I read that book in college. It reinforced Skinner to write more ridiculous books. Most do not know Skinner started out wanting to be a writer but had no success in it.
@@dolam Life experience has taught me that we are more than stimulus-response creatures. I too, in my college days, was taken by thinkers like Skinner, Watson, Thorndike and David Hume.
the cell phones are a Skinner box. We already live under the control of social networks, advertising, etc. at least Skinner demonstrated that by knowing the principles of learning and the laws of our behavior we can decide and live with some freedom and dignity.
@@BitchBasss My children were part of experiments about 20 years ago. Kind of recent. The experiments were WAY less harmful. This child in a box, being trained as you would an animal, is much more harmful. In addition, what was specifically gained? This is the response of ONE child, and the learned behavior would be unlearned (extinction) fairly quickly.
The mother actually donated the kid to science and research. He was eventually allowed to go to college and he took a liking to computers. The keys and buttons reminded him of the only mom he ever knew - the Skinner box. That man was Mark Zuckerberg. 👁️👄👁️
People don’t understand how hard it is to record child psychology as these things make us in adults If you don’t know why your emotions I am coming from you won’t know where you are going
But they taught him about the machine and how it works beforehand sooo not too interesting. And his responses did not vary, he just kept asking over and over until he got a snack. He didn't change at all. He just gave up when it took too long to get a snack. but when he got a snack he would attempt again to get snacks quickly and would over push the lever. He just wanted lots of snacks. He didn't learn how to be patient from this. failed experiment.
What kind of parent would allow this? Just because this was an experiment doesn’t mean it wouldn’t do psychological harm. The deliberate agitation of this little toddler is indefensible.
"Agitating" a toddler does not do psychological harm. Otherwise, we should just get rid of bed time, bath time, let them eat candy for dinner, never potty train, let them live free from every rule and discipline... because that agitates them.
@@motleyminded85 I don’t agree, bath time etc is done, if the parents are nurturing, with care and love and has a positive purpose. There are also caregivers present to soothe the child and make comforting sounds. Same with not letting a child have sweets, we explain our actions with thought for the child’s well-being. And we are there during the child’s agitation. This was outright unnecessary cruelty with absolutely no point for the child. Shut in pens like an animals. These children were used in the most despicable way for research purposes. I don’t see how anyone can watch this and think it’s ok. Read Hungry Ghosts by Gabor Mate to see what damage is done by this kind of treatment of children. And as my comment indicates, I was saying the DELIBERATE agitation of THIS child was indefensible - I did not generalise.
@@iyahperez08 because Pavlov was researching conditioning (and named the term) before Skinner and Pavlov's studies of conditioned response in dogs had been in part what influenced Skinner to research conditioning as a method of learning in humans.
Wow, I'm here as a dog trainer cause I had a fellow trainer talking up bf skinner and saying how great he was... I use operant conditioning, but i never heard of bf skinner till now, I didnt realize he was treating literal babies as animals in a cage, I also didn't realize he was teaching that we don't have God given free will, and that we basically have no more value than a dog or a rat, and while i think there was some good that came out of this, his beliefes outside of operant conditioning though are disgusting... typical science weirdos and their theories.. always going after the kids... smh 🤦♀️
This would have been a great inspiration for making the interactive toys of today, Don't you think? Not only the kids play with those toys, they also get the benefit of learning obedience.
I think it would create immediate-gratification-obsessed people who are more likely to tolerate abusive and unfulfilling situations and relationships. It would create a generation that accepts too much crap for too little payoff. We do that badly enough already. Being obedient is not the best or most important thing a child can be.
Obedience to what or whom though? Blind obedience can be very dangerous - we saw very recently during the plandemic how quickly people turned on others & cast them out of society just because they questioned or resisted random, insane directives like standing 6 feet apart or mask on while walking in a restaurant/mask off while sitting. Critical thinking skills are more important for kids to learn.
I would expect to see this type of training in Nazi German. We now know how simplistic a form of understanding human psychology this experiment tries to display.
Did we watch the same video? There are kids getting a bunch of treats for tapping a button...if that's what the Nazis were doing, there wouldn't be...u know.
@@BitchBasss This tries to boil all human understanding to experience. I feel sorry for those who think this is all there is to human life and understanding.
Why am I watching this it's 3am
Wow! It's 2 am here.
4am
5:54 Am
347 am
Because you use to enjoy playing with your shit as a child.
I am waiting for the child to knock down the dispenser box to get it all at once!
"Beyond Freedom and Dignity", a book title by Skinner...he wasn't exaggerating
I read that book in college. It reinforced Skinner to write more ridiculous books. Most do not know Skinner started out wanting to be a writer but had no success in it.
@@Bradydog-in7ut Why do you call the book ridiculous? I am a Behavioral Psychologist and think Skinner was incredibly insightful.
@@dolam Life experience has taught me that we are more than stimulus-response creatures. I too, in my college days, was taken by thinkers like Skinner, Watson, Thorndike and David Hume.
the cell phones are a Skinner box. We already live under the control of social networks, advertising, etc. at least Skinner demonstrated that by knowing the principles of learning and the laws of our behavior we can decide and live with some freedom and dignity.
I really want to know what the snack is!
Looks like peanut flips 5:00.
crack
Rabbit pellets
Me, too!
Probably solidified nectar of the gods🤗.
So what trained the trainers to do this?
Cash.
They used a child as a guinea pig. Good old times.
They gave a kid tons of treats and read their behavior...what is wrong with that exactly? I wish today's experiments would be this harmless.
@@BitchBasss My children were part of experiments about 20 years ago. Kind of recent. The experiments were WAY less harmful. This child in a box, being trained as you would an animal, is much more harmful.
In addition, what was specifically gained? This is the response of ONE child, and the learned behavior would be unlearned (extinction) fairly quickly.
And if the food is drugged aka contains msg for example, then you have a closed circuit containing the perfect consumer.
*B-I-N-G-O*
thank you
Msg is fine! You sound like a hysteric!
Msg isn't a drug. Naturally occurring.
I'm 45. My toddler self would have done climbed out
This is how food companies got us addicted to garbage
Nah... it was capitalism, greed and misinformation...not operant conditioning.
I hope his mother is there too or did they just leave him alone.
The mother actually donated the kid to science and research. He was eventually allowed to go to college and he took a liking to computers. The keys and buttons reminded him of the only mom he ever knew - the Skinner box.
That man was Mark Zuckerberg. 👁️👄👁️
People don’t understand how hard it is to record child psychology as these things make us in adults
If you don’t know why your emotions I am coming from you won’t know where you are going
I may not know why your emotions “I am coming from” but I do understand you were not positively reinforced in Language Arts class as a child.
@@Bradydog-in7ut I was drunk and voice typed with Siri
@@NORMZS8OMG🤭I am legit CRYING right now😂😂😂
You just made my whole a** year🤣🤣🤣🤣
(Disclaimer- my reply has absolutely ZERO to do with this video😆)
@@Bradydog-in7ut LMAO
@@NORMZS8 LMFAOOOOOO
This reminds me of the video of the rhesus monkeys pressing a lever for more and more cocaine... was also sickening!
But they taught him about the machine and how it works beforehand sooo not too interesting. And his responses did not vary, he just kept asking over and over until he got a snack. He didn't change at all. He just gave up when it took too long to get a snack. but when he got a snack he would attempt again to get snacks quickly and would over push the lever. He just wanted lots of snacks. He didn't learn how to be patient from this. failed experiment.
They train crows this exact same way 😂
What kind of parent would allow this? Just because this was an experiment doesn’t mean it wouldn’t do psychological harm. The deliberate agitation of this little toddler is indefensible.
"Agitating" a toddler does not do psychological harm. Otherwise, we should just get rid of bed time, bath time, let them eat candy for dinner, never potty train, let them live free from every rule and discipline... because that agitates them.
@@motleyminded85 I don’t agree, bath time etc is done, if the parents are nurturing, with care and love and has a positive purpose. There are also caregivers present to soothe the child and make comforting sounds. Same with not letting a child have sweets, we explain our actions with thought for the child’s well-being. And we are there during the child’s agitation. This was outright unnecessary cruelty with absolutely no point for the child. Shut in pens like an animals. These children were used in the most despicable way for research purposes. I don’t see how anyone can watch this and think it’s ok. Read Hungry Ghosts by Gabor Mate to see what damage is done by this kind of treatment of children. And as my comment indicates, I was saying the DELIBERATE agitation of THIS child was indefensible - I did not generalise.
@@RainbowLane exactly
What kind of parents would do this? All of them what do you think school is?
Come on the child doesn`t matter. the experiment is more important
Where does this video come from ?
Pavlov would'a been so proud ... ;) poor kid.
Right? 😆
Why Pavlov if it was B.F. Skinner who invented the box with the goal to perform conditioning?
@@iyahperez08 because Pavlov was researching conditioning (and named the term) before Skinner and Pavlov's studies of conditioned response in dogs had been in part what influenced Skinner to research conditioning as a method of learning in humans.
@@AnnieNYC1 thank you!
@@AnnieNYC1 Pavlov did classical conditioning; this is operant, and quite different
12 sec wait time must be torture for little children let alone for today’s “adults” 😅😅
🤣🤣 The reality in that sentence is a scary truth😳
This is why boomers broke all the boxes. ✌
I’m a boomer and I think you’re right!
They created the boxes.
1960s that encourages gambling
Love it ❤❤❤
Rod Serling was an odd tot.
MONSTERS IN HELL RUN THIS UNEMTIONAL HORROR.
poor kid...
I AGREE
8:16 this is stressful xD
they should have shaped it by gradually increasing the time >.
this is how the supermarkets sell us trash today ... Amazing BF Skinner
Wow, I'm here as a dog trainer cause I had a fellow trainer talking up bf skinner and saying how great he was... I use operant conditioning, but i never heard of bf skinner till now, I didnt realize he was treating literal babies as animals in a cage, I also didn't realize he was teaching that we don't have God given free will, and that we basically have no more value than a dog or a rat, and while i think there was some good that came out of this, his beliefes outside of operant conditioning though are disgusting... typical science weirdos and their theories.. always going after the kids... smh 🤦♀️
There’s actually very little free will. We’re mostly conditioned.
This would have been a great inspiration for making the interactive toys of today, Don't you think? Not only the kids play with those toys, they also get the benefit of learning obedience.
I think it would create immediate-gratification-obsessed people who are more likely to tolerate abusive and unfulfilling situations and relationships. It would create a generation that accepts too much crap for too little payoff. We do that badly enough already. Being obedient is not the best or most important thing a child can be.
It is called smart phone... apps are the cookies
Obedience to what or whom though? Blind obedience can be very dangerous - we saw very recently during the plandemic how quickly people turned on others & cast them out of society just because they questioned or resisted random, insane directives like standing 6 feet apart or mask on while walking in a restaurant/mask off while sitting. Critical thinking skills are more important for kids to learn.
This is used to make games addictive.
Those who know 💀
Vault Tec is real.
Maybe in an institute,meaning he has no parents.
HAHAHA little slot machine 😆
No candy 🍬
I would expect to see this type of training in Nazi German. We now know how simplistic a form of understanding human psychology this experiment tries to display.
Did we watch the same video? There are kids getting a bunch of treats for tapping a button...if that's what the Nazis were doing, there wouldn't be...u know.
@@BitchBasss This tries to boil all human understanding to experience. I feel sorry for those who think this is all there is to human life and understanding.
@Bradydog-in7ut YES THANK YOU!!! I AGREE!
oh good. teaching toddlers addiction. FOR SCIENCE.
TELL ME THEY DIDNT PUT A BABY IN A SKINNER BOX OMFG
Alcatrazzz
ATTICA!!!
@@Gorboduc this reference made my day.
Child now has diabetes
Trabajo-me pagan 😁
TELL ME THEY DIDNT PUT A BABY IN A SKINNER BOX OMFG
Legend has it, he is still there….