@@aatodev hehe , i always try to grind with a theme , as in i almost never grind without a video project in mind , atm for example i am testing agris point and something related to loot scrolls while i'll finish next week when i come back from my vacation :p
The issue is you didn't do a super fast class at 1-shot area (like high AP musa doing lower level area like mushrooms) where you can get a super high kill count per hour - T4 pets will make a difference there. but in most normal cases - you are correct T3 vs T4 - not much difference
he did mention how t4 pets will affect places like polly's. you dont need to be a fast class to see an increase in a place like that, especially at a one shot area. 7:57
i would say if u wanna grind areas with oneshottable mobs then its worth it to go for t4s , or if u need specific buffs from pets , otherwise for high end areas t3s are most likely more than enough even for areas like kratuga where mobs die fairly fast
Seems like I finally caught up to you. I'm following you probably since BD Lighthouse stopped posting stuff. Took only 2 years and last month of extremely good rng. We both took breaks from the game. Nice seeing you are still here. Keep it up! Trykon from DeSync o/ Ps. And yes, I'm one of the lowest GS members in DeSync, but I'm witch now so no complains there
even if you are a f2p player and people say t1 is fine for high end, eventually this just isnt true as you get more and more ap and start clearing packs much faster, even for a spot like stars end i see trash sometimes left behind even with 3xt4 and 2xt3. Full t4 probably isnt 100% necessary, but its just much nicer for quality of life especially across 100s of hours worth of grinding.
thats true but what i meant is , the difference between t1s and t4s on high end spots is maybe 10% more trash , it's not a huge loss , and as i said by the time ppl have the gear for star's end they will for sure have at least a few t3s cuz of all the events that can give them , or just marketplace preorders
I mean season servers make it very easy these days to get back into BDO if u wanna do that :o If u wanna give it a try we get the new hashashin class released with the next season too :p
Its not about how much trash per hour you get, its how much rare loot pets picked up compared to low tier pets that leave tons of loot left behind. Those loots that are left behind could of have been the infinite pot piece...or some other rare items
I don't think it works like that, I'm almost sure that the drop is decided when you loot it. So your chance to get the item is still the same if not higher since you are killing more mobs instead of looting leftovers.
Somewhat of a proof is that if you kill a mob and pop a lootscrool the trash amount will be increased, also it would be worse for the server to make more calculations instead of just 1 when you loot the dead body.
I have two T4s and three T3s, and I don't regret it. The gathering and fishing buffs I get all help my lifeskill--Oh, you meant grinding. Heh. Heh heh. I knew that.
awesome video!, but i have to say that as a returning player, i didn't got any free pet (not that it matters since chicken is horrible xD) so i just got more from the MP
Also Waragons is nice with t1s, you dont miss much since you are always on one spot. maybe 3 t1s and 2 t3s will max you out if you want to pick up 100% of stuff and not wait 1-2 secs for last round of pickup
Yeah, you're aiming for fast kills on the elites so you can just manually loot the elites. It's kinda hard to measure efficiency at that place besides literally counting elite kills per hour. Trash count is not accurate because you're not maximizing trash but elite kills which only drop 6-9 trash on blue ls.
In the Schultz clip. You kill a pack of 15~ mobs and then you take the time to wait and kill 2 more packs of 2 mobs. Obviously this gives enough time for your pets to catch up. But if you're grinding properly, then there's no way you wait for those last 4 mobs and you're moving onto the next pack. With T4 pets and a lower loot time, it is possible for them to grab the loot on the way to the next pack where T3 pets will still be on Cooldown.
yes but the question is. is t4 pets needed based on the difference in trash loot its not, maybe if your someone who min max grinding but for most people its not needed
@@CyberneticArgumentCreator I've been playing for little over 4 months and so far i never really cared about upgrading the pets, i have three T3 because of the rewards and stuff i've never bought a pet.
since trash is a measure of number of mobs looted, your total money per hour will increase by the amount he shows - 25% ish money increase from t1 to t3 pet loadouts at oneshot grind spots. If you grind out a bil with t1s, you'd have 1.25bil with t3+ pets. that's the result.
I know this video its a little bit old but how do you get 9.8k with T1 at Shultz? I clear the bigger packs in a few seconds and I only get 6k per hour with 3 t1, 1 t2 and 1 t3
Clay50 you only need another “classic” pet since the penguin is a “classic” pet. you would not be able to combine a “classic” pet with a “limited” pet.
it also depends on what pet you have regardless of tier. i have tier 3 that gathers every 2.7s while my other t3 gathers at 6.8s, both on agile. idk why is this and i thought at first that the gathering time is standard and true to every tier, it turns out it isnt. do you know why this is? do you have a guide on this? i regretted somehow i spent a little on this kind of pet.
@@reyandrewruelos3262 yw, tier 1 also gain their random passives (5% extra xp smt) at lvl 10 so if you don't mind the wait, you can level them to see what they get, when you combine them you get to either keep the passives or reroll them (they get random passives even if you combine lvl 1s but this way you get another roll)
If you want best loot you need get pet with knownegle if u got 5 pets with talent knowlegle at tier 4 u have 45 % to learn more knownegle about monster so its give you more rare loots and u got allso 3% higer knowlege for every pets with that talent
What about the times you run away from the packs so fast that you miss that 100M drop in the unlooted monsters isnt that a net loss of wayyyyy more then what you would get for running away without looting everything VS making sure you picked everything up.... What its saying is you are leaving behind loot with T1 pets if you are killing the same amount but just picking up less you might be losing out on the big drops and wouldnt even know it.
From what I know and what everyone says , the loot is calculated on pick up , not when it drops , the drops on the ground are just "chances" to roll the rng .
I just can't with this videos my god, all talking about "meh maybe 3 to 5 pets in an event" "you can get 10 to 999 pets for free, only preordering it" and they have 5 T5 and 999999 pets in their inventory. In real account, 6 t1 and 1 cucu t1 with the fear to sacrifice one.
I have 5 t4 pets on console, I don't see how not everyone has t4 since they are cheap and sell plenty on console at least, I have 6 t4 as a matter of fact, and if I wanted I could have 11, since I been wanting to t4 my 5 birds for knowledge grind they at t3 rn. I my thing holding me back is I want to spend money elsewhere
interesting...but pets have more uses than just picking up trash...mine have specific skills attached...and the t4's have more skills.i dont use t4s because the pick up stuff...not why i upgraded them...
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If nothing else , at least i made good profit from this project , 2 elkarrs , 1 tung earring , 4 shultz necklaces xD
2 birds 1 stone. I like your efficiency.
@@aatodev hehe , i always try to grind with a theme , as in i almost never grind without a video project in mind , atm for example i am testing agris point and something related to loot scrolls while i'll finish next week when i come back from my vacation :p
Really interesting video.i love your choice to leave drop rates on spots and dive into everything bdo related!! keep it up!!!
I really needed that informations, thank you very much for that material :)
The issue is you didn't do a super fast class at 1-shot area (like high AP musa doing lower level area like mushrooms) where you can get a super high kill count per hour - T4 pets will make a difference there.
but in most normal cases - you are correct T3 vs T4 - not much difference
he did mention how t4 pets will affect places like polly's. you dont need to be a fast class to see an increase in a place like that, especially at a one shot area. 7:57
Thank you for this video, i always wanted to know if there was a big difference between T3 and T4 🙂
i would say if u wanna grind areas with oneshottable mobs then its worth it to go for t4s , or if u need specific buffs from pets , otherwise for high end areas t3s are most likely more than enough even for areas like kratuga where mobs die fairly fast
Seems like I finally caught up to you. I'm following you probably since BD Lighthouse stopped posting stuff. Took only 2 years and last month of extremely good rng. We both took breaks from the game. Nice seeing you are still here. Keep it up! Trykon from DeSync o/
Ps. And yes, I'm one of the lowest GS members in DeSync, but I'm witch now so no complains there
even if you are a f2p player and people say t1 is fine for high end, eventually this just isnt true as you get more and more ap and start clearing packs much faster, even for a spot like stars end i see trash sometimes left behind even with 3xt4 and 2xt3. Full t4 probably isnt 100% necessary, but its just much nicer for quality of life especially across 100s of hours worth of grinding.
thats true but what i meant is , the difference between t1s and t4s on high end spots is maybe 10% more trash , it's not a huge loss , and as i said by the time ppl have the gear for star's end they will for sure have at least a few t3s cuz of all the events that can give them , or just marketplace preorders
this is such valuable data thanks very much!
good info you're vid is always informative and awsome
ty for all the effort you put into these videos to share such info, even if its just u making some sweet grinding gains
This background music just fits your channel so well even tho I've heard it an uncountable amount of times now XD
Yeah , I used to use this song a lot more in the past , it's part of my old setup before I started to use mainly video game osts :p
Your Channel is so good it makes me want to Go back for bdo!
I mean season servers make it very easy these days to get back into BDO if u wanna do that :o
If u wanna give it a try we get the new hashashin class released with the next season too :p
:D gratz on Elkarr drop!
Its not about how much trash per hour you get, its how much rare loot pets picked up compared to low tier pets that leave tons of loot left behind. Those loots that are left behind could of have been the infinite pot piece...or some other rare items
I don't think it works like that, I'm almost sure that the drop is decided when you loot it.
So your chance to get the item is still the same if not higher since you are killing more mobs instead of looting leftovers.
Somewhat of a proof is that if you kill a mob and pop a lootscrool the trash amount will be increased, also it would be worse for the server to make more calculations instead of just 1 when you loot the dead body.
Could you make an updated guide for this since they now added a t5 pet and buffed the overall looting of pets? Thank you
I have two T4s and three T3s, and I don't regret it. The gathering and fishing buffs I get all help my lifeskill--Oh, you meant grinding. Heh. Heh heh. I knew that.
Bro, you tanked silver loss to test difference between pets. Much respect and thank you for this info
awesome video!, but i have to say that as a returning player, i didn't got any free pet (not that it matters since chicken is horrible xD) so i just got more from the MP
Also Waragons is nice with t1s, you dont miss much since you are always on one spot. maybe 3 t1s and 2 t3s will max you out if you want to pick up 100% of stuff and not wait 1-2 secs for last round of pickup
yeah that place also only spawns mobs at a certain rate so i assume t1s will be pretty efficient :o
Yeah, you're aiming for fast kills on the elites so you can just manually loot the elites. It's kinda hard to measure efficiency at that place besides literally counting elite kills per hour. Trash count is not accurate because you're not maximizing trash but elite kills which only drop 6-9 trash on blue ls.
In the Schultz clip. You kill a pack of 15~ mobs and then you take the time to wait and kill 2 more packs of 2 mobs. Obviously this gives enough time for your pets to catch up. But if you're grinding properly, then there's no way you wait for those last 4 mobs and you're moving onto the next pack. With T4 pets and a lower loot time, it is possible for them to grab the loot on the way to the next pack where T3 pets will still be on Cooldown.
yes but the question is. is t4 pets needed based on the difference in trash loot its not, maybe if your someone who min max grinding but for most people its not needed
can you test the new hex grind spot that was added?
yup , i did 1h there already , i'll finish it in 2 weeks or so since i go o na vacation today for 5 days so , 1 week i'll be off from bdo :)
Nice video! I have 1 T4 and 4 T3s all from events/quests. I spent 10$ to gift the game to my friend getting a polar bear and thats all.
these days its super easy to get full t3 as a f2p player imo , just wait for events xD
@@Duodecil i've played this game for only 4 months and i've taken like 5 months in btwn :D and i have 4 T4's and 1 T3 and only spend $40 on the game
Thanks and love!
This video was very very useful
273AP 325DP Kutum here chief ! I still have 1 T1 pet and 1 T2 pet in my "best" loadout!
how?! ive been playing since february and i have full t3 with 1 t4 and ive bought only 1 tier 1 pet
@@CyberneticArgumentCreator I've been playing for little over 4 months and so far i never really cared about upgrading the pets, i have three T3 because of the rewards and stuff i've never bought a pet.
@@rx71102 4 months and 273ap/325dp? Thats insanse
@@hutonienu2693 im currently at 284 AP - 343DP (PEN BS + PEN Kutum) and im still not full T4 pets
@@CyberneticArgumentCreator how do you get tier 3 pets for free?? I only have 5 tier 1 pets 😢
may i know what is ur pc specs?
great video even though it was logical bc t4 is only for spots where u kill fast ^^'
FYI can’t pre order pets if on SEA server, population is low
Are there the same opportunities of getting the limited and premium pets like crow and turtle on PS4? Do they come from a boss drop?
Question: does it not affect rare drops at all?
At high end spots not really since I don't lose on much if any of the drops . On oneshottable areas it will go down yes
since trash is a measure of number of mobs looted, your total money per hour will increase by the amount he shows - 25% ish money increase from t1 to t3 pet loadouts at oneshot grind spots. If you grind out a bil with t1s, you'd have 1.25bil with t3+ pets. that's the result.
whats the best pets for gatherin?
i like my 5 t4 pets on agil only place at this point that i out run my pets is blood wolfs now
thank to u , now i want exchange my all pet to tier4
I know this video its a little bit old but how do you get 9.8k with T1 at Shultz? I clear the bigger packs in a few seconds and I only get 6k per hour with 3 t1, 1 t2 and 1 t3
I've only bought a tent in this game and I have 5 tier 4 pets without paying. People just need to take advantage of events.
true , we get a lot of pets for free these days , 3 from main questline , 1 for being a new/returning player and the rest events+market orders
the thing is ; how to reach high end spots with t1 pets and no barracks xD
Nice vids mamen 👍, meybe need some update for t4 pet 🤣
i have a penguin in my inventory do i need another one to be able to combine him with? is the penguin considered a bird?
Clay50 you only need another “classic” pet since the penguin is a “classic” pet. you would not be able to combine a “classic” pet with a “limited” pet.
penguin is a ground pet, oddly enough flying pet travels slowly than ground pet.
So all tier 3 pets is good enough for high end spots? (Stars end, hystria, etc)
Yes
it also depends on what pet you have regardless of tier. i have tier 3 that gathers every 2.7s while my other t3 gathers at 6.8s, both on agile. idk why is this and i thought at first that the gathering time is standard and true to every tier, it turns out it isnt. do you know why this is? do you have a guide on this? i regretted somehow i spent a little on this kind of pet.
um all of them should have the same speed on each tier, unless they they are bugged maybe yours arent lvl 10 yet.
@@insertnamehereplox2290 omg i didnt know the level of the pet also has impact on gethering speed. thank you man, you saved me a lot of thinking there
@@reyandrewruelos3262 yw, tier 1 also gain their random passives (5% extra xp smt) at lvl 10 so if you don't mind the wait, you can level them to see what they get, when you combine them you get to either keep the passives or reroll them (they get random passives even if you combine lvl 1s but this way you get another roll)
@@insertnamehereplox2290 thank you for the info man
If you want best loot you need get pet with knownegle if u got 5 pets with talent knowlegle at tier 4 u have 45 % to learn more knownegle about monster so its give you more rare loots and u got allso 3% higer knowlege for every pets with that talent
What server is this?
What about the times you run away from the packs so fast that you miss that 100M drop in the unlooted monsters isnt that a net loss of wayyyyy more then what you would get for running away without looting everything VS making sure you picked everything up.... What its saying is you are leaving behind loot with T1 pets if you are killing the same amount but just picking up less you might be losing out on the big drops and wouldnt even know it.
From what I know and what everyone says , the loot is calculated on pick up , not when it drops , the drops on the ground are just "chances" to roll the rng .
@@Duodecil I was also wondering that, i had always this scary thought that i may have looted treasure piece already just my pets didnt picked it up :)
I just can't with this videos my god, all talking about "meh maybe 3 to 5 pets in an event" "you can get 10 to 999 pets for free, only preordering it" and they have 5 T5 and 999999 pets in their inventory.
In real account, 6 t1 and 1 cucu t1 with the fear to sacrifice one.
I have 5 t4 pets on console, I don't see how not everyone has t4 since they are cheap and sell plenty on console at least, I have 6 t4 as a matter of fact, and if I wanted I could have 11, since I been wanting to t4 my 5 birds for knowledge grind they at t3 rn. I my thing holding me back is I want to spend money elsewhere
You mean you sniped your pets off the MP????
@@ubon21 I just set a pre order on whatever pet they have on sales or in bundles. Do pets not sell frequently on pc?
I see, that makes sense.
Not that often. And there´s a bunch of preorders on them aswell.
I think those players are just stating the obvious. eg: T4 penguin ofcourse is better, cause fishing time is reduced and more buffs than t1.
T4 Polar bear and T4 hedgehog are the only 2 worth P2W for T4. Not even penguin worth it.
pets tier TBH only good if you are caring about the buffs they gives 5% combat 5% gathering tier 4 has 1 buff more than tier 3 buffs
true , pet buffs may be important to some ppl , for most others tho i would say once u have 5 t3s u dont need to bother with pets anymore
inb4 PA nerfs T1 pets to force more F3 purchases
Now PA gonna Buff T4's. Thanks
i kinda doubt it cuz then it would make grinding in general a lot more profitable for a ton of the low end areas xD
The big difference is between T2 and T3 pets.
itd be nice if the pickup radius was bigger on pets it just seems too small of a radius, and that the radius comes from the player not the pets
Thanks
this isnt even close to true, atleast not anymore, especially in elvia
i mean this video is ancient xD
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I'm F2P, I started 4 months ago and I have 44433. Just with events.
yeeeah these days they give free pets away so much
interesting...but pets have more uses than just picking up trash...mine have specific skills attached...and the t4's have more skills.i dont use t4s because the pick up stuff...not why i upgraded them...
don't be saracie get t4