Kiwi Accent - The /e/ sound - PIN 📌 or PEN 🖊️?

[@naufalzaid7500]

One of my favourite features of the Kiwi accent!
One other thing I like about the Kiwi accent is how you guys pronounce words like "bear" and "beer" and "hair" and "hear" identically. It's really fun to listen to

[@Eddie-qe4bq]

Some English speaking accents if not all except the Kiwi pronounce their e's like a's like the boys name Ben by non Kiwi's is prounced Ban but also the word ban is pronounced ban.... Tex mex is pronounced tax max and if you were to tax a guy called max it would be tax max.... E's are pronounced like a's and a's are pronounced like a's.... So clearly the Kiwi accent has the upper hand over other English speaking accents as you can differentiate

[@naufalzaid7500]

⁠@@Eddie-qe4bq​​⁠ Speakers of other accents of English are able to differentiate “ban”, “tax” and “max” from “Ben”, “tex” and “mex” too 😅

[@Eddie-qe4bq]

@@naufalzaid7500 and how do they do so? ... Write it it out like I've written it out how I think they don't

[@naufalzaid7500]

@@Eddie-qe4bq They use vowel sounds different from the ones that are used in a New Zealand accent.
Making use of the IPA symbols used in the video, in a New Zealand accent, the vowel of “Ben” would be [ɪ] while the vowel of “ban” would be [ɛ], and the vowel of “bun” would be [ä].
In a British accent as spoken by someone like Daniel Radcliffe, the vowel of “Ben” would be [ɛ], the vowel of “ban” would be [a] and the vowel of “bun” would be [ʌ].
As you can see, between the two accents, the vowel sounds that are used to say all these words are very different but the words “Ben”, “ban” and “bun” are nonetheless still very much differentiable from each other in both accents

[@Eddie-qe4bq]

@@naufalzaid7500 a posh boy like Daniel Radcliffe would say Ben and ban pretty much the same(ie. ban) ... The kiwi accent says Ben and ban distinctly differently... We get teased about the way we would say Ben but I think having a clear distinction makes sense and maybe that's why we do say our e's the way we do in Ben which is not saying it as ban....so we can mean/pronounce the word ban for when we want to mean ban(ie. Make something unallowable)

[@jiaminli4331]

Are there any differences between e and i?

[@ErinaBee.sMoney]

The /e/ sound is pronounced [ɛ] in British and American, and [i̞~ɪ] in the Kiwi accent

[@dwzm]

Why is 6 afraid of 7?

[@Jk_Fun]

Look like big difference, but I can't point out what is the difference🤔

[@kiwianacorner]

Sorry, should have pointed out in the video. The /e/ sound in the Kiwi accent can sound a bit more like /i/, like "lift" instead of "left".

[@benmm01]

They pronounce their e like i

[@nickbrown6457]

UK here. Love our kiwi brothers and sisters, but really don't like this pronunciation. Having a different accent is one thing, and should be celebrated, but pronouncing words using the wrong vowel is quite another!

[@kiwianacorner]

But isn't it how accents are formed? Changing vowels, consonants, intonation, etc. like the Scottish accent, Irish, Yorkshire, Southern American, Idian, Australian, and hundreds of other accents. At least the Kiwi accent is not too hard to understand :)

[@JosszzoL]

bait

[@kane2742]

The "wrong" vowel is subjective. If someone from Lancashire (in the north of England) pronounces "book" so it rhymes with "Luke" (/uː/ vowel sound), but someone in the south pronounces it with the /ʊ/ vowel (as in "put"), who's to say which is "correct" and which is "wrong"?

[@lexyeevee]

Think we need to have a quick chat about what you think an R is for

[@Eddie-qe4bq]

@@nickbrown6457the prob with UK accent is a posh boy like Daniel Radcliffe would say Ben and ban pretty much the same(ie. ban) ... The kiwi accent says Ben and ban distinctly differently... We get teased about the way we would say Ben but I think having a clear distinction makes sense and maybe that's why we do say our e's the way we do in Ben which is not saying it as ban....so we can mean/pronounce the word ban for when we want to mean ban(ie. Make something unallowable)