Never mind bitcoin mining, I want to replace the AMD cards with Nvidia cards and use this thing for 3D rendering! Just and imagine the speed boost you would get with Octane, Cycles, Presto, FurryBall etc... *drools* :D
Doesn't matter, once the data is loaded into the GPU the GPU does the rest. Using a PCIe 1x connection won't make much of an impact on the speed of the render
Chickenkeeper24 with 3D rendering A LOT of data throughput is required to get good results. At least for non-static 3D rendering. If you're rendering a static 3D scene it might just be fine. But then again... thread synchronization and the likes...
True, but as I said the bus speed only really matters when loading the data onto the GPU. In most cases the time it takes is only a fraction of the total render time per frame, so render times aren't really affected too much by a slower bus unless your scene takes only a few seconds to render (at least with Cycles anyway) However even quite complex scenes could render in seconds with that setup, the performance gains from the extra cards might significantly outweigh the slowdown from the bus, but I agree that it probably just depends on the project being rendered Source: www.systemagnostic.com/faqs/
jonathan oxlade Why would you spend all that money just to play games? If I build a pc that powerful, I'll use it for something productive like making TH-cam content or something.
I also have one of those Gigabyte R9 280x. Really awesome card would recommend to anyone who wants a high performance card. Best purchase I have made in my pc.
nope...probably the loading screen will crash cuz the CPU he uses (I didn't listen to it all...does he name it?) can be extremely slow like an Atom x5 or an I3.... cuz the CPU doesnt do much...so....no
lmCIoudz I think he's absolutely right. the architecture on the Nvidia GPU isn't as efficient as the AMD Radeon. Addition to that, the price that you're paying for Nvidia is not worth it.
One question, how much time does that rig take to pay itself considering its price, cost and amount of electricity it uses and value of coins it mines in money that we need to buy this rig and pay for electricity?
Michael Perrella do u think that would apply for this build at present or in a few months time if we said the build cost 1500$ for 6 r9 280's + electricity cost another 500$ roughly speaking we could mine 10 coins in within 6 months and cover our costs??
Simeon Reed from the research I have done, mind you it's not personal experience, for a 2k build you should be looking at a return in around 6-8 with possible profit as well depending on which cryptocurrency you choose.
Michael Perrella thanks for the reply. i just really started researching it properly today i think i might be a year or 2 late on the demand on the system in regards to making large profit. what would you do buy an asic's card specilized for minning only or do a build like we have here with multiple universal gpu's
Mike, crypto payment systems use a digital wallet. All that is, is a software program on a device, laptop etc. the wallet software creates account numbers like a bank account number. when you mine the reward is sent to your wallet. you can then transfer that amount to a company called coinbase that will deposit it to your bank account.
Marko Mravak You need a toilet filter to reduce the spam calculations. Anuscoin mining has a severe problem with impurities in the anuscoins nowadays that simply cannot be calculated, and as such the cards use up horsepower destroying the uncalculable impurities. A toilet filter simply does the job of scanning all of the anuscoins at high speed and doing this for the Anuscoin mining machine. Lawl jk
In your rig the GPUs are too close to each other - because of that your cards might produce more additional heat and that might force you to put the fan speed few % higher and that might cause more power draining and shortening the GPUs life span... Cmmon - just screw them few more inches away from each other! Otherwise - a great video as always NCIX!
+Reo! Vendredi +kiran seehra ASIC: Application Specific Integrated Circuit. The "ASIC Cards" they always refer to are Application Specific Integrated Circuits designed for mining Bitcoins. However, there are many other types of ASIC devices, such as the S-DD1 Enhancement Chip for the Nintendo Super Famicom, which was an ASIC chip for decompressing highly compressed sprite and audio data to free up valuable CPU time for actually playing the game. There are ASIC cards for Litecoin, they just can't be used for Bitcoin, and vice versa.
yea more like wormhole generating machines attached to a plywood shed in your backyard that goes faster than the speed of light and outruns time itself and goes to another universe and back and when it gets back you will have like alot of money from anus coins and everyone will just bow down to you and your plywood shed with the 6 overpriced wormhole machines on the top... yea. you should get this bro. its crazy when you cant see yourself in the mirror because your moving faster than yourself :$
pfft, Folding@Home is way more fun. A friend of mine has spent over $400,000 on folding@home rigs - getting nothing but points and a feeling of helping someone ^^
ASICs are coming to Litecoin. If you think you're going to profit from buying GPUs now and mine later, think again. However, GPU mining may still be viable in the future in some other coin with a different algorithm. Some guy is developing GPU mining software for Primecoin. So for the GPU miners out there, just hope he succeeds.
Back in my day, people said scrypt (the algorithm litecoin uses) couldn't use gpus to generate hashes and now they're going to have ASICS?.. Man.. the future hurts my brains
Linus, you've clearly not spent much time looking into this stuff. Risers are the most expensive thing in mining. Every bastage is after them, the suppliers know and have ramped up their prices. Cheapest way is shipping from China/Hong Kong, but there's loong ass delivery times and that's discounting when they don't turn up (just put in a re-shipping request as the first lot didn't turn up).
Quadro cards are absolutely terrible for mining, and ASIC mining is dominated by AMD cards due to their high hashrate. See here en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison for the details.
I need help!! So I'm building a rig and I've got one major question. How did linus put 6 graphics cards into his motherboard if he only had 1PCIE Express slot? Don't you need 6PCIE Express slots if you wanted to put in 6 graphics cards?
They are x1 (thats the speed) PCIe slots that doesnt mean there is only 1. Thats the speed. For example: If you plug in a graphics card for GAMING with NO RISERS like every normal person you would put into a x16 PCIe slot. If you do SLI, the second slot will most likely be a x8 speed PCIe slot. Does that make sense now? :)
The only reason I would ever mine is if I was planning a sick rig anyways. Buy 3 more 280xs and build an epic gaming rig, use it to mine/game, then you still get the hardware and can use it. Then just hope you make up electricity costs and youd be ok.
north seven o five Not to mention that it wouldn't even work ;p AMD/Nvidia drivers don't actually support more then 4 cards and the motherboard you would be using to take advantage of that many cards would be very specialized and horrible for gaming. Just look at this motherboard in this video, it is using 6 pcie 1x slots, that just wouldn't cut it for gaming.
xNo L1m1tZx I know you didn't. Somewhere else in the comments you mentioned that you're a miner, or you implied it in some way. I posted it to show that NCIX aren't revolutionizing the way mining is being done with this ;)
I did the math, and given the current price of 280x ($400), it would take 5 months of mining litecoins just to recoup the cost of GPUs alone, if you managed to get them at the MSRP of $300, then it would still take 3.5 months to recoup your money, not to mention the cost of all the other hardware. Mining litecoins isn't worth it now, better to just buy them and hope the price goes up, or mine altcoin/ dogecoin, or just avoid crypto currency altogether
George K. yah but if people know you were mining on it, they are devalued pretty bad, unless you lie of course, that is why I won't be buying a used Radieon card anytime soon
d3rrial depends on your power cost, if you get power for free, then it is a pretty good investment,about $22 a day in bitcoins, and two 290x is about $1100, so you will have your money back in about 10 weeks minus the cost of electricity. So many assumptions and a lot of volatility so do at your own risk
Don't know why, but after he showed the triple fan 280x'es I would imagine if you placed the 'case' on a smooth surface it would slowly slide to the left :D
So, can someone make a self contained, self sufficient rig? I am talking all the hardware to mine, plus a solar panel array, that you give access internet only. It would be hard to get enough power probably but imagine that... you just stick it outside within WiFi distance of your house and forget it. It would be cool as well, lots of airflow.
but you will have to cover the whole board to protect it from the rain, so it will be pointless? and the heat from the transformer will also effect your pc, you will need a bank of batteries, a voltage regulator, and at that point you may as well put it inside...
They have started taking pre-orders for Bitcoin miners in June 2012. They announced that they would ship in November 2012. They actually started shipping in July 2013, but not to the people who invested the most, but to those who invested the least. People who put a lot of money into BFL got screwed over big time, some have been waiting from all the way in the beginning to November 2013, 1 year AFTER they said that they would ship. And even then they didn't keep their promise: Promised was: 1W/GH/s. What they delivered was 9W/GH/s. Then they missed their temperature targets as well, part of their product line had to be abandoned and the buyers of these were "compensated" with weaker hardware. Then, without prior notice and no apparent reason they doubled their asking price in April 2013. Things have happened in this company. They made a lot of people very unhappy.
I've been on the waitlist at Memory Express for 2 months just to buy TWO 280x cards. Mining looks pretty sweet, if you have the money to get started. But limited stock makes this ambition fall flat as soon as it gets started D; I'd sure like to buy some 280s! Someone, take my money! Cool video, Linus! ALSO, question: Will a single Corsair AX760 power 2x 280x's appropriately while mining? Or would they be maxed out unhealthily? Thanks
I would love for Linus to do a setup guide to litecoin mining, almost everyone that I found has special exceptions, if someone could direct me to a good solo mining litecoin tutorial that would be awesome...
Solo mining Litecoins is not going to net you any money. You won't find a block. I don't know the exact statistics, but its around as likely as getting struck by lightning. Mining Litecoins at all isn't really profitable anymore anyways. I'd recommend looking into middlecoin.com. For software I recommend BFGMiner, but most people seem to use cgminer (even tho they dropped GPU support..) there's tons of guides on the internet, but its basically almost self explanatory.
jonoc5 getting struck by lightning must then be a very common phenomenon... ;) Even if 10-20% chance of finding a block per year were true, given the current difficulty: The difficulty is rising rather quickly, meaning that the difficulty will stay well ahead of your chances of finding a block.
Yeah. Linus didn't build this rig tho. He's basically (one of their PR faces), he does the moderation for the videos for NCIX and thats it. I doubt Linus is even interested in mining at all. The videos here were very strongly pushed by Wheels, not Linus. It's also NCIX keeping your cards from you. Linus is merely representing NCIX publicly, he actually has his own company (Linus Media Group iirc) that is unrelated to NCIX.
Let's say it gives around 4200KH/s and you are mining 24/7 then with the current price of LiteCoin minus the power cost you would get around 15$ (an average counting in the rising network diff and pool fee) per day of profit. So that would be about 260 days to break even (assuming the crypto-bubble will not burst by then and the prices will not go down)
Yeah.... about running 3 280x's on an 850watt plus mobo/cpu/powered risers especially a 80plus bronze. Even undervolted i'd be VERY weary. Gold should also be the minimum. You want to be at 80% of the psu's max power or it wont last you very long. 2x 1000watt should be your sweet spot for this kinda setup
Mike a good analogy is thinking of mining as transaction verification. So just like MasterCard has banks of computers verifying credit card transactions Miners verify transactions for a crytocurrency payment platform. in a crypto payment platform tye transactions can be verified by anyone with a computer and some software. For doing this you get paid a small fee. So since a single organization does not own or operate crypto currency payment systems it requires this distributed verification model
Wheels probably made them do it. He convinced that they can throw this as a product on the market, based on their GPU sale numbers and then they let him make the videos. So its basically an NCIX product announcement
H81 Pro btc motherboard, that machine has powered risers, this board supplies the extra molex. Probably a broken one from shorting, note: no powered risers needed for this board everyone. NCIX!!! One question as I'm at this point in the build, how the hell do you get two PSUs running the same time without everything bliwing up!
These cards are locked at 1.2 volt. Plus with 3 fan it takes more power then typical 2 fan 280x. At full load these card uses 290 to 310 watts. All depends on ambient temp. I have 3 running with a 1200 gold psu,ssd and sempron145. At ambient temp of 50 in the garage. It runs 1000 to 1050 watts. I undervolt to 1.075 each card using Trixx but only saving 20 to 40 watts total. Tbh those PSU won't last long, running at full load all night and day.
As a previous tri fire user. You have to know that such a system will dumb a lot of heat in the room so, if you are not going to pay for a decent air cooler in your room then don't consider buying it. The heat will cause the overall temperature of the room to rise which will affect the temperature of the graphics cards making it higher. And as the heat builds up in the room the hotter the cards will get. Which will eventually cause the cards to throttle. There is also a second note. The design of stacking the cards like this is horrible because the airflow will be horrible. If you are considering such a system. take the time to consider watercooling it and do your calculations to see if it will pay off or not.
Water cooling still dumps heat into the area that your radiators are at, so where ever your radiators are they can still get poor ventilation, and cause your liquid cooled gpus to over heat. Also the added expense of liquid cooling would make it even more retarded to crypto mine.
Psychodegu True and this is why i stated "if you are not going to pay for a decent air cooler in your room then don't consider buying it" And buy air cooler i meant air conditioner.
While Antec are some of the best PSU brands, 850W for 3x R9 is in no way ovewrkill. Gigabyte are also voltage locked and they eat 250-300W/each from the wall. Even more if you keep'em above 80 degrees.
Help Needed! I have ASRock Fatal1ty Motherboard 2 AX860 power supply 6 Radeon R9 280X graphic cards I used HDMI connected to the monitor and it says no signal the processor fan is on and there is ticking sound from the power supply the keyboard is not powered on and nothing else is coming on Please help
I hope no one is using GPU's to mine bitcoins that would be just sad. You can pay like 60 bucks to get a miner that runs 40 gigahahes. compared to what one of those gpu's can make which is like 300 megahashes for each GPU. This setup would be good for maybe DogeCoin on LiteCoin mining which relies in scrypt computing.
Linus quick question. 1 card. same model. but 2gb vs 4gb of ram. will it affect mining performance?And is it worth the extra 40-60$? (specifically r9 270x windforce card for gaming/mining on single screen)
so, can you tell me the approx. price for that monster? and since this video is already 2years old, maybe there is new (better) options? can you share if you know? And this video was really cool! thank you man. have a nice day
Can you please tell me how to run one system with 2 power supplies. I want to build a system with 6 x r9 270. Each card running roughly 225watts, for a total of 1350 watts. I plan on buying 2 x 80plus gold 750w power supplies. also, that amount of power sufficient for the entire system? Thank you in advance.
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Never mind bitcoin mining, I want to replace the AMD cards with Nvidia cards and use this thing for 3D rendering! Just and imagine the speed boost you would get with Octane, Cycles, Presto, FurryBall etc... *drools* :D
Problem: These applications are all very I/O heavy, so the PCIe x1 won't do you any favors :/
Doesn't matter, once the data is loaded into the GPU the GPU does the rest. Using a PCIe 1x connection won't make much of an impact on the speed of the render
Chickenkeeper24 with 3D rendering A LOT of data throughput is required to get good results. At least for non-static 3D rendering. If you're rendering a static 3D scene it might just be fine. But then again... thread synchronization and the likes...
True, but as I said the bus speed only really matters when loading the data onto the GPU. In most cases the time it takes is only a fraction of the total render time per frame, so render times aren't really affected too much by a slower bus unless your scene takes only a few seconds to render (at least with Cycles anyway)
However even quite complex scenes could render in seconds with that setup, the performance gains from the extra cards might significantly outweigh the slowdown from the bus, but I agree that it probably just depends on the project being rendered
Source: www.systemagnostic.com/faqs/
CHICKEN!!!!!!!!
A year old video and the Chasis and PCIe Risers still hasnt arrived :(
BackPageGamer ... there have been for like three years...
also this thing...
Well if the Bitcoin exchange market ever crashes at least you'll have a pretty overkill gaming rig.
This rig will suck at gaming due to the GPU's low bandwidth. Plus, the i3 might be a bottleneck.
BuildMeASnowmanBiatch hahhahhah lol why waste money on this pile of shit
I rather have a gaming rig that will do normal tasks like surfing the net
jonathan oxlade Why would you spend all that money just to play games? If I build a pc that powerful, I'll use it for something productive like making TH-cam content or something.
jonathan oxlade Because that investment can make you more than just simply buying another gaming rig after. I started when Bit coins were $88 a piece.
***** the mobo would't be that good for gaming...
Stop gpu abuse
1:37 a special .... frodotype? wat....
+Anmol Joseph 0:56 "Hardway"
A special Frodotype has hairier feet, is 2 inches taller and has a special built in ring pocket, similar to a special Bilbotype.
I also have one of those Gigabyte R9 280x. Really awesome card would recommend to anyone who wants a high performance card. Best purchase I have made in my pc.
Takes you more then a year to earn back this rig atleast
can I play crysis wars on it?
+thenunez96 lmao i was just gonna say the same thing. what frame rates can i get?
nope...probably the loading screen will crash cuz the CPU he uses (I didn't listen to it all...does he name it?) can be extremely slow like an Atom x5 or an I3.... cuz the CPU doesnt do much...so....no
Now I know where all the good AMD cards went -_-
Can someone give me a solid reason why nvidia is not good for bit coin moning?
***** Ok, 1 reason. Why would someone blow their money with no return from mining on 6x gtx 780ti's 690's or Titan's?
***** lets say in one word, architecture, amd arquitecture works better for mining than intel or Nvidia one
***** No. You're a moron. Don't comment on something you know nothing about.
lmCIoudz I think he's absolutely right. the architecture on the Nvidia GPU isn't as efficient as the AMD Radeon. Addition to that, the price that you're paying for Nvidia is not worth it.
After the broken pin cpu, this is the coolest build ncix has ever done.
I felt several million hardcore gamers cried out in horror. And then, silence...
Silence? You have quite obviously never been within a mile of an R9 290x ;)
d3rrial My Tri-X cooler is practically silent. Hazaah.
Dwagon For now. I had a few of those cards now. They get loud after they run 24/7 for a few months lol
One question, how much time does that rig take to pay itself considering its price, cost and amount of electricity it uses and value of coins it mines in money that we need to buy this rig and pay for electricity?
for an optimized rig Ive heard around 3-6 months
Michael Perrella do u think that would apply for this build at present or in a few months time if we said the build cost 1500$ for 6 r9 280's + electricity cost another 500$ roughly speaking we could mine 10 coins in within 6 months and cover our costs??
Simeon Reed from the research I have done, mind you it's not personal experience, for a 2k build you should be looking at a return in around 6-8 with possible profit as well depending on which cryptocurrency you choose.
Michael Perrella thanks for the reply. i just really started researching it properly today i think i might be a year or 2 late on the demand on the system in regards to making large profit. what would you do buy an asic's card specilized for minning only or do a build like we have here with multiple universal gpu's
Mike, crypto payment systems use a digital wallet. All that is, is a software program on a device, laptop etc. the wallet software creates account numbers like a bank account number. when you mine the reward is sent to your wallet. you can then transfer that amount to a company called coinbase that will deposit it to your bank account.
Tryed anuscoin mining. But people in the store would not take it. Something about the coins stinking...
xD
:D
Marko Mravak You need a toilet filter to reduce the spam calculations. Anuscoin mining has a severe problem with impurities in the anuscoins nowadays that simply cannot be calculated, and as such the cards use up horsepower destroying the uncalculable impurities. A toilet filter simply does the job of scanning all of the anuscoins at high speed and doing this for the Anuscoin mining machine.
Lawl jk
Prove that you're rich.
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is that kinda like buttcoin?
In your rig the GPUs are too close to each other - because of that your cards might produce more additional heat and that might force you to put the fan speed few % higher and that might cause more power draining and shortening the GPUs life span... Cmmon - just screw them few more inches away from each other! Otherwise - a great video as always NCIX!
But how will it run mine sweeper?
You should come back to this with liquid-cooled Fury Nanos.
A usb does better than any gpu today at bitcoin or litecoin
+Reo! Vendredi +kiran seehra
ASIC: Application Specific Integrated Circuit. The "ASIC Cards" they always refer to are Application Specific Integrated Circuits designed for mining Bitcoins. However, there are many other types of ASIC devices, such as the S-DD1 Enhancement Chip for the Nintendo Super Famicom, which was an ASIC chip for decompressing highly compressed sprite and audio data to free up valuable CPU time for actually playing the game.
There are ASIC cards for Litecoin, they just can't be used for Bitcoin, and vice versa.
Amaroqdricaldari I didn't say they were cross compatible lol
+kiran seehra Neither did I, that was mainly replying to Reo above.
Amaroqdricaldari Ah okay
So basically its a toy car with 6 rockets strapped to the back of it... Seems legit.
yea more like wormhole generating machines attached to a plywood shed in your backyard that goes faster than the speed of light and outruns time itself and goes to another universe and back and when it gets back you will have like alot of money from anus coins and everyone will just bow down to you and your plywood shed with the 6 overpriced wormhole machines on the top... yea. you should get this bro. its crazy when you cant see yourself in the mirror because your moving faster than yourself :$
That was to complicated for even me to handle. Mind blown!
In the end what we are really interested in is the result. How much is the average rate for litecoin mining? quantity/hour or so?
Not telling :p
where do they build those skeleton case and where can I buy it...
pfft, Folding@Home is way more fun.
A friend of mine has spent over $400,000 on folding@home rigs - getting nothing but points and a feeling of helping someone ^^
Do you get money from folding@home?
ASICs are coming to Litecoin. If you think you're going to profit from buying GPUs now and mine later, think again. However, GPU mining may still be viable in the future in some other coin with a different algorithm. Some guy is developing GPU mining software for Primecoin. So for the GPU miners out there, just hope he succeeds.
Back in my day, people said scrypt (the algorithm litecoin uses) couldn't use gpus to generate hashes and now they're going to have ASICS?.. Man.. the future hurts my brains
I've been mining lite coins with my 7950 at 1100mhz for over a day now, already have .2 coins! I'm getting about 630 k/hash per second :)
Linus, you've clearly not spent much time looking into this stuff. Risers are the most expensive thing in mining. Every bastage is after them, the suppliers know and have ramped up their prices.
Cheapest way is shipping from China/Hong Kong, but there's loong ass delivery times and that's discounting when they don't turn up (just put in a re-shipping request as the first lot didn't turn up).
How are the Quadro cards for mining? Aren't they made specifically for number crunching?
Quadro cards are absolutely terrible for mining, and ASIC mining is dominated by AMD cards due to their high hashrate. See here en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison for the details.
Ok thanks guys i'll have a mooch
Andrew Moore Yay, a qualified comment on TH-cam! My life is complete!
Linus could you do a setup video for linux?
No ^__^
Linus the mad scientist. We all knew this was gonna happen some day :)
Is this good enough for minecraft mining?
I need help!! So I'm building a rig and I've got one major question. How did linus put 6 graphics cards into his motherboard if he only had 1PCIE Express slot? Don't you need 6PCIE Express slots if you wanted to put in 6 graphics cards?
did you not watch the video, pcie risers
It does have 6 pci slots. check the link to the board in the description -.-
asrock H81 Pro BTC
They are x1 (thats the speed) PCIe slots
that doesnt mean there is only 1. Thats the speed.
For example: If you plug in a graphics card for GAMING with NO RISERS like every normal person you would put into a x16 PCIe slot. If you do SLI, the second slot will most likely be a x8 speed PCIe slot. Does that make sense now? :)
david fli PCIE risers don't increase how many slots you have douchebag...
More Mining Videos This Winter Please!
Which playlist are these newer tech tip episodes in ? I can't find them
so what is a mining rig?
and what would i use it for?
and would any games take advantage of 6 cards?
omg im so confused right now
The only reason I would ever mine is if I was planning a sick rig anyways. Buy 3 more 280xs and build an epic gaming rig, use it to mine/game, then you still get the hardware and can use it. Then just hope you make up electricity costs and youd be ok.
north seven o five
Not to mention that it wouldn't even work ;p AMD/Nvidia drivers don't actually support more then 4 cards and the motherboard you would be using to take advantage of that many cards would be very specialized and horrible for gaming. Just look at this motherboard in this video, it is using 6 pcie 1x slots, that just wouldn't cut it for gaming.
As a suggestion, I would recommend you make them easily stackable.
openrigs.com/giorgina-stackable-gpu-frame have a nice day ;)
d3rrial Wasn't asking for myself, but I'm sure someone will find this useful.
xNo L1m1tZx I know you didn't. Somewhere else in the comments you mentioned that you're a miner, or you implied it in some way. I posted it to show that NCIX aren't revolutionizing the way mining is being done with this ;)
When you said "Anus Coin", I laughed so hard that I began coughing and choking!
That made my day!
Mine too! LOL
Im getting a feeling NCIX is going to be the next big vendor to accept BTC as payment after TigerDirect. ;)
When are you guys going to have this available to buy?
How can I use 2 power supply in one motherboard?
I did the math, and given the current price of 280x ($400), it would take 5 months of mining litecoins just to recoup the cost of GPUs alone, if you managed to get them at the MSRP of $300, then it would still take 3.5 months to recoup your money, not to mention the cost of all the other hardware. Mining litecoins isn't worth it now, better to just buy them and hope the price goes up, or mine altcoin/ dogecoin, or just avoid crypto currency altogether
you can always sell the GPUs you don't need :P but yeah... litecoin isn't worth mining anymore
George K.
yah but if people know you were mining on it, they are devalued pretty bad, unless you lie of course, that is why I won't be buying a used Radieon card anytime soon
I'm making 0.024 btc per day with 2 R9 290X at stock clocks. They're doing around 1.6mh/s
(Just to give you some extra values for calculation)
Sangeet Khatri Are you implying that all miners are unemployed?
d3rrial
depends on your power cost, if you get power for free, then it is a pretty good investment,about $22 a day in bitcoins, and two 290x is about $1100, so you will have your money back in about 10 weeks minus the cost of electricity. So many assumptions and a lot of volatility so do at your own risk
Don't know why, but after he showed the triple fan 280x'es I would imagine if you placed the 'case' on a smooth surface it would slowly slide to the left :D
You guys should update this. Nowadays Litecoin is dominated by ASICs and GPU miners only mine ZCash or Ethereum.
so its been 3 years... are the PCIe risers here yet and what about the chasis
I bet you are getting famous right now, considering the big digi currency hype recently :D
PCIe Risers What is the molex, have to plug in power or are serving grounding????
So, can someone make a self contained, self sufficient rig? I am talking all the hardware to mine, plus a solar panel array, that you give access internet only. It would be hard to get enough power probably but imagine that... you just stick it outside within WiFi distance of your house and forget it. It would be cool as well, lots of airflow.
If you put it outside it would gather like a metric ton of dust
Armadillito you also need a transformer, as solor panels don't make 240, and why would you put it outside? its a computer you fool!
Ozzie Peck For cooling and cause it is a cazy idea.
but you will have to cover the whole board to protect it from the rain, so it will be pointless? and the heat from the transformer will also effect your pc, you will need a bank of batteries, a voltage regulator, and at that point you may as well put it inside...
Ozzie Peck ok, ok, :-(
I have heard lots of hate about Butterfly Labs. Whats so bad about them?
They have started taking pre-orders for Bitcoin miners in June 2012. They announced that they would ship in November 2012. They actually started shipping in July 2013, but not to the people who invested the most, but to those who invested the least. People who put a lot of money into BFL got screwed over big time, some have been waiting from all the way in the beginning to November 2013, 1 year AFTER they said that they would ship. And even then they didn't keep their promise: Promised was: 1W/GH/s. What they delivered was 9W/GH/s. Then they missed their temperature targets as well, part of their product line had to be abandoned and the buyers of these were "compensated" with weaker hardware. Then, without prior notice and no apparent reason they doubled their asking price in April 2013. Things have happened in this company. They made a lot of people very unhappy.
Where can i find a case like this? I mean, i cant get it from plain tubes i dont have the equipment. so?
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I've been on the waitlist at Memory Express for 2 months just to buy TWO 280x cards.
Mining looks pretty sweet, if you have the money to get started.
But limited stock makes this ambition fall flat as soon as it gets started D;
I'd sure like to buy some 280s!
Someone, take my money!
Cool video, Linus!
ALSO, question: Will a single Corsair AX760 power 2x 280x's appropriately while mining? Or would they be maxed out unhealthily?
Thanks
At 59 seconds Linus says Hardway instead of Hardware. These are the moments in which I vicariously waste my life away.
Where can I buy the Chassis and Risers. Also, what motherboard has the most pci-e slots (any kind will do)
I would love for Linus to do a setup guide to litecoin mining, almost everyone that I found has special exceptions, if someone could direct me to a good solo mining litecoin tutorial that would be awesome...
Solo mining Litecoins is not going to net you any money. You won't find a block. I don't know the exact statistics, but its around as likely as getting struck by lightning. Mining Litecoins at all isn't really profitable anymore anyways. I'd recommend looking into middlecoin.com. For software I recommend BFGMiner, but most people seem to use cgminer (even tho they dropped GPU support..) there's tons of guides on the internet, but its basically almost self explanatory.
It nowhere near as unlikely as being struck by lightening, over a year it's around 10-20% depending on your hash power.
jonoc5 getting struck by lightning must then be a very common phenomenon... ;)
Even if 10-20% chance of finding a block per year were true, given the current difficulty: The difficulty is rising rather quickly, meaning that the difficulty will stay well ahead of your chances of finding a block.
I've been waiting for my 280X for a while now and haven't got it yet, but i guess i found my card here!
Damn you linus, damn you :(
Yeah. Linus didn't build this rig tho. He's basically (one of their PR faces), he does the moderation for the videos for NCIX and thats it. I doubt Linus is even interested in mining at all. The videos here were very strongly pushed by Wheels, not Linus. It's also NCIX keeping your cards from you. Linus is merely representing NCIX publicly, he actually has his own company (Linus Media Group iirc) that is unrelated to NCIX.
it looks like the electric company and hardware makers are the real winners in mining!
one more question sir, what would be the speed of this type build (TH/S)? or how many more r9280 would you need to get a tera hash per sec?
good old mining times ^^
i wonder if you can run it off a couple solar panels during the day
So that rig is gotta be priced $3500-4000 lol. I suppose it might not take a long time to pay itself off though.
Let's say it gives around 4200KH/s and you are mining 24/7 then with the current price of LiteCoin minus the power cost you would get around 15$ (an average counting in the rising network diff and pool fee) per day of profit. So that would be about 260 days to break even (assuming the crypto-bubble will not burst by then and the prices will not go down)
Rafał Borowski Don't forget that you have to pay for electricity as well.
Zeke already took that into consideration in the maths
Rafał Borowski Ooops, my bad. But still, prices may vary in different countries.
Zeke Well I took the price here - in dollars it's around 0.17$ for 1kWh
so the pcie risers has both a 1x connector and 16x connector and molex connector
Would this work for Folding@home, and BOINC? Or is there a better way to build.
Yeah.... about running 3 280x's on an 850watt plus mobo/cpu/powered risers especially a 80plus bronze. Even undervolted i'd be VERY weary. Gold should also be the minimum.
You want to be at 80% of the psu's max power or it wont last you very long. 2x 1000watt should be your sweet spot for this kinda setup
Mike a good analogy is thinking of mining as transaction verification. So just like MasterCard has banks of computers verifying credit card transactions Miners verify transactions for a crytocurrency payment platform. in a crypto payment platform tye transactions can be verified by anyone with a computer and some software. For doing this you get paid a small fee. So since a single organization does not own or operate crypto currency payment systems it requires this distributed verification model
clarification: this video's overall composition seems strange in comparison to ncix's usual HQ everything
Wheels probably made them do it. He convinced that they can throw this as a product on the market, based on their GPU sale numbers and then they let him make the videos. So its basically an NCIX product announcement
^_^
These Antec PSUs only support 2 graphics cards (4x6+2 connector). How do you managed to get 3 cards running?
The only issue with a build like this is, how long will it take to break even on the hardware investment?
H81 Pro btc motherboard, that machine has powered risers, this board supplies the extra molex. Probably a broken one from shorting, note: no powered risers needed for this board everyone.
NCIX!!! One question as I'm at this point in the build, how the hell do you get two PSUs running the same time without everything bliwing up!
These cards are locked at 1.2 volt. Plus with 3 fan it takes more power then typical 2 fan 280x. At full load these card uses 290 to 310 watts. All depends on ambient temp. I have 3 running with a 1200 gold psu,ssd and sempron145. At ambient temp of 50 in the garage. It runs 1000 to 1050 watts. I undervolt to 1.075 each card using Trixx but only saving 20 to 40 watts total. Tbh those PSU won't last long, running at full load all night and day.
but can it run minesweeper?
Wouldn't it be better if the videocards were horizontally?
So that the other cards don't block the airflow?
when is this rig gonna be up for sale.. im so ready to buy one.. and do u ship to US ?
As a previous tri fire user.
You have to know that such a system will dumb a lot of heat in the room so, if you are not going to pay for a decent air cooler in your room then don't consider buying it.
The heat will cause the overall temperature of the room to rise which will affect the temperature of the graphics cards making it higher. And as the heat builds up in the room the hotter the cards will get. Which will eventually cause the cards to throttle.
There is also a second note. The design of stacking the cards like this is horrible because the airflow will be horrible.
If you are considering such a system. take the time to consider watercooling it and do your calculations to see if it will pay off or not.
Water cooling still dumps heat into the area that your radiators are at, so where ever your radiators are they can still get poor ventilation, and cause your liquid cooled gpus to over heat. Also the added expense of liquid cooling would make it even more retarded to crypto mine.
Psychodegu
True and this is why i stated "if you are not going to pay for a decent air cooler in your room then don't consider buying it" And buy air cooler i meant air conditioner.
Could you set this up to fold instead?
Awesome ! This got. E really interested in mining coins. Why don't you guys use 6 7990s ?
Can this be used for gaming?
That face Linus at 1:48..xD
"Anuscoin" I lost it.
Can we use gtx or quadro for mining?
Also would be nice to see how to get the Chasis.
Hi NCIX, a question... are you mining?
idk if it has been asked here... but what is the Hash Rate of this setup ? +/-
how much whould a rig like this one cost? And how much whould it make per day?
they have to be the same gfx model?
While Antec are some of the best PSU brands, 850W for 3x R9 is in no way ovewrkill. Gigabyte are also voltage locked and they eat 250-300W/each from the wall. Even more if you keep'em above 80 degrees.
have you guys actually got this rig to mine with 6 GPUs? What motherboard are you using?
Help Needed!
I have ASRock Fatal1ty Motherboard
2 AX860 power supply
6 Radeon R9 280X graphic cards
I used HDMI connected to the monitor and it says no signal
the processor fan is on and there is ticking sound from the power supply
the keyboard is not powered on
and nothing else is coming on
Please help
I wish i could get one of those Gigabyte R9 280x :D
I Love Gigabyte and Corsair! ;D
"Powered by Corsair", "Overclocked by Gigabyte"
The anus coin will be the next big craze so guys start investing in hardware now because we will experience a revolution.
Well why not invest in the coin directly if it's truly the next big craze? What's the point in mining it?
Ulpian Heritor yes
U need to be thicc-er
I hope no one is using GPU's to mine bitcoins that would be just sad. You can pay like 60 bucks to get a miner that runs 40 gigahahes. compared to what one of those gpu's can make which is like 300 megahashes for each GPU. This setup would be good for maybe DogeCoin on LiteCoin mining which relies in scrypt computing.
That's why he said it wasn't for Bitcoin.
Mr Rex I'm guessing that is why his video title says, "BitCoin/LiteCoin Mining Rig..."?
theskeletonboi Yup. He mentioned it wasn't so much for Bitcoin as it was for LiteCoin
Mr Rex I watched the video... I am referring to the misleading title.
No one mines for Bitcoin anymore. Litecoin ftw
Wouldn't an amd apu be the best option for the " cpu " because of its graphics cores?
Linus quick question. 1 card. same model. but 2gb vs 4gb of ram. will it affect mining performance?And is it worth the extra 40-60$? (specifically r9 270x windforce card for gaming/mining on single screen)
no, not for that card
What is this bitcoin mining and where can you download the software to do so.
Are these rigs good for rendering in Blender Cycles also?
where can I get the case from ?
how much gh/S?
Jochen Boesmans so around 4,5gh/s?
TheForgoten100 4.5 Mh/s...
Althrough, it should be much more...
TheForgoten100 scrypt is 4.5MH/s
RankUpGamers so you're better of with them USB miners that cost like 20$
TheForgoten100 ASIC USB miners DON'T WORK IN SCRYPT
so, can you tell me the approx. price for that monster? and since this video is already 2years old, maybe there is new (better) options? can you share if you know?
And this video was really cool! thank you man. have a nice day
Does anyone of you know which PCIe risers were used in this rig?
When will this be available?
what's the diffrent on litecoin and bitcoin
OMG you mine from 2014 WTF nice ;)
We need an updated version of this
Can you please tell me how to run one system with 2 power supplies. I want to build a system with 6 x r9 270. Each card running roughly 225watts, for a total of 1350 watts. I plan on buying 2 x 80plus gold 750w power supplies. also, that amount of power sufficient for the entire system?
Thank you in advance.
how much litecoins you have obtained with this rig?