These are a great set of videos Mr. Weiss, I hope you post a lot more. Anyway, I was just asking...do you think you could post a few videos on how you put your team(s) together? like what kinda kids ya have play center, l. wing, r. wing, l. defense, r. defense, goaltender...line 1, line 2, etc...
pt 3: HOWEVER... as is the case with ANY system, you've gotta pick the right set-up for your team's strengths and weaknesses. This particular set-up requires speed (especially from F1), and a lot of discipline from F2 and F3. if this set-up doesn't suit your team's make-up, then obviously you'll pick a different one. either way... i appreciate the comment. i'll keep my eyes open for any NCAA or NHL clips of teams using this set-up. cheers!
You're very welcome Mr. Weiss. Yeah, I actually checked out your whole website. It's not bad, it looks like just recently put it together. Most of your videos are dated from around Xmas. Do you think you could also do videos on like how you teach someone to skate from scratch? Or how you teach someone to become a better hockey player, who has never played the game. I got a million ideas, but like not wanting to stampede your project. Anyway, good job - I do look forward to more.
what if the D tries to reverse? thats a lot of ice to cover for F2 and F3 along with D1 and D2, and that leaves the strongside (in this case the side after the reverse) winger an open lane to either skate or pass to his centerman
this is long, so here's pt 1: hey man - thanks for the comment. it's always good to have discussion on these things! in response to your comments. i realize that my delivery in some of these older videos has given the impression that i'm saying it HAS to be executed exactly as diagrammed. in reality, my point is that F1's responsibility is to force a pressured pass, but not let himself get tied up in the process. sometimes that might mean forcing the play up the strong side, as you said.
Great stuff. Can you suggest some creative offensive counter measures for a team using a strong side overload defense structure, particularly when they have F1 and F2 sealing off the boards, thus preventing the pas pass to the point, and impeding opportunity to cycle the puck down low? Thanks!
+Owen Durkin not sure i understand the question - are you in the defensive zone trying to break it out? or in the offensive zone, trying to work it back to the points, and cycle low? Usually the terms "overload" and F1 & F2 refer to forechecking schemes.
pt 2: as for this being used at "higher levels of play..." i respectfully disagree there. i've seen it used in NHL multiple times (both in the offensive zone AND as a neutral zone forecheck). One of the NHL coaches in the 2009 level 5 clinic actually showed a clip of his team using a 1-2-2 that was nearly identical to this one. i've used it with succes as a player in fairly high levels of play (canadian jr. a), and i've seen it run well in college hockey
there is a reason why this is not used at any higher levels because its too easily exposed. If the Dman has any smarts he can reverse rim to the strong side winger as he is being "angled" to the weak-side. Do actually know how hard it is to angle someone from one corner to the other? I'm sorry but this is not practical and complicates things to accomplish the same thing by the F1 forcing the dman up the strong side where F2 is....no play.
These are a great set of videos Mr. Weiss, I hope you post a lot more.
Anyway, I was just asking...do you think you could post a few videos on how you put your team(s) together? like what kinda kids ya have play center, l. wing, r. wing, l. defense, r. defense, goaltender...line 1, line 2, etc...
pt 3: HOWEVER... as is the case with ANY system, you've gotta pick the right set-up for your team's strengths and weaknesses. This particular set-up requires speed (especially from F1), and a lot of discipline from F2 and F3. if this set-up doesn't suit your team's make-up, then obviously you'll pick a different one. either way... i appreciate the comment. i'll keep my eyes open for any NCAA or NHL clips of teams using this set-up. cheers!
You're very welcome Mr. Weiss. Yeah, I actually checked out your whole website. It's not bad, it looks like just recently put it together. Most of your videos are dated from around Xmas. Do you think you could also do videos on like how you teach someone to skate from scratch? Or how you teach someone to become a better hockey player, who has never played the game. I got a million ideas, but like not wanting to stampede your project. Anyway, good job - I do look forward to more.
wow great video! really helped me out, thanks!
what if the D tries to reverse? thats a lot of ice to cover for F2 and F3 along with D1 and D2, and that leaves the strongside (in this case the side after the reverse) winger an open lane to either skate or pass to his centerman
this is long, so here's pt 1: hey man - thanks for the comment. it's always good to have discussion on these things! in response to your comments. i realize that my delivery in some of these older videos has given the impression that i'm saying it HAS to be executed exactly as diagrammed. in reality, my point is that F1's responsibility is to force a pressured pass, but not let himself get tied up in the process. sometimes that might mean forcing the play up the strong side, as you said.
Great stuff. Can you suggest some creative offensive counter measures for a team using a strong side overload defense structure, particularly when they have F1 and F2 sealing off the boards, thus preventing the pas pass to the point, and impeding opportunity to cycle the puck down low? Thanks!
+Owen Durkin not sure i understand the question - are you in the defensive zone trying to break it out? or in the offensive zone, trying to work it back to the points, and cycle low? Usually the terms "overload" and F1 & F2 refer to forechecking schemes.
pt 2: as for this being used at "higher levels of play..." i respectfully disagree there. i've seen it used in NHL multiple times (both in the offensive zone AND as a neutral zone forecheck). One of the NHL coaches in the 2009 level 5 clinic actually showed a clip of his team using a 1-2-2 that was nearly identical to this one. i've used it with succes as a player in fairly high levels of play (canadian jr. a), and i've seen it run well in college hockey
You should call it The Possum Forecheck... sounds better than the Foosball forecheck
there is a reason why this is not used at any higher levels because its too easily exposed. If the Dman has any smarts he can reverse rim to the strong side winger as he is being "angled" to the weak-side. Do actually know how hard it is to angle someone from one corner to the other? I'm sorry but this is not practical and complicates things to accomplish the same thing by the F1 forcing the dman up the strong side where F2 is....no play.
haha - change the name if you want!