Fiennes deserves one for sure. I could argue others do too for supporting roles. The question is always, how good are the other nominees they are up against.
This is a very intelligent synopsis,thank you. You waste no energy on hyperbole,and give us the straight facts,especially about Cinematography,that you clearly have experience with. I’m highly interested in what looks like a brilliant movie.looking forward to more technical movie break downs.❤🇨🇦
I love this film and your analysis was so great! My favorite scene was Cardinal Lawrence’s sermon. Only people with faith will understand the weight and power of doubting.
Brilliant review. I saw the film when it came out and thought it was astonishing. I love how you highlighted the art of the filmmakers and how it was crafted to work so seemlessly with the story and acting, enhancing both. I agree that Ralph Feines was stunning, although the whole ensemble brought their A game.
This is a masterful piece of cinema - beautifully shot - the cinematography is fantastic - every frame has purpose to it. Thanks for your video - saw the movie yesterday - wonderful.
Great review! Thanks for pointing out how the mood of the movie is crafted. I watched this movie soon after it came out and loved it. It was so telling reading the reviews of typical Catholics who missed all the symbolism regarding the women of the church. The most common comment was that the ending was just bowing to the godless progressives of today. Wow, they missed the message by a mile! Thanks for sharing your review.
Well said @thewebdiva5903. The ending on the surface seems unrealistic, but this isn’t a documentary. It’s high-level storytelling. The plot and characters are full of symbolism to convey a deeper message.
Thanks for pointing out the meaning of the lighting choices. I just saw this yesterday. There was one point where there was a weird bit of reflected light (?) next to Lawrence which surprised me since you don't see that in films very often. Also for part of the film you can be wondering if Lawrence is really not wanting the papacy & being truthful about his doubts etc, or whether he, too has ambitions but is hiding them, maybe even from himself. I've also heard someone say this film is anti-Catholic. There is a religious element, but its also about power & politics. Its almost as if a film about Henry VIII is called anti-Protestant, especially if it focuses on his first 2 wives.
Haha good comparison. I don’t see the film as anti catholic. I see it as one possible outcome the conclave could go. That’s the beauty of a conclave, change is possible within Catholicism. I think that’s pretty cool actually. As for the light artifact, I’m not sure where that is, but sometimes light glints can react funny with the camera lenses. But I’d have to see it to know for sure. Also, I do think at one point, Lawrence didn’t want it, but at another point, he did based on what the alternative was. That’s part of what made his character arc so interesting.
Good work analyzing the cinematography of the film and how it conveys the director's version of the story. I like the use of shallow DOF as this is one of my favorite techniques as someone who dabbled in photography. It forces your audience/viewer to stay close to the main item of focus and therefore it is an effective way to deliver a message. Conclave seems like an intriguing film too!
Oh if you haven’t seen it I highly recommend you check it out. And yeah, shallow depth of field is used a lot in cinema, but Conclave really uses it with intention and to great effect.
Thank you so much for this! I loved this movie the moment it started. Rare gift nowadays. A film as painterly as a work of art, with a plot as gripping as a thriller, portraying Catholic rituals not in a documentary fashion, but as vivid, cinematic portraits. Brillant. Going to watch it again next saturday.🙏
This is different. This is fun. With all due respect to many great film reviewers, they play an advanced game of checkers where you play three dimensional chess
I read the book and that tells you more about Cardinal Lawrence’s sentiment towards women. He deliberately forces the thought of women out of his head the day he becomes a priest and only regrets it years later when he physically loses the ability to act on any impulses. In a way, he protects himself from the typical dynamic between the sexes and only gradually as leader of the conclave begins to realize that these very intelligent educated women at the Vatican are condemned to be servants. It’s a weird thing that I’m not totally convinced the author pulled off any more than Alex DeLarge becomes an empathetic family man at the end of Clockwork Orange. In fact, it’s directly opposed to the dead pope’s assessment of Lawrence as a manager and not a shepherd. Maybe what it all comes down to is the former pope’s assessment of the abilities and character of each man. He was a much better chess player than Bellini and he set up his successor in a brilliant chess match using Lawrence as the sacrificial piece. Lawrence would have made a good pope. He’s an honest and decent man. But he’s not outstanding and unique like Benitez. I loved the book and the movie and all the gorgeous cinematography wasn’t lost on me. I didnt need to see Michelangelo’s ceiling.
Amazing context. I was only breaking down the characters based on what I saw in the film, but it seems the author did a great job in setting up Lawrence’s character to help steer the conclave in the right direction. The fact he changed his mind about women over time was a great example of why he was against “certainty” so much, and that was probably what inspired him to make that brilliant speech to start the conclave. Really good subtext that would have been difficult to include in the cinematic version.
I just left my own comment and then scrolled down and read yours. I think you and I saw the same movie, I'm not sure what so many others saw. It was clear from the last shot the filmmaker thought he had made a movie in which "women's roles in the church" was the theme, but I didn't see it. When you tell us there was more of that content in the book, it explains it. In the adaptation they clearly got caught up in artificially creating tension and suspense, drama, etc. Imagine the possibilities if this book would have been adapted by a woman filmmaker, screenwriter. No, I'm tired of letting men off the hook because of their gender, this is just sloppy writing any way you look at it. So many male writers and filmmakers have had no trouble at all adopting a woman's point of view for a specific story... Okay, maybe that's not the point. I appreciate your observations.
A most excellent movie I thoroughly enjoyed it and your review was so wonderful, you entice people to watch the show without really revealing anything that would detract from the show. Bravo 👏, bravo 👏 🎉🎉
I saw this movie in theaters opening night and man oh man was it amazing. The palpable tension combined with the shots and acting combine to make this a movie unlike many I've seen.
I like how things seemed so straightforward, predictable at the start. As more truth came to light, the path seemed less clear and more conflicts arose. In the end, the truth in the light allowed everyone to come to terms with their differences and similarities as to make peace with their choice and with each other. Truth in the light indeed.
Phenomenal video - so fascinating to get this insight into the filmmaking process for this beautiful movie. I've subscribed - looking forward to your next...
@@waitronunit41 please do! And of course let them know how to find my channel if they want to learn more. I have new episodes coming out as often as I can.
I must say as a person who was raised a strict Roman Catholic..(yikes,lol) and have since moved away from religion and God in general.. I found this movie to be fascinating and it may very well be the most interesting movie I've seen this year.... I was hooked from the minute it started... I was hesitant at first because of my current feeling towards the church but pleasantly surprised with This brilliant film
@@jrzygurl I think the film does a good job of balancing the religious aspect with the drama of the conclave itself, and not letting one aspect take over the other. It makes it fun to watch regardless of faith.
Such a nice informative analysis video.. I just watched the movie and watched your video right after it.please keep doing what you are doing it’s great 👍🏻👍🏻
I find your video very amusing because i really like how you focused on the visual aspect of the film and then connected it not just to the storytelling technique but also to its thematical value. I also like how you communicate your thoughts clearly and directly without recurring to clunky word salad. Definitely looking forward to your next videos.
Very insightful review. I did not get the symbolism of the opening walk down the tunnel. I watched the movie on my iPad. With the range of color values, this is really a movie that should be seen in theaters. It was excellent.
Subscribed !! ❤ Succinct and clear, not even adding the role of the captivating classical music leitmotif playing into the hands of visuals - I saw this in the theatre, dubbed since there was no other choice, kiddie movies blasting around the smallest room with 100 ppl max. Not a dull moment.
@@katsweeterly2039 oh yeah, the musical score played perfectly into the tense and shocking process throughout the conclave. Well done on surviving that theater experience and staying in it.
I have a problem with some of the costuming....they got some things wrong. The rochet (white garment) worn over the cassock and under the mozetta is too long. It does not extend past the knee and is NEVER at mid calf length.
I didn't see this movie as anti-Catholic at all. Fiennes in the lead role is a good man. If reviewers think the politicking of the cardinals was bad, they should take a look at historical conclaves that had money openly exchanged, fights breaking out, and two popes being elected purely for political purposes.
I agree with you @FrankinDallas, I don’t see it as anti-catholic either. In fact I see it as a healthy debate on what the cardinals want for their future. There is drama, because humans by nature come with their own flaws. But the conclave ultimately finds a way forward for the Catholic Church, whether everyone likes it or not, that is the process.
@@LorenBehindTheScreen I knowww! i just come from the arts and to me it was an extremely wonderful experience! :) thx for the highlights afterwards with your analysis which is super precise and detail oriented! lovelyyyy!
@@katharinahoppel336 it's a gem of a movie, and you clearly have good visual taste. I can't wait for more works of art like this one from Edward Berger.
I have subscribed as yours is the first analysis I have seen which makes sense of the use of light and shadow to convey art in a movie. Dark scenes normally irritate me as it is so hard to see what is happening (and I don't go to horror films) but this is different and I can understand now. Have you ever analysed any Chinese films such as Hidden Blade by Cheng Er, who also uses cinematic effects very artistically? There will be a new film by him to be released this year which may come to the US, called Intercross or Mermaid (the Chinese change their film names a lot!) and I'd be very interested to know what you think of it whenever it comes.
So glad to have you aboard @kaykeelan. It’s great to have others inspired by the art of cinema to talk to. I have not seen hidden blade, but I’ll look that up, and would definitely be up for any new films that come out by Cheng Er. It’s always exciting to discover new classics of cinema, and conclave was just the first of hopefully many more.
@@LorenBehindTheScreen It's relatively rare I think that an actor is so expressive as Fiennes is in this, that even his eyes don't need to be seen to understand his thoughts. He must become absorbed into the character to imbue it with that level of expertise.
Excuse me, sir. How dare you reveal the mysteries that make this film so great? My appreciation for Berger's masterful work has grown ever more certain and less doubtful now.
Thanks for this. I'm seeing the film next week. I've always found Ralph Fiennes a cold fish of an actor, but he made a good nazi and this sounds like good casting to make him a power broker.
But some Awards francises dont want to admit the best of Conclave… from costume and production design and score to screenplay, actors, and the overall movie… Wonderful… #Oscars #BAFTA #SAGAwards #GoldenGlobes
@@bluevol1976 I agree 100%. The score was abrupt and disruptive, just like the twists and turns during the conclave. It heightened the drama and suspense brilliantly.
Did you notice the dark puddle of something that the gurney wheels passed through as the pope's body was being taken out? It was only on screen for a moment, and I'm not really sure what it symbolized. I'm curious if others noticed, and what they make of it.
Thanks for your clear insights about film craft. For me, all the filming craft in the world doesn't make up for bad writing, a sloppy story. Myself, I was left unaffected by this movie, which was disappointing considering the star power of the cast, and their beautiful work. I found the story really unspecial. It seemed like a fairly typical papal conclave. There is only a weak answer to "Why this conclave, why now?"; ultimately, "Why do I care?" It usually takes several votes to elect a pope as leading candidates move forward and then back in the count. But this was presented in the film as if it were unusual, as if each vote was creating great tension and further threatening the stability of the church itself. Tucci's character spoke of several issues, I didn't think the issue of women in the church was primary, but rather tacked on to the end of the movie with the surprise reveal about gender (which isn't really about women in the church either) and the closing shot. I felt the ghost of John XXIII all over this movie. His papacy was the last time the Catholic church had a real shot at becoming relevant to the modern world. If you're interested in his life and contribution, read Thomas Cahill's beautiful biography, or if you can get a copy of it, Norman Cousins' book "The Improbable Triumverate". Thanks again for your teaching us about filmmaking techniques, this movie was useful for understanding lighting and shadow in particular. I just wish it could have added up to more. Oh, by the way, there's a fun, fictionalized movie that is inspired by Pope John. It has been unavailable for years but is now available on Amazon. It captures Pope John's humanity and playfulness, but don't be fooled, he would have held his own very well in the world of "Conclave", he was a career politician before he was elected pope. It stars a youngish Tom Conti, directed by Robert Young, with surprise roles by Giancarlo Giannini and Edward James Olmos. Also a delightfully droll Fernando Rey.
Really interesting perspective, from someone like yourself, who clearly knows a lot about conclaves and follows the history of the Catholic Church. I think for most conclave viewers (myself included), the entire process was something I’ve never seen before. I do believe there was some drama to the votes swaying one way or the other, which is typical of all politics. And while I agree with you that the end result didn’t directly change women’s role in the church, it does create a wide open doorway, with a pope so connected to women’s plight for fairness and equality in society. I would be curious to check out that movie you describe on Amazon about Pope John. Thanks for the recommendation.
@@LorenBehindTheScreen I'd love to hear your response to Saving Grace. It was streamable when it was first rereleased, but not anymore, not in America. Just DVD/bluray. It's a slow, gentle, light comedy, not dramatic. Fairly sentimental. But when Giannini appears half way through it's so shocking to me. Wow! It might be fun to do some content on filmmaking craft vs. writing. How they support one another and can conflict. My favorite director is Mike Nichols, who always had a strong understanding and value of writing human stories, was never distracted by technique, as to my sensibility, so many filmmakers are. It's like they gotta show off every penny they spent on tuition at film school. In every scene. Thanks again, I'm subscribing now.
I had very mixed feelings about this film. It was beautifully shot, the costuming was magnificent and scene by scene with lighting so well done. The casting was almost perfect. I wanted to believe that underneath these men of the church are still about the gospel in spite of the last many years . Unfortunately, as with all of mankind they are given to sin and venality, I was hoping as leaders they would be sincerely pursuing Christ. Disappointing.
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This was a movie that hooked me from the first minute, keeping it’s grip till the last scene. I haven’t watched a movie this good in YEARS!
@@marjar.5978 agreed! It’s a gem. A great combination of artistic filmmaking and enjoyable characters to watch.
@marjar.5978 - I'm in shock!... I just finished watching this movie today. I was so impressed that I'll have to watch it again, scene by scene.
@@marta2420 I pick up on something new each time I watch it.
Agree!!,,,, this movie was a pleasant surprise for me
I loved the complexity of this movie and the complexity Fiennes portrays as well. I hope several actors get Oscar’s for their fine work.
Fiennes deserves one for sure. I could argue others do too for supporting roles. The question is always, how good are the other nominees they are up against.
I watched Conclave a few days ago- this has helped me understand why it has left such a powerful impression with me. Thank you.
That’s what I’m here for. Happy to have added value to your conclave experience.
This is a very intelligent synopsis,thank you. You waste no energy on hyperbole,and give us the straight facts,especially about Cinematography,that you clearly have experience with.
I’m highly interested in what looks like a brilliant movie.looking forward to more technical movie break downs.❤🇨🇦
Thank you, it’s comments like these that make me want to keep doing this.
I love this film and your analysis was so great! My favorite scene was Cardinal Lawrence’s sermon. Only people with faith will understand the weight and power of doubting.
I agree, that sermon was an incredible moment that Fiennes delivered so powerfully.
Brilliant review. I saw the film when it came out and thought it was astonishing. I love how you highlighted the art of the filmmakers and how it was crafted to work so seemlessly with the story and acting, enhancing both. I agree that Ralph Feines was stunning, although the whole ensemble brought their A game.
Thank you so much! And I couldn’t have summed up the movie better myself than you just did. 🙌🏻
This is a masterful piece of cinema - beautifully shot - the cinematography is fantastic - every frame has purpose to it. Thanks for your video - saw the movie yesterday - wonderful.
@@carmie9400 I couldn’t agree more. I enjoy it just as much every time I watch it.
Great review! Thanks for pointing out how the mood of the movie is crafted. I watched this movie soon after it came out and loved it. It was so telling reading the reviews of typical Catholics who missed all the symbolism regarding the women of the church. The most common comment was that the ending was just bowing to the godless progressives of today. Wow, they missed the message by a mile! Thanks for sharing your review.
Well said @thewebdiva5903. The ending on the surface seems unrealistic, but this isn’t a documentary. It’s high-level storytelling. The plot and characters are full of symbolism to convey a deeper message.
Thanks for pointing out the meaning of the lighting choices. I just saw this yesterday. There was one point where there was a weird bit of reflected light (?) next to Lawrence which surprised me since you don't see that in films very often. Also for part of the film you can be wondering if Lawrence is really not wanting the papacy & being truthful about his doubts etc, or whether he, too has ambitions but is hiding them, maybe even from himself.
I've also heard someone say this film is anti-Catholic. There is a religious element, but its also about power & politics. Its almost as if a film about Henry VIII is called anti-Protestant, especially if it focuses on his first 2 wives.
Haha good comparison. I don’t see the film as anti catholic. I see it as one possible outcome the conclave could go. That’s the beauty of a conclave, change is possible within Catholicism. I think that’s pretty cool actually.
As for the light artifact, I’m not sure where that is, but sometimes light glints can react funny with the camera lenses. But I’d have to see it to know for sure.
Also, I do think at one point, Lawrence didn’t want it, but at another point, he did based on what the alternative was. That’s part of what made his character arc so interesting.
Your video is like a guide to refined aesthetics. Thank you.
Glad to be of service.
Good work analyzing the cinematography of the film and how it conveys the director's version of the story. I like the use of shallow DOF as this is one of my favorite techniques as someone who dabbled in photography. It forces your audience/viewer to stay close to the main item of focus and therefore it is an effective way to deliver a message. Conclave seems like an intriguing film too!
Oh if you haven’t seen it I highly recommend you check it out. And yeah, shallow depth of field is used a lot in cinema, but Conclave really uses it with intention and to great effect.
Great insight and you deserved more subscribers! 👏
Don’t we all? And thank you, so much appreciated!
Thank you so much for this! I loved this movie the moment it started. Rare gift nowadays.
A film as painterly as a work of art, with a plot as gripping as a thriller, portraying Catholic rituals not in a documentary fashion, but as vivid, cinematic portraits. Brillant. Going to watch it again next saturday.🙏
You summed it up perfectly.
Thank you! It was very interesting and enjoyable review. And the film is absolutely earned a Golden Globe for the best script
I’m glad you enjoyed! And the film could easily win other awards going forward. We’ll see what happens.
THANK you. THIS is what I was trying to say when I said the direction was amazing - your use of language in this review is perfect.
@@MaryscottOConnorinTC sometimes the best directing makes it look simple, but it’s quite the opposite beneath the surface.
This is different. This is fun. With all due respect to many great film reviewers, they play an advanced game of checkers where you play three dimensional chess
Then Edward Berger plays 4D chess. Filmmaking is a fun game.
Perplexed? Go back to your basement.
wow ! thanks so much for such a beautiful review and decoding the scenes especially the tunnle scene. Incredible movie.
It’s a lot easier to make a beautiful review when reviewing a beautiful film. Gotta give credit to Edward Berger too 👏🏻
Great summary and explanation
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Amazing, thank you!
I read the book and that tells you more about Cardinal Lawrence’s sentiment towards women. He deliberately forces the thought of women out of his head the day he becomes a priest and only regrets it years later when he physically loses the ability to act on any impulses. In a way, he protects himself from the typical dynamic between the sexes and only gradually as leader of the conclave begins to realize that these very intelligent educated women at the Vatican are condemned to be servants. It’s a weird thing that I’m not totally convinced the author pulled off any more than Alex DeLarge becomes an empathetic family man at the end of Clockwork Orange. In fact, it’s directly opposed to the dead pope’s assessment of Lawrence as a manager and not a shepherd. Maybe what it all comes down to is the former pope’s assessment of the abilities and character of each man. He was a much better chess player than Bellini and he set up his successor in a brilliant chess match using Lawrence as the sacrificial piece. Lawrence would have made a good pope. He’s an honest and decent man. But he’s not outstanding and unique like Benitez.
I loved the book and the movie and all the gorgeous cinematography wasn’t lost on me. I didnt need to see Michelangelo’s ceiling.
Amazing context. I was only breaking down the characters based on what I saw in the film, but it seems the author did a great job in setting up Lawrence’s character to help steer the conclave in the right direction. The fact he changed his mind about women over time was a great example of why he was against “certainty” so much, and that was probably what inspired him to make that brilliant speech to start the conclave. Really good subtext that would have been difficult to include in the cinematic version.
I just left my own comment and then scrolled down and read yours. I think you and I saw the same movie, I'm not sure what so many others saw. It was clear from the last shot the filmmaker thought he had made a movie in which "women's roles in the church" was the theme, but I didn't see it. When you tell us there was more of that content in the book, it explains it. In the adaptation they clearly got caught up in artificially creating tension and suspense, drama, etc. Imagine the possibilities if this book would have been adapted by a woman filmmaker, screenwriter. No, I'm tired of letting men off the hook because of their gender, this is just sloppy writing any way you look at it. So many male writers and filmmakers have had no trouble at all adopting a woman's point of view for a specific story... Okay, maybe that's not the point. I appreciate your observations.
A most excellent movie I thoroughly enjoyed it and your review was so wonderful, you entice people to watch the show without really revealing anything that would detract from the show. Bravo 👏, bravo 👏 🎉🎉
And Edward Berger makes my job easy!
Brilliant analysis!
Thank you so much!
I saw this movie in theaters opening night and man oh man was it amazing. The palpable tension combined with the shots and acting combine to make this a movie unlike many I've seen.
It’s an instant classic. I bet this will age well too.
I like how things seemed so straightforward, predictable at the start. As more truth came to light, the path seemed less clear and more conflicts arose. In the end, the truth in the light allowed everyone to come to terms with their differences and similarities as to make peace with their choice and with each other. Truth in the light indeed.
I love this take. The light brought peace. So simple.
Phenomenal video - so fascinating to get this insight into the filmmaking process for this beautiful movie. I've subscribed - looking forward to your next...
@@nickcstyler thank you so much! Many more coming soon.
Brilliant twist at the end
@@paulinecoburn181 I always love a good twist if I can.
Thank you for sharing your insights and including relevant examples ans scènes. I can appreciate the film more now.
@@javagirl I’m so glad you enjoyed!
I'd like to show this to my writing students who come from film/tv classes.
@@waitronunit41 please do! And of course let them know how to find my channel if they want to learn more. I have new episodes coming out as often as I can.
Beautiful analysis. I loooove your work!!
Thank you so much! Much more to come too.
Excellent review
Much appreciated, and many more to come!
Wow, a different and brilliant perspective on this spectacular movie. Can’t wait to see more like this🎉🎉🎉
Thank you! Looking forward to rolling more out soon.
I’ve just watched it at the cinema… literally thirty minutes ago. What a great movie!
I couldn’t agree more.
Such a beautiful video, please keep making videos like this
Thank you so much, and I will, coming out with a new one tomorrow.
Very Profound breakdown indeed. Thank you for such a well done breakdown of this masterpiece. I appreciate it even more now
Very excellent broadcast. Thank you. PS My pops name was Loren. Happy New Year
Happy new year to you too, and especially to Loren ;)
thank you so much for this review!!!!
it is stunning! how the frames are really perfectly created! like all of them!!!
so glad you enjoyed! lots more to come.
I must say as a person who was raised a strict Roman Catholic..(yikes,lol) and have since moved away from religion and God in general.. I found this movie to be fascinating and it may very well be the most interesting movie I've seen this year.... I was hooked from the minute it started... I was hesitant at first because of my current feeling towards the church but pleasantly surprised with This brilliant film
@@jrzygurl I think the film does a good job of balancing the religious aspect with the drama of the conclave itself, and not letting one aspect take over the other. It makes it fun to watch regardless of faith.
Such a nice informative analysis video.. I just watched the movie and watched your video right after it.please keep doing what you are doing it’s great 👍🏻👍🏻
I’m thrilled to hear that, thank you, and I will! How did you find my video, out of curiosity? Did it pop up in search results?
@@LorenBehindTheScreen yes its showed up in my feeds after I searched for the movie reviews
@@raed_w I'm glad you were able to find and connect to this.
I find your video very amusing because i really like how you focused on the visual aspect of the film and then connected it not just to the storytelling technique but also to its thematical value. I also like how you communicate your thoughts clearly and directly without recurring to clunky word salad. Definitely looking forward to your next videos.
@@OrangeBullMoo thanks so much! Looking forward to showing you many more episodes like this one.
Very insightful review. I did not get the symbolism of the opening walk down the tunnel. I watched the movie on my iPad. With the range of color values, this is really a movie that should be seen in theaters. It was excellent.
@@chipcurry I’m glad this helped your overall viewing experience then.
Just seen the film and really enjoyed this review. Enhanced the experience for me . Thank you .
So glad you enjoyed!
What a great exposition.
Very much appreciated, I’m glad you enjoyed!
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Succinct and clear, not even adding the role of the captivating classical music leitmotif playing into the hands of visuals -
I saw this in the theatre, dubbed since there was no other choice, kiddie movies blasting around the smallest room with 100 ppl max. Not a dull moment.
@@katsweeterly2039 oh yeah, the musical score played perfectly into the tense and shocking process throughout the conclave. Well done on surviving that theater experience and staying in it.
I came, I saw, I liked, and SUBBED! 👍
Amazing! I'm so glad you enjoyed. Much more coming soon.
I have a problem with some of the costuming....they got some things wrong. The rochet (white garment) worn over the cassock and under the mozetta is too long. It does not extend past the knee and is NEVER at mid calf length.
Very interesting. Perhaps it won’t win best costume design then. Gotta get the little things right.
I love a good video essay on Cinema. Nice work, Loren! -LK
@@larrykunofsky6370 thrilled to have you aboard!
I was impressed with all the detail you showed which really made the film as great as it is.
Awesome, thank you!
Ha. I've walked through that tunnel when I was in rome/Vatican. Pretty cool to see it on screen
Hilarious. How many people walk through tunnels in Rome??? I guess that’s a thing there.
@LorenBehindTheScreen I'm 90% certain it's the tunnel take you across the river timber. But I'm sure a local will know for certain
Illuminating!
@@aarondmw-YT an apt word for this movie :)
I didn't see this movie as anti-Catholic at all. Fiennes in the lead role is a good man. If reviewers think the politicking of the cardinals was bad, they should take a look at historical conclaves that had money openly exchanged, fights breaking out, and two popes being elected purely for political purposes.
I agree with you @FrankinDallas, I don’t see it as anti-catholic either. In fact I see it as a healthy debate on what the cardinals want for their future. There is drama, because humans by nature come with their own flaws. But the conclave ultimately finds a way forward for the Catholic Church, whether everyone likes it or not, that is the process.
And some shots are really a work of art in huge print - like i could imagine an incredible exhibition with some of the shots!
The exhibition is in the form of moving images, in this case :)
@@LorenBehindTheScreen I knowww! i just come from the arts and to me it was an extremely wonderful experience! :)
thx for the highlights afterwards with your analysis which is super precise and detail oriented! lovelyyyy!
@@katharinahoppel336 it's a gem of a movie, and you clearly have good visual taste. I can't wait for more works of art like this one from Edward Berger.
Super. Thanks so much!!
I’m glad you enjoyed!
What a great video
Glad you enjoyed it. Many more to come.
@ I’m just a movie fan but your detail about the production was enlightening.
Excellent video. Thanks for sharing your insight of the film.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you so much for enriching an already rich movie!
We all win when that happens.
As a former Catholic, just want to point out one thing. Gold chalices are only used during communion. Nobody drinks from those during a lunch.
I appreciate that. I guess the joke fell a bit flat. Hopefully I got the rest accurately...
Love the thumbnail.
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I have subscribed as yours is the first analysis I have seen which makes sense of the use of light and shadow to convey art in a movie. Dark scenes normally irritate me as it is so hard to see what is happening (and I don't go to horror films) but this is different and I can understand now. Have you ever analysed any Chinese films such as Hidden Blade by Cheng Er, who also uses cinematic effects very artistically? There will be a new film by him to be released this year which may come to the US, called Intercross or Mermaid (the Chinese change their film names a lot!) and I'd be very interested to know what you think of it whenever it comes.
So glad to have you aboard @kaykeelan. It’s great to have others inspired by the art of cinema to talk to. I have not seen hidden blade, but I’ll look that up, and would definitely be up for any new films that come out by Cheng Er. It’s always exciting to discover new classics of cinema, and conclave was just the first of hopefully many more.
@@LorenBehindTheScreen It's relatively rare I think that an actor is so expressive as Fiennes is in this, that even his eyes don't need to be seen to understand his thoughts. He must become absorbed into the character to imbue it with that level of expertise.
@ part of it is also the way he can contort the wrinkles in his face. Those wrinkles come off as layers of wisdom and experience.
Great video, Sir.
@@JKRJ14 much appreciated!
@@LorenBehindTheScreen Looking forward to more movies such as Challengers, Dune II, Furiosa, The Substance, and many more analyses from you.
@ I’m going to get to as many nominated films from 2024 as I can. There are so many good ones.
@@LorenBehindTheScreen Let's go 🔥🔥
Much appreciated. Thanks
Very welcome
Well done!
Thanks for watching!
Excuse me, sir. How dare you reveal the mysteries that make this film so great? My appreciation for Berger's masterful work has grown ever more certain and less doubtful now.
As long as some doubt remains, or else you won't believe in Berger's work.
Very interesting
As was Conclave.
Thanks for this. I'm seeing the film next week. I've always found Ralph Fiennes a cold fish of an actor, but he made a good nazi and this sounds like good casting to make him a power broker.
I think this one is his golden goose
But some Awards francises dont want to admit the best of Conclave… from costume and production design and score to screenplay, actors, and the overall movie… Wonderful…
#Oscars
#BAFTA
#SAGAwards
#GoldenGlobes
As far as the awards go, it really depends how good the other nominated films were. It’s a competitive year for awards.
Thank you for an amazing video ! Surbscribed!
@@noraN33 amazing, thank you Nora!
Well said
Thank you 🙏🏻
I think the musical score had a profound effect, too. It backed up the visuals perfectly.
@@bluevol1976 I agree 100%. The score was abrupt and disruptive, just like the twists and turns during the conclave. It heightened the drama and suspense brilliantly.
guys please subs, we need more review like this
I really appreciate the kind words. I got a new one coming out tomorrow. All I’ll say is, it’s wicked good.
Did you notice the dark puddle of something that the gurney wheels passed through as the pope's body was being taken out? It was only on screen for a moment, and I'm not really sure what it symbolized. I'm curious if others noticed, and what they make of it.
Anything with Tucci in it is good enough for me !
And finally a role that is not his typical typecast too.
I kept looking at all the beautiful marble walls. This guy reminds me of Alice Pierce as Gladys Kravitz.
I see the resemblance
Thanks for your clear insights about film craft. For me, all the filming craft in the world doesn't make up for bad writing, a sloppy story. Myself, I was left unaffected by this movie, which was disappointing considering the star power of the cast, and their beautiful work. I found the story really unspecial. It seemed like a fairly typical papal conclave. There is only a weak answer to "Why this conclave, why now?"; ultimately, "Why do I care?" It usually takes several votes to elect a pope as leading candidates move forward and then back in the count. But this was presented in the film as if it were unusual, as if each vote was creating great tension and further threatening the stability of the church itself. Tucci's character spoke of several issues, I didn't think the issue of women in the church was primary, but rather tacked on to the end of the movie with the surprise reveal about gender (which isn't really about women in the church either) and the closing shot. I felt the ghost of John XXIII all over this movie. His papacy was the last time the Catholic church had a real shot at becoming relevant to the modern world. If you're interested in his life and contribution, read Thomas Cahill's beautiful biography, or if you can get a copy of it, Norman Cousins' book "The Improbable Triumverate". Thanks again for your teaching us about filmmaking techniques, this movie was useful for understanding lighting and shadow in particular. I just wish it could have added up to more. Oh, by the way, there's a fun, fictionalized movie that is inspired by Pope John. It has been unavailable for years but is now available on Amazon. It captures Pope John's humanity and playfulness, but don't be fooled, he would have held his own very well in the world of "Conclave", he was a career politician before he was elected pope. It stars a youngish Tom Conti, directed by Robert Young, with surprise roles by Giancarlo Giannini and Edward James Olmos. Also a delightfully droll Fernando Rey.
Really interesting perspective, from someone like yourself, who clearly knows a lot about conclaves and follows the history of the Catholic Church. I think for most conclave viewers (myself included), the entire process was something I’ve never seen before. I do believe there was some drama to the votes swaying one way or the other, which is typical of all politics. And while I agree with you that the end result didn’t directly change women’s role in the church, it does create a wide open doorway, with a pope so connected to women’s plight for fairness and equality in society. I would be curious to check out that movie you describe on Amazon about Pope John. Thanks for the recommendation.
@@LorenBehindTheScreen I'd love to hear your response to Saving Grace. It was streamable when it was first rereleased, but not anymore, not in America. Just DVD/bluray. It's a slow, gentle, light comedy, not dramatic. Fairly sentimental. But when Giannini appears half way through it's so shocking to me. Wow! It might be fun to do some content on filmmaking craft vs. writing. How they support one another and can conflict. My favorite director is Mike Nichols, who always had a strong understanding and value of writing human stories, was never distracted by technique, as to my sensibility, so many filmmakers are. It's like they gotta show off every penny they spent on tuition at film school. In every scene. Thanks again, I'm subscribing now.
It is a good Film.
Read the book first
I wish I had.
Really good film. Shows the hypocrisy of religion perfectly. !
And how power corrupts
I had very mixed feelings about this film. It was beautifully shot, the costuming was magnificent and scene by scene with lighting so well done. The casting was almost perfect. I wanted to believe that underneath these men of the church are still about the gospel in spite of the last many years . Unfortunately, as with all of mankind they are given to sin and venality, I was hoping as leaders they would be sincerely pursuing Christ. Disappointing.
Thank you for watching and writing some thoughts, your observations are appreciated.
Yes, most worshippers are deluded in thinking their Church is a force for good.
@@frankward8336 humanity’s flaws are why we have such good stories like Conclave.
treated differently FROM