What's REALLY Missing? - Tesla Model 3 SR+ (2021)
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- What are the big differences between a Standard Range Plus Tesla and a Long Range Model? What do you get in the full Premium Interior that you don't get in the Partial Premium interior? Is the extra range and bigger battery worth about $10K more? Let's take a deep dive into the Model 3 SR+ and see everything you get and don't get.
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Me: long range sounds best for me
My wallet: you want a bicycle
I attended a battery presentation where one of the speakers referred to concerns about battery size as psychological. Well over 90% of our trips are under 100 miles. When I go further, I can charge. Spending $10K on an extra 100 miles of range that I’ll use twice a year is not a good investment.
but cars are not an investment for most people, they are just commodities.
That was exactly the logic I used and ended up deciding on the SR+. It comes down to what your regular driving will be, rather than buying for the exception.
The 10k gets you a lot more than just 100 miles of charge
Yeah but. The 2nd motor and awd is also included in the 10K and the 2nd motor and awd is very useful for offroad etc
Well that and the car itself will _TELL_ you that you need to charge and redirect you to the nearest charging station as soon as it gets to a certain battery level... so range anxiety shouldn't be that big of an issue.
When you also plug in the actual distances between the 2 models, you're only saving like an extra charge or 2 at most per trip (assuming you don't go cross country).
A trip I plugged in with the Model 3 SR+ from my house to Disney World would take about two 15 minute charges. The LR would only take one 15 minute charge.
$10k to save an extra 15 minute charge? No thanks....
I'd say it's AWD, range, speed, then sound. Minnesota weather.
Where i live, there is a government rebate for 8000 $ off for the SR+ and no rebate for the higher models. So for sure, the SR+ would be a better deal...
Where is this? My state literally has no EV incentives :(
Its in Canada Quebec. We get $5000 rebate from Federal gov. and $ 8000 rebate from Quebec gov. But we do have 15% sales tax. That is why i decided to get a model 3 soon.
I live in Arizona and we get no incentive to buy other than.. Wait for it... Access to the HOV lane with only 1 person in the car.. Yeah this state feels that access a lane thats usually pretty empty regularly is worth a lot of value.
@@thomasng4952 this is the exact situation I'm in. I move to Quebec in July (but need to live there 3 months to be an official citizen) so order is delayed to November.
Model 3 SR+ all the way!
Rebate is going right into FSD purchase
In Poland for instance SR+ costs 199.000 PLN (44.500 euro) that is ok for government bonus for EVs cheaper than 225.000 PLN (50.000 euro). So you can get a bonus of 18.500 PLN (4.150 euro). Long Range exceeds gov level because costs 245.000 PLN (54.500 euro). So SR+ is even more affordable in comparision to LR: 54.500 - 44.500 = 10.000 euro + 4.150 grant = 14.150 euro difference!
Great Video, But the new Model 3 LFP Battery is a game changer. Range is still less but better plus you can charge to 100% everyday rather than 80-90% and very little degradation over time. After a few years you may even have a better range than the Long Range. The Long Range will still be faster, have 4 wheel drive and the sound system is brilliant. But the range is much less of an issue. Keep up the great work and Thank You.
I live in Texas where it's hot almost year around and I only drive 5000 miles a year, so it made the most sense for me to go with the SR+. Really bummed about the audio though, already looking into upgrading it.
Excellent video. No bs just straight and to the point.
I ordered my Model 3 SR+ in early March. Supposed to arrive in May; cant wait!! Great Video, too ^^
Thanks! Congrats on your car!!!
Why is yours taking so long, mine came 2 weeks after ordering
@@fareedsayegh503 I don’t know. On the website it said delivery: may. Now I have to wait. They gave me a call and offered me March. But my infrastructure was not ready. So I denied. What a fool I have been. Now they gave me another call. I takes until may/June 😰
2021 M3 LR AWD owner here - 3000 miles in 19 days. Def worth getting the bigger battery for road trips!
Thanks for the great video. Now I don't have to go and look up all the specs! I wish they would list them all and let you. compare them on the website!
Thanks Terri!
Great video, very informative. The three specific items you mentioned, range, performance and sound system are must haves for me. Going with the LR.
SR+ for me. Test drove it today and the sound system was great.
I ordered my SR+ on March. I've spend about 350 bucks for accessories and piled them up in the basement while waiting for the actual car :)
When did you pick it up? Are you happy with it?
@@benfarrow9498 June 21...100% happy
I work from home, so the SR+ is going to be perfect for me. Can’t wait to pick it up at the end of May! Thanks for the great overview 👊🏼
Same. I drive about 120 miles a week, so this car will be perfect.
When did you order it?
@@ryankierulf8942 Ordered it end of Feb and it arrived end of April
How is your brand new Tesla??!
@@Tionaintown876 It’s too good haha
Great Video! I did a test drive with LR and loved the acceleration and sound but I bought the SR+ and the acceleration and of course the sound is not the same but hey it is pretty decent, I'm really happy that I went for the SR+, thanks for the referral code btw I got free supercharging hope you got'em as well
I just ordered the 2021 Model 3 long range. One of the benefits that sounds good to me is that it charges faster because it holds more electrons.
As the Model 3 is our main car and we live in New Mexico (not a lot of superchargers), the LR was worth the extra.
Good video, recently heard the difference on the audio and it is vastly different. Wish I could upgrade that elsewhere as I'm not concerned by the range or fog lamps or the 0-60 or rear heated seats / heated steering wheel. I'm driving so impossible to ride in the back!!! But 10k for a better stereo is a big no. - The connectivity will only be of real use when there is a full suite of apps such as Amazon Music / Apple Music etc. As I don't subscribe to Spotify.
Sound is very important to me too which is why I was always looking at the premium LR but ouch
I have been looking at the tesla model 3 for over a year now and the points you made it clear to me that I should get the long range if I ever get one.
Excellent comparison and on point! Ordered the LR for differences you outlined. Picked it up one week ago and it is a blast. The acceleration and sound systems are outstanding. Very happy with my choice. You mentioned nickel and dime for the minor changes, but that is no different than other manufacturers. Just had the homelink installed today. Seems to me that Tesla could have increased the price for “full premium” to include this option and no one would be the wiser.
Congrats on the car!
Congrats and I love my LR too…worth every penny.
I would amend this to say that the most important differences in 2021 are 1 Range 2 Acceleration (not speed) and 3 Dual motor AWD (for winter driving). I had read that the SR+ now comes with the premium sound system. I have a 2019 SR+
It is not the full premium sound system unless they changed that in the last few weeks since I got mine.
I have read several places that you need to pay extra to have the whole sound system activated. But it is in there just not working until you pay extra. Like the rear seat warmers are there but not working until you pay the $300
Haha you got me... I was gonna tell you about your spelling mistake in your thumbnail, but then I realized it was intentional. Very cool!
Must be getting old .....I missed intentional mistake.
now I feel bad, cuz I didn't even read the upper part only saw the "LR vs SR+".
You have not discussed about the weight difference. LR is 230kg heavier and it was deal-breaker to me.
That's like 3 adults always sitting in your car. That is pretty significant
Just received my model 3 2021 LR here in Toronto and love it ! Glad I got the Long range well worth it
Nice!
x2 I got mine 3/31 and 100% happy with the LR power and sound system!
i got the sr+ 2021 and is more than enough. 80% lasts me for 1 week.
@Eric vancouver, bc
What's your commute?
I agree 110%. In 2017 when MS was more expensive, I had to make very similar decision. Range wasn’t important as we don’t do many road trips and have an ice backup too. To get lease in my budget, dual motor, FSD, hepa air filter, and largest battery were eliminated. I got a RWD S75 with about 240 mi range and have loved it. Installing a home charger helps considerably. Since lease was done, had same issue on ms refresh between long range and plaid. No brainer again as 3rd motor, insane acceleration, less range, etc isn’t worth $40k more to me. Hell, for $40k more I could buy both a new ms and m3. Can’t wait to get yoke!
In Ontario Canada it works out to be a $17,000 diff from SR+ to the LR -- the standard qualifies for the federal 5k grant but the LR didn't - made my choice of the 2021 SR+ much easier
How's the supercharger charging rate with it? Will it get to to 150kwh charging at some points? Do you happen to know how long it takes to get from 20-80% at a supercharger?
Mine charging has peaked at 160kw on a 150 charger but only in the 20/30% full so a couple of minutes (never visited a 250) -- slowest charge i recall was 45mins (cold out and cold battery) -- fastest 20-80 time just under 30 mins
I like to travel to theme/amusement parks so the LR is a no brainer for me
I got the SR+ in Red with White interior, but I'll definitely upgrade to a performance in a couple of years.
Is it a 2021? How's the supercharger charging rate with it? Will it get to to 150kwh charging at some points?
@@danielcdeyoung it's fantastic. It does hit 150kw just fine but it'll taper off depending on your charge. I get full charge from ~20% to 85% in about 30 minutes or less.
@Hot Potato Sr+ doesn't come with the fog lights. Only LR and up I think?
@Hot Potato I don't really need them where I live.
How the hell can someone justify 10k for 90 miles?
Ha ha easy! Charges faster and drives further between charges…no brainer. AND, my music sounds so good! I love my LR, worth every penny.
SR+ delivered in Norway today, has the same soundsystem as LR. All the speakers, and boombox.
how come?
I also read reviews that it comes with the same sound system but deactivated. Like the rear heated seats, you have to pay to get it activated on the lower Model 3
@@Handrack that would be really amazing
With the crappy, half-arsed levels of charging infrastructure in Australia, and the vast distances involved, *has* to be the Long Range AWD. Also helps lend longevity to the battery.
Yesterday the SR+ was 41,990. Now as of October 23 2021 its 43,990. I think the added the price increase because the demand is so high the delivery date is april 2022. Meanwhile the long range is 49,990. So now that the gap is closer its more worth the long range.
Excellent video and answered most of the questions I would have in deciding whether to purchase Standard Range Plus vs. Long Range Model!
Thank you!
I have the SR+ and I'm happy with everything except the sound system. I'm looking to replace the door and dash speakers with something better and see if that helps and whether I really need a subwoofer. I'm not a fan of subs so if I don't need one I wouldn't get it. They just go boom boom unless you have a good quality sub and tuned and integrated perfectly, and that is hard to do.
Is the sound system really that bad?
@@josephramirez3810 I just don't find the sound satisfying. It can be OK but anything with any kind of low end just sounds like there is something missing. The door speakers are 8" and should be able to produce decent bass but they don't. Focal makes something that fits, but I can't get a straight answer on whether it is worth bothering. The box is as important as the driver when it comes to bass and the doors aren't the best box on any car.
@@bklyncyclist I am in your exact same situation!
What did you end up buying to improve your sound? Thank you
@@chezchezchezchez I haven't bought anything yet, but some people have used the Focal ISU 200 in the doors with good results and Infinity 4032 dash mid-tweeters. But the bigger concern has been the quality of the digital inputs. The streaming options in the car are all very low res, the Bluetooth is only slightly better. Only having music on a USB stick will get you true hi-res. What I want to do is stream Qobuz into the system in full hi-res but there is no way to do that while moving. I can get a preview of how much better it sounds while in park through the browser but once you push down on the shift lever it stops.
One thing worth mentioning is Supercharging speed. Sure the Standard has an OK range, but sitting at SC the last 90-100% takes "forever", where as you can leave the SC at 80% with a LR and still have better range then the SR at 100%.. Just a thought if you are going to do lots of travel in any Tesla. :)
I usually enjoy most of your videos. However, I think you missed a few key difference between the SR+ and LR versions. Specifically, besides having a larger battery, the LR version charges much more quickly than the SR+. That means that not only would you have less charging stops when making a road trip, but each of those stops will be shorter due to the quicker charging speed. Also, you mentioned that the two cars are identical in looks. However, the badging on the LR has "Dual Motor" on the back trunk, so that's certainly a noticeable difference. Lastly, the LR All-wheel drive is not only for colder climates, but will give you better traction and safety on rainy days or if in mud. Just my thoughts...
I had my SR+ for about a year and I HAD to get rid of it. The range was horrible, it barely charges at 300mph, the car had ZERO traction any remotely slick surface, it was a sad attempt at a surround sound system, and in general I have a whole list of items that made me upgrade. HOWEVER I will say this, for the money there is not a better car on the road that you can buy. That's my 2sense. Great video Robert
So in B.C. Canada the difference in price is $52k vs $64k and the Gov incentive cuts off at $55k - that’s an $8k bonus. So now the difference is approx $20k. I was surprised to see how little the front wheels contribute to the actual driving on an AWD M3. If you plug in at home everyday and drive less than 200 miles to work & back - well the SR+ is for me. Nice review/comparison 👍
You can adjust where the power goes to... you can actually make it 100% front wheel drive
@@leonreynoso9891 wow, I’ve never heard that. That is amazing 👍
@@leonreynoso9891 only with the performance M3
@@davidreidenberg9941 ahhh thanks for the info ... I have a m3 performance ... just assumed it was on any dual motor
In Canada is more like a $13k difference with EV credits that get capped above the SR+
Give me two weeks so I can give you feedback on my first road trip 2400 miles from home round-trip in my standard range plus 2019 model 3. Looking forward to this trip next Tuesday.
Hey how’d it go? I’m interested in standard range
@no name smooth as can be. No range anxiety, no issues charging and good tome. I have a video on my channel. Its short but to the point.
My Tesla Delivery Person (not sure that’s her official title), told me our SR+ will come with the heated steering wheel, but maybe I heard wrong. I’m emailing her to confirm.
I’ve heard rumors that they do come with it and soon you will be able to pay to unlock it.
In 2019 the long range did not have heated steering wheel. Now (2021) it does.
Hopefully someday will get a performance model 3.
If you're someone who never really needs the rear seat heaters for whatever reason, I guess you'd totally be okay not having to pay extra $300 as part of the selling price of the car, and save that money. If you decide you want the heaters in the rear seats, you can then pay extra. Just makes the car a tad bit more affordable.
Thanks for this helpful information.
I work about 10 minutes from home so SR would fit me perfectly but there are times, as my wife and I are getting older, we like to get on the road so the LR is a better option.
I live in Virginia and I've only driven my current car to SC, NJ, DC and MD. But that being said I'd like to have a car incan get as much mileage from and make less stops to charge.
While I'm not a true audiophile I do like premium sound in my car. I have a 600w self powered sub in my current car and each bedroom I have a TV in I have a theater sound system on them. My wife on the other hand doesn't care about all that stuff.
I'm considering a Tesla LR next year but I also got my eye on the Nissan Ariya, Kia EV6 and maybe even the Hyundai Ioniq 5 as well as the VW ID 4. So wonderful to have choices.
New SR+ owner here. I’d consider myself an audiophile, and while admittedly the LR is better, it’s worth noting that the SR+ is still better than most cars in general. Coming from a Kia Soul and a wife who drives a Kia Sportage, my SR+ still blows those sound systems out of the water. Interestingly, I think the new 2021 features available for all new models are even better than like a 2020 LR model. Heat pump, motorized trunk, and chrome delete are amazing.
Is it a 2021? How's the supercharger charging rate with it? Will it get to to 150kwh charging at some points? Do you happen to know how long it takes to get from 20-80% at a supercharger?
The foot well lights on my 2019 SR+ come on for about a second and then turn off. Like you say another Tesla nickel and dime goodie.
Can you ask if any of your followers have wired them to the lights at the bottom of the doors?
Can u cool the seats and steering instead of heating them?
Excellent overview!
Like you, I weighed the options v the cost and went with the SR+, which was delivered last Friday. I’m loving the car, and it certainly tickles my tech button big time!
I certainly understand those who go with the LR or the P version. So this is just my very humble opinion. Like you said, each person should weigh the cost v benefits, consider what’s important and essential, and then choose.
I think it’s safe to say, no matter what version you get, chances are you’ll be very happy with the car. I sure am!
I do want to get an EV and probably a Tesla. I do, however, find the way they dole out features kind of gimmicky. I.e. having the hardware and simply not enabling it. The SR+ is already an expensive car. But, I suspect competition will eventually dictate their approach.
SR+ Cars are being delivered with floor mats since April 2021 @Robert Rosenfeld!
I originally thought I was going to get the LR but based on my average miles driven each day/week, I ended up getting the 2021 SR+. The sound system is decent and acceleration is nice. I love my car and don't regret getting it. But I do know that my next one will be a LR mainly for the better sound system. The faster acceleration would be good too! I thought it was bootleg for Tesla to not include heated steering wheel or floor mats in the SR+ but what do I know. But what I do love about this car is the options to customize it.
Agree! Total bummer the steering wheel is not heated .
you didnt seem to mention the duel motor with all wheel drive surely this is one of the major extras?
I’m loving my long rang audio, never even considered the SR..
So you bought a EV for a radio??
The AWD would have cost me after taxes another 10K on top of the 48K I already paid for the SR+. Even if I go 2 vegas I still must charge at least once even with the Long range! Honestly I did an overnight with the model S LR, the SR+ M3 & the AWD long range M3 & for my lifestyle & 80% of ppls lifestyles all they would need is a SR+! I've never had range anxiety at all as I know what my car can do. 2 miles per 1% so I get 200 miles on a charge give or take. The 90 extra or really 60miles of real world miles is definitely not worth it!! Its mainly for ppl. Who live in snow & need AWD. If you drive over 200miles per day with Uber or Lyft or another company then deff. Get the LR in black so you can do Uber Black & lyft luxury! Figure out which 1 best fits your lifestyle & surroundings. Remember after taxes, loans, destination fees, registration fees, etc. The car is way more then 38K! This went up for me 2 47K then I got the seats white leather for 1K & even after the rebates it was 42K... not a cheap car & I had 2 put dwn 9K to get 500 per month payments! The AWD is 800 per mo. Easy if you only put dwn the least of 4.5K! Great car but make sure you can charge it at home! If not it will be an inconvenience 4sure!
Long Range all the way! Now I just need to be able to afford it
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Great video!
Thanks, Jonah!
Tesla Björn just got a SR+ 2021 and he said that the sound system is the same as the long range. He will soon make several videos for the SR+. So have a look out for thoose.
Interesting. They still have different specs on the website. Will check it out!
I just sold my model 3 SR+ and bought a Long Range I can definitely tell difference especially with songs with a lot of bass. If you don’t care about audio you won’t notice the difference but if you are like me and like to turn it up every once in a while when the music gets good!!
@@amirtz3342 true but you did not sell a 2021 SR+. To streamline production Tesla is now making all cars almost the same.
I have 2021 SR+ and can tell for sure audio system is not same. You can hear difference easily when comparing to 2021 LR
@@OutdoorswithJussi interesting. We have to wait for Björn to test the new SR+ he just picked up. Maybe it is a China build.
Model 3 LR is currently $68000 in the UK 😞
FYI - In Australia SR+ starts from about $72k.
Least Tesla could do is throw in cheap mats ffs
I got my performance and I love it, I feel like they could've done more by giving us more accessories. Spending 75k for a car should be getting the most out of it.
Performance if you love speed and popularity.
Long range if you're travelers and wants a little fun.
Standard if you're just trying to go for EV and trying something new.
my performance is sweet aswell and fun to drive.
Do you regret standard range ?
The S is really missing from your thumbnail
I think it’s also important to mention that the SR+ is rear wheel drive and the long range is all wheel drive. I have the long range and it’s worth every penny.
do you have the 2021? I am considering on buying a used long range 2019 just to afford the car. Is that a bad idea or is it better to buy the 2021 sr+ if that is the only thing i can afford? I mean , the long range without the heat pump and the new with pump, is the range still that much better on lr?
@@AzizIzgin dont buy used right now. They are going for more rhan brand new
@@jlpkbrb1086 in Sweden I get a used for around 44000euro LR and a brand new sr+ is at 55000-7000 climate bonus=48000euro. So it will be cheaper.
But one thing I noticed is that if I’d import the car from Norway it is cheaper including taxes and extra fees… the only downside is the insurance get more expensive…
This is tricky for me… I’m Sweden insurance gets very expensive the 4th year with sportier cars … I rather don’t want to swap cars every three years but I might just have to or rethink and buy a less sporty car like id4. But when looking at id4 it’s even more expensive 😅
There’s no win situation in Sweden 🇸🇪
None of 2021 LR versions here have heated steering wheel
Is this a re-upload...didn't you make the same video a few months ago. Sr+ owners look online, you can find wiring harnesses to turn on those unused speakers
I’ve made similar videos, just wanted to do a new one covering everything for 2021
I believe that in the 2021 SR+ they actually leave the speakers out of the build (previously they were there, just not turned on).
@@2kenco no they are there. You can still get it for 21'...only rear deck speakers not there
I'd rather buy all weather floor mats anyway.
This whole video could have been condensed into about 1 minute
Meanwhile in EU model 3 SR+ 48.690€/57,253.72 US Dollars
Lol bass at the full 6?
I drove the Performance on a test drive and had to have bass at like 2, otherwise it sounded boomy. The sub may have had something to do with it though.
I have heated seats and wheel on my Leaf Tekna with Bose (it sounds okay) so I couldn't be without them
If I could afford it I’d do SR+.
Went with performance model and there’s no turning back!!
How do u save money by them charging you for rear heated seats??? Stop being an apologist!!
This dudes voice damn
6:45 to see the differences, thank me later.
Also; how the hell could you wait until 6:45 to come to the case? Holy shit man
the "extras" amount to close to $15k, so its actually the LR that's a better value
Idk how many of the same video need to be uploaded 🤣🤣
Should have got a LR...I got LR with FSD last week model y
the second i got my long range i started looking down on anyone driving a gas car.
Regarding no mats! Has anyone asked Elon about this? Even to a Tesla fan, this sounds incredibly half baked and unprofessional to the max!
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Fake news not real time range
Christ, I wasn't prepared for that accent. Hard to listen to.
$10 more per mile (range). Lease either one. Don't buy. Tech is evolving too fast.
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The Long range model 3's can not be ordered at this time. Only the standard range 267mi is currently available.
Tesla uses the extra batteries to make another car at $10K profit instead of a long range for just a few thousand dollars extra.
The base model price has also gone up to $40,390 as or OCT 2022
In BC Canada there is a 8,000 instinctive as welll so the cost difference is close to 18000 difference. I went with the SR+ and have been pretty happy with it so far. We will see how the winter holds out with the rear wheel driving!
3 things.....RANGE-----RANGE------ OH AND RANGE
I went with the white SR+ with the white interior. I’m also getting the Tesla charging station installed at my house. With my own personal charging station I won’t ever have to worry about running out of battery. Plus Tesla cars are always changing. Like 5 years from the 2026 Model 3 will probably be a lot different than the current models. I take that $10k I saved and put it towards a new Model 3 4 or 5 years from now
Is it a 2021? How's the supercharger charging rate with it? Will it get to to 150kwh charging at some points? Do you happen to know how long it takes to get from 20-80% at a supercharger?
@@danielcdeyoung im still waiting for mine to be delivered haha
Just want to add this as an important difference. 2021 SR+ model (at least here in Norway) is made in China, with a new battery type which can be daily charged to 100% battery (recommended by Tesla at least once a week) while the LR uses different battery type and is only recommended to be charged 80-90% on daily. So for me sticking with the SR+ makes the difference a little smaller for everyday range compared to LR
Wife is getting a new company car. SR+ is in the budget, LR isn't. So our decision is an SR+ or no Tesla. Easy...
I have a 2018 Mercedes C300 Sport. I love the sound. Does anyone know if the SR+ sound system comparable to that?
I got SRY, partly because it was cancelled, and partially because I wanted to more fully understand whether my bias against short range stood up to actual experience.
We took a 4,800 mile road trip in the y, and it does charge a little bit slower, and it tends to be way over conservative and how much charge it needs to make the next destination.
It also feels lighter and more fun to drive. The long range why feels heavy and boaty.
SRY is full premium interior, seats, sound system, steering wheel, and fog lights are all active.
I don't use the floor mats that came with either car. 3d are way better
hope you can help me decide,
i am currently driving a subaru impreza, i average 130 to 170 miles daily monday to friday,
im planning on giving my subaru to my daughter, not really particular about rwd and awd even though i live in indiana, im used to driving in winter. my concern is, will a model 3 standard range enough for my daily consumption? i drive all over, a mixture of city, country and highway.
And a long range awd model 3 is to pricey for my intended usage for the car,
thank you
Thank you for this video!! This helped me make my decision with the LRM3! 🙏
I have a 2021 Long Range Model 3 and I don't have a heated steering wheel. When did this feature get added?
Seems to be very recently
@@RobertRosenfeld1 Well that could be the case. My Tesla has been in the shop for over 6 weeks so I have not seen the updates. Still have approx. 2 weeks left in the repair.