She has three oms because this Vajrayogini is in combination with the other two lineages of Vajrayogini. Fundamental. She's a synthesis of all three. You might want to look elsewhere for accurate information regarding this practice.
Chinnamasta as different from Vajrayogino, however, look at them more as concepts, and there can be similarities in iconography because the underlying essence is Buddha Nature
They are not the same. There are so many forms as various as people with different sets of perception. They appear according to the followers mental capacity. Buddhist and hindu approach is completely different even when they pray to the same diety. For Buddhist, she represents emptiness and no self, which Hindus have no place in their beliefs. Atman and creater god is the main core belief of Hindus. Vajrayogini is an emation of Tara. 21 form of Tara is very popular with Tibetans where as same Tara apperars in different form in indian belief system. She is well know in West bengal and adjoining areas.
Wonderful discussion and stories, very enjoyable! I wanted to know if it is permissible/acceptable to recite the Three Om Mantra of Vajrayogini without receiving any initiation? Thank you.
Yes. You will need to receive initiation in order to practice the mantra. Without this initiation your recitations won't attain accomplishment. I don't say this to be some kind of gatekeeper. But there are very specific interdependent connections that happen during a Vajrayogini initiation. These connections make it possible to connect with the deity.
@@whatsinaname7828 There's ways to connect with Vajrayogini without using the mantra. Devotional prayers and supplication etc. Mantra recitation is reserved for initiates.
@@Scoutediting I have no idea why he thought it was a good idea to recite this mantra. Generally one would receive a 2 day major empowerment and practice that before one would receive the Vajrayogini mandala initiation. My teacher the 41st Kyabje Sakya Trizin would never dicuss this practice in public and he's the main lineage holder of Naropas Vajrayogini cycle.
No, Shiva is not Chakrasambara. The story relates when Shiva took rudra form and started created havoc, Chakrasamvara appeared to tame him and turn his ways to peace for sentient beings.
I can't listen to this Fella mumbling away, I don't think he's got an ounce of clarity, yet alone mindfulness, and to top it all off this presentation is full of adverts, I'm outta her
Robert Thurman has been a preëminent western scholar of Tibetan Buddhism for decades, I'd say he knows his stuff. It is frustrating the recording quality isn't a little better.
@@BillSikes. I'm pretty sure that's why Richard tells the story of the cutting off of the head starting at about 34:26 and talks about confusion of map and territory. Don't know that Robert got the point though.
We may find our teacher in a cup of tea, or the dishes we wash at night, or while fighting forest fires, or just sitting. We may see our guru in a drunkard, or our abusive father, or the priest in our local temple. Our teachers can be anyone. We often measure teachers by how accessible their teachings are (whether _we_ understand _them_ ) But the old adage goes, *"when the student is ready, the teacher appears."* This is because our ability to derive dharma-understandings from somebody else is not completely dependent on the other person, but rather the openness of _our own_ mind. If you cannot derive meaningful lessons from his teachings, while many others so often do, then it may be that, in actuality, you are the one with a lack of clarity.
@@PedanticAntics I'm not seeking a guru or an enlightenment so speak for yourself and good luck finding your guru in a cup of tea or a drunkard, this is the biggest load of bollox I've ever heard, you no doubt heard it from the guy in this video 🤣🤣🤣
OM OM OM SARVA BUDDHA DAKINIYE VAJRA VARNANIYE VAJRA VAIROCANIYE HUM HUM HUM PHAT PHAT PHAT SVAHA!
🙏🙏🙏🙇♀️
Mahasiddhas with severed heads are the sisters Mekhala and Kankhala 33:56
She has three oms because this Vajrayogini is in combination with the other two lineages of Vajrayogini. Fundamental. She's a synthesis of all three. You might want to look elsewhere for accurate information regarding this practice.
Is there a transcription of the mantras for this lecture ? Namaste
Om Om Om Sarwa Buddhadakiniye Vajra Varnaniye Vajra Vairochaniye Hung Hung Hung Phat Phat Phat Soha
OM OM OM SARVA BUDDHA DAKINIYE VAJRA VARNANIYE VAJRA VAIROCANIYE HUM HUM HUM PHAT PHAT PHAT SVAHA
Great 👍
What does this mantra mean
Mother Goddess Shakti
We worship her as a chhinmasta in Hinduism
But the mantra is very different
Chinnamasta as different from Vajrayogino, however, look at them more as concepts, and there can be similarities in iconography because the underlying essence is Buddha Nature
@@nondescripthuman umhmm
They are not the same. There are so many forms as various as people with different sets of perception. They appear according to the followers mental capacity. Buddhist and hindu approach is completely different even when they pray to the same diety. For Buddhist, she represents emptiness and no self, which Hindus have no place in their beliefs. Atman and creater god is the main core belief of Hindus. Vajrayogini is an emation of Tara. 21 form of Tara is very popular with Tibetans where as same Tara apperars in different form in indian belief system. She is well know in West bengal and adjoining areas.
Its very evident that brahmins have copied from budhist..Shaivism was a belief originated much later after budhism..
What's the difference between Vajrayoghini and Vajravarahi?
Wonderful discussion and stories, very enjoyable! I wanted to know if it is permissible/acceptable to recite the Three Om Mantra of Vajrayogini without receiving any initiation?
Thank you.
In my humble opinion, im sure she will be happy with your intentions.
Yes. You will need to receive initiation in order to practice the mantra. Without this initiation your recitations won't attain accomplishment.
I don't say this to be some kind of gatekeeper. But there are very specific interdependent connections that happen during a Vajrayogini initiation. These connections make it possible to connect with the deity.
@@whatsinaname7828 There's ways to connect with Vajrayogini without using the mantra. Devotional prayers and supplication etc.
Mantra recitation is reserved for initiates.
@@EmptyRainbows Why is Bob teaching this mantra then? Does he have the authority to bestow initiation?
@@Scoutediting I have no idea why he thought it was a good idea to recite this mantra. Generally one would receive a 2 day major empowerment and practice that before one would receive the Vajrayogini mandala initiation. My teacher the 41st Kyabje Sakya Trizin would never dicuss this practice in public and he's the main lineage holder of Naropas Vajrayogini cycle.
Aum/om for the in breath
Boddicita for the outbreath
So is shiva chakrasamvara? How is the shiva story related to the subject of the talk?
No, Shiva is not Chakrasambara. The story relates when Shiva took rudra form and started created havoc, Chakrasamvara appeared to tame him and turn his ways to peace for sentient beings.
The black guy always end up saying vajradakiniye instead of vajravarnaniye, until Thurman slowed down.
Protect me from Wrong activities
The point of meditation is to learn how to think so wrong actions do not exist
Kali mata
What the hell is with the ads
I can't listen to this Fella mumbling away, I don't think he's got an ounce of clarity, yet alone mindfulness, and to top it all off this presentation is full of adverts, I'm outta her
Robert Thurman has been a preëminent western scholar of Tibetan Buddhism for decades, I'd say he knows his stuff. It is frustrating the recording quality isn't a little better.
@@bunnyblake3885 i dont care for titles or PhDs, he may be a scholar in Tibetern Buddhism, that doesn't mean he's realised or actualized any of it.
@@BillSikes. I'm pretty sure that's why Richard tells the story of the cutting off of the head starting at about 34:26 and talks about confusion of map and territory. Don't know that Robert got the point though.
We may find our teacher in a cup of tea, or the dishes we wash at night, or while fighting forest fires, or just sitting.
We may see our guru in a drunkard, or our abusive father, or the priest in our local temple. Our teachers can be anyone.
We often measure teachers by how accessible their teachings are (whether _we_ understand _them_ )
But the old adage goes, *"when the student is ready, the teacher appears."*
This is because our ability to derive dharma-understandings from somebody else is not completely dependent on the other person, but rather the openness of _our own_ mind.
If you cannot derive meaningful lessons from his teachings, while many others so often do, then it may be that, in actuality, you are the one with a lack of clarity.
@@PedanticAntics
I'm not seeking a guru or an enlightenment so speak for yourself and good luck finding your guru in a cup of tea or a drunkard, this is the biggest load of bollox I've ever heard, you no doubt heard it from the guy in this video 🤣🤣🤣
why cant you speak up clearly go to grammar school first
Full of errors
Om om om sarva buddha dakiniyé benza warnaniye benza bairotsaniyé hung hung phat phat soha
The black guy always end up saying vajradakiniye instead of vajravarnaniye, until Thurman slowed down.