this guy is great, because you can tell that he could explain things a lot more descriptive, but that would make it more complicated to understand, so he talks in a way that the layman can know what he's saying.
@@63Baggies I wouldn't agree on that. At least not on a level that the layman can know what he's saying. To explain complex things in an easy and still acurate way is a skill and quality in itself. It's not nessecarly related the area of expert.
I found out about Jaron becaue he bought a wood flute from me on ebay. Never heard of him before that. It has made me more interested in VR! Especially since I had received a VR headset before the ebay purchase.
jaron makes me feel sane cause in this social media digital age where everyone I know is pretty much unaware of what is does to them I feel like an alien at times but intellect is often misunderstood I first hear of jaron from his book who owns the future its a good read
Jaron is a very thoughtful and insightful speaker. I'm not sure I agree with all of his beliefs but I like listening to him and I learn a new perspective on the tech industry every time.
Maybe the time for hopium is over and we should get very busy or accept out faith. I think we will do neigther and continue our self defeating ways. But show me the path cause I don't see it.
Levar Mitchell I'm the same way. Dont always agree but you can respect where he is coming from and the overall direction his ideas lead. Very gifted individual
He is easy to listen to even when he reveals beliefs I don't agree with. He is very insightful though and worth listening to in my opinion. Real intellectuals can present ideas and not turn everyone off and entrench the opposition.
I want to see Joe Rogan interview Jaron Lanier!!! That would be so epic! And it would let the word out about the harm of not knowing what the algorithms are doing to us!! Great work!!
I have to disagree with Lanier in one point. And that is that VR can harm people outside of the view point that a central manipulating system is wired to this problem. What I'm talking about is the same problem a lot of gamers find themselfs in. It's about escapeism and personal problems and drepression. People will abuse the VR to escape reality like for example plaing world of warcraft to escape the harsh reality the may otherways have to face.
I have zero interest in virtual reality. Reality, face to face with other people and having real life experiences is what its all about, as much as i live on TH-cam, a virtual world doesnt appeal, in my opinion. And where it's heading is slightly worrying.
I agree when it comes to personal communication, yet it has many valuable qualities for people that are away, industrial scenarios, business scenarios etc..
I love this guy. He's right about everything. But I'm not optimistic like him. Most people aren't willing to hear this at all. They don't want to believe they are being manipulated. I believe we are being manipulated and I have deleted my Facebook and Twitter, and have lost many "friends" in the process, who are not willing to communicate any other way. But I can't yet bring myself to do the same with TH-cam or Instagram. Even knowing and believing these things are not good for our lives, it's hard to follow through.
I have a hard time imaging how I will engage with the digital world if I give up my social media accounts. They seem to be the trajectory point for all my online interaction and content consumption. If I don't engage with Facebook, Twitter, IG, and TH-cam, how do I connect easily and efficiently? This is what I struggle to understand. I think the answer may be to simply, 'jump ship' and the answer may present itself. Super interesting stuff in this video.
yes. Years ago, when I first ran into FB, I joined. I left it entirely shortly thereafter and never joined Twitter or any other. I do not like any of it. There is too much going on there that I feel is destructive, and not just the "manipulation". People get too unreal there for me. Integrity and real sharing is too meaningful to me. Life is too short to give up that part of us and others.
I agree. Trying to give up social media is like trying to quit sugar or cocaine. Suggesting others do so is like suggesting a sugar or cocaine addict go cold turkey. I'm wondering if AR Augmented Reality might allow people to put down our phones and at least make eye contact with each other while still accessing the world of data and digital engagement?
I ve been thinking about it for a year and watching myself..definitely kept me up past bedtime in meaningless posts and mgsing people I barely if at all know or have met ..nice people but now I have deleted twitter and s media and I now feel free, reading a good big long book and enjoying making my meals etc..living without the dopamine hits.
this is being watched on youtube, owned by google. Please try and support alternatives to youtube so they can grow. The only thing youtube has is raw content mass
The times call forth the speakers and Jaron Lanier is a shining beacon of brilliance, sanity, and sage wisdom in a time where we seem be regressing due to our own greed and lack of humility.
The horrifying realization that the bad guys have wrested control of steering wheel..and equally sad, is the shallow American response encapsulated in the comments preceding this one.
Great host with such a spectacular human being as a guest
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In the 80s, it was a 'sweet' way of looking at life. Great convo! It wasn't about total global domination for profit back then. Indeed, advertising vs controlling behavior. It was originally fair. Good intentions turned into switches for predictable outcomes. Where is a free society when there are those that monitor and attempt to influence our every behavior? Agree, we become smarter, we evolve, adjust, and see through the illusion. We enjoy magicians, knowing the set up. Again, great conversation and food for thought!
I'm in Second Life, and I've been enjoying it for over 8 years. One has to create a healthy balance between real life and second life, but it can be a very helpful and fun experience. I recommend it to anyone looking for a new way to meet like-minded (or not!) others or to create art or build online. It's just a lot of fun. It is also a great way to enjoy djs or live entertainers. lol Have fun!
After hearing this instrument I immediately went to look for the Runescape main theme being played on it. Seems like someone would have done that. Unfortunately no one has that I can find.
I adore Jaron, I’ve appreciated his input since the late 80s early 90s when I was into VR. I’ve just recently rediscovered him... great thinker... also, I think cryptocurrency would be a great solution toward monetizing content. Plus decentralization of personal content to increase privacy. EOS and Everipedia on its way toward this. Just finished the video.. he’s skeptical of crypto, says it’s like a Ponzi scheme.
And that algorithm will continue to show you similar content to a point where if you continue consuming it, alternative opinions would be alien and ridiculous.
He is brilliant. Someone who retained common sense and honesty when handling a true futuristic advancement in the world. I believe he looks at technology as a help, not an extension of self and it wasn’t about profit for him. Now he is trying to stop what he had a part in from getting so far out of hand that society as we know it goes to bits while going against some friends and greedy product/content makers turned manipulators of behaviors. You go the money route, you start wanting to be God. This guy is saying that never should have happened. And if Silicon Valley won’t make responsible changes to their business model, we people need to force ourselves to change to be without such things or limit ourselves til it changes. People are becoming more fragile. Heck the amount of emotionally unstable people, insecure females and males, and trashy information labeled “empowering”, and horrible things easily viewable by everyone including young children who should never see such things...it’s truly mass suicide is the course we are set for with all this vanity, ungratefulness, destabilization of family, loss of common sense, cult mentality and ultimately a society with the depiction of a patched, torn, frayed ragged quilt we call beautiful and diverse when it’s actually ugly and can’t properly function for warmth or covering.
This is not happening by accident... People will become confused and unproductive... And then there will be a replacement of those incapable people/societies.
First time I see an interview with Jaron. It is so relaxing and uplifting to watch him thinking before talking in a gentle way about very profound ideas. Unfortunately the interviewer talks in an abrupt and disharmonious manner.
The mouth "Laotian" organ thingy ... I'd like a reference of sorts to determine whether he;s actually good at it! Very smart man. I want and need to be around compassionate ppl like him. The alternative is too dark & has run it's course
Quantum computers are computationally no more powerful than Turing's machine. However creating massive parallel computation with them will clearly effect NP completeness
Huh. After the Laotian mouth organ performance.... I'd have asked straight away if that was an original tune, improvisation or something traditional. Would seem fitting.
yeah thats quite a misjudgement on their part. the guy didnt even seem that interested in the topic. there are so many potential opportunities for life changing conversations with Jaron and the interviewer just seemed more interested on how he came across, seemingly in the interest of career development, if you get me.
....Dude, dude, dude....I read an excerpt of Langer's "Feeling and Form" and yeah, she talks about "the virtual" (and virtue, I believe). Yeah! I read part of a text that coined the term "virtual". I saw that (after VR is a reality).
Does he worry about the fact that this is on youtube, and the effect of this social medium might incentivize us to not take his advice (as an inner contrarian and "rebel" seems to be doing with me now?)
I found that he only half-answered the most relevant question such as the one on how it ultimately is a systemic problem that requires a systemic solution. I also don't quite understand his optimism around VR. Technology should ultimately bring us closer to each other, and VR will only encapsulate us in ficticious universes. Introverts will not even need to try to be social, they will seek happiness in VR worlds. I see the applications of VR quite dangerous in the highly individualistic society in which we live. We should strive to bring people closer together, not farther apart.
We’ve been able to live without social media, phones and computers so why wouldn’t we be able to stop or ignore one of these “Tools”? I used to love social media and thought that social media is something good i truly did. Until the point where it became negative towards me and ways it did terrified me. Today i don’t use any social media tool except Facebook’s messenger app and Twitter because these apps and media are fine with me, Twitter for example is to me a way of interacting with news that interest me and that’s it, i don’t use it for anything else. And Facebook’s messenger app is only for communication with those who are closest to me and those who are involved in my life. However Facebook in particular as I mentioned easier terrified me in ways you can’t even imagine and let me give you an example of it, i could go on Facebook and like or comment on something and then a few hours later experience these things in real life either from ads, people or even inside me. It’s almost as if i experienced a virtual reality of the things i did on social media IRL. This is also linked to having the feeling of being tracked and exposed and to try to understand how this all could be really used to be really traumatizing and terrifying and that’s the main reason to why I’ve removed close to all social media overall. And yes i have Twitter and Facebook’s messenger still but these social medias is something can use without feeling these unexplainable things happening to me. I don’t sit and scroll any social media at all nowadays and I’m glad to say that I’m not experiencing any of these severe signs anymore I’m also feeling free and less stressed out since i stopped using social media and overall i feel more confident in myself without social media however i will never forget these really scary sensations that occurs in real life because of something that i did on social media. My advice to those who’ve read and can relate to me in any way shape or form is to stop using social media completely and never come back to those that makes you feel really bad about yourself or threatening to you like they’ve done to me. There is no need to scroll endlessly on social media or post everything we do in our lives, yes we are all addicted to expressing ourselves in a good way and love to accomplish things and post your pride all over the Internet and in real life as well but the important thing I’m trying to tell you is that you don’t actually need to do anything in terms of progress in your life some things are best to keep to yourselves and your family. Just try to stop using social media completely for a period of time and see if you get something out of it. Thank you.
Is it just me or does it feel like this guy just came out of nowhere? All the comments are less than 7 months old and I keep getting loads of recommended videos from him. Weird!
Weird? That's the feedback he's talking about. You keep clicking on the videos, you get more of the stuff that people who also clicked on the stuff you clicked on clicked on.
He is morally totally bankrupt. He warns about social media when it is obvious. And doing very softly because still friends in that business. Nice friends he got. Then he promotes VR! What a nice guy!
I have introduced many of JL's insights into the course PHI 3013 (Business Ethics) l teach. I teach at a fairly politically conservative university, and many of my students from the Business School trained as they are in Chicago School Economics, you would think would resist JL's proposed solutions as well as his criticisms of the Silicon Valley business model, and the digital culture at large. Instead l found the opposite to be true! 😀 There are l believe several reasons why: a) His demeanor and presentation is about as far from inflammatory or ideological as you can get. b) Though "leftist" in spirit in the sense that he is skeptical about any excessive reliance on systems, and the dogmas accompanying them, celebrating free thinking instead with a subdued kind of anarchic aspect, nevertheless he's "conservative" in the classical Edmund Burke- libertarian sense. A' la Burke he ascribes to a consensus model of governance driven by the bottom-up. He's obviously libertarian in spirit but not in the economic sense (to be clarified below). c) Economically he advocates quite a few updated versions IMO of what Adam Smith articulated. Smith was however no "free market fundamentalist" as he recognized and was concerned at how winner-take-all scenarios can emerge in markets, which would eventually precipitate market failure. Also, contrary to many contemporary economic libertarians, Smith was in favor of limited commodification-- i.e. he recognized that certain "public goods" like education and health care should not be privatized nor domesticated by markets. Markets are limited in their effectiveness and work best when you're aware of their limits, is IMO the underlying moral theme of Smith: economics is a value-laden, not a value-neutral science. So...if you're an open-minded educated conservative, what's there not to like? I don't wish to smack simple labels on how l understand JL's views, since they defy simple classification. What I however find most compelling and refreshing about him (appealing especially to the scientist in me-I'm a mathematical physicist by training, and worked in areas like quantum computation) is his utter humility in the face of the very ideas he suggests. He avoids dogmatism at all costs by constantly reminding everyone of the need for data-driven methods of reform.
How is it precisely that this type of advertisement polarizes us? I understand that ads will be targeted towards your identity, making you more engrossed in it, but when and how precisely does the polarity-opposistion kinda deal, then, arise?
Minds like this guy's are important. I really wish he would take better care of himself. He was very winded just from playing the organ. He should lose weight, for his own, and humanity's sake.
He should do whatever the fuck he wants and live however the fuck he wants. Some people don't care about their bodies and it's not necessary to comment on his body..Pay attention to his message and thoughts without obsessing over his packaging.
I think Johnny's more concerned about his health and longevity than his packaging. And I think he has a point. It would really be a shame for Jaron, his family, and all of us if he died 30 years early just because he did "whatever the fuck he wants" in one aspect of his life. Unfortunately, we can't all just do whatever the fuck we want and consider ourselves moral. We have to realize that our actions can have profound impacts for better or worse on those around us and on the world as a whole.
54:37 I thought that would have been more along the lines of being a fake news thing, but if this man is honestly saying that... Oh boy boy are we in real trouble. [referencing back to that whatever New York times article was it]
What a gift to humanity this man is...oozes with understanding and empathy
Evan Green and pies
why you talking about yourself lmao
I think he’s also trying to remind you that you are also that gift to humanity.
paid actor.... think of the long game. It's got to be truly insidious....
this guy is great, because you can tell that he could explain things a lot more descriptive, but that would make it more complicated to understand, so he talks in a way that the layman can know what he's saying.
If an expert can't explain what he or she does; they don't truly understand what they do.
@@63Baggies I wouldn't agree on that. At least not on a level that the layman can know what he's saying. To explain complex things in an easy and still acurate way is a skill and quality in itself. It's not nessecarly related the area of expert.
this guy came from the matrix to warn us about it
naw man, he came from outside. He came in to the matrix to warn us lol.
It’s the reverse, pretty much 🤯
He made sure to make a LOT of money before doing so :-)
I opened this comment as he was playing his instrument.. so perfect 👌🏻
He is one of the twins who chased Morpheus, Trinity and Keymaker down the highway. But as far I remember he was pale skinned back then
I found out about Jaron becaue he bought a wood flute from me on ebay. Never heard of him before that. It has made me more interested in VR! Especially since I had received a VR headset before the ebay purchase.
Neat. Please don't get lost in VR.
That instrument he played was so unexpected. They never even explained what it was or where it came from.
Yes, he mentioned it comes from Laos! (then he made the joke that the chair, where the instrument was sitting, was named "Laos").
I want to cry hearing him relate the story about his Mom dying and him being so lonely. What a completely tragic picture it created in my mind.
13:37 "...it was actually a very well intentioned, sweet ideology, that backfired terribly." Now that's important to hear.
Excellent choice of time for your quote ;)
This man has his foot in two worlds, simultaneously. A beautiful thing to see!
Now we are seeing the consequences of it and blaming the wrong sources...Social Media are to be blamed indeed.
@@Dunnjunior yes. It's incredible how obvious our trajectory was..
jaron makes me feel sane cause in this social media digital age where everyone I know is pretty much unaware of what is does to them I feel like an alien at times but intellect is often misunderstood I first hear of jaron from his book who owns the future its a good read
Mr. Lanier can reconnect the world much better that social media.
Jaron is a very thoughtful and insightful speaker. I'm not sure I agree with all of his beliefs but I like listening to him and I learn a new perspective on the tech industry every time.
Maybe the time for hopium is over and we should get very busy or accept out faith. I think we will do neigther and continue our self defeating ways. But show me the path cause I don't see it.
Levar Mitchell I'm the same way. Dont always agree but you can respect where he is coming from and the overall direction his ideas lead. Very gifted individual
He is easy to listen to even when he reveals beliefs I don't agree with. He is very insightful though and worth listening to in my opinion. Real intellectuals can present ideas and not turn everyone off and entrench the opposition.
Hit your crypto string too huh?
Just love your podcasts with Jaron Lanier - please continue to feature him!
I want to see Joe Rogan interview Jaron Lanier!!! That would be so epic! And it would let the word out about the harm of not knowing what the algorithms are doing to us!! Great work!!
I agree but have you seen the one with Tristan harris?
@@gdehuu I haven’t. I’ll check it out! Thanks!
Just finished listening to it. Good stuff! Thanks!
This man is the epitome of class, dignity, and emotional intelligence.
The story about losing his mother broke my heart.
I have to disagree with Lanier in one point. And that is that VR can harm people outside of the view point that a central manipulating system is wired to this problem. What I'm talking about is the same problem a lot of gamers find themselfs in. It's about escapeism and personal problems and drepression. People will abuse the VR to escape reality like for example plaing world of warcraft to escape the harsh reality the may otherways have to face.
I have zero interest in virtual reality. Reality, face to face with other people and having real life experiences is what its all about, as much as i live on TH-cam, a virtual world doesnt appeal, in my opinion. And where it's heading is slightly worrying.
You aren't alone but sadly not all people believe in a world without it.
I agree when it comes to personal communication, yet it has many valuable qualities for people that are away, industrial scenarios, business scenarios etc..
His vision of a magical VR, which he speaks of near the end, is so beautiful and inspiring to think about. I'm in!
it sounds like a freak show of which I want no part
I love this guy. He's right about everything. But I'm not optimistic like him. Most people aren't willing to hear this at all. They don't want to believe they are being manipulated. I believe we are being manipulated and I have deleted my Facebook and Twitter, and have lost many "friends" in the process, who are not willing to communicate any other way. But I can't yet bring myself to do the same with TH-cam or Instagram. Even knowing and believing these things are not good for our lives, it's hard to follow through.
I have a hard time imaging how I will engage with the digital world if I give up my social media accounts. They seem to be the trajectory point for all my online interaction and content consumption. If I don't engage with Facebook, Twitter, IG, and TH-cam, how do I connect easily and efficiently? This is what I struggle to understand. I think the answer may be to simply, 'jump ship' and the answer may present itself. Super interesting stuff in this video.
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yes. Years ago, when I first ran into FB, I joined. I left it entirely shortly thereafter and never joined Twitter or any other. I do not like any of it. There is too much going on there that I feel is destructive, and not just the "manipulation". People get too unreal there for me. Integrity and real sharing is too meaningful to me. Life is too short to give up that part of us and others.
I agree. Trying to give up social media is like trying to quit sugar or cocaine. Suggesting others do so is like suggesting a sugar or cocaine addict go cold turkey. I'm wondering if AR Augmented Reality might allow people to put down our phones and at least make eye contact with each other while still accessing the world of data and digital engagement?
I ve been thinking about it for a year and watching myself..definitely kept me up past bedtime in meaningless posts and mgsing people I barely if at all know or have met ..nice people but now I have deleted twitter and s media and I now feel free, reading a good big long book and enjoying making my meals etc..living without the dopamine hits.
this is being watched on youtube, owned by google. Please try and support alternatives to youtube so they can grow. The only thing youtube has is raw content mass
vimeo...
one of the best interviewers ive seen. Jaron is also brilliant once again
awesome interview and such a very interesting man. although i can’t stand the pompous interviewer at all.
Dammit man I agree 100% he's annoying
Pompous is the word I was looking for, thanks.
This man is wonderful, so eloquent, individual and oh so sensible. Love him.
The times call forth the speakers and Jaron Lanier is a shining beacon of brilliance, sanity, and sage wisdom in a time where we seem be regressing due to our own greed and lack of humility.
What an amazing guest! Thank you so much for sharing this.
49:03 this is the music that I hear in my head
Love listening to this dude talk. So full of intelligence and understanding. The world needs him
Thanks for posting this video. Thanks, Jason! Keep fighting the good fight! ;) It's wonderful to hear a real man speak truth.
The horrifying realization that the bad guys have wrested control of steering wheel..and equally sad, is the shallow American response encapsulated in the comments preceding this one.
His laugh MADE my day at 25:56
utterley inspiring on all levels. Through tragedy Jaron seems to have built a wonderful life philosophy.
Listening to this guy on TH-cam for ages then I actual see him and I was so shocked 😂
Wow, that was an amazing presentation!!! Many thanks!!
I love this guy he's so refreshing
He got older , that means I got older too... fuck!! .
So the future will be VR programming. Also this man is an incredibly gentle human
48:23 sounds like he is trying to connect to the internet
zambination11 this made me chuckle.
I"m so glad I stumbled upon this video. Going to pick up his book.
Great host with such a spectacular human being as a guest
In the 80s, it was a 'sweet' way of looking at life. Great convo! It wasn't about total global domination for profit back then. Indeed, advertising vs controlling behavior. It was originally fair. Good intentions turned into switches for predictable outcomes. Where is a free society when there are those that monitor and attempt to influence our every behavior? Agree, we become smarter, we evolve, adjust, and see through the illusion. We enjoy magicians, knowing the set up. Again, great conversation and food for thought!
I'm in Second Life, and I've been enjoying it for over 8 years. One has to create a healthy balance between real life and second life, but it can be a very helpful and fun experience. I recommend it to anyone looking for a new way to meet like-minded (or not!) others or to create art or build online. It's just a lot of fun. It is also a great way to enjoy djs or live entertainers. lol Have fun!
Look I knew who you where before my "instructors" in the late '90's . G.I. Bill. Genius.
After hearing this instrument I immediately went to look for the Runescape main theme being played on it. Seems like someone would have done that. Unfortunately no one has that I can find.
This video presents some really interesting ideas. Well done.
this guys is brilliant.
This conversation should be shown in ALL SCHOOL'S.
Get this man on Joe Rogans show!!!!
He'd be great, but wouldn't it be like the Turkey voting for Christmas? Joe Rogan as we know him would not exist without social media.
Everything on the intinternet hurts my head. Social media too.
Jaron is right. Absolutely!
God I wish he was my best friend. So intelligent
He's a model human being, something we should all want to be.
I'm addicted to TH-cam because of videos like this. This man is brilliant, but not any sense of superiority or ego. Just the opposite of Trump.
Humans who build complex equipment cannot be replaced by 3D printers made by 3D Printers
20:00 - Delete your Social Media Accounts
I've never seen/heard a laugh like Jaron's. It is incredible.
I love his dreads..
I adore Jaron, I’ve appreciated his input since the late 80s early 90s when I was into VR. I’ve just recently rediscovered him... great thinker... also, I think cryptocurrency would be a great solution toward monetizing content. Plus decentralization of personal content to increase privacy. EOS and Everipedia on its way toward this.
Just finished the video.. he’s skeptical of crypto, says it’s like a Ponzi scheme.
17:29 he explains it all perfectly!
So basically dump social media
So, if blockchain and Bitcoin is "bad" what would be your proposals to solve banking problems? Or there isn't any?
what problems?
@@davemccrea9000 endless inflation, and unreasonable centralization of power in their hands.
an algorithm figured out what i like and brought me here..
so meta.
And that algorithm will continue to show you similar content to a point where if you continue consuming it, alternative opinions would be alien and ridiculous.
thanks for sharing iqsquared
What a contrast between the host and Jaron.
My life is much better without Facebook in it.
He is brilliant. Someone who retained common sense and honesty when handling a true futuristic advancement in the world. I believe he looks at technology as a help, not an extension of self and it wasn’t about profit for him.
Now he is trying to stop what he had a part in from getting so far out of hand that society as we know it goes to bits while going against some friends and greedy product/content makers turned manipulators of behaviors.
You go the money route, you start wanting to be God. This guy is saying that never should have happened. And if Silicon Valley won’t make responsible changes to their business model, we people need to force ourselves to change to be without such things or limit ourselves til it changes.
People are becoming more fragile. Heck the amount of emotionally unstable people, insecure females and males, and trashy information labeled “empowering”, and horrible things easily viewable by everyone including young children who should never see such things...it’s truly mass suicide is the course we are set for with all this vanity, ungratefulness, destabilization of family, loss of common sense, cult mentality and ultimately a society with the depiction of a patched, torn, frayed ragged quilt we call beautiful and diverse when it’s actually ugly and can’t properly function for warmth or covering.
What is the instrument he plays? my friend had one but didn't know what it is
37:36 That's only true for creatives. For the average person, they are done once they know the trick.
Space exploration VR interests me. Planetary exploration of inner earth
Prescient. The Oracle. Tour de Force
When did Drexel from True Romance gain 400 lbs? But really though, we need more Jaron Laniers in this world. Peace.
This is not happening by accident... People will become confused and unproductive... And then there will be a replacement of those incapable people/societies.
First time I see an interview with Jaron. It is so relaxing and uplifting to watch him thinking before talking in a gentle way about very profound ideas.
Unfortunately the interviewer talks in an abrupt and disharmonious manner.
Jaron ,You Tube; Yuval Harari ; and The Dot Connector, and Everything Is A Rich Man’s Trick,-Dioboli Ordinati Intrepidi.
Feels like he was bringing a Dreamstone Hedron into play 18:10
My “ring” camera went off at 48:48 and it was the same pitch he was hitting 🤯🤯
He managed to make the ancient instrument sound like the modern cacophony of dissonance we are currently experiencing in the digital world.
The mouth "Laotian" organ thingy ... I'd like a reference of sorts to determine whether he;s actually good at it! Very smart man. I want and need to be around compassionate ppl like him. The alternative is too dark & has run it's course
Quantum computers are computationally no more powerful than Turing's machine. However creating massive parallel computation with them will clearly effect NP completeness
Good golly, that ancient instrument of his sounds like an ancient modem trying to connect with the internet
No, it doesn’t. It’s REAL and primal. Very different from what most today are used to hearing.
*8:50** Does anyone know what/where the 24-hour late-night eatery was, where they would meet and work?*
Huh. After the Laotian mouth organ performance.... I'd have asked straight away if that was an original tune, improvisation or something traditional. Would seem fitting.
And what about Steem's model? It's a cryptocurrency and social network, that works how you proposed.
Never judge a book by its cover
Great man. Bless.
dont know why but i didnt get a good impression of the host.
Why they chose someone who hadn't even tried VR is beyond me.
yeah thats quite a misjudgement on their part. the guy didnt even seem that interested in the topic.
there are so many potential opportunities for life changing conversations with Jaron and the interviewer just seemed more interested on how he came across, seemingly in the interest of career development, if you get me.
the inner chat controls ones reality wish more seen it that way
He should put the flute playing on Facebook, it will get many of likes.....Only joking ;)... about putting it on Facebook.
Music is the centre of VR
No, that would be Math and physics.
i meant that Jaron's inspiration for VR was mainly music. His earliest projects were fully music projects,he went into VR mainly because of that.
Ok
you would need both the science and the art (visual, music, etc) for VR
....Dude, dude, dude....I read an excerpt of Langer's "Feeling and Form" and yeah, she talks about "the virtual" (and virtue, I believe). Yeah! I read part of a text that coined the term "virtual". I saw that (after VR is a reality).
Oh my gosh! What he's saying sounds true.
Does he worry about the fact that this is on youtube, and the effect of this social medium might incentivize us to not take his advice (as an inner contrarian and "rebel" seems to be doing with me now?)
I found that he only half-answered the most relevant question such as the one on how it ultimately is a systemic problem that requires a systemic solution. I also don't quite understand his optimism around VR. Technology should ultimately bring us closer to each other, and VR will only encapsulate us in ficticious universes. Introverts will not even need to try to be social, they will seek happiness in VR worlds. I see the applications of VR quite dangerous in the highly individualistic society in which we live. We should strive to bring people closer together, not farther apart.
We’ve been able to live without social media, phones and computers so why wouldn’t we be able to stop or ignore one of these “Tools”?
I used to love social media and thought that social media is something good i truly did. Until the point where it became negative towards me and ways it did terrified me.
Today i don’t use any social media tool except Facebook’s messenger app and Twitter because these apps and media are fine with me, Twitter for example is to me a way of interacting with news that interest me and that’s it, i don’t use it for anything else. And Facebook’s messenger app is only for communication with those who are closest to me and those who are involved in my life.
However Facebook in particular as I mentioned easier terrified me in ways you can’t even imagine and let me give you an example of it, i could go on Facebook and like or comment on something and then a few hours later experience these things in real life either from ads, people or even inside me.
It’s almost as if i experienced a virtual reality of the things i did on social media IRL.
This is also linked to having the feeling of being tracked and exposed and to try to understand how this all could be really used to be really traumatizing and terrifying and that’s the main reason to why I’ve removed close to all social media overall.
And yes i have Twitter and Facebook’s messenger still but these social medias is something can use without feeling these unexplainable things happening to me.
I don’t sit and scroll any social media at all nowadays and I’m glad to say that I’m not experiencing any of these severe signs anymore I’m also feeling free and less stressed out since i stopped using social media and overall i feel more confident in myself without social media however i will never forget these really scary sensations that occurs in real life because of something that i did on social media.
My advice to those who’ve read and can relate to me in any way shape or form is to stop using social media completely and never come back to those that makes you feel really bad about yourself or threatening to you like they’ve done to me. There is no need to scroll endlessly on social media or post everything we do in our lives, yes we are all addicted to expressing ourselves in a good way and love to accomplish things and post your pride all over the Internet and in real life as well but the important thing I’m trying to tell you is that you don’t actually need to do anything in terms of progress in your life some things are best to keep to yourselves and your family.
Just try to stop using social media completely for a period of time and see if you get something out of it.
Thank you.
Is it just me or does it feel like this guy just came out of nowhere? All the comments are less than 7 months old and I keep getting loads of recommended videos from him. Weird!
Weird? That's the feedback he's talking about. You keep clicking on the videos, you get more of the stuff that people who also clicked on the stuff you clicked on clicked on.
he has zero social media. why should you have heard of him?
Don't call it a comeback, Jaron's been on the lecture circuit for decades.
I was first told about J. Lanier in 1990.
1:08:11 great question
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He is morally totally bankrupt. He warns about social media when it is obvious. And doing very softly because still friends in that business. Nice friends he got.
Then he promotes VR! What a nice guy!
Yes social media is causing major devisevness.
Divisiveness
I have introduced many of JL's insights into the course PHI 3013 (Business Ethics) l teach. I teach at a fairly politically conservative university, and many of my students from the Business School trained as they are in Chicago School Economics, you would think would resist JL's proposed solutions as well as his criticisms of the Silicon Valley business model, and the digital culture at large.
Instead l found the opposite to be true! 😀 There are l believe several reasons why:
a) His demeanor and presentation is about as far from inflammatory or ideological as you can get.
b) Though "leftist" in spirit in the sense that he is skeptical about any excessive reliance on systems, and the dogmas accompanying them, celebrating free thinking instead with a subdued kind of anarchic aspect, nevertheless he's "conservative" in the classical Edmund Burke- libertarian sense. A' la Burke he ascribes to a consensus model of governance driven by the bottom-up. He's obviously libertarian in spirit but not in the economic sense (to be clarified below).
c) Economically he advocates quite a few updated versions IMO of what Adam Smith articulated. Smith was however no "free market fundamentalist" as he recognized and was concerned at how winner-take-all scenarios can emerge in markets, which would eventually precipitate market failure. Also, contrary to many contemporary economic libertarians, Smith was in favor of limited commodification-- i.e. he recognized that certain "public goods" like education and health care should not be privatized nor domesticated by markets. Markets are limited in their effectiveness and work best when you're aware of their limits, is IMO the underlying moral theme of Smith: economics is a value-laden, not a value-neutral science.
So...if you're an open-minded educated conservative, what's there not to like?
I don't wish to smack simple labels on how l understand JL's views, since they defy simple classification. What I however find most compelling and refreshing about him (appealing especially to the scientist in me-I'm a mathematical physicist by training, and worked in areas like quantum computation) is his utter humility in the face of the very ideas he suggests. He avoids dogmatism at all costs by constantly reminding everyone of the need for data-driven methods of reform.
How is it precisely that this type of advertisement polarizes us?
I understand that ads will be targeted towards your identity, making you more engrossed in it, but when and how precisely does the polarity-opposistion kinda deal, then, arise?
What's up with the interviewer? He cuts him off a lot.
Minds like this guy's are important. I really wish he would take better care of himself. He was very winded just from playing the organ. He should lose weight, for his own, and humanity's sake.
He should do whatever the fuck he wants and live however the fuck he wants. Some people don't care about their bodies and it's not necessary to comment on his body..Pay attention to his message and thoughts without obsessing over his packaging.
lol, you're fat, aren't you?
Predictable. I am defending this man's MIND. lol, you're a 20 something young man with an ego problem who will never amount to shit, aren't you?
haha, you didn't answer my question. Wonder why ;)
I think Johnny's more concerned about his health and longevity than his packaging. And I think he has a point. It would really be a shame for Jaron, his family, and all of us if he died 30 years early just because he did "whatever the fuck he wants" in one aspect of his life. Unfortunately, we can't all just do whatever the fuck we want and consider ourselves moral. We have to realize that our actions can have profound impacts for better or worse on those around us and on the world as a whole.
Very likable guy.
54:37 I thought that would have been more along the lines of being a fake news thing, but if this man is honestly saying that... Oh boy boy are we in real trouble. [referencing back to that whatever New York times article was it]