While in the Navy (mid 70's) I was tasked with climbing up an aluminum mast straight up about 100' from the waterline to weld this bracket for a sensor, the only way it could be done was via stick, I never really cared for height but that trip broke me of that fear, I don't remember what rod it was, it was given to us by the shipyard along with instructions on how to use it, I had a can of the stuff to practice with and they inspected my weld at the NDT shop to make sure I knew what i was doing . The surfaces had to be super clean that much I remember. I wish I knew what rod it was because that stuff was awesome and put down a great bead, the welds were a flat fill and a overhead, the overhead was a bitch.
on the Aluminum rods (1300 and 4043) in addition to preheat, it is necessary to clean the aluminum first and then allow it to cool completely before removing the flux. Also, the rod burns back into the flux on the rod so you really don't see the arc. Both of these rods are difficult to use but they do have their uses, primarily on repairs where MIG or TIG cannot be done.
never used one (basically impossible to get over here so why search?) but everything you say is basically self explanatory. highly reactive metal, needs good shielding, sucks the heat away so needs heaps of current and preheat, and yeah... let the slag cool. and would only be of any use out in the middle of a paddock on a windy day when something just has to get stuck together and do the job. wouldnt want to try an intercooler with one, but to stick a pipe together on a irrigation pivot? sure...
@@paradiselost9946 The heat input on a 3/32" diameter rod is quite high so it really can't be use on thin parts or small welds. My experience with it has been with repairing aluminum irrigation pipes in the field and for structural aluminum welding where TIG or MIG is not possible. The thinnest material that I have used this on is 1/8" thick. You might try searching online for some of the 4043 rod. One of the interesting aspects of using this rod is the high consumption rate of the rod. It can produce good welds in the hands of someone experienced with it.
@@paulkurilecz4209 yep. exactly. irrigation pipes... or that farm implement that just broke... any rod works well in the hands of someone with half a brain and an ability to think and watch what theyre doing... sadly rare traits nowadays. nah, i once had a look from curiosity, rods are cheap enough but the shipping is the killer, so i left my curiosity at that... be glad youre in the US (i assume) where it seems everything is available?
Super Noob question: ive been doing a little spot welding for repairs on my mower. Usually i turn the welder off to change the stick. is it OK to change the stick (with gloves) while the welder is on?
I weld with 11018 regularly on excavator booms and buckets, way stronger then 7018. It welds the same as 7018 and in all positions, little trickier with overhead and vertical, but nothing major
What happened to this channel. It is now like a cheap infomercial. Bring back the older guys who actually showed you something valuable. This new s**t is aggravating.
You didn’t get any information outta this? The idea was to provide information on dozens of different electrodes. We hear yah. While the delivery is absolutely a joke. The information is accurate.
We are trying to put a new spin on presenting the information about things kids tend to tune out. We plan on doing more of the old school videos as well but are trying some other styles of stuff as well to see if it’s a fit. Thanks for your feedback
@Granamire that's what I'm saying. Try horizontal. You won't have a good time. And for that matter, try it overhead as well. Sometimes instructors will challenge students with difficult and impossible tasks as a learning exercise. It's not completely impossible just extremely difficult and impractical. Take welding metal core(mig) overhead for example. It's not designed for it, and it's rather difficult, but I used to have to do it occasionally.(not saying you ever would weld jet rod overhead on the job)
The hardest rod I ever welded with was inconel.Soon as it gets hot it work hardens instantly.Then it is invincible to anything.Don’t try to drill it.Had to use plasma to even touch it . EXPENSIVE to I guess according to my boss. Is really used for extreme heat conditions . Supposedly it is used on the space shuttle. Once in a lifetime opportunity.Most people will never weld it. It was a bitch to weld though.
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This was a very creative and fun video. Very rad dudes!!! It gave me some nostalgia feels.
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Lots of good info, thanks! Was fun to watch
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this is an absolute gem of a video - i almost don't miss Bob after watching this - almost
Haha 😂 means a lot
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Good content guys way to make it interesting for the younger generations
While in the Navy (mid 70's) I was tasked with climbing up an aluminum mast straight up about 100' from the waterline to weld this bracket for a sensor, the only way it could be done was via stick, I never really cared for height but that trip broke me of that fear, I don't remember what rod it was, it was given to us by the shipyard along with instructions on how to use it, I had a can of the stuff to practice with and they inspected my weld at the NDT shop to make sure I knew what i was doing . The surfaces had to be super clean that much I remember. I wish I knew what rod it was because that stuff was awesome and put down a great bead, the welds were a flat fill and a overhead, the overhead was a bitch.
Ooofff that would’ve been tough
Good amount of information guys
Kudos. Entertaining to the max.
Thank you for watching!
on the Aluminum rods (1300 and 4043) in addition to preheat, it is necessary to clean the aluminum first and then allow it to cool completely before removing the flux. Also, the rod burns back into the flux on the rod so you really don't see the arc. Both of these rods are difficult to use but they do have their uses, primarily on repairs where MIG or TIG cannot be done.
That’s awesome info thanks!
never used one (basically impossible to get over here so why search?) but everything you say is basically self explanatory. highly reactive metal, needs good shielding, sucks the heat away so needs heaps of current and preheat, and yeah... let the slag cool.
and would only be of any use out in the middle of a paddock on a windy day when something just has to get stuck together and do the job.
wouldnt want to try an intercooler with one, but to stick a pipe together on a irrigation pivot? sure...
We will have to give 4043 a try next time as well!
@@paradiselost9946 The heat input on a 3/32" diameter rod is quite high so it really can't be use on thin parts or small welds. My experience with it has been with repairing aluminum irrigation pipes in the field and for structural aluminum welding where TIG or MIG is not possible. The thinnest material that I have used this on is 1/8" thick. You might try searching online for some of the 4043 rod. One of the interesting aspects of using this rod is the high consumption rate of the rod. It can produce good welds in the hands of someone experienced with it.
@@paulkurilecz4209 yep. exactly. irrigation pipes... or that farm implement that just broke...
any rod works well in the hands of someone with half a brain and an ability to think and watch what theyre doing... sadly rare traits nowadays.
nah, i once had a look from curiosity, rods are cheap enough but the shipping is the killer, so i left my curiosity at that... be glad youre in the US (i assume) where it seems everything is available?
Super Noob question:
ive been doing a little spot welding for repairs on my mower. Usually i turn the welder off to change the stick. is it OK to change the stick (with gloves) while the welder is on?
I hope so. I never turn my welder off to change rods, but I haven't been lit up yet
Great video guys! Enjoyed the humor too! 😂
Preciate cha!
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Well done. Cheers!
NEED TO PREHEAT THE ALUMINUM TO RUN THOSE RODS EFFECTIVELY
We learned this that day 😂
We will have to schedule a rematch!
With some pre-heat the only other way I've had luck with these 1300 rodes is running them like your running a 6010.
1300 is terrible ,even with pre heat
Yeah preheat is necessary
I used them to repair broken Rims on Cars
This video SLAPS!😂
Love to hear it!
Thank you!
that great cool vid 6010 good one and 7018 is fun cool welder up!!!!
Gals you enjoyed it. 6010 and 7018 are always a favorite
I weld with 11018 regularly on excavator booms and buckets, way stronger then 7018. It welds the same as 7018 and in all positions, little trickier with overhead and vertical, but nothing major
His face after welding the aluminum😂😂
Man i miss bob moffet.
I’m guessing you weren’t using the Lincoln electric Excalibur 7018 electrode, those are a pita
Coolest the 110 electrode
I feel like next year will come too soon.
Time tends to move faster on the internet 😂
Where's Bob?
Kansas
Right!!!!!!
Here in Thailand the fkn rods have all different numbers and shit. Pain in the ass for a beginner like meee
308L.... 4% carbon?
7013 is gross
We will have to have that in the next match up!
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Totally wrong about 309 tensile strength
It’s the aws minimum not actual
What is wrong with this video? It’s way too dark.
What happened to this channel. It is now like a cheap infomercial. Bring back the older guys who actually showed you something valuable. This new s**t is aggravating.
I had to just turn off the video; couldn't make it all the way through. Total garbage.
You didn’t get any information outta this? The idea was to provide information on dozens of different electrodes. We hear yah. While the delivery is absolutely a joke. The information is accurate.
We are trying to put a new spin on presenting the information about things kids tend to tune out. We plan on doing more of the old school videos as well but are trying some other styles of stuff as well to see if it’s a fit. Thanks for your feedback
Not the kind of alerts I look for in my inbox.. 🙄
We got more tricks up our sleeves. Let us know what alerts you want!
7024, is my hands down favorite. Just try it out of flat!!! Great vid btw!!!
Thanks! Love a 24 always a peeler
But Jet rod is only for flat and horizontal.
@Granamire that's what I'm saying. Try horizontal. You won't have a good time. And for that matter, try it overhead as well. Sometimes instructors will challenge students with difficult and impossible tasks as a learning exercise. It's not completely impossible just extremely difficult and impractical.
Take welding metal core(mig) overhead for example. It's not designed for it, and it's rather difficult, but I used to have to do it occasionally.(not saying you ever would weld jet rod overhead on the job)
We will have to have another match up moving through the different positions
@Welddotcom awesome. Down hand 6011 is a fun new one I've been trying lately. Not to difficult, just didn't realize it was legit.
The hardest rod I ever welded with was inconel.Soon as it gets hot it work hardens instantly.Then it is invincible to anything.Don’t try to drill it.Had to use plasma to even touch it . EXPENSIVE to I guess according to my boss. Is really used for extreme heat conditions . Supposedly it is used on the space shuttle. Once in a lifetime opportunity.Most people will never weld it. It was a bitch to weld though.