Thank you for sharing the Keith Canteen kit in the Boundless Voyage mess kit. I have been wondering about that for months if not years. I have been using the Russian VDV paratrooper 3piece mess kit for years and wanted to upgrade from the aluminium. I like the shape of the Keith canteen shape but ended up buying the new (to me) Boundless Voyage 3 piece nesting canteen (A Blockier shape)
Thanks very much for the video! I don't want to spend $150 for a Keith titanium Canteen Mess Kit. I also have the Pathfinder kit. I will take the extra weight of my Nalgene canteen to nest into the Boundless Voyage. Much appreciated!
With the titanium I went for the round pots for the simple fact I've used canteen cups and mess kits since I was a kid, thought I'd try something slightly different. The titanium canteen cup is tempting though, I like my Nalgene Oasis canteens too and it makes a nice compact kit.
Thanks for sharing. Queation from my side, does the stove from the Pathfinder stainless steel set fits on the Heavy Cover canteen set? Thanks in advance
Update: Got the Boundless Voyage Titanium Canteen Cooking Set with the extra nesting 1.1L drinking canteen. I suspect that if you added the Canteen Mess Kit upside down it would nest perfectly as the bottom piece does.. The canteen is a loose fit so when you pull the canteen ut of the pouch the pot/cup doesn't come with it. Going to make a small paracord retention strap so it comes with it
I discovered all this for myself about a month ago when I bought one of these, I was surprised when I realised that for once the Chinese manufacturer had not 'improved' upon the item and produced it to GI size 950ml not 1100ml (Keith)
So when backpacking, do You like to clip your canteen kit to your backpack or wear on a belt? I did purchase that Helikon-Tex Essential kit bag for reason its side pouches. Besides fitting my Heavy Cover TI canteen kit... I've not yet loaded down for a few mile hike up at gramp's old digs/farm with river running through. It was mostly Jeep or lifted golf car aided. Riding I miss some tinder/fatwood op. to try ideas I'm sure..even take the long way to fish, blah blah blah. ~ Pretty much an all shoulders or shoulders and hips question Mr BYO.
With the Essential Kit Bag I shoulder carry it when I am on a short day hikes and not carrying a lot of gear. If I am out for a full day and carrying a larger backpack, I will strap or clip it to the back of the pack or set it inside the pack on the top. I already have a small canteen carry option on the waist belt of my pack.
So before it costs me £50, can you put the large mug on top of the Keith? So you have the Keith on the bottom and the boundless on the top? Just an idea.....
Just tested this out and the Boundless Voyage will partially fit on the top. It is an extremely snug fit. A better solution is to put the Boundless Voyage on the bottom of the Kieth Canteen and put the Kieth Cup on top. It fits better and makes a more compact setup. Great question.
had another thought you can use this like a smaller version of the Swedish/East/West German mess kits i.e. boiling water in the larger mug wether you are preparing noodles or rice or pasta, or just boiling up for a brew, you sit the small mug in the top of the large one then anything you want to heat through like small can of meat etc place it in small mug and the heat from your water will do it for you. also if anyone is interested Boundless Voyage have broight out another variation ....it contains 1) a GI style size titanium canteen cup 2) a lid for the cup 3) a titanium canteen cup stand/cooker and someone has thought about this unlike the aluminium versions which have no lip and are usually a tight enough fit to jam on the cup after heating this titanium version has a turned over lip to support the cup, hope this helps, sorry for being a bit long winded atb Bill
I have the titanium cup stand/cooker on order and should get it in the next couple of days. Expect a video of that setup and how it works with the two cup setup later this week.
Good vid. Just found you and sub'd. You kind of passed over the Pathfinder stove...which I love... will it nest in any way with the boundless set and PF canteen? I love the 39oz. capacity and the widest mouth around. And a question. I love military packs but finding them now to be too heavy. Looking for a med. price pack having both waterbottle side pockets and molle strips....4 wide. Don't care for multiple pockets. One big deep cavity would work. With molle 30 - 40 ltrs... w/limited molle up to 40 ltrs. Thanks.
Unfortunately the Pathfinder canteen stove will not fit on the outside of these canteen cups and if you try to nest them on top (like you can with the Kieth Titanium Canteen or Nalgene Oasis) it will not fit either since the Pathfinder Canteen has a wider top. I do love the Pathfinder Canteen size as well, but unfortunately there isn’t really any standardization of canteen sizes. I just got the Boundless Voyage titanium canteen pot with stove set so stay tuned for a video looking at what it has to offer and what canteens work with it.
I don't know what med. price is really, but these guys seem to have some nice gear. www.helikon-tex.com/en_usd/bags-packs/backpacks.html I got their Essentials canteen kit bag for my Keith Titanium canteen because cheaper than the ...Mother's kit bag was it?, and wanted a top to flap over my canteen. I'm happy with it, and fairly rugged/built well(Cordura) Keith canteen main area with two side pouches, one in front under flap, etc. It took a bit to get over seas to Chicago area, but came fine and dandy condition.
My bad, I read through comments before watching the vid. (I wrote of the same canteen kit bag shown in vid) There's vids around for that kit bag ~ Molle on the backside, metal drain hole in bottom..molle set up can even be utilized to slide through a camp axe/hatchet with use of blade hood. As said it's put together well, and they seem they want to remain viable in a very competitive market...then again I've not really the experience some may have. hmm, my backpack is a 20 year old LL Bean jobbie my sis bought me. tips me hat ~
Greav video. weird theres not meny videos on it. 1, you dident show enythign about the pauch it come in. ? i just got the set. and think the pouch is ok. btu hard to get the cops out. 2. and dident show if the real flask also fit the E&E. or the messkit puch. btu i asume beocuse it does. love helikon..
I agree on the bag it comes with, it can be difficult to get the cups out. And yes the red oasis canteen does fit with the cups in the E&E pouch. That is the exact setup I use these cups with. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@BarnYardOutdoors is oasis taller or somehtign ? i dont have one. i will use the Ti one as i have it. hehe but does the hole Ti set fit the E&E pouch ?
Unfortunately I no longer have the Crusader canteen. Hopefully some of my viewers will know. I will post this question on some FB groups I am in and let you know if I hear if anyone knows.
Just no chance mate, no chance at all, I can tell just by looking at it. I had to use one of them for 5 years in a job when I was younger so I'm very very familiar with it. It would need to be bigger than the Osprey Cup to fit the canteen in and the Osprey Cup is humungous. Btw BCB don't make them, they're made by Osprey.
Hey. I just stumbled upon your site. Do you live close to the Lake of the Ozark’s? I live between Summersville and Mountain View, just north of the Jack’s Fork River. Be blessed. John
I live in Nebraska, but get down to Lake of the Ozark’s as much as I can during the Spring and Summer. I spent a lot of time exploring a couple parks last summer. Missouri has some beautiful places to hike.
@@BarnYardOutdoors Thanks so much. I’ve got the Keith Titanium set but there are times when I prefer a plastic bottle. I’ve been thinking about getting the Nalgene Oasis to pair with the Keith Titanium canteen up.
I'm looking for a grill. The model half grill and half disch. (Boundless vovage - mapleoutdoor) So.. what is the grade of this titanium? It is a good quality? Do you know the real composition of this titanium? Thank u
I not 100 percent sure what the grade of the titanium is, but from what I have seen based on some internet research is that Boundless Voyage products are 99.8% titanium. The cook set stove is pretty thin (about 2 millimeters) so there is some flex in the product. I would suspect with the griddle / grill combo you might be limited on the weight of the pot and food you place on it but it should be fine for single meals or small groups items. I hope this helps with your decision and thanks for the comment.
I really like having a two cooking capable containers with my canteen set. I like having a container for a hot brew and a second to make a warm snack or just to use as a bowl. I am currently have it with a Nalgene Oasis bottle and in a Helikon Tex E & E pouch. I haven’t had a chance to test that setup on the trail yet, but i am taking it on a camping trip this week and plan on using it for my favorite fall camping evening brew, apple cider with a shot of cinnamon whiskey.
Not that I am aware of. I believe the color difference is simply due to a difference in the titanium quality. Which is pretty good, same type as Toaks brand uses I believe. They are similar in color to Toaks and Keith titanium products.
I own a set and my impression is it's indeed a coating layer around them. It rubs off on some contact spots between cup and pot. And it worries me what it consist of, it it does harm? Glad to hear any infos on it in case someone has them. The few points of criticism I have about the cooking set are a) the (apparent) coating, b) some (few) sharp edged spots where your mouth goes, c) when used in combination with a drinking bottle, the lid is problematic to store in most standard field bottle carrier bags, as it is too broad to sink to the very bottom of the bag.
@@daadadda that what I was afraid of. Should I keep the grill or just toss it off?. Not sure why anyone tried to kickstart these stuff with better quality than these unknown manufacturers
I just don't get why you all like those cups. They may be ok to put a packet in but you can do that with most pots. Those cups are awful to drink from, like drinking from an old pan, and the large surface area mean the contents go cold quicker. Plus they are bulky ! I can only assume its for nostalgic reasons.
That’s a tough question. I would have to say, just from the flexibility of having two cooking containers and the ability to hang the pots over a fire, I prefer the Boundless Voyage set.
Am i the only one who HATE that whoever makes titanium cookpots always have that indentation in the bottom? I know it is supposed to help with fuel efficiency, but how am i supposed to stir efficiently in the bottom with such a design? I never really tried to cook anything but water in such pots yet, but to me it seems like i my best bet for making freeze dried food is to just heat it up and let it sit and soak in a cozy, and hope its still warm when its finished soaking. There are some good choices for food where this will not be a problem, but i really dont like being limited in that way, and saving a tiny amount of fuel doesnt even begin to make up for this sacrifice.
Thank you for sharing the Keith Canteen kit in the Boundless Voyage mess kit. I have been wondering about that for months if not years. I have been using the Russian VDV paratrooper 3piece mess kit for years and wanted to upgrade from the aluminium.
I like the shape of the Keith canteen shape but ended up buying the new (to me) Boundless Voyage 3 piece nesting canteen (A Blockier shape)
Danke fürs vorstellen !
Ich habe zwar schon genug outdoor geschirr,aber das will ich auch noch haben !!
Liebe Grüße aus Österreich
Exactly the questions I wanted answered!
Thanks.
Thanks very much for the video! I don't want to spend $150 for a Keith titanium Canteen Mess Kit. I also have the Pathfinder kit. I will take the extra weight of my Nalgene canteen to nest into the Boundless Voyage. Much appreciated!
I'd pop that lid at the bottom of the pouch so under the the mess kit & canteen , less bulky and less clanking , nice set up
With the titanium I went for the round pots for the simple fact I've used canteen cups and mess kits since I was a kid, thought I'd try something slightly different. The titanium canteen cup is tempting though, I like my Nalgene Oasis canteens too and it makes a nice compact kit.
how have you liked round pots?
@@ShoahBiz Once you get used to packing them differently they're good.
Thanks for sharing. Queation from my side, does the stove from the Pathfinder stainless steel set fits on the Heavy Cover canteen set? Thanks in advance
All possible questions answered, thanks!
Update: Got the Boundless Voyage Titanium Canteen Cooking Set with the extra nesting 1.1L drinking canteen. I suspect that if you added the Canteen Mess Kit upside down it would nest perfectly as the bottom piece does.. The canteen is a loose fit so when you pull the canteen ut of the pouch the pot/cup doesn't come with it. Going to make a small paracord retention strap so it comes with it
I discovered all this for myself about a month ago when I bought one of these, I was surprised when I realised that for once the Chinese manufacturer had not 'improved' upon the item and produced it to GI size 950ml not 1100ml (Keith)
Thank you for this, I've been wondering about what fits what.
Niiice. Thanks for the thorough review.
Just what I wanted to know. Does a Nalgene bottle fit the mess tins. Great thank you
It fits perfectly and if you are a fan of the Nalgene Canteen bottle, it makes a great kit. Thanks for watching and the comment.
@@BarnYardOutdoors, тоесть к фляге Nalgene Oasis подходит этот титановый котелок?
Love mine for my day bag.... I guess I need a canteen now , lol
So when backpacking, do You like to clip your canteen kit to your backpack or wear on a belt?
I did purchase that Helikon-Tex Essential kit bag for reason its side pouches. Besides fitting my Heavy Cover TI canteen kit...
I've not yet loaded down for a few mile hike up at gramp's old digs/farm with river running through. It was mostly Jeep or lifted golf car aided. Riding I miss some tinder/fatwood op. to try ideas I'm sure..even take the long way to fish, blah blah blah.
~ Pretty much an all shoulders or shoulders and hips question Mr BYO.
With the Essential Kit Bag I shoulder carry it when I am on a short day hikes and not carrying a lot of gear. If I am out for a full day and carrying a larger backpack, I will strap or clip it to the back of the pack or set it inside the pack on the top. I already have a small canteen carry option on the waist belt of my pack.
Props! This was an incredibly helpful video!
Thank you.
Will a Standard GI ALUMINUM stove fit on the big cup and still have enough room to nest the small cup over it
So before it costs me £50, can you put the large mug on top of the Keith? So you have the Keith on the bottom and the boundless on the top? Just an idea.....
Just tested this out and the Boundless Voyage will partially fit on the top. It is an extremely snug fit. A better solution is to put the Boundless Voyage on the bottom of the Kieth Canteen and put the Kieth Cup on top. It fits better and makes a more compact setup. Great question.
@@BarnYardOutdoors Wow! you are faster than Amazon support :-) thanks for the response, you may have just cost me £50.
Stay well
The question I have on these boundless voyage canteen cups, is will the Pathfinder steel canteen stove nest over the bottom of them?
Excellent video, thanks for sharing!!!
the size with Boundless Voyage is propper to a Hellikon essential kit bag?
had another thought you can use this like a smaller version of the Swedish/East/West German mess kits i.e. boiling water in the larger mug wether you are preparing noodles or rice or pasta, or just boiling up for a brew, you sit the small mug in the top of the large one then anything you want to heat through like small can of meat etc place it in small mug and the heat from your water will do it for you.
also if anyone is interested Boundless Voyage have broight out another variation ....it contains
1) a GI style size titanium canteen cup
2) a lid for the cup
3) a titanium canteen cup stand/cooker and someone has thought about this unlike the aluminium versions which have no lip and are usually a tight enough fit to jam on the cup after heating this titanium version has a turned over lip to support the cup, hope this helps, sorry for being a bit long winded atb Bill
I have the titanium cup stand/cooker on order and should get it in the next couple of days. Expect a video of that setup and how it works with the two cup setup later this week.
Amazing idea & Titanium last's 4ever gotta ankle made of it as a DAV ! & it won't set off a metal detector etc !
Good review.
Thanks
Good vid. Just found you and sub'd. You kind of passed over the Pathfinder stove...which I love... will it nest in any way with the boundless set and PF canteen? I love the 39oz. capacity and the widest mouth around. And a question. I love military packs but finding them now to be too heavy. Looking for a med. price pack having both waterbottle side pockets and molle strips....4 wide. Don't care for multiple pockets. One big deep cavity would work. With molle 30 - 40 ltrs... w/limited molle up to 40 ltrs. Thanks.
Unfortunately the Pathfinder canteen stove will not fit on the outside of these canteen cups and if you try to nest them on top (like you can with the Kieth Titanium Canteen or Nalgene Oasis) it will not fit either since the Pathfinder Canteen has a wider top. I do love the Pathfinder Canteen size as well, but unfortunately there isn’t really any standardization of canteen sizes. I just got the Boundless Voyage titanium canteen pot with stove set so stay tuned for a video looking at what it has to offer and what canteens work with it.
I don't know what med. price is really, but these guys seem to have some nice gear. www.helikon-tex.com/en_usd/bags-packs/backpacks.html
I got their Essentials canteen kit bag for my Keith Titanium canteen because cheaper than the ...Mother's kit bag was it?, and wanted a top to flap over my canteen. I'm happy with it, and fairly rugged/built well(Cordura)
Keith canteen main area with two side pouches, one in front under flap, etc.
It took a bit to get over seas to Chicago area, but came fine and dandy condition.
My bad, I read through comments before watching the vid. (I wrote of the same canteen kit bag shown in vid)
There's vids around for that kit bag ~ Molle on the backside, metal drain hole in bottom..molle set up can even be utilized to slide through a camp axe/hatchet with use of blade hood.
As said it's put together well, and they seem they want to remain viable in a very competitive market...then again I've not really the experience some may have. hmm, my backpack is a 20 year old LL Bean jobbie my sis bought me.
tips me hat ~
Greav video.
weird theres not meny videos on it.
1, you dident show enythign about the pauch it come in. ? i just got the set. and think the pouch is ok. btu hard to get the cops out.
2. and dident show if the real flask also fit the E&E. or the messkit puch. btu i asume beocuse it does. love helikon..
I agree on the bag it comes with, it can be difficult to get the cups out. And yes the red oasis canteen does fit with the cups in the E&E pouch. That is the exact setup I use these cups with. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@BarnYardOutdoors is oasis taller or somehtign ? i dont have one. i will use the Ti one as i have it. hehe but does the hole Ti set fit the E&E pouch ?
The Oasis bottle is about 5 mm taller than the Keith Titanium Canteen.
have you tried to fit the BCB OSPREY canteen in the titanium set?
Unfortunately I no longer have the Crusader canteen. Hopefully some of my viewers will know. I will post this question on some FB groups I am in and let you know if I hear if anyone knows.
Just no chance mate, no chance at all, I can tell just by looking at it. I had to use one of them for 5 years in a job when I was younger so I'm very very familiar with it. It would need to be bigger than the Osprey Cup to fit the canteen in and the Osprey Cup is humungous. Btw BCB don't make them, they're made by Osprey.
Boundless voyage just added a titanium canteen for $80 on Amazon or the canteen and the two cups set for $140
I’ve been looking at that. It looks like to cup *might* be a different shape than the current cup set. I might have to order it and check it out.
I just ordered that one.
Boundless Voyage Titanium Military Canteen 1100 ML or 1.1 liter
$98 and $2.99 shipping
@@jimmyxvm6344 Where did you buy your kit if you don't mind my asking.?
Awesome informative video
Thanks 😊
Thank you!!!
Hey. I just stumbled upon your site. Do you live close to the Lake of the Ozark’s? I live between Summersville and Mountain View, just north of the Jack’s Fork River. Be blessed. John
I live in Nebraska, but get down to Lake of the Ozark’s as much as I can during the Spring and Summer. I spent a lot of time exploring a couple parks last summer. Missouri has some beautiful places to hike.
Nice video thanks
Does the Nalgene Oasis bottle fit in the Keith Titanium canteen cup?
Yes it does. It is a snug fit so the cup needs to be pulled off the canteen.
@@BarnYardOutdoors Thanks so much. I’ve got the Keith Titanium set but there are times when I prefer a plastic bottle. I’ve been thinking about getting the Nalgene Oasis to pair with the Keith Titanium canteen up.
I'm looking for a grill. The model half grill and half disch. (Boundless vovage - mapleoutdoor)
So.. what is the grade of this titanium?
It is a good quality? Do you know the real composition of this titanium?
Thank u
I not 100 percent sure what the grade of the titanium is, but from what I have seen based on some internet research is that Boundless Voyage products are 99.8% titanium. The cook set stove is pretty thin (about 2 millimeters) so there is some flex in the product. I would suspect with the griddle / grill combo you might be limited on the weight of the pot and food you place on it but it should be fine for single meals or small groups items.
I hope this helps with your decision and thanks for the comment.
How are you loving this?
I really like having a two cooking capable containers with my canteen set. I like having a container for a hot brew and a second to make a warm snack or just to use as a bowl. I am currently have it with a Nalgene Oasis bottle and in a Helikon Tex E & E pouch. I haven’t had a chance to test that setup on the trail yet, but i am taking it on a camping trip this week and plan on using it for my favorite fall camping evening brew, apple cider with a shot of cinnamon whiskey.
Thanks
Are they coated? Their color is very different than snow peak items
Not that I am aware of. I believe the color difference is simply due to a difference in the titanium quality. Which is pretty good, same type as Toaks brand uses I believe. They are similar in color to Toaks and Keith titanium products.
I own a set and my impression is it's indeed a coating layer around them. It rubs off on some contact spots between cup and pot. And it worries me what it consist of, it it does harm? Glad to hear any infos on it in case someone has them. The few points of criticism I have about the cooking set are a) the (apparent) coating, b) some (few) sharp edged spots where your mouth goes, c) when used in combination with a drinking bottle, the lid is problematic to store in most standard field bottle carrier bags, as it is too broad to sink to the very bottom of the bag.
@@daadadda that what I was afraid of. Should I keep the grill or just toss it off?. Not sure why anyone tried to kickstart these stuff with better quality than these unknown manufacturers
I just don't get why you all like those cups. They may be ok to put a packet in but you can do that with most pots. Those cups are awful to drink from, like drinking from an old pan, and the large surface area mean the contents go cold quicker. Plus they are bulky ! I can only assume its for nostalgic reasons.
I bought all that stuff at an Army Surplus store. Government Issue is a lot cheaper.
Which do you prefer the Keith Ti or the Boundless Voyage mess kit?
That’s a tough question. I would have to say, just from the flexibility of having two cooking containers and the ability to hang the pots over a fire, I prefer the Boundless Voyage set.
Definitely would ditch the Pathfinder canteen
It frustrated me that you didnt put the lid first upside down then the cup/canteen lol
LOL. I hate having to dig out the lid from the bottom. I usually slide it in on the side.
Understandable
Am i the only one who HATE that whoever makes titanium cookpots always have that indentation in the bottom? I know it is supposed to help with fuel efficiency, but how am i supposed to stir efficiently in the bottom with such a design? I never really tried to cook anything but water in such pots yet, but to me it seems like i my best bet for making freeze dried food is to just heat it up and let it sit and soak in a cozy, and hope its still warm when its finished soaking. There are some good choices for food where this will not be a problem, but i really dont like being limited in that way, and saving a tiny amount of fuel doesnt even begin to make up for this sacrifice.
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It's not a canteen mess kit if it doesn't come with a canteen.
Pathfinder way too heavy