A Long Walk Home: Survival Get Home Gear | ON3 Jason Salyer
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- What if the EMP strikes and you are hundreds or even thousands of miles from home? Your vehicle may be fully loaded and capable but it will be potentially useless as a means of conveying your life saving gear after such an event. How much equipment, food and supplies can you and your family carry on your backs? What will be your priorities? Watch these survival tips and tricks that I provide
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My work trip is 38 miles one way, I carry a GHB all the time. Normal stuff, emergency food, water, 3 day camp trip supplies as it is a 3 day walk with gear.
3 day supply is great for a get home bag. at roughly 33 miles a day home in 3. now with that being said, if a situation were to happen (fan being hit events) you could posibley only travel say 5 miles a day or even have to stay a night so will not be attacked/detected. that adds time; so i get the 3 days (what i carry, am prepared for.) i always think what if your/my journey doesn't go so smooth. just thinking out loud and passing this on. and yes prepareing for 5 day supply would add so much weight unless you go through your bag and get rid of stuff, which would be a risk unto it' self.
My wife thinks I’m crazy all the stuff I keep in back seat
Nope. Not crazy
😂 I hear ya there buddy. But there has been times when my little stove came in handy on the road. All that stuff has a time and a place for it. Better to have it and not need it. Rather then not have it and need it.
I feel you brother. Mine too, but it’s our job to prepare.
Ditto!
😂 same however after 12 years together my wife is finally starting to come around
An episode on how to appropriately use a bivy / Mylar blanket in order to not sweat and get hypothermia would be great.
If you are planning on walking back to Georgia, make sure that you have two dehydrated oxen and a dehydrated conestoga wagon in the bag. 😂 Honestly though, traveling in the truck, bikepacking setups are a reasonable option.
Have you ever thought about carrying a fold up game cart? I have one in my jeep that I use when deer season comes around. It would help with more of the things you might want to bring with you but don't want to overload someone. The one I have is a home built made by my Dad and weights about 25 pounds. I have loaded a 135 pound west Texas white tail deer on it and had no problems getting it to my vehicle.
I oriented my main GHB towards getting home from work. And keep small add on kits in the vehicles.
I'm working towards that as well.
@@pierowmania2775I started out using google maps to build a route. Knowing my way home and how far it is helped a lot in figuring out what I will need. I'm fortunate to live in a larger city with lots of longer paved hiving trails, of which several run alone some large creeks through it but I have about a 15 mile hike. I found some shorter routs on sidewalks and following rail lines, however there were no creeks, steams, or ponds along the way, and being able to collect water to purify are critical parts of my plan, so I went the longer route.
Imagine opening up the tool compartment expecting only tools and bam, there's a bonus box of coffee there. Moral is very important and our wives always provide us with that
1 piece of get home kit in my truck is a ratted out, perfectly maintained bicycle. 10c's attached, ready to go. Not very romantic but faster than walking.
i like the way U think 👍👍
My son in-law & I were just talking about bikes. He wants to carry an ebike while I want a folding bike. It beats walking.
What's in my get home bag? Given that this bag is for me and me alone, but it could be intentionally stretched for two people. An emergency poncho that is Mylar lined, A shower curtain/liner for emergency shelter, ,cordage(bank line and paracord), mini fishing kit, fire kit, mora, hat, gloves, bandana, headlamp, spare batteries, stainless steel bottle with cup, compass, maps, baofeng, multitool, food((striped mres), skeeter head net, sawyer mini, water tabs, water bladder, full trauma/bobo kit w/cat turniquet, signal panel, glow stick signal mirror.
I’ve got some kit that lives in my vehicle constantly. I get crap for it. I also get asked to borrow it pretty regularly when crap happens… 😂
Lol...that's actually a legit minimalist, yet effective, carry right there. A 5 gallon jug of water with a knife duct taped to it 😁
Did the long walk of shame twice in my heavy cycling days (bike beyond my ability to repair there that was the shame!!!) about 75 miles each time. Was in a different situation in that I had to keep things small and light to begin with and I was on my own. You have everything thought through except your wife is correct in my situation, coffee was my all and everything as I only stopped for a couple of hours at night. Not something you can do with a family. I don't have to tell you the foot/clean socks thing is vital and if you are "directionally challenged" stop, make coffee and have another attempt in 15 minutes or so. One other tip, stay away from roadside picnic sites, park carparks ect as you get lots of unusual company in those places at night or was I just lucky😅😅😅😅😮!
Using a garden cart for hauling gear is a viable option, I use one attached to my bicycle for back country bikepacking, it's also handy to bring a deer out when I hunt alone. And when camping with our grandkids, they can ride in it.
I use a 'trombone' golf trolley fitted with big golf flight bag when im taking multiple stuff to the range...gets funny looks there but not even a second glance from my neighbours when im loading the car . Golf trolleys are desjgned to carry heavy loads of rough terrain so ....
I appreciate your efforts to post videos so often. It’s like a discussion with a friend. God bless you and your beautiful family.
That payday was doomed right after you put it down. Can you survive well people have long before we had the good gear, so thoughtful prep and a positive will with faith can do the job.
Knowledge is also key.
the best words were "I know it works" .. yes agreed use your gear
Its always worth to prepare yourself with fighting chance
If you are in a desperate area where you REALLY need water, a small grocery cart with a basket can be used to haul fairly heavy articles like water jugs just by tilting it backwards onto the two larger wheels and pulling it along behind you. Sometimes I use one to go shopping via the bus and haul heavy loads that way back to home from the bus stop. I used to use a rickshaw type contraption I built to haul firewood and used it over brushy ground and fallen trees. Lots of ways to haul more gear that is essential if you use a little imagination.
Because less than 10% of our audience is interested in primitive survival. We poll our followers frequently and there isn’t enough interest to focus on things like building wheels. Business 101, play to your audience.
You've made me rethink my get home bag. I was carrying a light weight bag for all seasons which ment that I was gonna freeze in the winter. I'm now going to update my bag with long johns for sleeping and winter layering, a rain "suit", and light weight summer sleeping bag and sleeping pad. The additional items will add about 5 pounds, but it'll probably be worth it.
Excellent content Jason. Thank you and your wife for the video. Nice to include the kids also.
HAHA Reaches over and hes like dad didnt see that! BUSTED! DOH! 🤣🤣
The big thing besides war that happens is volcanic winter. Not good. Make sure you have seeds and basic medical needs and food
I commend you by taking your kids/family into your video - totally realistic. I have learned of tons of knowledge from you. Thank you i have not been an active to ‘thumbs up’ etc…its not because i did not like it….i just am timid. But I will make sure to do so from now on.
Thanks so much!
As a guy who used to walk two to three thousand miles a year, and is currently walking a thousand miles a year mostly with a 25 pound pack
Hundreds of miles? I'd be ready with a push cart. The larger wheels the better. Like Mormon trail push cart. I'd want 600-800 pound capacity, because I won't be coming back.
1) if you are considering walking home up to 40 miles it will be so much easier if you walk regularly.
2) a ten pound pack if comfortable is barely noticable., a 25 pound pack will shorten your stride and reduce your speed by 5-10%. A 50 pound pack will further reduce your speed and limit your time on foot requiring more breaks.
3) an emergency is no time to break in hiking shoes and test out a pack.
4) When I was half my current age I could easily walk twenty five miles with little to no pack on city streets in 8 hours including a break or two.
Walking streets with a fifty five pound pack I'd say I could get twenty miles in ten to twelve hours, I'd need more breaks. Back country it would be ten to fifteen miles in twelve hours.
The data I've found for Mormon families was fifteen to twenty miles a day. Little kids went on the cart. Bigger kids walked most of the day.
I think you did a great job. When I was in New Mexico, my bag drove me crazy because of desert situations. Since I moved back to Kentucky, I actually have a pretty stable get home bag. Kids are grown and it's my boss (wife) and me 90% of the time. We're getting older, we're both in our 50's and we rarely travel over 50 miles from the house unless that twice a year check up at Vanderbilt. That makes it about 80 miles.
My wife is 4'11" and her pack is mostly food, filter, clothes, a small sleeping bag (when I'm feeling brave i tell her to ditch the sleeping bag and just stick a pillow case in there. You'll have plenty of room).😂
We carry one complete change of clothes at all time.where we live and travel to is covered with pretty big rivers or large creeks. I can walk around a lake.....a river not so much. Because of this we keep an inflatable sleeping pad to put our bags on and swim across. This helps my little gnome sized wife too. She can swim, but a couple of the rivers have a pretty intense currents. I tell her to keep the bags on the pad and for her to hold on to the pad and I'll do the swimming part. We're prepared to be swept down at least a half a mile down river because of currents. She has most of our food in her pack. I try to put most of tat stuff in her pack. I don't carry my beloved Silky Pocket-Boy in our packs. I went with a smaller one. We're blessed that we have woods everywhere and lots of water. I carry the Sawyer water filter, the water purification tablets, and a litte jar ofbeach. This is our method of keeping water. She carries a one quart canteen and a Berkey filter bottle for water. I carry a 2 Quart and a one quart canteen along with a Berkey filter botte. We each have good hiking shoes in our vehicle. She is terrible about keeping spare ammo with her (the prayer about knowledge tono the difference fits here. I have 5 mags for my main gun and 3 for my backup. She carries a 9mm so after seeing that fussing wasn't gonna work, I put another of her 8 rd mags in my bag along with a Glock 33 rd mag in a side pocket of my bag so she'll have some ammo. I'd like to think we'll never fire a shot, but I'm prepared to be wrong. Again....a great video.
Your boy was slick with that lift of the Payday.
Greetings, Jason. I do enjoy your thoughts in family survival. I challenge myself on Saturday and Sunday to hike 4 miles with gear along with my dog. Living in Puerto Rico, you must be prepared during hurricane season. My wife has taken her hiking in the metropolitan area when she visits her office. My family and I do believe being prepared year around..
One item that I didn't see was reading material. Perhaps a small New Testament like the Gideons used to hand out...
There is a difference between a BugOut bag and a Get Home Bag. Two different bags for two different types of emergency situations.
Most people don't travel hundreds of miles from home. Most of the time they are just a few miles from home, maybe 50-100 and that is pushing it.
A BugOut bag is just that, a bag designed to make your life easier if you have to leave your home and find alternate options for your survival.
A Get Home Bag is just that. A bag designed with the basic necessity for survival for a few days and maybe longer.
In each bag, you should carry a system for water, shelter, fire and food, and hopefully a good medical kit. I could give you a list of things that you really need for survival, but everyone will pack items that they feel they need to keep them alive until they reach their destination.
These videos are instructive and helpful, especially if you are not sure what you need.
That's great planning on your wife's part, to have a coffee to crack before workin on the truck. Another great VID. Hope you & yours had a great 4th. TAKE CARE..
The kid eyeballing that candy bar.😂
Had the Silky Big Boy in my bag, but down sized to the Gomboy. Now just keep the Big Boy in my pickup truck.
As for the compass. Got the same(or similar) mine is the Suunto MC-2G(global)
Whenever you're inflatable sleep Mat goes south, Don't throw it away. Cut in Half and it makes Two great Waterproof Bags.(Pack liners,Ect).. Some models you'll have to separate the Air chambers inside.
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the SOL Escape is worth every cent. I "survived" in -6°C with the bivy and a Snugpak Jungle Bag, I expected the night to be +5°C
My get home bag is for incase l have to walk the 350 plus miles back home from work!
It weighs quite a bit!
Great content and I really appreciate the comment that God is in control. Not hearing that enough online anymore. God bless and keep up the great work.
The payday was history the moment you pulled it 😆 🤣. Great video ty
Introduce your sidekick in camo poncho ,even have them give TH-cam instruction ,just be the director.
my e bike ran out of juice all the way across town in a very sketchy part of the city, it is a heavy beast and ok on flat and downhill but up hill no way, it was a major slog trying to drag that bike home manually. i probably lost 4 lbs of sweat.
Last year a friend of mine walked from Joplin, Missouri to Virginia. He said that it took him a couple of months. Through - hikers on the Appalachian Trail hike over 2000 miles. Typically it takes from May to October to complete it. Bugging out for long distances on foot would have it's own nuances, but if it came down to that I think it could be accomplished.
One thing about through hikers though is they always resupply in towns along the way. You can’t carry months worth of food with you, one week is a stretch.
And there he goes with your Payday bar 🤣🤣🤣
Elijah really wanted your survival payday bar 😂
Your son is eyeing that pay day
My get home bag includes something that I've rarely, if ever, heard mentioned. A wrist rocket. Combined with 1/4 in ball bearings is a formidable weapon. Silent and very lethal at close range(50-60 ft). I figure low light travel is the best, in my region. Hunting my entire life with trad archery equipment makes aiming a sling-shot a cinch. Might save me unwanted attention, cause I used my conceal carry for a threat.
You touched on it in one of the last few videos.
Leather Personnel Carriers and a water/camp shoe for... well, walking in water and for letting the boots and feet's dry out at camp while maintaining mobility. (This might not apply depending on whether your "hillbilly" stat is high enough that you have built-in LPCs on your rarely washed, much less covered, feet.)
See ya on the next one
I believe a kit should be built with tested and proven items, and left alone for the most part. If your grabbing and using things out of the bag regularly, they wont be in there when u need them.
i hv a recon bag that doubles as a GHB,, a night recon bag that's 4 night only, as i got older (67now) i found my INCH bag was too much to hump all day/night so i went with a tool tote with wheels & took the plastic (toooo noisy) ones off & put good rubber ones with tubes on it, so far it's working out good,, i can drag it about 5 miles then take a break then press on..
My advice >>>>
DON'T GET OLD !! 🤪
@@tomcatt998 im geard towards getting home from work. Got a route planned. Its 15 miles on foot. Got a decent 72hr bag just in case i run into problems. Should cover me for most errands near by as well.
Better to be prepared than sorry, stay strong and hope in the Lord, I think you'll need another payday .
I KNEW! the boy would snatch up that Payday bar, lol
Build a bag for each family member and have them keep up with it.
Ever considered a golf trolley for carrying extra big stuff ? You can drag them almost anywhere and they fold up pretty small
A fun overview of your bag! My two cents: (1) That inflatable mattress is going to pop and you can't sit on it when you stop during the day. (2) That mylar bivvy isn't going to keep you dry - it's going to make you very wet. The breathability only works under VERY specific conditions. (3) You can't go wrong with Hill People Gear. (3) You are better prepared than 99.999% of people traveling. :)
I am a truck driver, so could be a thousand miles from home. I do carry a get home bag, a USMC ILBE. Similar gear you have. 4 water pur options, boil, filter, tablets, solar kettle. Emergency ration bars and FD food. Fishing gear, trapping gear, and sling shot for small game..... and if I am in a situation where I'm using this load out, there certainly going to be a lot of scrounging, or tactically acquired stuff...
Hello 👋 my outdoors friend, thank you for sharing this informative video. You did a great job of filming. All the best to you and your family. Stay safe out there.
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Thank you very much!
Great video, brother. i completely agree. Without the father, you stand no chance. But put him first, then your wife and family. i think things will go much smoother. Once again great video
Get home/ truck bag is always a good Idea. As I got older I know I won’t be able to carry as much as I used to so. I pick up one of those collapsable wagon to go along with my pack.
Well I guess I'm crazy too because I keep stuff in my car as a just-in-case. It breaks down and I need to get home etc etc bit you carry much more 🤗
As always, excellent video! Your vehicle is packed out like ours for a trip. Mr. B doesn't pack like me either, but we are ready for anything.
I prefer “real life” brother- keep doing you 👊🏻.. So many people forget about taking care of others when planning out their kit- good job 🔥
Great video! Better than the other Survival Dispatch videos ("Civil Unrest" blah blah blah. As messed-up as our demographic present and future are concerned - hardly anyone having kids since the 1960''s - , where are all these violent rioters going to come from? Not saying that there won't be any.).
A GHB is way more realistic for our "contemporary environment" (An Army MI term). I'm planning for a trade show outside my region this Summer, and I have one older generation Marine Corps sustainment bag (They're ungodly tough) with CORE SUPPLIES (since the rest of the truck will be filled with preparedness supplies, anyway): NBC gear: Pro mask with spare filters (Primarily for forest fire smoke - ash came down like snow on one of my trips, back) , radiation meter, water filtration, military poncho (for fallout and other things), pistol ammo, night vision setup w/attachments (Ever since seeing Blackhawk Down, my NV always goes with me), and ABS bump helmet (Airsoft) for attaching the NV to, for driving.
I think you would need a deer cart to carry everything.
Yes it is very hard with small kids. I try and keep a wagon in the vechicle when i have the family to haul the kids and extra stuff for them. But thats a perfect world
Great advise. Looks like a wonderful day for your family outing. God bless you & your family & remember 'payday' will come around again😋.
Absolutely the best!!!
If you're gonna take a pack, take one with a frame b/c it is so EASY on your spine and you can carry more with less discomfort! It's possible to carry enough on foot to survive for a year, not counting eating roots, using snares fishing, hunting...
🇦🇺😎👍Interesting content
Thanks 👍
Hello Jason you always bring very interesting ideas I’m very thank full for all the help thank you very much stay safe out there God bless you always
i was on my way back from Maine to Florida & got stuck in that nj traffic mess, my top speed was 7mph then stop, bumper to bumper for miles on both sides of the interstate,, i got to thinking what a time for a EMP strike,, i had my get home bag & $$,,,
BUT it's a longgggg way to Florida.. my first thought was to get ahold of a bicycle & press on...
i still think "what if"....
Nice. Well done
Jason, great vid! Love the truck setup! I have different bag setups based on the distance from home. Small bag for shorter distances with my larger bag when I’m over 2 hours drive from home.
great content as always brotha, well thought out. Def some tough decisions on what stays and what comes with
This is a great discussion because, unlike most other videos that cover this subject who somehow seem to ignore anyone else in their family but themselves, you include consideration of the entire family and how they should prepare as well as the "survivalist".
Thanks!
Coffee and watermelon make perfect sense there😂.
Another great video full of good content Jason. I never leave home without a Payday!
A lot of great points. Thanks for keeping your faith out there. Blessings. If in SC look us up
I'm a frequent viewer+ subscriber & after watching each video I come away more knowledgeable than before - Brynnlea, North Alabama area✅👌
You could use a folding shopping cart (grandma type). Because you would need to take so much stuff along for your WHOLE family. It would save your back somewhat.
Great tip!
The ol' S10 is working overtime carrying all that kit.
Ha! I’ve upgraded significantly to an F350
Wife aggro at 10:25. Great video.
The wife is always right. 🤩 So I have been told. 🙂
30 years of marriage tells me that you are correct.😂
Taking a pioneer point of view traveling along the Oregon, California and Santa Fe Trails often their destination and "New Home" was where the Wagon broke down.
I've found a pair of fencing pliers are real handy but heavy. As you see from your tour around the American West it's luck or Divine Intervention that you break down where it's easy or very hard to travel and survive. Time of year has bearing on survival.
Hi Jason! Great loadout and very interesting and helpful too👌! I have to check my bags because I saw some things that will surely find their way in my bags . Thanks for sharing and as always all the best from Austria 🇦🇹🤠👍🏕🔥
Thanks for watching!
Great video as usual Jason!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Good thoughts Jason
Its good to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
Carrying that amount of gear and supplies gives you options.
Options are good because at the possible event, you can add or delete as necessary. If you get stuck in a storm in a more remote area like you are filming, and vehicle is incapacitated, it gives you the option to stay by your supplies, build a base camp and sit it out for days if necessary. That way you remove the stress factor from the family and turn it into a camping trip until the storm passes. You are not immediately dumped into survival in the elements in the wild. The truck is a source of fuel (diesel/oil/ tyres) for a fire for warmth and cooking. It also provides a massive part of your windbreak on the windward side. Familiarity with the vehicle will provide comfort for kids and wife. The link to "home". The psychological aspect plays a huge role in survival. If you have to cope with panic and stress of members of the family it would greatly add to your burden and can cloud your reasoning.
Next, i would encourage kids to sleep together for shared warmth and the comfort factor once again. Difficult to deal with people when theres fear and panic.
I carry flashlights with AA/AAA batteries, a power bank for cell or other elec if needed. I also carry a small 10 w foldable solar panel that can plug my electronics to so i can recharge if necessary. Thin and weighs nothing. The batteries in the flashlights are charged via a small 4 battery charger (accepts both AA and AAA) and plugs directly into the solar output. That way i have batteries always charged and if on the move the charger is simply strapped on top of pack. So you carry the charged batteries for the flashlight in the flashlights and the exact no and type of spares (plus a spare set for in case) in the charger so if required its only swapping them out.
Unless you are being pursued, i would most certainly carry more than i think is comfortable because its better to cover 10 miles on a full stomach in a day than beating yourself out for 15-20 miles with an empty stomach.
I also switched over to intermittent fasting and OMAD ( one meal a day) and found i can go long periods without being hungry or thinking about your stomach and looking for energy. OMAD trains your body to effectively use what you have for energy and then utilise it effectively. I found i lost a lot of unwanted weight and am healthier all round. You also find you can easily do more with less input and to skip your 1 meal in the next 24 hours and stretch it to 30/36/48 hours is easy as long as you have liquids. Food requires liquid for processing.
So, if water is restricted it makes sense to restrict your food intake, especially sugars. Dried meats take you way further than pasta or rice and the meat is a slow release of constant fuel. Sugars, rice and pasta etc cause a spike and then you fall off the plateau within the next few hours. Bear in mind, after a meal one feels tired, that is because your system diverts upto 30% of your blood flow into your digestive organs to process that meal, hence the sluggishness because less oxygen and fuel is available to the muscles. Now on OMAD, that meal is eaten at night before bed. It enables your body to process the meal and restore energy to the muscles while you are inactive. So your restoration is more complete. In the morning, a cuppa coffee or tea and you are set for the day. I advise against eating anything with the coffee or tea because of the insulin spike that will cause your system to hunt for fuel when the spike plummets in an hour or two. Stick to OMAD. I reckon it works better and, if your body is trained for it now, to cope out on the trail is so much easier.
My wife and I can simply pick up our pack and walk to put distance if we need to without worrying about food for the next hours, sunset at least where we usually eat or tomorrow if we need to.
That snacking all day at home is bad habit that can cause digestive stress on the trail.
Thanks for a good "fireside" chat with the family
Great stuff. God bless
Thanks, you too!
Going thru and deciding what goes and what stays is a difficult decision, I think we as people are pack rats we need stuff to survive, leaving it behind for some folks would be devastating. Thank you for sharing sir
Great video with explanation of why you carry what you carry. We created the Titan 10 mile challenge to test our personal kits. Would love to see you take it on and
See whats a pro and con after 10 miles/ what you would add or take away
Your presentation benefits from your great attitude. I have watched a ton of these clips, so of course the content is repetitive, as it should. Your advice is sound. I especially like the inclusion of your pretty well behaved family in the background. Keep up the very good work. Now I have to look for more or your work.
I appreciate that!
Not noticed a comment here regarding 5:42 where a young Son's hand slips across and pinches his Dads Payday treat from right under Dads nose... lmao
Affordable, healthy, shelf stable, no cook food to stick in emergency bag is a pound of Walnut Halves, 3000 calories mostly protein & fat.
I really have only one grandson with me when I go away from home but he is 17 and a lot bigger then me so he can carry lot more gear.
smooth grab at 5:30 young man
Hello Jason. I've just come across your video. You strike me as a great family man and father. Qualities that seem lacking in this day and age. I am brought back to these same adventures I had with my sons. We cherish those adventures greatly. Have faith that your teaching as a father, and your prayers as a father will protect them. This is the best "PREPPING" we can do. All the best to you and your family, Love in Christ,
Josh Smith
Thanks so much!
Would love to see a vid on Your truck and cap set up. Looks like a service truck. Maybe You've done one and Your Audience could direct me. Many Thanks to All.
Looks like a great kit, good job brother. But for me personally, I prefer INCH bags to Bug out bags or get home bags. Because if you're ready for anything, then should the worst happen or you find out your home is gone, you can focus on plan b. Plus mine is geared towards my bushcraft skills.
I like an esbit stove, tabs are light & easier than fuel stove.
Death is in my pack .A gortex bivy bag, a long handled spoon,water proof matches,a brucks hatchet a small razor sharp knife for cleaning game freeze dried grub and a water purification system a Katadyn and a straw after that good luck.☺️
Just to add, if You run out of fuel or time is of essence, those dehydrated meals can have unheated water added an hour or two before making camp and will be edible without the boiling water. Called cold soaking
Good call!
Like Crocodile Dundee says >>
Tastes like 💩 but U can live on it.
Same here!!!! 😅
Curious where you filmed this video. Its beautiful and I would love to visit the area.
Do each of your family members have the same bag with food for themselves? How do you carry enough for your whole family? This doesn’t seem realistic for a large family. For example, two freeze dried meals won’t last 24 hours with a family.