Strange Bumps on this NFL Player’s Knee - Doctor Explains JK Dobbin Pictures
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ธ.ค. 2022
- JK Dobbins returned from his most recent surgery and appeared to have some unusual bumps on the front of his knee.
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Dobbins is such a special player. Hope he makes a full recovery.
You dobbins truthers are special lol
@d h what is a dobbins truther?
@Peter K people that stand by a player and keep saying he’s elite even when bad things keep happening
@d h 125 yds is pretty good
In my torn acl experience, it took me two seasons to feel like “alright I’m as fast/quick as I was before surgery”. Going through a torn ligament injury, like torn tendons, is extremely hard to come back from quickly at 100% and feel the same as before the injury happened.
Glad you made a full recovery. So two seasons? Man, I feel that. Know it must’ve been hard to trust it.
@Jamaal Gardner I was a sophomore in high school. I was a long snapper, snapped it went to track down the returner, planted my foot -> blocked in the back, and a torn acl+meniscus.
Edit: I was extremely worried about testing it without a brace but the amount of time I spent with a brace (about a year post op) made it a smooth transition.
@something like that Ok cool. I’ve had knee surgeries but mine were breaks instead of torn ligaments & cartilage. Always been curious. Glad it got back to normal.
My knee bone / patella broke through my skin - compound fractured via “trauma”. It’s been year and change. Still can’t push off it to run. And I was , per my HS football coach / gym teacher , the “fastest kid in school”. Which was a fact. It sucks. Partially my fault, not doing the correct PT
This is a bot. Wow. You allow bots on your channel?
In an interview, he said he was ready to be back but didn’t feel like he was at his full potential. A working progress. This analysis of his gait really backs that up
After describing the procedure and how it results in scar tissue and fluid, I would think he would experience some major discomfort when bringing that leg to a full extension, especially in a sprint.
just so you know for the future the phrase is "a work in progress".
@WMDistraction I agree! suppose it’s a balance between being healed enough to play (say at 85% recovery) and what discomfort you’re willing to tolerate.
@Americon that's the work in theory, anyway
I tore my acl, pcl, and lcl at the same time. It took 7 years before I was back to 'normal'. I have crazy anxiety when it comes to my knees noe though, so it doesnt matter that im all better- facing any kind of damage like that again is crippling. Ive knelt 1 time in 13 years
I just got surgery on my ACL a second time to remove scar tissue causing locking and clicking in my knee. It’s so interesting to hear someone so knowledgeable discussing a recent experience of mine which reminded me of how fascinating the human body is. Thank you for making this video.
Wow! Outstanding Review Dr. B.. I'm just a layman(literally lay bricks sometimes) just wanted to say you did such a great breakdown, I thought it to be much worse(like pins poking out or somethin, haha. Love watching your videos!!
Dude is a beast! Loved him at OSU and I hate OSU! I wanted him to come to Baltimore and he damn sure ended up here. Back to back 100yd games under 20 carries and he's not even at 100% yet.. if we happen to get into the playoffs, he should be full strength and could help us out big time!
Reminds me of Jonathan Taylor
Had a complete tear of my acl and partial tear of my meniscus when i was 21. hardest thing i ever had to go through physically and mentally. Definitely makes you value your health more after
I just tore mine and completely tore my meniscus a couple months ago (and just turned 21) and it’s actually so draining
Make sure you rehab fully for your own sake. Tore my acl for the first time in 09. Tore it 2 more times because I heal fast and felt amazing. Muscles were stronger tendon was weaker.. didn’t let it heal and played sports regardless of warning. I had nothing going in my work life and sports kept me out of trouble.. fast forward 13 years my leg is half the size of the non injury leg and I feel pain doing pretty much everything… take it from me when you feel ready give yourself another 6 months … better safe than sorry…
I tore my Achilles tendon at 21 and ACL in the same leg at 34. I'll say the Achilles was the most draining because I couldn't do any type of exercise on the leg. At least with my ACL injury after the swelling went down and before surgery the doctor said I could still run around the track, ride the stationary bike, and build strength in my leg. I waited a year and a half before having surgery and after surgery a waited a year and half to start back playing basketball.
The fact that he looks this good already and there’s still solid room to improve… oh man I’m excited for him
criminal there isnt more attention towards your channel. really would like a segment on air explaining the more physical aspect of the sport. honestly would make people respect pro sports players more and realize it isnt as easy as people would think it be
Football players really put their bodies through so much!😲
Having torn my acl there’s also a psychological aspect to it as well that doesn’t get talked about much. Even if you’ve been cleared and know it’s one hundred percent there’s still doubt for a while
I had that when I fractured my back. Some injured are like curses
Hi Brian, could you make a video giving us estimated recovery time for arthroscopic knee surgery for athletes returning to a sport? I want to get back into a very physical sport, but I'm worried about using the knee too soon.
What has your physiotherapist told you?
I tell you my experience. I had ACL reconstruction in feb 2019. Tore it playing hockey. I was walking around the house 3 days later. I was walking a couple of miles a day outside 10 days after the surgery. When I started physiotherapy 3 weeks after the surgery, I had full range of motion and was walking without any pain or limp. That said, I was specifically told by many people to be very careful because although I didn't have any pain, the new ACL needs a certain amount of time to properly heal and reach it's full strength. I was told that it is very common for people to re-tear their ACL shortly after surgery because it feels good even-though it hasn't fully healed. I should note that I didn't have any meniscus damage or any other. I would say 6 months before it felt 100%. My hamstring hasn't really returned to full strength. That said, I am not an athlete, and I was told that because of my age that the healing process would be quite lengthy.
depends on what they are fixing. i might need to get my mpfl fixed (dislocated my kneecap) and the return to sport for that surgery is around 3 months but an acl for example is around 9 months on average.
@tchevrier Yeah it is different for everyone depending on their body type, graft type, meniscus or not, i think this person is referencing only a meniscus tear and not an acl tear though
@sevN I'm currently recovering from MPFL reconstruction myself after a couple dozen dislocations. 2 months post-op come Monday. I'm not sure how your recovery went, but all of my numbers in terms of flexion, strength, range of motion, etc. all look great, but in terms of actual, functional use, I still struggle (balance with the knee bent, lunges, etc.).
The 1st was torn patellar tendon which was the worst pain wise and also another avulsion fracture in that area idk what but I think it was the tibia. It sucks not remembering bc of so many you get them confused but I’d love to know about any of them if you find another athlete with the same thing. Great video
thx for the update. it's good to hear that he's not in any pain or discomfort when on the field. we know how dedicated he is and anxious to get back to work. lol
I’ve had 5 surgeries and the 5th was for scar tissue to clean it up but the 4th was osteochondral grafting and mpfl reconstruction and I have the same scars that look popped out like that too. And I’ve never known what they did in those bc mpfl was a mystery for me but I have cadaver cartilage in my knee The 1st was torn patellar tendon which was the worst pain wise and also another avulsion fracture in that area idk what but I think it was the tibia. It sucks not remembering bc of so many you get them confused but I’d love to know about any of them if you find another athlete with the same thing. Great video
Excited for this one.. I’ve had bumps like this on the lower part of my knee for years after ACL surgery. No doctor can tell me what it is
Scar tissue.. thats what I thought lol.. does this ever go away?
Damn
@Riley Rathstone not unless you get it removed and even then it’s 50/50
@Riley Rathstone Most likely not. This is why people are told to massage scar areas to avoid this sort of heavy scartissue development.
I feel for him. But unless he had a lot of swelling in the knee it might be a mental thing... I had 3 ACL reconstructions on the same knee and it does take a while to mentally trust it, especially if you had multiple injuries to the same area. I know the goal for a non D1 athlete/NFL player coming out of rehab was to be able to run a mile in under 7 minutes and to not have that hitching and mistrust in the repaired knee. I hope for him after that game he felt good with little to no pain and he starts to have more trust in it. He was a beast at OSU and I think he can be a beast if he can get past this hurtle.
What’s the reason you had 3 surgeries ? Just wondering if it was bc it was weaker or just never properly healed.
Interesting how some people form a lot of scar tissue while others do not. I happen to be one who does not. In fact, it’s very difficult to locate my scars from surgeries and injuries.
Same. Had an ACL, MCL, lat meniscus surgery first, and then an ACL about a year later on the same knee. Sometimes it takes me a little bit to point out the scars when people ask to see.
Man I’m cover is scars I hate it and I bruise so big I rmeber i had a funny looking lump on my knee from football it felt like a funny bone hit but in my knee lol shit hurt like a bitch but tickled kinda
Yeah, I've had 8 knee surgeries and the surgeon used the same two incisions for the scope every time(among other, open incisions as well) and while I definitely have scar tissue it's nothing like that.
Thanks Doc we needed this video on our JK Dobbins you help me to understand things better. If one has osteoarthritis when should you think about surgery????😊
Great job Doc! Thank you very much!
Thank you for this. All of us Ravens fans were worried about it.
Thank you Doc! Tagged you in this and you delivered 🔥
I hope all of y'all get past everything so you all can get back on the field 👍🏽
I had hurt my knee and did my ACL, lateral and medial meniscus. I had 2 surgeries after that as well for constant complications. My guess is he doesn’t get full extension. I never got my full extension back properly and really ran like this ever since.
In an unrelated matter:
In January 2022, I had a knee arthroscopy for complex meniscus and lateral tears. To my GREAT dismay, my knee is worse now than it was at the time of the injury. My total quality of life has changed, and I am no longer able to play sports like I used to. (This caused an onset of depression.)
I just saw another ortho who told me that he's not a fan of those arthroscopy knee surgery because they often make things worse. Now I'm having yet another MRI done today to see if he can implement a plan to get me out of pain and back into the game. Anyone else have a similar experience?
I wish more fans would understand what players go through to perform. When athletes "fall off" think of how injuries affect their bodies and performance
Such a cool channel. I'm glad I stumbled on it. Thanks for the knowledge and info.
I had patella surgery about 1.5 years ago . I figured a few weeks ago I have a bump under the skin on the side of my knee. I had no clue what it could be and I was kind of worried until I saw this.
That's a disgusting image but there is always answers, and when you want or need one, you got your go to man!
Looks painful to watch God bless hope he stays healthy 🫡
As I am a Physician myself, Taking into account Dobbins Ethnicity, those " Bumps" are likely keloiding from those arthroscopic insertion points !
Ethnicity?
@Fustin Jields Yes African-American are more likely / have a higher incidence of keloiding than other ethnicities.
Crazy he had 120+ yards on his return from injury debut.
And then another 120 yard game to bad the play calling was horrible
@Shawn Wilkerson Word. Baltimore has some studs on there roster. It's always painful to watch that be overwritten by dumb playcalling.
@Ethan Roberts we have no studs
spot on. my shoulder has similar bumps after surgery
He definitely played great the past 2 weeks really the only raven player that moved the ball
Darn, if only there was something to help protect his knee cap.
I tore my acl,mcl,lcl at the same time and tore my kneecap off which moved to the back of my leg also in the same injury. It took 2 surgeries to repair and 10 months of rehab before i was back playing sports.
I'm worried Dobbins is going to end up damaging his other leg/hip area. That's a lot of compensation going on.
Interesting! Do you think those will ever go away without him getting surgery to remove them?
Great video very informative and straight to it
They look more keloidal to me. Could have a seromal accumulation. This is still overall rare after this surgery and that should be stressed
I had knee surgery and my scars are in the same position. Over time, they have flattened out and blended in. Barely can see the scars.
ive had a meniscus repair done 7 weeks ago and have these bumps as well, wanted to know how long it usually takes for it to resolve?
Damn bro I’m in the same position. Just wanna ask I’m now 16 weeks post meniscus repair. How do you feel? What can you do?
God bless you
@Khalito hi Khalil, I'm now 18 weeks post surgery, I still have this click sensation when I walk sometimes, which is worrying me..., I'm gonna see my doctor in 3 weeks, he told me earlier that if it doesn't resolve in 6 months then come and see me, so Ill let you know once I see him, besides that I'm back to running normally, not back to sports or change of directions yet, wanna take a bit longer to make my knee stroner... How about you?
@Gal Kotler man I feel shit, 17 weeks post op and my knee clicks and I have immense pain. I see my doctor now in 3 weeks and I feel it that my repair failed and my meniscus has to be cut
@Khalito nooo, i really Hope you wont need to trim It.... Try and think positive!
I have two bumps on my knee after meniscus surgery on my knee still a little sensitive but I’m back to training and fighting again doesn’t hurt unless I kicked kicked directly on the knee but nothing that’s painful enough to cause me to not be able to move
I had an arthroscopic procedure done in 2011 and 2012 and first time they used my hamstring tendon, second was cadaver. But not traditional either time
Dude's crazy for not wearing any type of brace
I ended with a bump on my left tibia after ACL reconstruction. The doctor said, that is the butt end of the screw used to fixate the graft. Is that normal? Wish I could post a picture!
My whole body clicks and shifts and all sorts of stuff they say it’s natural since it doesn’t effect my athletic ability but it still concerns me especially when my knees get stuck then crack sounding like the house shifting and my wrists are quite crackly as well
I git scoliosis on top of all of that too lmao
@MrPantherGaming23 Same here. My ankles click almost every step. I also had scoliosis but I had the surgery for it way back in 4th/5th grade
Surprisingly not all body & joint clicks are supposed to be back, my knees click all the time at work. Doc said that the clicking can actually be good signs of good lubricated joints
You some zinc shots😉
Can you explain the knee pads not on the knees?
JK is talented buddy👍👍
The fact he still dnt have his knee pads over his knees is wild
He ran for 8 yards per carry whilst dragging his left leg behind
MMM I think maybe a actually knee pad could help from getting hit in the knee from a helmet. I see not hardly many players wear then anymore. Could a little padding help? Those lumps are fluid from the pain killer they injected him with before he entered the field it has not went down yet.
I broke my patella in 8th grade doing long jump. I was running 🏃🏾♀️ 23s in the 200 meter dash at practice. First track meet boom blow out. Took me 3yrs to recover 100%. This is a injury u have to take precaution when rehabilitating
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I've had 2 acl surgeries. Both surgery my biggest scare is maybe 2 inches And never had those. If I did I would've freaked out myself. 1st surgery. U.S. Army doctor. (No blame on him). 2nd surgery was done by the tampa bays rays team orthopedic.
Triple box never get old...
I recommend this channel to every single one of my sports fan friends and every single time the response is
"dude, great fn channel" 🤙
😂
Finally coming over after the recommendation from Athlean-X.
Looks gross but good for him for healing up
THANKS FOR THE INFO THIS IS GREAT!!!!!!
I have the same thing on my knee after surgery
I have a full knee replacement, I have no tibia...It's a rod! 7 surgeries later. In my humble opinion not taking the "bumps" into account. The knee itself looks swollen and stiff and that's why he's running like that. And DR. Sutterer is correct he's 100 favoring that leg.
Great video and great player 🔥 had had a great game at browns but MY BROWN WON 😂
I have these same bumps now that Ik Im not the only one I feel better about myself
Could you make a video discussing why UFC fighters are allowed to continue fighting after showing “gross motor instability” meanwhile NFL players are ruled out now due to concussion protocol
They are different sports? Apples and oranges. You can’t compare the two.
@A S the trauma to the brain is the same no matter the sport. The reason behind pulling a player from the field in the NFL is to reduce the risk of a secondary blow causing a concussion
@Daniel McGuire I don’t think they have those protocols in UFC or boxing because it would instantly kill the sport.
That’s why I think the two sports should be separated. You can’t compare them.
But if you wanted to talk about cases in those specific sports and compare within the same sport it would make more sense.
I can’t compare arthritis from a professional Dart thrower to arthritis from a NFL quarterback.
The NFL has its issues and so does the UFC. But it’s better not to compare in my eyes. That’s all I’m saying
@Daniel McGuire unfortunately head trauma happens in a lot of different sports. Lucky people know what they are signing up for. It’s not like people don’t have a choice. It’s a risk/ reward situation I think
The first person to perform knee surgery was a mad man
Why wouldn't he cover them up? Surely they are susceptible to being abraded and therefore a constant vector for infection every time his knees slide across the grass/turf?
These guys don’t use knee pads anymore. It’s foolish.
Triple box was electric, Doc!!!
Love your videos man
Always wondered why players don't wear knee pads anymore....it's like the tougher the game gets the lesser protection they where I don't understand.
players prefer looks over
protection no knee pads looks really smooth
@frenzie not really, as a skill position player knee pads make you significantly slower when they are rolled down so players put them up so they can run faster. Sure its a risk but thats what they get paid for
@santana it’s no risk knee pads don’t protect anything but everything else u said is true
@KingLo TRG yea that is true considering i play football and a skill position i usually always try to roll my knee pads up but the refs always be on dick about it and if they see it once they kick you out for the rest of the game, no warning at all
Do Lamar Jackson knee injury please cause I feel he should be back! Help me please 🙏🏽
Anyway you could reach out to the ravens and tell him to put on at the very least a knee sleeve? RG3 and Blake griffin and Brandon Roy and Greg oden all came back wearing no brace at all and look at the way there careers ended. If I’m not mistaken Dante Culpepper came back with no brace looked horrible
That all sounds fine until a large alien worm bursts out of his knee and starts devouring other players.
Thanks for the video!
I was wondering why he was running like that.
As someone with gout, I almost thought those were tophi.
I’ve learned more about the body on here than in school
That’s why all professional athletes should be PAID WELL 💰💰 GO RAVENS !! 🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈 👨🏿👨🏿👀👀👏🏿👏🏿
That’s crazy The medical available for rich folk is amazing
Facts
Can you do a video regarding Lamar Jackson PCL injury? Thank you
Dobbins should just sit out the rest of the year... it’s not like they have a chance at the super bowl anyway
I had the same surgery. It’s a totally messed w your head when u try to fully extend that knee! It feels like ur going to tear it again! Winter is the worst!
Hi Mike, I’m having acl and meniscus surgery in a couple weeks, why is winter the worst?
@azy5 I had my Tibia repaired then the acl and meniscus. And I think the cold tightens the muscle a lil sometimes causing discomfort. Also I’m only 40 yrs old and after the last surgery at 35 arthritis comes around in November and doesn’t leave until April ish.
@azy5 bicycle, stretch, ice, heat, as much as u can post surgery. Running on pavement after is not a good idea.
Why you say winter is the worst?
@Anthony Parker just seems like it’s harder to stay loose in winter. Things tighten up in the cold. But maybe the titanium pieces don’t help either but that’s life.
ngl we need to start forcing these players to wear better i knee pads man
Are they even wearing pads at this point?
@Flyer & More Creative Minds the league mandates it
so should i play him in fantasy tomorrow or not Doc? lol
Same I’m so torn between him or McKinney (or Stevensonbut doesn’t look like he’ll be healthy)
@Joe Cool Berry definitely Mckinnon. He should get fed because the chiefs should best the texans badly and he also gets used in the receiving game
@Ravensfan101This aged very well although I will say dobbins balled out too. But McKinnon definitely got more fantasy points !
Hit the Scott Hanson with the “triple box”
Please explain Keenan Allen’s shoulder bump.
It’s like a harmless mass where his collarbone surgery incision was (something like that). Also note that he naturally has pointy shoulders (you can see it peaks at the other side too), so the mass seems more pronounced then usual.
Dude I had 3 scopes on my left knee and didn't ever have raised bumps like this....
My freind got a random bump like this near his elbow after a game but he had no prior medical procedures done on him is there a reason for concern
Love your channel...awesome
That pooos like a screw popping out of his knee!!!!
This happened to me after acl surgery
Oh my. That’s insane
I know no one asked or cares, but I litteraly had the same surgery as J.K. in the same week as him. Just thought it was kinda cool
Can you describe what scar tissue is? Why does it form sometimes and not others?
it’s basically collagen. there are some autoimmune disorders that reduce collagen production , but I’m not really sure 😎
Not as bad but I had something similar when I got my miniscus repaired.
His patella isn’t even discernible anymore in that knee😳
So i’ve been saying “debridement” wrong all these years. Actually, I don’t know if I’ve ever actually said it out loud🤷🏻
People should stop worrying he'll be fine its jk Dobbins problem
Dude was running like Frankenstein
Is there any way to get my knees to stop popping?
No
Think about what they sacrifice to play the sport. Its crazy
I have a keloid from shoulder surgery these things are normal I imagine
Thxx Doc 🙏🏾