Lately I started keeping a Z2X in my car. It’s a reliable point and shoot film camera. Your photos are really nice, no matter what gear you use to make them.
Thank you for bringing a diffrent perspective in photography. I like how you did not alow the camera to dictate your photography but instead listened to your inner self to move forward with your creativity and what works best for you. I also have the M7 and have enjoyed it very much but I tend to use my Contax G2 much more often because it's less that I have to think about and can capture what I see much faster with excellent results.
I feel you so much. I really felt like it was dictating my photography in a sense. I’m happy I ditched it and came move on with the camera that matches my needs. For now it’s a point and shoot and and SLR, no need for a rangefinder :) I hope you’re happy with the G2
@@TobiasHolzweiler It's funny, the only Leicas I've ever owned have been models developed by or with other companies. I had a CL (also a Minolta design) for a while, but the prices of M mount glass scared me. Now I am down to my old Z2X, which I've owned since new in the 1990s, and a Digilux 2 (rebadged Panasonic). Love them both.
The Z2X was one of my first point and shoots, and ever since I sold it, I've missed the infinity lock function. Such a great feature, and for some reason, so rare.
i dont think ive ever, in all my years of taking film photos (since 2017), heard of someone's first camera being a leica let alone a leice m6. so lucky and fortunate to enter analog photography with one of the best (if not the best) machines avaliable. im also happy for you - you have not oy honoured your growth but found grounding in it. that is something to really celebrate :)
thank you so much for your kind words my friend. i was extremely fortunate obviously, but I really wanted to learn about the full, slow, analog experience with one of the best (if not the best) camera. I've learned so much from it and now I'm so happy giving it to someone else
Schön dass du das sagst Stephan. Ich denke auch dass nicht viele diesen Schritt gehen würden, aber irgendwie fühlen sich Kontroverse Entscheidungen manchmal total gut an :)
Yes yes yes! Love the video Tobias. We already talked about it in the comments of another video, but I totally agree with the freedom thing you mentioned.
Love the video! I have a feeling I watched it in the right time when I have same thoughts "what is mine" and "what is not mine anymore" We tend to collect things, but it's great to let them go too. For new excitements
Hi Tobias! Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us all. I'm glad to hear you're embracing the feeling of change. I'll be looking forward to seeing where that takes you. Aaaand one question - when acquiring did EOS 3, did you look into the EOS 1N/V? If so, what made you get the 3?
Thank you so much for watching the video and taking the time to leave a comment. I really appreciate it. When I pick up the Canon, I didn’t look too much into other SLR cameras to be honest, a friend recommended it to me :)
@@TobiasHolzweiler Thanks for taking your time to reply. With the great results you've shown here as well as those I've seen elsewhere, I just might acquire one my self. Have a good one :))
I feel this. I have an M6 but my preference is to shoot my Nikon 35Ti and Canon EOS 7s in combination. Just pointing and shooting is so much more convenient and fun. I have had a lot of expensive cameras, even medium format ones, that I paid a lot for and moved them on because they are impractical and just sit on the shelf. But I'm not quite ready to do this with the Leica. I would rather just enjoy shooting a roll every now and then, maybe once a month, rather than sell it.
I totally see your point, and I see myself in it. To me it feels good to get rid of old gear that I don’t under anymore, even if it’s a Leica. But this has a lot to do with my own approach of trying to live only with the essentials that I need, and this goes way beyond just camera gear :)
@@TobiasHolzweiler Yeah, I was almost there a few weeks ago. Then I got my results back from a roll I shot on the Leica and I was pretty happy with them and decided to keep it. One day I'll get there. It's really not worthy of its price IMHO. And when people say it's mechanical and so it'll last forever etc, I just laugh. Some $100 point and shoots from the 90's have lasted this long and still work fine.
Der Gedanke des "Loslassens" ist ein sehr sympathischer. Jedoch stellt sich mir die Frage wieviel von mir dann noch im Ergebnis steckt. Gerade in Zeiten, in derer die KI gerade richtig Fahrt aufnimmt. Jedes gelungene Bild, sei es analog oder digital, welches ich ohne Vollautomatik oder dergleichen aufgenommen habe, verschafft mir deutlich mehr Befriedigung mit dem Ergebnis und bestätigt mich in meinen Einschätzungen.. Und wenn es nicht geklappt hat lebe ich damit, dass es meine Entscheidung war und schiebe es nicht auf die Kamera. Alles eine Sache der Einstellung. Eine gute visuelle Einschätzung der Lichtverhältnisse und Entfernung macht moderne Unterstützer überflüssig und ist im Prozess deutlich schneller. Man muß sich lediglich auf den Moment vorbereiten und kann dann fischen.
Ich verstehe deinen Punkt total Stefan und stimme dir in allen Belangen zu. Als ich damals die M6 gekauft habe, hat mich genau das die Kamera so sehr lieben lassen. Wenn man vom digitalen kommt und nur das voll automatische kennt, dann holt einen die M6 wirklich total runter und man versteht Fotografie auf einmal auf eine ganz neue Art und Weise. Ich habe jetzt so lange und intensiv damit fotografiert, und dabei für mich selber festgestellt, dass es mir Spaß macht, auch etwas von der Kontrolle abzugeben. Ich mag es sehr, wenn ich Elemente in meiner Kunst habe, die ich selber gar nicht kontrollieren kann, sondern die mehr oder weniger zufällig entstehen. Ich finde, dass die Arbeiter dadurch noch einzigartiger wird. Aber wie gesagt, das ist meine eigene Ansicht darauf, und vor ein paar Jahren sah ich alles noch ganz genauso wie du :)
@@TobiasHolzweiler Ich meine nicht ganz, da ich mit analogen Point&Shoots groß geworden bin. Und sowohl damals meine MjuII als auch heute mein Smartphone vermögen nicht das einzufangen was meine Augen real sehen und wahrnehmen. Wir werden diesbezüglich also sicherlich nicht eins. Deine äusserst ausführliche und freundliche Antwort erfreut mich übrigens sehr. Im heutigen Social-Media-Sumpf alles andere als selbstverständlich.👍
Hey, interessanter Gedanke! 💭 Bin noch an dem Punkt, wo ich die reine Mechanik und die damit verbundene entschleunigte Arbeitsweise so schätze, dass ich sie oft meinen digitalen Kameras vorziehe. Besonders bei freien Projekten.. aktuell gehe ich mit ner großen Mittelformat raus und brauch für eine Rolle nen halben Tag, einfach weil es so geil ist alles in Ruhe zu komponieren. Aber verstehe deinen Approach voll und ganz. Gutes Video, hoffe wir laufen uns irgendwann mal über den Weg :) Grüße, Joshua
Hey Joshua, versteh ich zu 100%! Ist auch wirklich was ganz tolles mit komplett mechanischen und dadurch auch etwas langsameren Kameras zu arbeiten. Haha geliebt
Oh Tobias, ich wünschte ich könnte auch einiges los werden, gute Entscheidung. Wünsche Dir weiterhin Viel Erfolg und poste ab und an mal was hier. VLG, Ralf
Hi Tobias .. It's always interesting to see different peoples views, decisions and routes into photography, but .....Why Leica as a first analogue camera, as it is totally possible learn the art / trade /:craft / hobby. I started out in photography back in the late 1970s, and people never had a Hasselblad or Leica as their first camera (obviously no digital cameras then) because it made no sense as my cheap Zenith E (Russian bombproof and very reliable) with 28mm, 56mm and 135mm let me learn nearly everything I needed to learn. I've shot on just about every major brand and format (inc 5x4 & 10x8 Sinar P system and Hasselblad 501c and ELM) .. Fast forward to 2024 and I still prefer shooting with cheap and older gear because it is just a box with a shutter and a lens at the end of the day. 2024 also see me becoming a Leica M6 Titanium owner and only because I won it in a prize draw for the princely sum of £20, and it's a camera that I would never of owned if I had to pay the full price for.
Thank you so much for your comment, my friend. I completely agree. Everyone has his own journey with cameras, especially in this abundance of gear that we have those these days. I also think there’s no right or wrong when it comes to picking up your first camera and even the 10th camera, everyone makes their own experiences. I can refer to your common very much because I feel the same about cameras these days :)
this video is basically what the developers of automatic cameras thought of when they designed and created them ;) less thinking about the mechanism per se but more on the execution.
Recently purchased Coca-Cola point-and-shoot 35mm camera, The shots from here were so unperfect, but they had a lot of charm, that's probably the thing we miss with sterile modern asph lenses. So I definitely know what you mean :)
THE truth is that you don't need a Leica to take good photos.. but I know there are people who really believe that.. especially for social media :-) Good light with any camera you shoot with ;-)
I don’t really think that there are many people that think that it makes a big difference for the pictures if you use a Leica or not. Most people use it because of the feeling that you have while using it. I took some of my best pictures with point and shoots but the Leica is sometimes the best motivator for me to go out and take pictures because it just feels soooo good.
@@TobiasHolzweilerI shoot with Leica M4 and M6 for more than 20 years .. but when I asked how much one shop could be pay for my M6 titan I sold it 😅 to that shop
Interesting video. I enjoy my M7 very much and I absolutely can’t imagine giving it away. 😊 Still always using a point and shoot too. Why did you choose the Z2X and not another point and shoot? The canon cameras are just insane but sooooo ugly.😅 They are clearly fantastic work tools though.
My local Camera store happened to have the Z2X that’s why I picked it up. Otherwise it would have been a mju zoom or something else with a decent lens :)
I'm sorry, absolutely no hate, but if Leica M6 or M7 where your FIRST film cameras, you are (or where) either a snob and /or you have too much money to spend. And that Z2X is your redemption. Coming from photographer who's in film for almost 50 years, just saying. Gruß
Hey man, thank you so much for your comment. I picked up the six back then because I was used to shoot the Leica Q for a couple years and therefore wanted to make my first steps with the M system. My decision back then was also very much influenced by some of my favorite photographers who shot on the M6 as well. Therefore, I don’t think that I was a snob but I was very enthusiastic about the learning a new camera system from Leica :)
@@TobiasHolzweiler Fair enough. But see, there's the problem - people on the internet overhype some camera, and that drives the price of it sky high. I'll give you an example - why is it that Leica M3, a nearly 70 years old camera, costs 3 or 4 times more on average than the Leica IIIf, which is, other than the mount and few other small defences, the same camera. On the other hand, you are over that, so I'll not beat a dead horse...
@@tomislavmiletic_ you're right, some cameras are overhyped for some weird reasons. in my next video I'll talk about some real talk about the M6/M7 and how hard they actually are to shoot
Lately I started keeping a Z2X in my car. It’s a reliable point and shoot film camera.
Your photos are really nice, no matter what gear you use to make them.
Thanks you so much, I appreciate your kind words! ☺️ I also love the Z2X too for being very reliable. And the lens seems to be very good
Love my M3 and M4. Quiet and precise.
Nothing to add 🙏🏻
Thank you for bringing a diffrent perspective in photography. I like how you did not alow the camera to dictate your photography but instead listened to your inner self to move forward with your creativity and what works best for you. I also have the M7 and have enjoyed it very much but I tend to use my Contax G2 much more often because it's less that I have to think about and can capture what I see much faster with excellent results.
I feel you so much. I really felt like it was dictating my photography in a sense. I’m happy I ditched it and came move on with the camera that matches my needs. For now it’s a point and shoot and and SLR, no need for a rangefinder :) I hope you’re happy with the G2
The Z2X is a rebadged Minolta, by the way. I only recently rediscovered mine, which I’ve had since new in the mid 1990s.
Oh I didn’t know!! Very interesting ☺️
@@TobiasHolzweiler It's funny, the only Leicas I've ever owned have been models developed by or with other companies. I had a CL (also a Minolta design) for a while, but the prices of M mount glass scared me. Now I am down to my old Z2X, which I've owned since new in the 1990s, and a Digilux 2 (rebadged Panasonic). Love them both.
@@djtoman6875 sounds like some very trusty cameras you have there :)
The Z2X was one of my first point and shoots, and ever since I sold it, I've missed the infinity lock function. Such a great feature, and for some reason, so rare.
You’re so right, I just started using it more frequently. Is so handy for a point and shoot!!
i dont think ive ever, in all my years of taking film photos (since 2017), heard of someone's first camera being a leica let alone a leice m6. so lucky and fortunate to enter analog photography with one of the best (if not the best) machines avaliable. im also happy for you - you have not oy honoured your growth but found grounding in it. that is something to really celebrate :)
thank you so much for your kind words my friend. i was extremely fortunate obviously, but I really wanted to learn about the full, slow, analog experience with one of the best (if not the best) camera. I've learned so much from it and now I'm so happy giving it to someone else
You freed yourself. Welcome to paradise. I left my Leica Ms, Qs and SLs behind too.
🙏🏻 you’re on the right path
Hey Tobi, thank you for sharing :) Beautiful video. And proudly 8:22 hangs in my living room
🥹💌 thank you so much
Wonderful video, wonderful thoughts - as always. Thanks Tobi for sharing!
It will always be a pleasure my friend 💌
Interessante Einstellung/Überlegung - völlig nachvollziehbar und doch so fremd in unserer heutigen Zeit.
Schön dass du das sagst Stephan. Ich denke auch dass nicht viele diesen Schritt gehen würden, aber irgendwie fühlen sich Kontroverse Entscheidungen manchmal total gut an :)
Why spend $7K on a camera? There’s SO many options.
that’s true. But everyone need to make their own experiences
Yes yes yes! Love the video Tobias. We already talked about it in the comments of another video, but I totally agree with the freedom thing you mentioned.
Totally agree! Thank you Jonas ☺️
Love the video! I have a feeling I watched it in the right time when I have same thoughts "what is mine" and "what is not mine anymore"
We tend to collect things, but it's great to let them go too. For new excitements
So true! I‘m glad I could help you out with my video. It’s essential to reflect on the past and let things go to make new things happen ☺️
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, opinions, your beautiful pictures and this incredible video. Keep going.
Thank you so much! ☺️☺️♥️
Hi Tobias! Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us all. I'm glad to hear you're embracing the feeling of change. I'll be looking forward to seeing where that takes you. Aaaand one question - when acquiring did EOS 3, did you look into the EOS 1N/V? If so, what made you get the 3?
Thank you so much for watching the video and taking the time to leave a comment. I really appreciate it. When I pick up the Canon, I didn’t look too much into other SLR cameras to be honest, a friend recommended it to me :)
@@TobiasHolzweiler Thanks for taking your time to reply. With the great results you've shown here as well as those I've seen elsewhere, I just might acquire one my self. Have a good one :))
I feel this. I have an M6 but my preference is to shoot my Nikon 35Ti and Canon EOS 7s in combination. Just pointing and shooting is so much more convenient and fun. I have had a lot of expensive cameras, even medium format ones, that I paid a lot for and moved them on because they are impractical and just sit on the shelf. But I'm not quite ready to do this with the Leica. I would rather just enjoy shooting a roll every now and then, maybe once a month, rather than sell it.
I totally see your point, and I see myself in it. To me it feels good to get rid of old gear that I don’t under anymore, even if it’s a Leica. But this has a lot to do with my own approach of trying to live only with the essentials that I need, and this goes way beyond just camera gear :)
@@TobiasHolzweiler Yeah, I was almost there a few weeks ago. Then I got my results back from a roll I shot on the Leica and I was pretty happy with them and decided to keep it. One day I'll get there. It's really not worthy of its price IMHO. And when people say it's mechanical and so it'll last forever etc, I just laugh. Some $100 point and shoots from the 90's have lasted this long and still work fine.
@@doozledumbler5393 it's excited to see everyone's journey :)
Unrelated to the topic but what mic are you using?
Rode Podcast Mic :)
I would love to see more videos of you doing professional shoots/portraits with the Z2X!
I’m not using it for portrait shoots that much, mostly travel and street. I use the EOS3 for portraits
Just did the same thing, and just kept my Yaschica T4 and a Canon EOS 1 N for personal photography. Q2? Gone. M262? Gone. Pressure? GONE!
I feel this so much!! What a great decision
Pure goosebumps Tobi!
Thank you my friend ♥️
Der Gedanke des "Loslassens" ist ein sehr sympathischer. Jedoch stellt sich mir die Frage wieviel von mir dann noch im Ergebnis steckt. Gerade in Zeiten, in derer die KI gerade richtig Fahrt aufnimmt. Jedes gelungene Bild, sei es analog oder digital, welches ich ohne Vollautomatik oder dergleichen aufgenommen habe, verschafft mir deutlich mehr Befriedigung mit dem Ergebnis und bestätigt mich in meinen Einschätzungen.. Und wenn es nicht geklappt hat lebe ich damit, dass es meine Entscheidung war und schiebe es nicht auf die Kamera. Alles eine Sache der Einstellung. Eine gute visuelle Einschätzung der Lichtverhältnisse und Entfernung macht moderne Unterstützer überflüssig und ist im Prozess deutlich schneller. Man muß sich lediglich auf den Moment vorbereiten und kann dann fischen.
Ich verstehe deinen Punkt total Stefan und stimme dir in allen Belangen zu. Als ich damals die M6 gekauft habe, hat mich genau das die Kamera so sehr lieben lassen. Wenn man vom digitalen kommt und nur das voll automatische kennt, dann holt einen die M6 wirklich total runter und man versteht Fotografie auf einmal auf eine ganz neue Art und Weise.
Ich habe jetzt so lange und intensiv damit fotografiert, und dabei für mich selber festgestellt, dass es mir Spaß macht, auch etwas von der Kontrolle abzugeben. Ich mag es sehr, wenn ich Elemente in meiner Kunst habe, die ich selber gar nicht kontrollieren kann, sondern die mehr oder weniger zufällig entstehen. Ich finde, dass die Arbeiter dadurch noch einzigartiger wird. Aber wie gesagt, das ist meine eigene Ansicht darauf, und vor ein paar Jahren sah ich alles noch ganz genauso wie du :)
@@TobiasHolzweiler Ich meine nicht ganz, da ich mit analogen Point&Shoots groß geworden bin. Und sowohl damals meine MjuII als auch heute mein Smartphone vermögen nicht das einzufangen was meine Augen real sehen und wahrnehmen.
Wir werden diesbezüglich also sicherlich nicht eins. Deine äusserst ausführliche und freundliche Antwort erfreut mich übrigens sehr. Im heutigen Social-Media-Sumpf alles andere als selbstverständlich.👍
Absolute Gamechanger entscheidung !!
🥹🙏🏻💌
Hey, interessanter Gedanke! 💭
Bin noch an dem Punkt, wo ich die reine Mechanik und die damit verbundene entschleunigte Arbeitsweise so schätze, dass ich sie oft meinen digitalen Kameras vorziehe. Besonders bei freien Projekten.. aktuell gehe ich mit ner großen Mittelformat raus und brauch für eine Rolle nen halben Tag, einfach weil es so geil ist alles in Ruhe zu komponieren.
Aber verstehe deinen Approach voll und ganz.
Gutes Video, hoffe wir laufen uns irgendwann mal über den Weg :)
Grüße,
Joshua
Hey Joshua, versteh ich zu 100%! Ist auch wirklich was ganz tolles mit komplett mechanischen und dadurch auch etwas langsameren Kameras zu arbeiten. Haha geliebt
Oh Tobias, ich wünschte ich könnte auch einiges los werden, gute Entscheidung. Wünsche Dir weiterhin Viel Erfolg und poste ab und an mal was hier. VLG, Ralf
Danke Ralf!!! ☺️ freut mich dass es dir gefallen hat. Weniger ist manchmal mehr
Geniales Video, vielen Dank dafür!
Ich danke dir fürs zuschauen ☺️
Hi Tobias .. It's always interesting to see different peoples views, decisions and routes into photography, but .....Why Leica as a first analogue camera, as it is totally possible learn the art / trade /:craft / hobby.
I started out in photography back in the late 1970s, and people never had a Hasselblad or Leica as their first camera (obviously no digital cameras then) because it made no sense as my cheap Zenith E (Russian bombproof and very reliable) with 28mm, 56mm and 135mm let me learn nearly everything I needed to learn.
I've shot on just about every major brand and format (inc 5x4 & 10x8 Sinar P system and Hasselblad 501c and ELM) .. Fast forward to 2024 and I still prefer shooting with cheap and older gear because it is just a box with a shutter and a lens at the end of the day.
2024 also see me becoming a Leica M6 Titanium owner and only because I won it in a prize draw for the princely sum of £20, and it's a camera that I would never of owned if I had to pay the full price for.
Thank you so much for your comment, my friend. I completely agree. Everyone has his own journey with cameras, especially in this abundance of gear that we have those these days. I also think there’s no right or wrong when it comes to picking up your first camera and even the 10th camera, everyone makes their own experiences. I can refer to your common very much because I feel the same about cameras these days :)
I also freed myself from the Leica M3, sold, and the Nikon F2, collecting dust, but I`m enslaved to the Leica MD262...!
It’s great to hear that you found your dream camera after trying out different ones before ☺️
this video is basically what the developers of automatic cameras thought of when they designed and created them ;) less thinking about the mechanism per se but more on the execution.
🙏🏻
Recently purchased Coca-Cola point-and-shoot 35mm camera, The shots from here were so unperfect, but they had a lot of charm, that's probably the thing we miss with sterile modern asph lenses.
So I definitely know what you mean :)
I’m glad you can refer to that feeling ☺️
Make a lot of sense, I agree with you
Thank you so much for taking the time to watch ☺️
Growth.
🙏
You'll be back. ;)
we’ll see 😂🤤
THE truth is that you don't need a Leica to take good photos.. but I know there are people who really believe that.. especially for social media :-)
Good light with any camera you shoot with ;-)
I don’t really think that there are many people that think that it makes a big difference for the pictures if you use a Leica or not. Most people use it because of the feeling that you have while using it. I took some of my best pictures with point and shoots but the Leica is sometimes the best motivator for me to go out and take pictures because it just feels soooo good.
In the end every analog camera is just a black box but the M7 has some very beautiful and practical black boxes. 😅
I think I was guilty myself believing that. Maybe this also added to the feeling of shooting Leica I walked in the beginning of the video
@@TobiasHolzweilerI shoot with Leica M4 and M6 for more than 20 years .. but when I asked how much one shop could be pay for my M6 titan I sold it 😅 to that shop
I didn't even know that Leica is doing this kind of toy-ish camera.
Ne neither 😂 but it’s super fun
Interesting video. I enjoy my M7 very much and I absolutely can’t imagine giving it away. 😊
Still always using a point and shoot too. Why did you choose the Z2X and not another point and shoot?
The canon cameras are just insane but sooooo ugly.😅
They are clearly fantastic work tools though.
My local Camera store happened to have the Z2X that’s why I picked it up. Otherwise it would have been a mju zoom or something else with a decent lens :)
That was very, very long.
I know 😂🥰
*digitales auf die Schultern klopfen*
🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹💌♥️
I'm sorry, absolutely no hate, but if Leica M6 or M7 where your FIRST film cameras, you are (or where) either a snob and /or you have too much money to spend. And that Z2X is your redemption. Coming from photographer who's in film for almost 50 years, just saying.
Gruß
Hey man, thank you so much for your comment. I picked up the six back then because I was used to shoot the Leica Q for a couple years and therefore wanted to make my first steps with the M system. My decision back then was also very much influenced by some of my favorite photographers who shot on the M6 as well. Therefore, I don’t think that I was a snob but I was very enthusiastic about the learning a new camera system from Leica :)
@@TobiasHolzweiler Fair enough. But see, there's the problem - people on the internet overhype some camera, and that drives the price of it sky high. I'll give you an example - why is it that Leica M3, a nearly 70 years old camera, costs 3 or 4 times more on average than the Leica IIIf, which is, other than the mount and few other small defences, the same camera. On the other hand, you are over that, so I'll not beat a dead horse...
@@tomislavmiletic_ you're right, some cameras are overhyped for some weird reasons. in my next video I'll talk about some real talk about the M6/M7 and how hard they actually are to shoot
@@TobiasHolzweiler 👍🏻