first 3 lego pulls in the game were Champfort...I now have 3 of him. The only champ I have 3 of. My pulls rates and luck with RAID is a disaster. I still have fun and make the best with what I have. I currently use Champfort for Scarab King - always has a shield. almost 3 years in and missing 90% of legos. If it wasn't for free ones and fusions/fragments I would be in trouble. I literally have pulled 2 legos in the last 365 Void shards (Wurlim and Gurgoh). All that being said, obviously enjoy the game, but will never compete with many higher ranked players...
Criodan provide some utility for fireknight that helps a bit more than neldor, but neldors passive is absolutly insane. It can even proc while fireknights shield is up and do bring a 4 firehitter opener. with 3 other frezzers on the team he is an absolute machine gun
Did a math. Only sacred should give about 20 leg champs. But if you multiply the 0.25 for going for dutchess you should get t dutchesses. Maybe i am wrong i dont know but i did my math like that
assuming you are at x25 summon chance throughout the 314 shards and there is a 20% chance you pull duchess every time you get a legendary you should be seeing 3.925 duchesses and thats at odds so wanting 4 out of 314 was a bigger ask then what you think
pulled 10..first shard was dup ruel....was hoping for a criodan with the other 9 and didnt get it :(. didnt get the kymarr dup i was hoping for either :(
I don't believe for a SINGLE second that this dude has been saving sacred shards for 2 years 🤣🤣 Guarantee he's bought every single sacred pack that comes out.
I pulled 15 sacred that I had saved for quite a while... still saved 15 more. I only got a 3 freaking criodan dupes, and a forking Pixniel, I got done dirty.
Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, that felt really bad ngl. Good he got 2 but like damn, he got 2 copies of legos that weren't x25. Still fun to watch but the last half sure hurt.
If a +4 Dutches is all I wanted then I would be a little upset, but getting 27 legendaries would make it better. The rates for getting legendaries were pretty decent at least.
I guessed correctly. A +2. Dang. I mean, I can't really say how I'd personally feel because I can't see myself ever being in that position. But .. that was a ton of shards.
If I had 330 sacreds, and I pulled 27 lego's Id be floored. The best you can expect to pull from 330 sacred would be 15 legendaries. Expecting to get 4 dutchess from that is unreasonable at best. Though, that guys account pretty much confirms that whales get increased drop rates.
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Probably one of many reasons why most people don’t spend money on Raid besides crazy prices on shards 😂
Hey hell hades did some math soooooo.... The chance of getting four duchesses is 0.051% this is for 300 sacred shard
Well, the chance to get a legendary is 8.5 % (with Mercy system) so out of 314 shards, you should get around 27 legendaries. There are around 180 legendaries, and 25x means that the chance of getting Duchess would be 25/(180+25)= 12.2 %. So therefore, around every 8th legendary champion you get should be a Duchess. Therefore, getting 3 Duchesses out of this amount of shards is the most likely outcome.
But if you then factor in that the event starts with a 15x chance, and that you can't pull the same legendaries back to back, it makes it more unlikely to get 3 Duchesses out of this amount of shards. Don't know exactly how to calculate that, but my feeling would be that the likelihood of getting 3 Duchesses is still higher than getting 2, but not by too much.
So in conclusion, if you gave me that amount of shards and told me beforehand how many Duchesses I would expect, I'd have said 2-3.
I agree!
I appreciate the break down
Actually you can get back to back same lego
@@Neuvillete4.6you can’t
There are only 166 Legendary champions that can be pulled from Sacred Shards.
kudos to the editor. all these tiny cuts must have taken forever. and just for stats: i was expecting 2 duchesses.
Holy crap x25 is really not enough
X25 now barely gets you back to the 10X rates of 2019.
Never was
The only time it’s good is if there’s 3 active legos you have to have selected and you need/want all 3. Chance of getting 1 of those 3 is like 22% but individually still only like 7.3% at 25x. Can’t remember if it was Scratch or Nubs that broke down the math
3 years from now we will be begging for a x50 😂😂
Maybe a x100. Each month they add multiple new legos. The pool vets larger and larger we need a more solid way to collect certain champs. Like tormin event or something every month.@@antoineone1391
You taught me a valuable lesson here HH, no matter how much money I pour into this game, I will not get what I want, so I should stop. Let this be a warning to all.
I have the same takeaway from this video. Makes me think of the money I've poured into this game with false confidence
Dude pulled all the Criodan out of the pool😂
I wonder if the dupe epics were used as skill books. This 25x video helps put it into perspective. WOR! Until they too get 1,000 heros in game. Ya!
No H8 , just admiration at the shear number of sacreds and the dream +1 . Value wise thats got to = close to $4 000 in sacreds (I know he did not buy them all ) but everytime I pull a sacred from CB I tell myself its $15 in my pocket
What game are you playing? Sacreds rarely go that low, 20-25$ is the more common rate specially if you were trying to get 300+. I’d say it’s closer to 6-7K real world value to buy.
This is one of those accounts when you look at summon rush global leaderboard and see someone at the top with an absurd number of points
What is really upsetting is you pulled the same number of copies of Rotos and Tower as you did Duchess. 😅 25x was never going to cut it. I'd love to know what number you would've had to pull to get four copies at 25x. Well over 700 shards for not even enough to build a single +4, and that's why there isn't a viable PVP competition in the game anymore for a non-Krackens.
At least Sintranos has gone well so far!
There’s a lot more gear factor going into top tier PvP than saying a +4 Duchess beats a +2 team everyday. It helps along with getting god tier gear rolls on the correct set but certainly isn’t the overall deciding factor.
It's RNG. What don't you get about that? There is no hard number that you have to pull to get something. You could theoretically pull just three shards and get two of the same legendary for your first and third shard. It's just that there are small chances of that. Similarly, you could pull three hundred shards and get none. The chances of getting the outcome he did are not extraordinary at all. This is like being amazed that you flipped heads four times out of ten flips rather than five. Both of those outcomes are very likely. Statistically speaking he was most likely to get 2-3 copies. He got 2.
I feel sorry for the dude. This is R. I. P shadow legends.
It's R.I.P. because odds exist and they don't always favor people? This was a normal outcome for that many shards with the chances being what they are.
I'm glad the B.S. of the shard pulling in the game has been brought to light. The dupes i can say for myself is sickening and getting slowed down or stuck because of needing a particular few champs, and the game just gives a big middle finger.
Holy dude I just fought your classic arena team yesterday and you stomped me in the dust. I felt embarrassed but also excited for having found your team on the classic arena.
we need a x100 to have at least a 20% chance of getting her . don’t ask me how this makes sense , it’s raid maths 💀
X200
x100 would probably give you around a 35% chance or more. There are under 200 non void leggos, I think around 180. With x100 it would mean you have 101/280 or something like that. But this game is not supposed to give you this kind of odds. It is a gambling game in the end. It is painful though. Imagine I had to pull 23 sacreds for my next to last leggo and 24 now for my last leggo. So 2 leggos, deep in mercy, from 47 sacreds.
This game really isn't for the not lucky or non-gamblers.
@@alex86fire I know what u r saying mate, all my legos are from hitting deep mercy (voids especially). :(
I did 372 sacreds back then with StewGaming (can't seem to find the video on TH-cam or Twitch anymore). We pulled around 150-170 sacreds and got 2-3 Duchess. It was during a 2x combined with a 10x shard pull event. I think it was not wise to pull in this Progressive event. He should have waited for a 2x combined with a 15x-25x Progressive event which will happen very soon.
Had to pull 6 sacreds for the Blizaar fusion. Pulled Kymar on my 5th. Was thinking about going for a duchess, but this video may make me reconsider
Wow, that was awful. I feel for the guy, 300+ and just two. I'd be gutted I spent two years worth of saving on that pull. 😞 Heart goes out to you .
Yeah I don’t buy the “saving”. When he just flashed over how many legos he has in 2 years of saving there’s very low odds I’d believe he did that with just ancients that he got for free. That or he buys ancients along with the voids and not sacreds.
@aelinstue9431 yea there is no way this guy has been saving for 2 years. He buys every sacred pack that's available.
Definitely spent
"saving" for krakens is actually just buying all the sacred deals and not pulling them until the event they're after :D @@aelinstue9431
@@aelinstue9431Yeah no way his account will be anywhere this good with just ancient and voids. He is a Kraken whether he admits or not.
i think that was actually very good pull for that many odds for the 25x. You got nearly 10 percent pull rate for gold, and some decent champs. Given all the legos 2 out of 27 gold being the one you want is not bad IMO.
Better pull rate for legos than I've ever managed :) Congrats!
I use champfort in my IT 15 team.
I feel special that I was able to get Harima on her recent x25. I got up to x20 and was around 30 sacreds, got her with 4 shards left. I got so lucky, I’m stoked, she was my most wanted.
haha me on the other hand had some insane luck this time around, i was going to pull all my sacreds to get duchess, but i pulled my 2 primals first and got her on the 2nd one xD! i just used up all my luck for the next few years though lol.
The goal was PvP Champs out of 300+ pulls, got 27 gold's 3 pair of doublets champs (7 Champs I would recommend for myself) 2 out 4 completion rate of the set end goal. With a +25% chance of getting the gold you wanted and you only got 2.
You are a real one for science. Uncle wheal thank you. No more then 8 unless its a guaranteed pull event.
From the same shard type you cannot pull the same lego back to back. However you can from different shard types. I believe it was Saph that did a video on it.
This is sick, if you have 28 legos, and 25% chance that legos to be Dutchess, people would expect there will be at least 7 Dutchess, or 1/4 of totall number, based on their linear undestanding of math. But we all know math never get it wrong, and this is Raid :) Because probability math is soemthing totally differant than math of certainities... So you actually have 75% chance not to get what you want all 314 times you pulled, nothing is actually cumulative. Chance (probability) math come "close to be accurate" and so also usefull only on big numbers (and that means numbers with a lot of zeros, like 300 billions), and on low micronumbers (like in this case 300 hundreds), it is actually unusable and without any meaning.
So when Raid tells you have 25% chance to get Dutchess if you pull 1 lego, they are lying you, and they know very well that in probabillity math low numbers tries brings you usually 0 results. I done quick math here and that is about that with 300 sacreds, to get 4 Dutchess for sure (close to 100% sure, and with rate that you pull lego every 20 shards - I had to fix that value, but you see, this also can fail), you actually need to pull 900-1000 sacreds... so about 250 to get 1 for sure, 100% certain.
By that probability math that counts certainity (not just probable chance), you actually was lucky to pull second one, so you actually did bring a litlle mojo of yours, but I wouldn't hire you for lotery ever :)
I have no idea why they don't just make them a 50x. The 25x is definitely an improvement from the crappy 10x events, but cmon...2 copies from 320 is such a joke.
Duchess is at a negative chance to get, so a 25x just gets her even odds. The older champs are at a 5x to get that's why people have +4 tomb lords
I pulled 1070 ancients for this 25x Dutchess, I pulled 8 leggos with 6 being dupes and no Dutchess so I really think it is weighted in the software to make sure you don't pull what you want. I mean look at how many Creodans you pulled. It was practically every 3rd epic.
crazy cuz there's more epics and you pull dozens of him and 2 dutchess...another scam from Plarium
I pulled 147 primals on a 2% chance for legos and after 7 legendary pulls my 8th was Dutchess. So I definitely got very lucky getting 8 legendaries for 147 primals
That's not good evidence to support your conclusion at all. It wasn't every third epic, you just remember the Criodans more than the rest.
I haven't even pulled a single Duchess.
is the no back to back thing a sacred rule? I pulled 2 lord shazzars in the same weekend with no gold between them, but I think it was during a 2x ancient shard and it was a long time ago. But it was definitely of the same legendary in a row, but I pulled rares and epics in between them.
I actually use Champfort as my solo scarab king champ, since I was having horrendous luck with Bloodshield artifacts. Honestly, he does his job really well, also helped me beat FW for Bannerlords. And I used to run him in my secondary Hydra team, but now I have more champs that can place decrease speed, so he has slightly fallen off there. Still, I think he's pretty underrated
As someone who goes into mercy every god damn time even when a x2 is up, you really can't be upset about these pulls.
It was not unlucky at all.
This was sad. Especially the amount of repetitive epics.
This video is like a hope killer for this game.
I use champfort for auto iron twins 15 because slow speed placement passive. Makes it easy to not worry about random boss cleanses.
More epics in mix and how many croidans did you pull?
I pulled for Elva and got Samson, yesterday pulled for Dutches and got Zavia. Mix feelings.
The most I ever pulled was about 30 as well. I do not recall any more than 2 lego dupes coming from that. The reason I pulled them was for a guaranteed champ event, I think it may have been Gnut.
Hope you and the Mrs have a great holiday, thanks for all you do for us with raid;)
Videos like these comfort me in my f2p approach of this casino game. What's the cost of a yellow shard ? 15euros ? This man just spent 2 months of my country's average salary (Belgium).
This is how plarium views everyone account when setting points for summon rush
I pulled the one shard from the Tormin event, ironically didn't get the x15 for Duchess but got Wythir instead, and I'm happy with that because I do not have any good Demonspawn supports for Faction wars.
I would say wishing for 4 Duchess is just wishing. First of all. you have first 6% to pull a Legendary, then after that its a +25% chance... so as he said, if every legendary is weighted the same 1/100.. and dutchess have a 25/100 weight. you still have only 6% to pull a Legendary. 25% of 6% is 1,5% chanse to pull a duchess... so with that in mind, 2 duchess on 300 pulls make sense.
If the chances were what you said, he would have gotten 4 duchesses. 6% with 300 shards means 18 leggos. 25% from 18 mean more than 1 in 4, even with 1 in 4 it would mean 4 duchess from 16.
But accounting for mercy, the chance for a leggo from a sacred is around 8.2, or something similar. And we can see he got 27 leggos anyway. 25x is pretty painful as it doesn't give you a 25% chance, it add 25 duchesses to the pull of legendary heroes and those are your odds. So if there's 180 leggos (there are a little less but to simplify it) you have a 26/205 chance to get duchess which is 12.68 %. This means on average you would get 3.42 duchesses. If the rule that you can't get the same leggo twice in the row is true (I think it is) and consider the first two chances for actually 15x and 20x, it would probably go down to 3 or so. So he was a little under average with his duchess pulls.
But true random doesn't exist in programming. And I think the random in this game is somehow poorly implemented. This my personal belief and not based on any actual proof. We all know though that we can get 5-6 copies of one champion and not even one of another. If somehow his account rng isn't set on duchess, he will get a lot less of her than of other champs.
I've pulled about 30 sacreds on my f2p account back when we had the hero's path for Keeyra the watcher and the Mikage epics.
But how many Criodan did you pull?
This should have been titled “Criodan Comes Home For Christmas”
Is it actually not possible to pull the same lego back to back? Or is it just from the same shard type? Because I pulled kalvalax back to back one from sacred and one from ancient. There may have been on in between but I don't think so. I've also pulled more dupes than new legos lately. I think I've got 7 or 8 out of my last 14 were dupes.
I got two same epic back to back
Progressive chance is joke. Plarium needs to find more creative ways/events to acquire specific champs. This doesn’t seem any better that x10
It only puts her up to i believe to just over 8% or something
I was curious when I saw this video about Xena as I just fought a +3 Xena in the arena. Is Xena available now from shards?
Only at certain times. And I believe once the pass to earn her has ended she will no longer be attainable.
No you can't pull her normally but a couple weeks back they had her on a x10 on Ancient shards for a couple of days
@@aceca5147you mean tuesday. They had Xena on blue shards this week… they communicated that they had xena pull events on certain dates for ancient or sacreds, depending on the day. Not sure if this will be repeated or it runs out when the pass is finished in 7weeks
@@reesofraft4166 they had her for a x10 for ancients on 17th November, I just checked. Maybe they've done it since but I've not noticed
yes, they had it 3 or 4x since the Xena red point showed up. last time was monday or tuesday this week. @@aceca5147
Plarium: Yo dog, I heard you like Criodan so here's a dozen Criodans
Hey Mr H I still remember when you pulled your Trunda. That was epic
I did kind of expected this. I did expect like 25 legendary pulls and approximately 3 duchess. It is a little bit less with 2 but nothing crazy unlucky. It's just rather unlucky than lucky accoring to the odds. You cant really be upset imo.
Is there any videos for people starting out i got my first 6 star (rathalos) but now i have nothing left i gave up tyrel,kael,as well as others now i am totally sucking at the game and about had enough any help or ideas ?
Assuming it's always at 25x Duchess (which is almost true) it's about a 78.1% chance to get fewer than 4 Duchesses
In fact it's about 9% to get no Duchesses
Managed to bag my first duchess after 3 ancients, and my first versulf the grim with 1 sacred. Nice to have some luck for a change!
You gotta remember it's still Raid at the end of the day. He did get 2 and 2 rotos plus trunda. Shame he got 2 towers, that's my luck though
They really should implement the same style as dragon heir does and infinite where if you pull 2 or 3 legos and it's not the targeted one. You'll be guarentee on the next one
In raid. It's becoming pointless to go for x10 etc with regular shards as the pool keeps getting bigger and bigger.
These Rate ups are only.good when the game is new and not.many champions yet to flood the pool
Got my fix in for today thank you for saving me some money!!
how much money he spend for all those shard approximately?
I don't know much about math, but my finger counting says with all the Creodan the blue that got pulled you should have gotten an easy half dozen Duchess.
There was a x10 for Teodor and I had 18 sacred and went full YOLO. Got him on the 18th pull.
I was in the mercy and pulled 7 sacreds and not a single lego. I could only dream of having that many shards playing the game since I've started XD
That's so sad! I pulled 3 sacreds and got her so I figured he'd get like 8 copies!
thanks for posting this...kept me from spending chasing that x25 duchess on my account. My most wanted non-void and I got 2 other legos already, but out of sacreds. Heartbreaking odds, sorry roots
I've had back to back Jagg Bonesaw but it was not in the same lot of sacred pulls. I had 30 or so sacreds and on the last i pulled him, then a few months later i was pulling more golds and on the first pull i got him again.
hello 👋 why my account is failing to login in the optimizer its be over a 6 months am trying but it login fail
Wish i had one of these rotos. Still chasing for the guy after 18 months
5:49 huh he got the epic version of cruetraxa which i have lol
Accordint to quick maths, even on a x25 you would get roughly 2.8 to 2.9 Duchess's with that many shards.
I'm pretty sure you can't pull the same lego back-to-back but I definitely had a dream last night wherein I pulled 3 Yumekos from 3 consecutive Sacred Shards.
Laughed when HH asked who uses Lord Champfort?...2 of my first 3 lego pulls in the game were Champfort...I now have 3 of him. The only champ I have 3 of. My pulls rates and luck with RAID is a disaster. I still have fun and make the best with what I have. I currently use Champfort for Scarab King - always has a shield. almost 3 years in and missing 90% of legos. If it wasn't for free ones and fusions/fragments I would be in trouble. I literally have pulled 2 legos in the last 365 Void shards (Wurlim and Gurgoh). All that being said, obviously enjoy the game, but will never compete with many higher ranked players...
Good TH-camr 😺
Wow, and I was sad not pulling my first Kymar after getting 3 leggos that weren’t him. Nowhere near this many shards
feels rough i cant lie, but the amount of legos was good. I did actually expect this haha, we know how raid rolls
ive been using lord champfort to put decrease speed on iron twins 15 but I pulled a dutchess so might have to take him out hahaha
Criodan provide some utility for fireknight that helps a bit more than neldor, but neldors passive is absolutly insane. It can even proc while fireknights shield is up and do bring a 4 firehitter opener. with 3 other frezzers on the team he is an absolute machine gun
DOES IT REQUIRE 27 OF HIM?
Did a math. Only sacred should give about 20 leg champs. But if you multiply the 0.25 for going for dutchess you should get t dutchesses. Maybe i am wrong i dont know but i did my math like that
Crazy pull session
Plarium: 'Working as intended'
lol. He pulled Gnut after mentioning it! :D
Speak of the devil!
assuming you are at x25 summon chance throughout the 314 shards and there is a 20% chance you pull duchess every time you get a legendary you should be seeing 3.925 duchesses and thats at odds so wanting 4 out of 314 was a bigger ask then what you think
X1000 Chance for Criodan the Blue !!! 😂😅😂
🤣🤣🤣saving shards he says!!! that was hilarious!!
How many Criodans did he get in the end?
How funny is that the last one out of the 320 sacred was a hope?! 🤣🤣🤣
I expected 15 i didn't expect so many i underestimated over 300 shards... the quality of leggos where pretty good double rotos, gnut, kyoku etc
What I already suspected, summon events are just there to burn your shards and, best of all, open your wallet
pulled 10..first shard was dup ruel....was hoping for a criodan with the other 9 and didnt get it :(. didnt get the kymarr dup i was hoping for either :(
I pulled a Razin on my alt account as well, except I was actually happy about it because I haven't fused him on that account, lol
I have about 80 sacreds, and I want a Duchess. However, I don't even think that would get me one, so I'm not pulling them.
I don't believe for a SINGLE second that this dude has been saving sacred shards for 2 years 🤣🤣
Guarantee he's bought every single sacred pack that comes out.
I pulled 15 sacred that I had saved for quite a while... still saved 15 more. I only got a 3 freaking criodan dupes, and a forking Pixniel, I got done dirty.
Just imagine in plariums mind that’s 6100 dollars of sacreds….and that’s what he gets…
Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, that felt really bad ngl. Good he got 2 but like damn, he got 2 copies of legos that weren't x25. Still fun to watch but the last half sure hurt.
If a +4 Dutches is all I wanted then I would be a little upset, but getting 27 legendaries would make it better. The rates for getting legendaries were pretty decent at least.
I guessed correctly. A +2. Dang. I mean, I can't really say how I'd personally feel because I can't see myself ever being in that position. But .. that was a ton of shards.
Way better luck in terms of legos per sacred than I get. I feel like I’m generally in the 17-20 pulls per lego whether it’s a 2X or not.
I got duchess on my very first sacred shard pulled.. feeling very lucky now.
Lord Champfort is amazeballs in Iron Twins if you don't have a block damage team.
Wheres the Amius video eh? Did someone have a little trouble? :P
Coz i bloody well did. took me all day yesterday to figure it out
If I had 330 sacreds, and I pulled 27 lego's Id be floored. The best you can expect to pull from 330 sacred would be 15 legendaries. Expecting to get 4 dutchess from that is unreasonable at best. Though, that guys account pretty much confirms that whales get increased drop rates.
I had 3 Duchess in my account, all built. Then after a while of only needing 2 I empowered my best with that unused one.
I cant get mad. I saved up about 20 sacred and popped em yesterday. No dutchess or kymar out of 3 leggos. Corvus,Ghostborn and pixnial
You can change out champs once you got them. So possibly change put the epic once you get it