(1) Baptist History - Swiss Anabaptists
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He is wrong on Erasmus too.
Great teaching. Much needed. Thanks
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OMG Tyndall was not the greatest translator....laughable.
Watching from Garo Baptist Convention, Tura, Meghalaya, India
Thank you for posting this lecture to TH-cam. I have loved history my entire life, having a BS in History. I have never heard this story. Like most, I hear “Anabaptist,” I think of John of Leyden and Munster…nothing of the love and self-sacrifice of the Anabaptists. Thank you…onto the English Baptists of the 17th Century.
His opinion on infant baptism is not correct.
Awesome
How can anyone come to conclude that by reading just the new testament one can understand the church , the true church have been established by Jesus long before the new testament was compiled and cannonised by catholic Bishops in 382 AD in Rome.
The Landmark Baptist Bride believer
This was a very weak presentation about the origins of Anabaptists, and of the founders of the Radical Reformation in 1525, who called themselves Swiss Brethren, the forerunners of all modern Anabaptist groups, and by implication, all denominations that teach adult baptism, separate of church and state, and Christian distinctiveness.
Also a major error was bringing up Balthazar Hubmaier, who may have been part of the Swiss Brethren movement in 1525, but in 1526 he recanted his belief against infant baptism, thus becoming an apostate and ceased to be part of the Swiss Brethren and the Anabaptist movement as we know it.
There is no Anabaptist group that can trace their origins back to Hubmaier, in the way the Mennonites can trace their origins back to a member of the Swiss Brethren, Menno Simons, the Hutterites to Jacob Hutter, and the Amish to Jacob Amon.
Anabaptist type denominations that developed later, that are not directly descendants of the Swiss Brethren, have their own founding fathers, and to my knowledge, none base their beliefs or teachings on anything from Hubmaier. Non Anabaptists may call Hubmaier an Anabaptist, but the Anabaptists themselves do not.
The most important and influential person in the Anabaptists faith to come out of the Swiss Brethren movement, is without a doubt Menno Simons.
There would be no Baptist or Congregational denominations today if not for Menno Simons, for it is his followers that the English escaping religious persecution encountered in Holland in the early 1600's.
The followers of Jacob Hutter were in eastern Europe and the ancestors of the Amish in Switzerland.
Sadly for protestantism, _Sola Scriptura_ theology is also highly apprehensible when reading the Early Church fathers, especially those directly taught by the apostles.
Before 300 AD~, Church Fathers such as Ignatius, Tertullians, Irenaeus, Clement of Rome, Origen, etc, all showed clearly how the Church founded by Christ believed in the true presence in the Eucharist, Apostolic succession, infant baptism, confession, primacy of a Bishop over all churches, etc.
We can easily conclude by just looking at Baptist churches (and protestant churches in general) that they left these beliefs behind.
Therefore, they cannot be associated with the Early Church at all... it doesn't matter how much they "wish" for the opposite... it's there in the Fathers, the ones who eventually canonized the Bible itself for the Church. In the end, no matter who were part of the Catholic Church, or what temporary "crisis" she was in, she was always the One True Church to begin with, and leaving her instead of healing her was the mistake protestants made... as they then became heretics and slowly drifted away in their separation from the actual Bride of Christ.
Start reading.
When Jesus comes back, it might be too late.
Where the church fathers depart from the scriptures, the baptists depart from the church fathers!
All you have to do is read the church fathers and compare their works to the scriptures to know that they have indeed parted from the scriptures. The fathers were men with varied opinions that were not necessarily biblical or true. I do not believe in the 'trail of blood' and tend to believe that the baptists started in England in the 17th century personally. That does not mean that there were other groups that were faithful to God before the Baptists.
Which is why it is our duty as Christians to study the scriptures to show ourselves approved and discern correct doctrine rather than just take the experience of men though they be church fathers. This is the heart of the Baptist movement.
It seems orthodox Christianity kept the torch of the early fathers, not the Catholics
When was this apostollic succesion affirmed in church history?