28,000,000 were not all soldiers but 20,000,000 civilians murdered by nazis. Just in Minsk they wiped out 2/3 of the population and you should know this before showing your Nazi sympathy.
@@BearFlagRebel Not even that, Not even the nazi Einsatzgruppen, Not even the massacre of the POWs & of the population by other German forces. Such casualties could come by only because the Russians were fighting a 2-Front war : One in the front against Mustachio1 One in the rear against Mustachio2 The latter got the lion's share of the total. In the front they could defend themselves In the rear they couldn't.
The story how it's told with all the footage, diary's and music, almost makes you feel like you are there right now. You almost can feel the waste, carnage, and vicious fighting while the story is being told.
A friend of mine's grandfather was a German infantryman during the Seelow Heights battle. He told us the Soviet barrage was so terrible onto the German lines that he trembled for days afterwards. Hour after hour of bombing and katushya rockets followed by waves of tanks and men. All he and his fellow lansers could do is fire everything they had continuously then turn and run. The russians never seemed to end or stop.
And here is the explanation why Germany lost the war - the luck of available resources made a Germany's situation hopeless. Actually it was hopeless from the very beginning and explains why Stalin did not believe that Hitler would even try to attach USSR while having the war with UK at the same time.
I love your channel. I’ve been watching WW2 documentaries since I was a child. You have a lot of footage I’ve never seen before, especially the Stalingrad episode. Incredible images and footage.
Out of all my family on my dad's side, only one returned from the war out of the 9 or so members of my family that fought in the Red Army. On my mom's side, everyone who served in the US Army returned home
i feel the lack of good NCOs was crucial,many couldnt read and so anything other than mass attacks was way beyond them tactically and led to even more casualties
Thanks. The Eastern Front ww2 has so many unknowns.. and is still very unexplored and even less understood. This film helps spread light and knowledge.
May I suggest you read books authored by David Glantz. You will get a more than thorough understanding. They are all great books by the most respected author on the subject.
Yes. The Germans fighting spirit; organization and ruthlessness are an inspiration to men down through the ages The images of the SS in full dress uniform are mesmerizing No young man goes to bed dreaming of being the next Musk, Zuckerberg, Rothchild etc
Man for man means nothing in modern warfare. The Germans lost. They were crushed on the Eastern Front by an army that was larger and was capable sustaining enormous losses and yet keep fighting for almost five years. A foe that could produce 80,000 T-34 tanks. More and better field artillery. It had interior lines of supply and the Germans stupidly never concentrated on adequate logistics system to arm and feed their troops. The early victories in Europe with the exception of France were against second and third rate armies. Once they met a real opponent They were mauled and crushed. After the failure of Operation Blue the German Army was on the retreat until the final victory in Berlin. Modern warfare is about production and logistics. Not man for man. After the war a group of reporters asked Zhukov when he knew the German’s would lose the War in Russia. Without hesitation he said, “the day they invaded our country”.
@@johnciummo3299 Oh please, the Germans would have won if it wasn't for lend lease and Stalin begging his "capitalist enemies" to open a second front. The soviets were the biggest cowards in history who violated women and children after only gaining the advantage through sheer numbers and bending over for their ideological enemies (Britain and US).
I´m German, born ´79. One of my Grandfathers fight from ´41- ´mid ´44 eastern in Armouref SS-Div. till he lost both legs witch hat to that time cut of more times because of no Antibiotics WITHOUT Morphine- just "Moonshine". It´s very important to different betwen SS ; Waffen-SS ; SS-Polizei ; Einsatzgruppen. He told me Bastards was most of Einsatzgruppen and ESPECIALLY "Kettenhunde" (MP) which behave like Superman but most killing helpless without Weapons in the "Etappe" (Area between Germany and HKL (Frontline) why the fighting Units call them "Etappenhengste" and ALL Fighters in Waffem-SS and Wehrmacht hated and disrespect them! But like the "Politkommisare" redside they was able to kill the Squads by will without serious Consequences by say "Feigheit vor dem Feind" In Stalingrad for Example Paulus and the Organisationmembers of that Groups had allmost till End more than enough "zum Fressen" (Food) while the Fighters Eat their died Comrades. The Kettenhunde killed till End now not anymore following Soldiers to Blackmail them running nearly without food, Weapons or Ammo into Death "obwohl" they had before heard the Speech from Germany the whole Army Already Died. Today many Germans know Adolf learns like Anjelica Kazmierski to hate the REAL Germans at Tavistock Institute and loved like many of his faqr Left Socialists till end the "Bariloche" County in Patagonia like Hotel Eden!
Sir, that is a fable propagated by post-war German leadership. Intense and thorouth research by Dr. Geoffrey Megargee revealed that SS atrocities bled down into the ranks of the every day soldier. Of course, not every soldier but a significantly larger numbers than post war leadership would lead you to believe. "Letters to home" indicated justified wholesale slaughter of Soviet soldiers and civilians as "necessary for German victory of communism.
Alot of them still would have died against the Germans.... Nikita Khrushchev said in his memoirs that Stalin told him several times and others in private conversations that they Russia couldn't beat Germany one on one without the help of the Americans (lend-lease program)
That's just not true. Lend-lease didn't eventually take off until 43 by which time the Russians had already started pushing back the Germans and already won battle of Stalingrad. Most of lendlease were trucks and food. It was less than 10% of the equipments Soviets used during the war
By 1943 Germany was close to outproducing the union in number of kwaks, aircraft,u boats and heavy tanks. What crippled Germany was the terror bombing campaign
Germany relied heavily on oil from it's Axis allies and millions of Axis troops from other nations were able to provide manpower. The Soviet Union was not fighting just Germany nor would Germany have won without Axis support.
It wasn't the KGB who conducted the big purge. The KGB wasn't founded untill 1954. The predecesor of the KGB was the NKVD. Thats quite the blunder in my opinion.
@@mbompenza7082 They would be knocking on your door to get you ready for the front lines son, or they will kick it down and rough you up before you get sent to the front lines but its up to you how you want to go.
It's crazy to think even before WW2 and 25+ million casualties they suffered, the Russians also had a revolution and a civil war. They experienced tremendous change and tremendous suffering, but I believe it helped make them incredibly tough.
@@historyatwar My younger uncle lived in USSR as a student in 1970s.. he studied at Leningrad.. once he said Russia was originally an earthworm in sixteenth century before peter the great.. then she gradually got stong and slowly over a period of centuries turned into an anaconda.. Russians are no doubt toughest people of earth.. when we study the Russian revolution and era of Stalin one get stunned...we have seen it's struggle of 1990s after break down of Soviet union.. just amazing..
After the German Invasion, Rokossovsky was at a STAVKA meeting and Stalin looked down the table and says - haven't seen you for a while, where've you been? In the GULAG, Comrade Stalin, was the reply. Really? - But you're back now eh? .......!!!
Made up by someone who doesn't know that GULag is the abbreviation of the Main Administration of Corrective Labour Camps. As such it was not used to refer to the camps were prisoners served.
@asullivan4047 Short duration in a camp? He was there for 2-3 years, reinstated around 1940. Another reason why the anecdote is fake is that he had already been back for at least a year by the time of the invasion and the creation of the Stavka. Short duration after? No. He was one of the most important generals and Front commanders, as well as participating in the planning of several major offensives (along with Zhukov, Vasilevsky, Vatutin, Koniev and Antonov). He was promoted to Marshal in 1944 after having a significant role in planning and executing Operation Bagration (which destroyed the German Army Group Centre and advanced about 500 km on a 2,000 km front in 2 months. After the war, he became the Polish Minister of Defense.
The Red Army did not suffer 28 million casualties. The USSR suffered 28 million casualties. In Belarus alone, more than 10,000 villages were destroyed by the Germans and their inhabitants murdered.
That's not true. The figures were hidden from the Soviet people as it was thought beyond traumatic what it cost in terms of soldiers to defeat the Nazis. When the USSR fell in 1990 the archives were opened and the true death toll was seen for the first time. It was 20 million more than the official records showed. Even then it was deemed too sensitive to actually reveal how many died. Those archives were closed and put away. Sorry I can't cite sources but I have read that in reliable historic publications.
By their own admission soviet deaths approached 28 million in ww2. This of course includes the millions of pows and civilians including jews who were deliberately murdered by the invaders.
@@pieterwillembotha6719 POSITIVE/ THE STATS HAVE BEEN COVERED BY/ MANY MILITARY W.W.2 HISTORY AUTHORAITIES/ RESEARCHERS , AUTHORS etc. This Guy is a U TUBE AMATEUR & judging by his Content is a Lover Boy of NAZI / GLAM
Thank you so much for such a great video I'm Russian myself and I lost my great grandpa on the Elbe River meeting with the Americans, he endured all the battles from Moscow to Berlin and was heavily wounded in Rzhev meat grinder or as soldiers called the academy of war, his younger brother barely survived the war with over 6 surgeries returned broken at the age of 18 fought from 1943 at 16. Because of the archives now being available, I found my other 96 family members of whom only about half returned home, we will never forget the sacrifice!
The US supplied the Soviet Union with Lend Lease materials prior to its involvement in the war and it saw rapid expansion shortly after which fueled the soviet industry significantly. Stalin also refused to allow civilians to leave resulting in them dying as they would be caught in the crossfire of battle. Many people in the Soviet Union actually welcomed the Germans as liberators because the Stalin regime was so bad and once reoccurred by soviet forces reprisals were carried out. Foreign volunteers in the German army who had experienced life under soviet control like the Latvians, Estonians, Lithuanians, and Ukrainians were also known for their exceptionally hostile behavior towards Soviets. The large lack of food and medicine in POW and labor camps can be contributed heavily to allied strategic bombing of German industry and partisan activities sabotaging supply routes and trains. US and British fighters also had a habit of strafing trains unknowingly targeting train cars packed with POW’s and forced laborers.
Prison of peoples or prison of nations (Russian: тюрьма народов) is a phrase first used by Vladimir Lenin in 1914. He applied it to Russia, describing the national policy of that time. The idea of calling Russia a prison is based on Marquis de Custine's book La Russie en 1839.
Daniil Granin (born in 1919), who spent 3 years in the blockading (by German and Finnish troops) in Leningrad: "The Germans fought better, much better than our soldiers. Moreover - we've managed to win that war only by human flesh!" Boris Vasiljev was the Red Army battle officer during the battle: "The Nazi Germans waged war perfectly. Even when they were encircled, they fought excellently! I know it. I saw it by myself! We've managed to win the war by chance, absolutely. Ewald von Kleist simply decided to stop his tanks for several days just near Moscow. Therefore, the Soviets received some free time in order to transfer the fresh troops, which attacked the Germans very successfully." While General Andrej Andreevitch Vlasov is reputed officially in modern "free capitalist" Russia as a "vicious pro-Nazi collaborator and traitor", Vasiljev considers absolutely differently: "Vlasov was magnificent, properly Russian national military Commander! He decided to revenge himself upon Stalin, who committed terrible crimes against all peoples of Russia. Vlasov had high ideal of the Free Russia, as well as the real sense of responsibility towards his soldiers. The Red Army generals en masse were the direct opposite as compared with Vlasov, thinks Vasiljev: “There were 1.300.000. Russian soldiers killed near Rzhev - through Soviet commanders' faults only, and nobody speaks about the terrible tragedy so far in my country!" The late Viktor Astafjev was on the Soviet-German front all the war long, 1941-1945: "The Germans fought much, much better - in all respects! The Communists chose to shed rivers of the Russian blood literally in order to win the War. The Soviets won over Germany only by their extreme brutality and inhumanity!" The best WW2 Commander? "Field-Marshall Erich von Manstein, of course!, he managed to push three Bolshevik armies into the Azov and Black Seas with the help of two German corpses only! He was the great military genius - yes, really!" And Zhukov? "Honest Russian patriot? Ha! This bastard covered half-Europe by the millions of the Russian guys' corpses by his extremely sadistic personal kind of war waging! He deserves neither honor, nor respect, never!"
uhh just because some guy said so doesn't mean it's true, the germans were outclassed after 43. But since you praise Vlasov I can guess your sources xD
Fell in love with? England did not like Russia before or after the war. Just a enemy of my enemy thing. They were killing Germans so Churchill dealt with him for a time. Same with U.S.
Imagine only defeating your enemy through sheer numbers, begging your "capitalist enemies" to open up a second front, and THEN not even having to honor to not violate innocent women and children when you finally get into German territory? Ultimate coward army in history.
Best item of lend lease the soviets received for its 30 million dead was the Studebaker truck. They rated that piece of equipment as “the great patriotic war” explains in its series.
@@otpflynn5848 true but in 41/42 lends lease was minimal, the defeat for the Germans in front of Moscow & later in Stalingrad had nothing to do with America or Britain.
As to Tukhachevsky, just an FYI. He did make significant contributions to Deep Battle. However, the main theoretician was Vladimir Kiriakovitch Triandafillov, who published two books on the subject in the 1920s. Zhukov's victory over the Japanese in 1939 at Khalkin Gol was a small-scale application of Deep Battle. The doctrine became fully developed on a large scale with Operation Bagration and the Manchurian Startegic Offensive Operation. Mind you, Triandafillov might have also become a victim of the purge had he not died in an aircrash in 1931.
Less politics and more strategy would lead to Germany winning the war imo... There was way too many politics hindering strategic operations... Thats the biggest lesson for the future
What are you talking about? The French capitulated after weeks of fighting in 1940. The Americans joined the war at the very end. The British remained on the island throughout the war. Only the USSR fought. He was inferior to Hitler in everything, but he won.
Not enough historians do not bring up the most important fact. Germany was fighting all over the world strenghing their resoures as russia was just fighting the germans
Well of course that isn't true. Not going into an argument, but just know you're wrong. And the Germans were fighting mostly reservists and draftees, while the Soviets professional armies were in the east guarding against the Japanese. Until Stalingrad, that is.
No, it was because of the combination of soviet deep battle tactics, the 1943 summer campaign, and soviet meat wave tactics. Stalin only killed 15 million
"The German Army Was Better Than Allies" After completing an exhaustive multi-year study of archival records by the US Army War College, the United Kingdom's preeminent historian, Max Hastings, wrote in the attached Washington Post newspaper article, "On a man for man basis, German ground soldiers consistently inflicted casualties at about a 50 percent higher rate than they incurred from the opposing British and American troops under all circumstances (emphasis in original). This was true when they were attacking and when they were defending, when they had a local numerical superiority and when, as was usually the case, they were outnumbered, when they had air superiority and when they did not, when they won and when they lost." Against Russians it was more like: "Against Russian forces, German and allied Finnish troops inflicted a casualty rate of an almost unimaginable 1.950%. In other words, the Russians incurred on average 19.50 casualties for every one (1) German/Finnish."
Was going to look up that research, but found an interesting quote instead: The Red Army was "the main engine of Nazism’s destruction," writes British historian and journalist Max Hastings in "Inferno: The World at War, 1939-1945." The Soviet Union paid the harshest price: though the numbers are not exact, an estimated 26 million Soviet citizens died during World War II, including as many as 11 million soldiers. At the same time, the Germans suffered three-quarters of their wartime losses fighting the Red Army. Not a single day without westoids being disingenuous.
Max Hastings has to be taken with an entire shaker of salt. While a military historian and objectively a good one in most respects but their one major issue with him which is pointed out. He is really critical of the British and Americans. You read that article and you will find him demeaning the average infantryman and using Mark Clark quote to back this up which he who performed rather terribly Italy in actually being a large part of the reason it was such a slog. Also take into account this man believes the standard US infantryman performed poorly in Korea and Vietnam. Which no offense to him but there are pools of openly available resources and events that clearly just disprove this. He also in the habit of his works of focusing more on the divisions of the cream of the crop in the bad paramilitary organization or elite Heer formations. Compared to the standard infanterie division or the static divisions.
I cant get enough of these excellent videos pleased most of it is in colour too!, @History Of War-little TIP> you spoke from begining to end, try taking a pause here and there even if for only a few seconds mate its quite exhausting tbh listning non stop.I also noticed you seem to have found some Rare footage too some ive not seen before and thats saying something!
@@ogbighomie9738because they play it smart we are putting all of cards into the preservation of our empire which is for Ukraine to win russia will drain us slowly not too mention China owning our industry and outpacing our dollar with a population of 30 to 1
@@ogbighomie9738how are our nations looking internally ask yourself that before we go all cowboy and defend a country with countless billions to the determent of our own people
Interesting/informative/entertaining. How many citizens were murdered between 1918 & 1941???🤔. Excellent still-motion photography pictures. Enabling viewers to better understand what the orator is describing.
Infact they were nor able to handle these losses. After the war the were shortage of man everywhere, especially in the industry's. That's one of the reasons why Russia always has poor economics, due the fact that they never couldn't exploit there economic potential Russia also has a 5 females to 1 man ratio even today. In later war pictures at the beginning of 1945, you also see a lot of teenage soldiers.
@@phann860Neither did Zhukov. The only category he was best in was Brutality. No General or Marshal suffered as many losses, or wasted more materiale than Zhukov. Konev was another Butcher, as he was Zhukov's protege'. He lost 1,000,000 men in the disaster at Viazma/Bryansk. The book; "The Viazma Catastrophe" is exceptionally great.
I honestly don't know who the best soldiers were but of the hundreds of WW2 books iv.read this one called War on the Eastern Front, has a 25yo Waffen SS soldier precisely describing the wounded Russian soldiers after a battle. You wouldn't believe it if you read it yourself. This soldier who became a poet after the war couldn't believe what he was seeing.
On the eastern front the German lost over 2 million soldiers with another 2 million civilians and the red army lost at least 14 million KIA and another 3 million MIA, for a total of 17 million dead soldiers. This is a low estimate, as the figure of over 20 million dead soldiers has also been proposed. Total soviet losses are probably over 40 million. On 14 February 2017 at a hearing of the Russian State Duma a presentation by legislator Nikolai Zemtsov, a member of the non-governmental organization Immortal regiment of Russia, maintained that documents of the now defunct Soviet Gosplan indicated that Soviet war dead were almost 42 million (19 million military and 23 million civilians). In 2017 the Russian historian Igor Ivlev put Soviet war dead at 42 million people (19.4 million military and 22.6 million civilians). According to Ivlev, Soviet State Planning Committee documents put the Soviet population at 205 million in June 1941 and 169.8 million for June 1945. Taking into account the 17.6 million births and 10.3 million natural deaths, leaving almost 42 million in war-related losses according to his research. The details of Ivlev's calculations were first announced at a parliamentary readings about the number of losses of the USSR during the Great Patriotic War.[78][79] Ivlev's figures are endorsed by the Russian civic organization Immortal Regiment and have been discussed in the Russian media recently.[13] Ivlev has published a summary of his arguments on the Russian website Demoscope Weekly. According to Ivlev's calculations based on the number of Soviet Communist party and Komsomol members conscripted, military dead and missing were 17.8 million. V. E. Korol-Korol estimated overall Soviet war dead at 46 million including military dead of 23 million. He claimed that the official figure of 8.7 million military dead was "groundless", based on battle accounts from across the Eastern Front. Korol held that the official figures of Krivosheev were an attempt to cover up the disregard for human life by the military leaders under Stalin. Korol cited Soviet authors writing during the Glasnost era that put wartime losses much higher than the official figures; In 1990 General I. A. Gerasimov published information from the Russian Military Archives database that put losses at 16.2 million enlisted men and 1.2 million officers. Korol also cited historian-archivist Iu. Geller who put losses at 46 million, including military dead of 23 million. and A.N. Mertsalov's estimate of 14 million military dead based on documents in the Russian Military Archives.
@@michaelram3411 German would be the lingua franca (as it already was in science) and classical education would have been restored. FDR and his cabal were communists.
Where are you getting these numbers the Germans lost 5 and a half million soldiers and the Soviets lost 7-10 million although more around 6-7 million as half of the 6 million captured died
Great military leader Tukhachevsky ? Are you kidding ? He lost the war against Poland in 1920. His greatest achievement was the suppression of peasant revolt in Tambov area.
I’m not kidding, he was a very valuable asset to the soviet military, in Terms of tactics and thinking, no matter what your opinion is, Stalin killing him was a great mistake for the war.
That's not why the germans gained so much territory during the intiital invasion. It's because they caught the soviets in a purely offensive position as the germans preemptively struck first
We did explain build up of armour in a offensive position, but it’s all a contributing fact. There is no one answer to why the Germans were able to gain so much, I believe it’s a mix of everything.
@@historyatwarIt's because the Germans took the Soviets by surprise, along with the fact that the Soviets were in a transition mode. It was also Stalin's hold-at-all-cost mentality which greatly contributed to the casualty figures on the Soviet side. Also, the Germans had numerical superiority at the points chosen for their armored thrusts. The Luftwaffe also greatly contributed to the high number of Soviet casualties as well. They destroyed most of the pre-war Soviet Air Force, mostly on the ground. The "Border Battles" was the only part of Operation Barbarossa that was actually pre-planned. Hitler, grossly underestimating the Soviets, thought the Soviets would've been defeated shortly thereafter. "We have only to kick in the door, and the whole, rotten edifice will come crashing down", was Hitler's famous saying. Upon the end of the Border Battles, the remainder of Operation Barbarossa was fought on a shoestring (on a tactical level).
Yes, they seem to employ the same methods as they did in 41-45. But in the end they did go all the way to Berlin. Never underestimate the russian ability for absorbing suffering and come back stronger. Besides, Ukraine is a numbers game. Russia has a lot more bodies to feed into the meat grinder. The Ukrainians are so desperate, they are talking about consripting women. What's next, children?
Can you imagine if Germany didn't make the mistakes they made splitting their armies up and the winter warfare and if they had a few more million troops.. They may have actually won the WW2 if everything in Russia went how they wanted it too ahead of time before the US got fully involved..
I´m German, born ´79. One of my Grandfathers fight from ´41- ´mid ´44 eastern in Armouref SS-Div. till he lost both legs witch hat to that time cut of more times because of no Antibiotics WITHOUT Morphine- just "Moonshine". It´s very important to different betwen SS ; Waffen-SS ; SS-Polizei ; Einsatzgruppen. He told me Bastards was most of Einsatzgruppen and ESPECIALLY "Kettenhunde" (MP) which behave like Superman but most killing helpless without Weapons in the "Etappe" (Area between Germany and HKL (Frontline) why the fighting Units call them "Etappenhengste" and ALL Fighters in Waffem-SS and Wehrmacht hated and disrespect them! But like the "Politkommisare" redside they was able to kill the Squads by will without serious Consequences by say "Feigheit vor dem Feind" In Stalingrad for Example Paulus and the Organisationmembers of that Groups had allmost till End more than enough "zum Fressen" (Food) while the Fighters Eat their died Comrades. The Kettenhunde killed till End now not anymore following Soldiers to Blackmail them running nearly without food, Weapons or Ammo into Death "obwohl" they had before heard the Speech from Germany the whole Army Already Died. Today many Germans know Adolf learns like Anjelica Kazmierski to hate the REAL Germans at Tavistock Institute and loved like many of his faqr Left Socialists till end the "Bariloche" County in Patagonia like Hotel Eden!
If Hitler had waited 11 years with trade deals in military and scientific research and development and if he formed an alliance with both Facsist Portugal and Fascist Spain and used what remained of their colonies as secret bases for those advances, he would have begun the war by 1945 in which by then he would have an air fleet of jet fighter planes and jet bombers and already have several atomic bombs ready for use.
thanks to God they lost. The Nazi plan was once they won to genocide most Poles and Russians, keep some for slaves. Utter evil and the world gave a collective sigh when the Nazis were defeated.
Подобно тому как у бомжи не могут встроится в общество по причине отсутствия у них определенных социальных навыков, россияне не способны создать нормальное общество по причине исторически накопленных деффектов национального менталитета. Самым очевидным из этих дефектов есть полное недоверие друг к другу. Из века в век условные россияне живут по принципу, озвученному Солженициным : “Умри ты сегодна я я завтра”. По этой причине у обитателей этой территории начисто отсутвует способность к самоорганизации. От полной анархии россиян удерживает повсеместная покорность , из-за которой они способны терпеть любое спущенное сверху управление, каким бы преступным и некомпетентным оно бы не было
I thank you for your great words!!! Because that we Germans say "Untermenschen". Not because they fundamental where, but they where made from regime to that!!!!! Poor people with simple mentality!!!
@@helmuthaberkost4901 Thank you too. I understood the difference between Western mentality and Russian mentality while communicating with old Austrian veteran of 12th Waffen division. His name was Helmut Grossman. He passed away in 2020 age 94.
@@baruchspinoza3106 So you take what a a ww2 SS veteran said about there rivals the Soviets as completely true with no biases. The Soviets beat them and also he may just be a little racist against the Russians considering he’s in the SS your a idiot and I bet you think he was your friend to😂
“Stalin was nowhere to be found “ during the battle of Moscow ? Stalin was missing only for the first 2 weeks at the start of Barbarossa. Then he was in total control of the military. This fact is WW2 101. After this I couldn’t watch this video further.
No no, you are mistaken comrade. More the entire timbre of the narrative, nothing positive to mention anywhere. One would suppose the soviets won despite themselves !
Yes the creator is distorting reality. The soviets are responsible for 80% of Germans combat deaths, that's a almost 2 Soviet soldiers for every German, this excludes: Finnish, Italians, Hungarians, Romanians, and countless from occupied states/volunteers. Germany had control of the most populous/industrial society: Western Europe. A 2:1 ratio make sense when the soviets were attacking for the majority of the war 1942(Late)-1945
@@Abdal-AZA i think the ratio is more in the area of 4:1 or 5:1. Russians like today putin sending men to slaughter. in the early phase of the war this was maybe neccessary because of the german advance, but later on it showed just russian mentality - just go head-on with overwhelming material support disgegarding human life (their own people). Stalin assessed rightly that this was a struggle for survival and acted accordingly. but in the end the sowjets (not russia) won and the winner takes it all. and despite i am german i think that this outcome is the right one. if germans had won the scale of murder would be much higher and i don't want to live in such a society.
There were three main reasons for this colossal loss of about 27 million Soviets. 1. The the Nazis had about 220 army divisions in WW2 and 200 of them were fighting at the Eastern Front ! Only about 20 divisions were fighting at the Western Front. Stalin refused to believe (due to their Soviet-Nazi Brest-Litovsk Treaty) that the Nazis were planning to attack in 1941 despite dire warnings by Richard Sorge, their chief Soviet spy in Berlin. 2. The Red Army was also decimated by Stalin's military purges of top officers from 1931 ~ 1937 like Mikhail Tukachevsky, etc.. Even the future, superb army Marshall Konstantin Rokossovssky, was jailed and beaten in the gulags. 3. The initial incompetence and of inexperienced Soviet Red Army generals from 1941~end 1942 who were not totally prepared to fight a huge war against the German onslaught together with many early inferior weapons like planes, tanks, artillery, etc. also caused these terrible losses.
The purges get way too much credit for the early Soviet defeats during Barbarossa. They did play a major part but equal to them was how the Germans were able to convince Stalin and the Soviet leadership that the main objectives of Barbarossa would be in the south through Ukraine which is where the Soviets put their best troops and set their strongest defense. They were not expecting for the spearhead to be with Army Group Center and headed to Moscow. The preparations in the south forced Hitler to divert forces needed tk take Moscow to the south in order to take Kiev. The Germans did the opposite in 1942 when the Soviets expected a continued attack towards Moscow and Hitler made the south and its resources the objective. Once Stalin finally realized Moscow wasn't going to be the objective he allowed the transfer of troops which led to the German defeat in Stalingrad and pushback in Little Saturn. The Germans massively underestimated the amount of troops, tanks, and field guns the Soviets possessed. The thought the Soviets would dismantle entire factories in the west and move them past the Urals also never crossed the minds of German leadership. Had they switched to the defense in 1941 instead of attempting to take Moscow probably would have set them up for a victory in the spring of 1942. The fact they attempted to take Moscow and hopefully win the war in 1941 set the stage for their loss. After losing a million men during Barbarossa the Germans had very little chance of an all out victory.
I whole heatedly agree, one of the contributing factor for soviet loss in 1941 was that the soviet army was far from ready to wage war, to the point that most units are severely under equipped and supplied even before the war, they where also no preparation for logistic bases and supply point for soviet units leading to the loss of most of their equipment since there are no maintenance or even resupply alocated after every battle, even the soviet infantry where more mobile than the motorized elements since the infantry had horses and the motorized have yet to receive any trucks, thou the purge and the disposition have played major roles in their defeat in 41, i think the fact that the red army was not ready for a war is what doomed them the most.
Historical notes: Stalin said “Do not tell the people how many we lost, tell them how many we killed.” Stalin convinced himself that he had literally a bottomless well of manpower to draw from. In 1937, the census bureau told him he did not. Every top and mid level manager was convicted of treason and shot. Their entire families went to the gulags never to return. It was Stalin’s No Retreat orders that, time and again, spelled doom for entire armies and army groups. If, when he ordered a retreat, it was always too late. Every photo and film clip from the Soviet Union had to be filtered by several layers of party officers, propaganda officers and NKVD intelligence officers before being released to the public. Every one. No exceptions. This is why in most, soviet troops look well fed, clean, well armed and well dressed. It presented a total reverse of reality. NKVD records show that Stalin was readying to invade Eastern Europe, especially Romania for its oil fields. That’s why the best soviet units were in their south west. Hitler caught them in preparation stages at the jumping off points. This was the reason for poor coordination between soviet armies and fronts. Today, there are well known British authors of WWII who question deeply everything on the allied side, and discover secrets and little known facts. These same authors take soviet “records” as pure fact and never question them. They turn a blind eye to the reality of soviet propaganda.
France had the luxury of surrendering and getting proper treatment from the germans, we did not have it. Our surrender would mean enslavement and total genocide. 28 million is a tremendous horrible price for freedom but it had to be paid. I am just glad my great grandfathers managed to survive it
if ut wasnt for Russians and their sacrifice, we'd all bespeaking German. Brits would be erased. Sick of Brits and US taking all the credit. @@michaelram3411
When the German army was retreating they used mine fields to slow the Russia units. So the Russians would use cattle horses and men either deserters penal units and traitors to clear the mines which amazed the Germans of the total disregard for casualties. Being sent in to battle with 3 men to one rifle and to few rounds of bullets so when the one with the gun was shot the next would pick up said gun and attack the Germans. The 3rd battle of Kharkov the stink of the dead was constant one German soldier recorded all ways in the nose.
The three men to one rifle never happened. Soviet production of small arms, tanks and artillery was colossal. They were not lacking basic equipment. They were lacking tactical coordination and empathy from their commanders and political leadership.
The Soviet/Russian war doctrine has always been best summarized by Lenin's statement of "Quantity has a quality all it's own." Meaning wear down your opponents through sheer force of numbers rather than any sort of respect for human life.
That's just a lie. The point of "quantity is a quality of it's own" is that if something isn't necessary the absolute best, but is easy to use/produce, reliable and gets the job done, then it's better than unwieldy "wonder weapons" that exist in singular exemplars and require constant maintenance to function.
@@hisdudeness8328 very well actually. In shell production, for exactly, Russia outproduces NATO 3 to 1, russian tanks cost a fractions of NATO ones, while being actually more useful, reliable (remember challenger that got stuck in the mud ob test site?) and easy to produce. The issue here is that after looking at russian attempt to keep everything cheap and mass producible, westerners assume that their equipment is "quality > quantity" by default. But your tanks don't suddenly become high quality if you could only produce a couple of them for overprice, "quality" is something that proves it's worth in combat. Instead that means your production capacities are dogshit and you're dangerously unprepared for a real war. Like, for example, do you remember various western publications of 2022, where they said NATO had supplies for about 2 weeks of warfare of similar intensity as SMO? Or how right now western artillery shells cost 4 times more than russian ones? Is this also quality?
@@hisdudeness8328700k ukies gone almost 3 million wounded and Russia is not even at half of that quite well I say considering ukraine was always russian I would love to see our boys against them we can't tell what gender is anymore we even despise our own culture now blue voter??
The German army was that strong and thats what it took to beat them... They were the only ones who would tolerate that price and still are today, maybe the Chinesse would too...
Soviet mass industrial economics is what really beat the Germans! Russian churning out good superior tanks and average aircrafts and good equipments and such was really the key, couple that with mass manpower of course and soviet organisation, a force that must not be underestimated at all! The Lend lease act boosted it massively. Soviet mismanagement by spineless officers who were more afraid of the NKVD then the Germans may very well have caused more Russian deaths then getting killed directly by the Germans. No way in hell massive wave attacks would have caused that much casualties. Germans don't have enough amo on them to cause that much casualties! And these mass wave attacks don't last that long to be able swallow up that many men.
Not just numbers but the tonnage of U.S. Lend-Lease aid, and their industrial capacity as well. The Soviets eventually had enough of everything Germany lacked. Fuel, motor vehicles of all types, planes of all types, proper winter clothing, etc. It was as much of a war of logistics as it was the replacement of front line and rear echelon personnel. The German Heer (Army) had problems with replacements from the outset.
Forced conscription. Stalin reopened the churches and engaged in massive nationalist patriotic propaganda once Moscow was threatened. Few were willing to kill and die for the Soviet project. Many more were willing to kill and die for God and Russia.
They definitely suffered. They were targeted worse then any other group bye the Nazis. Really an ignorant way to think bro. As if it matters who suffers more or not.... I don't think the victims that died really care if they other people that died had it worse then them or not.
Your forgetting the Jews were not combatants they were civilians and totally disempowered and no rights. In truth were no threat to Germany however AH and his Nazi minions used them as scapegoats for his ethic cleansing so in away they were made to suffer unfairly.
The point being made is the Russian people lost millions but we are told over and over that the six million Jewish deaths is somehow more tragic.The Russians lost at least 27,000,000 people.
В своем знаменитом интервью 1959 года Карл Юнг, на вопрос журналиста о роли Гитлера в коллективном бессознательном немцев, обьяснил, что фюрер воспринимался как мифологический герой из древних тевтонских мифов. А теперь представтьте степень ущербности народца, в подсознании которого роль героя занимает тщедушное, гнусненькое, постоянно врущее и ходящее по большому на чемодан существо с поросячьми глазками ?
Interesting set of comments that provide a different view of the war in Russia to that more usually offered. Historians will continue to debate the Soviet Union and WW2 for many years to come.
As a Russian your way of telling these numbers was very straight forward as if Russian (Soviets) leaders, commanders and soldiers didn't cared about human live while ignoring the fact that most deaths were civilians and prisoners not the direct conflicts... I'm not saying that I counted and know the real numbers, but the losses stated by you are either misinterpreted or mistranslated because of information war by both sides does Losses (Deaths and Captured) suffered by the Soviets are around 10.8 million (9.3 million deaths and pow death + 1.5 million remaining prisoners) while Axis suffered 9.3 million (5.4 deaths + 3.9 million remaining prisoners) which is not a bad ratio when seeing the losses in 1941 Causalities (Deaths, Missing, Captured and Wounded) amounted at 24-27 million for Soviets and 15-18 million for Axis I hope you understand what I mean
Great video, but please review the prose, as there is a lot of repetition. Repetition matches the video, lots of repetition, it could succinctly be less than half the running length.
The us and british came into the war in 1943 when russia was allreading winning the war . 85% of the war was between RUSSIA and GERMAN. For most of the war the british and the U.S were bench warmers.sitting on the sidelines.
The U.S. and british intered the war in 1943 when the R USSIA was winning the war, pushing the germans back .the americans and british became brave ,After the war was all most over.85% of the war was between RUSSIA and GERMANY.
My grandfather was taken to forced labour to Reich in 1942 ,then in late 1943 he was coming back home he got into fight with drunk German,they put him into concentration camp. In the end of 1944 Soviets "liberated" the camp and enrolled him into the Strafbatalion. He went trough the rest of war along with Belarusian front . He even got promoted to corporal. After all those years he claimed he was better off and safer in concentration camp.
Why, when calculating the loss ratio, do they forget to mention that a huge part of the losses of the USSR are not military losses, but the result of genocide? Why are Soviet collaborators considered Soviet losses, if at the time of death they were armed against the USSR? Why do they forget about the huge share of Germany's allies? Why do we hear about the ratio of losses of 1 to 2 and 1 to 1.3, but not 1 to 1, which in fact was the case.
28,000,000 military losses is a good estimate by David Glantz. David Glantz had access to the Soviet archives and that's where all his information came from. He is the most respected historian/author on the German/Soviet war. I've read the majority of his books and all of them are exceptional. He cites all sources from which his statistical figures are calculated. The ratio was 1:19; 19 Soviets for every German.
3:17 Yes, I meant NKVD not KGB, just a slip of the tongue. My bad !
28,000,000 were not all soldiers but 20,000,000 civilians murdered by nazis. Just in Minsk they wiped out 2/3 of the population and you should know this before showing your Nazi sympathy.
The Germans were skilled on the offensive and were skilled on the defense and made the Soviets pay heavily.
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Cheka covers it all
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Not even that,
Not even the nazi Einsatzgruppen,
Not even the massacre of the POWs
& of the population by other German
forces.
Such casualties could come by only because the Russians were fighting
a 2-Front war :
One in the front against Mustachio1
One in the rear against Mustachio2
The latter got the lion's share of the total.
In the front they could defend themselves
In the rear they couldn't.
Incredible combat footage. I watch a lot of these WW2 vids and your video has quite a bit of footage that I haven't seen before. Well done.
this channel is so much better than the wikipedia history mark felton peddles out!
The story how it's told with all the footage, diary's and music, almost makes you feel like you are there right now.
You almost can feel the waste, carnage, and vicious fighting while the story is being told.
A friend of mine's grandfather was a German infantryman during the Seelow Heights battle. He told us the Soviet barrage was so terrible onto the German lines that he trembled for days afterwards. Hour after hour of bombing and katushya rockets followed by waves of tanks and men. All he and his fellow lansers could do is fire everything they had continuously then turn and run. The russians never seemed to end or stop.
Insane!
*Landser.
And you're absolutely correct, the Seelow heights battle was incredibly brutal indeed. 👍🏻
My workmates father was on the Eastern front and said what stopped the Russian attack was that they couldn't climb over their own dead bodies.
And here is the explanation why Germany lost the war - the luck of available resources made a Germany's situation hopeless. Actually it was hopeless from the very beginning and explains why Stalin did not believe that Hitler would even try to attach USSR while having the war with UK at the same time.
Wow!
I love your channel. I’ve been watching WW2 documentaries since I was a child. You have a lot of footage I’ve never seen before, especially the Stalingrad episode. Incredible images and footage.
Thank you! 🤝
I have been looking for a video about this topic. Thank you
Keep up the brilliant content lad
Out of all my family on my dad's side, only one returned from the war out of the 9 or so members of my family that fought in the Red Army. On my mom's side, everyone who served in the US Army returned home
Another banger by @historyAtWar. Great content
Thank you!! 🤝
i feel the lack of good NCOs was crucial,many couldnt read and so anything other than mass attacks was way beyond them tactically and led to even more casualties
Still a problem,as evidenced in Ukraine. The Russians are officer heavy and orientated. Stupid mistake, really.
I knew this was going to be good and you did not disappoint my friend !!! 👍🏼😎
Thanks. The Eastern Front ww2 has so many unknowns.. and is still very unexplored and even less understood. This film helps spread light and knowledge.
It has lots of unknows for people in the West.Because your western elites don't want you know who actually won ww2🤷♂️
May I suggest you read books authored by David Glantz. You will get a more than thorough understanding. They are all great books by the most respected author on the subject.
But man for man, the Germans of WWII are still widely considered the best.
The best most disciplined army up to that point, regardless of what they say.
Yes. The Germans fighting spirit; organization and ruthlessness are an inspiration to men down through the ages
The images of the SS in full dress uniform are mesmerizing
No young man goes to bed dreaming of being the next Musk, Zuckerberg, Rothchild etc
Man for man means nothing in modern warfare. The Germans lost. They were crushed on the Eastern Front by an army that was larger and was capable sustaining enormous losses and yet keep fighting for almost five years. A foe that could produce 80,000 T-34 tanks. More and better field artillery. It had interior lines of supply and the Germans stupidly never concentrated on adequate logistics system to arm and feed their troops.
The early victories in Europe with the exception of France were against second and third rate armies. Once they met a real opponent
They were mauled and crushed. After the failure of Operation Blue the German Army was on the retreat until the final victory in Berlin.
Modern warfare is about production and logistics. Not man for man. After the war a group of reporters asked Zhukov when he knew the German’s would lose the War in Russia. Without hesitation he said, “the day they invaded our country”.
Yeah they were so good they lost twice. Get real.
@@johnciummo3299 Oh please, the Germans would have won if it wasn't for lend lease and Stalin begging his "capitalist enemies" to open a second front. The soviets were the biggest cowards in history who violated women and children after only gaining the advantage through sheer numbers and bending over for their ideological enemies (Britain and US).
I´m German, born ´79. One of my Grandfathers fight from ´41- ´mid ´44 eastern in Armouref SS-Div. till he lost both legs witch hat to that time cut of more times because of no Antibiotics WITHOUT Morphine- just "Moonshine". It´s very important to different betwen SS ; Waffen-SS ; SS-Polizei ; Einsatzgruppen.
He told me Bastards was most of Einsatzgruppen and ESPECIALLY "Kettenhunde" (MP) which behave like Superman but most killing helpless without Weapons in the "Etappe" (Area between Germany and HKL (Frontline) why the fighting Units call them "Etappenhengste" and ALL Fighters in Waffem-SS and Wehrmacht hated and disrespect them! But like the "Politkommisare" redside they was able to kill the Squads by will without serious Consequences by say "Feigheit vor dem Feind"
In Stalingrad for Example Paulus and the Organisationmembers of that Groups had allmost till End more than enough "zum Fressen" (Food) while the Fighters Eat their died Comrades.
The Kettenhunde killed till End now not anymore following Soldiers to Blackmail them running nearly without food, Weapons or Ammo into Death "obwohl" they had before heard the Speech from Germany the whole Army Already Died.
Today many Germans know Adolf learns like Anjelica Kazmierski to hate the REAL Germans at Tavistock Institute and loved like many of his faqr Left Socialists till end the "Bariloche" County in Patagonia like Hotel Eden!
Sir, that is a fable propagated by post-war German leadership. Intense and thorouth research by Dr. Geoffrey Megargee revealed that SS atrocities bled down into the ranks of the every day soldier. Of course, not every soldier but a significantly larger numbers than post war leadership would lead you to believe. "Letters to home" indicated justified wholesale slaughter of Soviet soldiers and civilians as "necessary for German victory of communism.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_clean_Wehrmacht
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Alot of them still would have died against the Germans....
Nikita Khrushchev said in his memoirs that Stalin told him several times and others in private conversations that they Russia couldn't beat Germany one on one without the help of the Americans (lend-lease program)
That's just not true. Lend-lease didn't eventually take off until 43 by which time the Russians had already started pushing back the Germans and already won battle of Stalingrad. Most of lendlease were trucks and food. It was less than 10% of the equipments Soviets used during the war
@@temitayolasisi4428 I'm sure Nikita Khrushchev and Stalin knew more about it than you.
By 1943 Germany was close to outproducing the union in number of kwaks, aircraft,u boats and heavy tanks. What crippled Germany was the terror bombing campaign
Germany relied heavily on oil from it's Axis allies and millions of Axis troops from other nations were able to provide manpower. The Soviet Union was not fighting just Germany nor would Germany have won without Axis support.
@@PassionateSpirit88 there is no proof that he ever said anything of that nature, just a rumor
It wasn't the KGB who conducted the big purge. The KGB wasn't founded untill 1954. The predecesor of the KGB was the NKVD. Thats quite the blunder in my opinion.
Yes I’m fully aware, just a slip of the tongue, my bad!
Same thing, different name. To this day, basically.
@@Stakan79FSB does not conduct purges in Russia nowadays😂😂
@@mbompenza7082 They would be knocking on your door to get you ready for the front lines son, or they will kick it down and rough you up before you get sent to the front lines but its up to you how you want to go.
Most people in soviet union would call the nkvd as its previous name ’cheka’ and the members as chekists.
It's crazy to think even before WW2 and 25+ million casualties they suffered, the Russians also had a revolution and a civil war. They experienced tremendous change and tremendous suffering, but I believe it helped make them incredibly tough.
Oh definitely, the amount of suffering and death they went through is insane.
The kind of losses the Russians experienced would break most nations. They perservered with an Iron will.
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My younger uncle lived in USSR as a student in 1970s.. he studied at Leningrad.. once he said Russia was originally an earthworm in sixteenth century before peter the great.. then she gradually got stong and slowly over a period of centuries turned into an anaconda.. Russians are no doubt toughest people of earth.. when we study the Russian revolution and era of Stalin one get stunned...we have seen it's struggle of 1990s after break down of Soviet union.. just amazing..
If it hadn't been for the usa and britain,the russians would have been speaking german today
They have this threshold for suffering, that no other European can stomach.
After the German Invasion, Rokossovsky was at a STAVKA meeting and Stalin looked down the table and says - haven't seen you for a while, where've you been? In the GULAG, Comrade Stalin, was the reply. Really? - But you're back now eh? .......!!!
Made up by someone who doesn't know that GULag is the abbreviation of the Main Administration of Corrective Labour Camps. As such it was not used to refer to the camps were prisoners served.
For a very short duration I venture to guess-???🤔.
@asullivan4047 Short duration in a camp? He was there for 2-3 years, reinstated around 1940. Another reason why the anecdote is fake is that he had already been back for at least a year by the time of the invasion and the creation of the Stavka.
Short duration after? No. He was one of the most important generals and Front commanders, as well as participating in the planning of several major offensives (along with Zhukov, Vasilevsky, Vatutin, Koniev and Antonov). He was promoted to Marshal in 1944 after having a significant role in planning and executing Operation Bagration (which destroyed the German Army Group Centre and advanced about 500 km on a 2,000 km front in 2 months. After the war, he became the Polish Minister of Defense.
@@kovesp1 Yes it was used to refer to the camps where prisoners served.
The Red Army did not suffer 28 million casualties. The USSR suffered 28 million casualties. In Belarus alone, more than 10,000 villages were destroyed by the Germans and their inhabitants murdered.
are you sure that wasn't the Red Army?
That's not true. The figures were hidden from the Soviet people as it was thought beyond traumatic what it cost in terms of soldiers to defeat the Nazis. When the USSR fell in 1990 the archives were opened and the true death toll was seen for the first time. It was 20 million more than the official records showed. Even then it was deemed too sensitive to actually reveal how many died. Those archives were closed and put away. Sorry I can't cite sources but I have read that in reliable historic publications.
By their own admission soviet deaths approached 28 million in ww2. This of course includes the millions of pows and civilians including jews who were deliberately murdered by the invaders.
@@pieterwillembotha6719 POSITIVE/ THE STATS HAVE BEEN COVERED BY/ MANY MILITARY W.W.2 HISTORY AUTHORAITIES/ RESEARCHERS , AUTHORS etc.
This Guy is a U TUBE AMATEUR & judging by his Content is a Lover Boy of NAZI / GLAM
Please tell the french that so the micro tragedy of ouradur Sur Glan (however it's spelled) in its proper context.
Very In depth, good work
thanks matey
@@historyatwarcan you do a video on Léon Degrelle?
Thank you so much for such a great video I'm Russian myself and I lost my great grandpa on the Elbe River meeting with the Americans, he endured all the battles from Moscow to Berlin and was heavily wounded in Rzhev meat grinder or as soldiers called the academy of war, his younger brother barely survived the war with over 6 surgeries returned broken at the age of 18 fought from 1943 at 16. Because of the archives now being available, I found my other 96 family members of whom only about half returned home, we will never forget the sacrifice!
So you've got Putin today, you fool.
@@laszloesterhazy1784 Putin is up against, USA, UK, GERMANY, ISRAEL, FRANCE, and NATO, Five Empires against Russia. Just like Germany.
Are you planning on joining Putin in your countries greatest embarrassment to date??😅
@@lumo5691 Awesome response, my dear!
@@laszloesterhazy1784hey hey easy,buddy boy...u scared of Putin??😂
Nice !!
The US supplied the Soviet Union with Lend Lease materials prior to its involvement in the war and it saw rapid expansion shortly after which fueled the soviet industry significantly. Stalin also refused to allow civilians to leave resulting in them dying as they would be caught in the crossfire of battle. Many people in the Soviet Union actually welcomed the Germans as liberators because the Stalin regime was so bad and once reoccurred by soviet forces reprisals were carried out. Foreign volunteers in the German army who had experienced life under soviet control like the Latvians, Estonians, Lithuanians, and Ukrainians were also known for their exceptionally hostile behavior towards Soviets. The large lack of food and medicine in POW and labor camps can be contributed heavily to allied strategic bombing of German industry and partisan activities sabotaging supply routes and trains. US and British fighters also had a habit of strafing trains unknowingly targeting train cars packed with POW’s and forced laborers.
to sum up, If it hadn't been for the usa and britain,the russians would have been speaking german today
@@michaelram3411not how it would’ve went lol smooth brain
До того как вступил в войну?
Первый ленд Лиз 1942🐑
@@СергейЗнамин Первый ленд Лиз was Octubre 1941
Stalin Executed & DEPORTED 250 000 ETHNIC " Volga" Germans into Gulags before & during the War too !
Prison of peoples or prison of nations (Russian: тюрьма народов) is a phrase first used by Vladimir Lenin in 1914. He applied it to Russia, describing the national policy of that time. The idea of calling Russia a prison is based on Marquis de Custine's book La Russie en 1839.
Daniil Granin (born in 1919), who spent 3 years in the blockading (by German and Finnish troops) in Leningrad:
"The Germans fought better, much better than our soldiers. Moreover - we've managed to win that war only by human flesh!"
Boris Vasiljev was the Red Army battle officer during the battle:
"The Nazi Germans waged war perfectly. Even when they were encircled, they fought excellently! I know it. I saw it by myself! We've managed to win the war by chance, absolutely. Ewald von Kleist simply decided to stop his tanks for several days just near Moscow. Therefore, the Soviets received some free time in order to transfer the fresh troops, which attacked the Germans very successfully."
While General Andrej Andreevitch Vlasov is reputed officially in modern "free capitalist" Russia as a "vicious pro-Nazi collaborator and traitor", Vasiljev considers absolutely differently:
"Vlasov was magnificent, properly Russian national military Commander! He decided to revenge himself upon Stalin, who committed terrible crimes against all peoples of Russia. Vlasov had high ideal of the Free Russia, as well as the real sense of responsibility towards his soldiers. The Red Army generals en masse were the direct opposite as compared with Vlasov, thinks Vasiljev:
“There were 1.300.000. Russian soldiers killed near Rzhev - through Soviet commanders' faults only, and nobody speaks about the terrible tragedy so far in my country!"
The late Viktor Astafjev was on the Soviet-German front all the war long, 1941-1945:
"The Germans fought much, much better - in all respects! The Communists chose to shed rivers of the Russian blood literally in order to win the War. The Soviets won over Germany only by their extreme brutality and inhumanity!"
The best WW2 Commander?
"Field-Marshall Erich von Manstein, of course!, he managed to push three Bolshevik armies into the Azov and Black Seas with the help of two German corpses only! He was the great military genius - yes, really!"
And Zhukov?
"Honest Russian patriot? Ha! This bastard covered half-Europe by the millions of the Russian guys' corpses by his extremely sadistic personal kind of war waging! He deserves neither honor, nor respect, never!"
Very interesting, thanks for sharing these accounts 🤝
uhh just because some guy said so doesn't mean it's true, the germans were outclassed after 43. But since you praise Vlasov I can guess your sources xD
And how many gas chambers did the Soviets use on innocent women & children ?
The Germans were so humane.
Interesting! 👍👍
War is hell.
At the end, Russia won, barely.
Stalin murdered millions of Ukrainians so he had no problem wasting men of the red army. This is the guy Churchill fell in love with
Fell in love with? England did not like Russia before or after the war. Just a enemy of my enemy thing. They were killing Germans so Churchill dealt with him for a time. Same with U.S.
Bro what churchill hated him. He wanted to keep going east
Keep it up bro, love these videos
Imagine only defeating your enemy through sheer numbers, begging your "capitalist enemies" to open up a second front, and THEN not even having to honor to not violate innocent women and children when you finally get into German territory? Ultimate coward army in history.
what Germans did to Russians , the price Germans paid is nothing.
What the red army did was wrong but the nazis committed millions of atrocities as well. All sides did bad things even the British and Americans.
It was a “hate campaign” against the German people, urged on by an unbalanced neurotic Jew named Ilya Ehrenburg!
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Without lend-lease the Soviets would have been defeated, despite their heroism. Also, the number of casualties would have been even more staggering
Best item of lend lease the soviets received for its 30 million dead was the Studebaker truck.
They rated that piece of equipment as “the great patriotic war” explains in its series.
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@@otpflynn5848 true but in 41/42 lends lease was minimal, the defeat for the Germans in front of Moscow & later in Stalingrad had nothing to do with America or Britain.
And without the Soviets, the Americans and British would have suffered 28 million losses instead...
We got the bomb first
As to Tukhachevsky, just an FYI. He did make significant contributions to Deep Battle. However, the main theoretician was Vladimir Kiriakovitch Triandafillov, who published two books on the subject in the 1920s. Zhukov's victory over the Japanese in 1939 at Khalkin Gol was a small-scale application of Deep Battle. The doctrine became fully developed on a large scale with Operation Bagration and the Manchurian Startegic Offensive Operation. Mind you, Triandafillov might have also become a victim of the purge had he not died in an aircrash in 1931.
It took 4 Empires, The British, American, French and Soviet Empire 6 years to defeat Germany. Thats how good the Germans were.
Less politics and more strategy would lead to Germany winning the war imo... There was way too many politics hindering strategic operations... Thats the biggest lesson for the future
Neither the Soviets nor the Americans fought the Germans for 6 years. Germany also had many allies which helped. Stop sucking off the Germans.
What are you talking about? The French capitulated after weeks of fighting in 1940. The Americans joined the war at the very end. The British remained on the island throughout the war. Only the USSR fought. He was inferior to Hitler in everything, but he won.
Lol. If during the start of the war. The Germans would have been defeated. If the British and France were more organized
Русским потребовалось 4 года.
Great narration
Thanks!!
Not enough historians do not bring up the most important fact. Germany was fighting all over the world strenghing their resoures as russia was just fighting the germans
80% of them and the Romanians Italians Hungarian and fins alongside volunteers from Germanys Europe
Well of course that isn't true. Not going into an argument, but just know you're wrong. And the Germans were fighting mostly reservists and draftees, while the Soviets professional armies were in the east guarding against the Japanese. Until Stalingrad, that is.
@@Avi-h1wthat is definitely not true, lol.
@@Avi-h1w hahaha
Great content
Russia's lack of concern for human life has always existed and is proved once again today in Ukraine.
There's a reason Europeans have always refused to accept them as part of Europe
Refreshingly evenhanded.
The losses were due to not only the 3rd reich but being treaed badly by the Stalinists NKVD. I think more died from Stalin than Hitler...
Exactly!!!!
No, it was because of the combination of soviet deep battle tactics, the 1943 summer campaign, and soviet meat wave tactics. Stalin only killed 15 million
@@My_Lacrimosa Only 15 million? ok
The Soviets slaughtered all the locals that remained in previously captured German territory.
@@sichere Stalin torchmans order 0428. Soviets kills civilians while wearing Gemran uniforms.
this channel is so much better than the wikipedia history mark felton peddles out!
Mark Felton has a jaded point of view. Comes from a personal place sometimes
"The German Army Was Better Than Allies" After completing an exhaustive multi-year study of archival records by the US Army War College, the United Kingdom's preeminent historian, Max Hastings, wrote in the attached Washington Post newspaper article, "On a man for man basis, German ground soldiers consistently inflicted casualties at about a 50 percent higher rate than they incurred from the opposing British and American troops under all circumstances (emphasis in original). This was true when they were attacking and when they were defending, when they had a local numerical superiority and when, as was usually the case, they were outnumbered, when they had air superiority and when they did not, when they won and when they lost."
Against Russians it was more like:
"Against Russian forces, German and allied Finnish troops inflicted a casualty rate of an almost unimaginable 1.950%. In other words, the Russians incurred on average 19.50 casualties for every one (1) German/Finnish."
That there is some fine research; to the point and well written.
Was going to look up that research, but found an interesting quote instead:
The Red Army was "the main engine of Nazism’s destruction," writes British historian and journalist Max Hastings in "Inferno: The World at War, 1939-1945." The Soviet Union paid the harshest price: though the numbers are not exact, an estimated 26 million Soviet citizens died during World War II, including as many as 11 million soldiers. At the same time, the Germans suffered three-quarters of their wartime losses fighting the Red Army.
Not a single day without westoids being disingenuous.
Max Hastings has to be taken with an entire shaker of salt. While a military historian and objectively a good one in most respects but their one major issue with him which is pointed out. He is really critical of the British and Americans. You read that article and you will find him demeaning the average infantryman and using Mark Clark quote to back this up which he who performed rather terribly Italy in actually being a large part of the reason it was such a slog. Also take into account this man believes the standard US infantryman performed poorly in Korea and Vietnam. Which no offense to him but there are pools of openly available resources and events that clearly just disprove this. He also in the habit of his works of focusing more on the divisions of the cream of the crop in the bad paramilitary organization or elite Heer formations. Compared to the standard infanterie division or the static divisions.
I cant get enough of these excellent videos pleased most of it is in colour too!, @History Of War-little TIP> you spoke from begining to end, try taking a pause here and there even if for only a few seconds mate its quite exhausting tbh listning non stop.I also noticed you seem to have found some Rare footage too some ive not seen before and thats saying something!
The Red army are suffering countless losses in Ukraine so not much has changed
Don't be decieved.
Ukraine is losing by far..
Russia isn't even using its regular army.
@@rdallas81If Ukraine is losing as you say then why Russians are advancing only 5km per year?
@@ogbighomie9738because they play it smart we are putting all of cards into the preservation of our empire which is for Ukraine to win russia will drain us slowly not too mention China owning our industry and outpacing our dollar with a population of 30 to 1
@@ogbighomie9738how are our nations looking internally ask yourself that before we go all cowboy and defend a country with countless billions to the determent of our own people
@@ogbighomie9738Limited war, like the Americans in Vietnam. If you destroy the proxy military you risk a wider, more costly conflict
Interesting/informative/entertaining. How many citizens were murdered between 1918 & 1941???🤔. Excellent still-motion photography pictures. Enabling viewers to better understand what the orator is describing.
It’s really hard to even comprehend the losses. 28 million. It’s absurd that they were able to handle those losses
Not really, Stalin couldn't care a monkeys about losses.
Thats a big reason why Russia's demographics are screwed up still to this day.
Infact they were nor able to handle these losses.
After the war the were shortage of man everywhere, especially in the industry's.
That's one of the reasons why Russia always has poor economics, due the fact that they never couldn't exploit there economic potential
Russia also has a 5 females to 1 man ratio even today.
In later war pictures at the beginning of 1945, you also see a lot of teenage soldiers.
@@phann860Neither did Zhukov. The only category he was best in was Brutality. No General or Marshal suffered as many losses, or wasted more materiale than Zhukov. Konev was another Butcher, as he was Zhukov's protege'. He lost 1,000,000 men in the disaster at Viazma/Bryansk. The book; "The Viazma Catastrophe" is exceptionally great.
20 million of that 28 million were just civilians, women, children, the old and sick, murdered or caught in the cross fire, not soldiers.
I honestly don't know who the best soldiers were but of the hundreds of WW2 books iv.read this one called War on the Eastern Front, has a 25yo Waffen SS soldier precisely describing the wounded Russian soldiers after a battle. You wouldn't believe it if you read it yourself. This soldier who became a poet after the war couldn't believe what he was seeing.
Well made video! Really enjoyed this
Thank you 😊
On the eastern front the German lost over 2 million soldiers with another 2 million civilians and the red army lost at least 14 million KIA and another 3 million MIA, for a total of 17 million dead soldiers. This is a low estimate, as the figure of over 20 million dead soldiers has also been proposed. Total soviet losses are probably over 40 million.
On 14 February 2017 at a hearing of the Russian State Duma a presentation by legislator Nikolai Zemtsov, a member of the non-governmental organization Immortal regiment of Russia, maintained that documents of the now defunct Soviet Gosplan indicated that Soviet war dead were almost 42 million (19 million military and 23 million civilians). In 2017 the Russian historian Igor Ivlev put Soviet war dead at 42 million people (19.4 million military and 22.6 million civilians). According to Ivlev, Soviet State Planning Committee documents put the Soviet population at 205 million in June 1941 and 169.8 million for June 1945. Taking into account the 17.6 million births and 10.3 million natural deaths, leaving almost 42 million in war-related losses according to his research. The details of Ivlev's calculations were first announced at a parliamentary readings about the number of losses of the USSR during the Great Patriotic War.[78][79] Ivlev's figures are endorsed by the Russian civic organization Immortal Regiment and have been discussed in the Russian media recently.[13] Ivlev has published a summary of his arguments on the Russian website Demoscope Weekly. According to Ivlev's calculations based on the number of Soviet Communist party and Komsomol members conscripted, military dead and missing were 17.8 million. V. E. Korol-Korol estimated overall Soviet war dead at 46 million including military dead of 23 million. He claimed that the official figure of 8.7 million military dead was "groundless", based on battle accounts from across the Eastern Front. Korol held that the official figures of Krivosheev were an attempt to cover up the disregard for human life by the military leaders under Stalin. Korol cited Soviet authors writing during the Glasnost era that put wartime losses much higher than the official figures; In 1990 General I. A. Gerasimov published information from the Russian Military Archives database that put losses at 16.2 million enlisted men and 1.2 million officers. Korol also cited historian-archivist Iu. Geller who put losses at 46 million, including military dead of 23 million. and A.N. Mertsalov's estimate of 14 million military dead based on documents in the Russian Military Archives.
The mongol horde.
If it hadn't been for the usa and britain,the russians would have been speaking german today
@@michaelram3411 German would be the lingua franca (as it already was in science) and classical education would have been restored. FDR and his cabal were communists.
Where are you getting these numbers the Germans lost 5 and a half million soldiers and the Soviets lost 7-10 million although more around 6-7 million as half of the 6 million captured died
@@michaelram3411🐑🐑
20 Million civilians while the others were 8 million soldiers !
Great military leader Tukhachevsky ? Are you kidding ? He lost the war against Poland in 1920. His greatest achievement was the suppression of peasant revolt in Tambov area.
I’m not kidding, he was a very valuable asset to the soviet military, in Terms of tactics and thinking, no matter what your opinion is, Stalin killing him was a great mistake for the war.
Tukhachevsky created deep battles, he was a great strategist
@@IAmBeanz1 What is a definition of a deep battle ?
@@historyatwar Stalin's great mistake was Molotov-Ribbentrop . It created the border between Germany and USSR
Tukhachevksy was still extremely valuable and smart, killing him was a total mistake
Mind boggling the numbers
That's not why the germans gained so much territory during the intiital invasion. It's because they caught the soviets in a purely offensive position as the germans preemptively struck first
He said that? “The soviet armour build up in attacking Position at the border”
We did explain build up of armour in a offensive position, but it’s all a contributing fact. There is no one answer to why the Germans were able to gain so much, I believe it’s a mix of everything.
@@historyatwarIt's because the Germans took the Soviets by surprise, along with the fact that the Soviets were in a transition mode. It was also Stalin's hold-at-all-cost mentality which greatly contributed to the casualty figures on the Soviet side. Also, the Germans had numerical superiority at the points chosen for their armored thrusts. The Luftwaffe also greatly contributed to the high number of Soviet casualties as well. They destroyed most of the pre-war Soviet Air Force, mostly on the ground. The "Border Battles" was the only part of Operation Barbarossa that was actually pre-planned. Hitler, grossly underestimating the Soviets, thought the Soviets would've been defeated shortly thereafter. "We have only to kick in the door, and the whole, rotten edifice will come crashing down", was Hitler's famous saying. Upon the end of the Border Battles, the remainder of Operation Barbarossa was fought on a shoestring (on a tactical level).
It’s funny since not much has changed, we are seeing the same in Ukraine now
27 million? Much has changed
Yes, they seem to employ the same methods as they did in 41-45. But in the end they did go all the way to Berlin. Never underestimate the russian ability for absorbing suffering and come back stronger. Besides, Ukraine is a numbers game. Russia has a lot more bodies to feed into the meat grinder. The Ukrainians are so desperate, they are talking about consripting women. What's next, children?
Rusian brought women to the front lines
Ukraine should not be a country
Yes, the ukraine is using meat wave attacks against dug in Russian positions. That's why the ukraine is losing.
It's a question of quantity versus quality. And the former won.
Can you imagine if Germany didn't make the mistakes they made splitting their armies up and the winter warfare and if they had a few more million troops.. They may have actually won the WW2 if everything in Russia went how they wanted it too ahead of time before the US got fully involved..
I´m German, born ´79. One of my Grandfathers fight from ´41- ´mid ´44 eastern in Armouref SS-Div. till he lost both legs witch hat to that time cut of more times because of no Antibiotics WITHOUT Morphine- just "Moonshine". It´s very important to different betwen SS ; Waffen-SS ; SS-Polizei ; Einsatzgruppen.
He told me Bastards was most of Einsatzgruppen and ESPECIALLY "Kettenhunde" (MP) which behave like Superman but most killing helpless without Weapons in the "Etappe" (Area between Germany and HKL (Frontline) why the fighting Units call them "Etappenhengste" and ALL Fighters in Waffem-SS and Wehrmacht hated and disrespect them! But like the "Politkommisare" redside they was able to kill the Squads by will without serious Consequences by say "Feigheit vor dem Feind"
In Stalingrad for Example Paulus and the Organisationmembers of that Groups had allmost till End more than enough "zum Fressen" (Food) while the Fighters Eat their died Comrades.
The Kettenhunde killed till End now not anymore following Soldiers to Blackmail them running nearly without food, Weapons or Ammo into Death "obwohl" they had before heard the Speech from Germany the whole Army Already Died.
Today many Germans know Adolf learns like Anjelica Kazmierski to hate the REAL Germans at Tavistock Institute and loved like many of his faqr Left Socialists till end the "Bariloche" County in Patagonia like Hotel Eden!
If Hitler had waited 11 years with trade deals in military and scientific research and development and if he formed an alliance with both Facsist Portugal and Fascist Spain and used what remained of their colonies as secret bases for those advances, he would have begun the war by 1945 in which by then he would have an air fleet of jet fighter planes and jet bombers and already have several atomic bombs ready for use.
Problem with some more million men is logistics. They could barely supply the 3 initial million.
thanks to God they lost. The Nazi plan was once they won to genocide most Poles and Russians, keep some for slaves. Utter evil and the world gave a collective sigh when the Nazis were defeated.
Enjoyed you presentation immensely.
Thank you kindly!
Подобно тому как у бомжи не могут встроится в общество по причине отсутствия у них определенных социальных навыков, россияне не способны создать нормальное общество по причине исторически накопленных деффектов национального менталитета. Самым очевидным из этих дефектов есть полное недоверие друг к другу. Из века в век условные россияне живут по принципу, озвученному Солженициным : “Умри ты сегодна я я завтра”. По этой причине у обитателей этой территории начисто отсутвует способность к самоорганизации. От полной анархии россиян удерживает повсеместная покорность , из-за которой они способны терпеть любое спущенное сверху управление, каким бы преступным и некомпетентным оно бы не было
Tell me your Ukrainian without telling me your Ukrainian
I thank you for your great words!!! Because that we Germans say "Untermenschen". Not because they fundamental where, but they where made from regime to that!!!!! Poor people with simple mentality!!!
@@klxnone1014 Please just call me an "anthropologist".
@@helmuthaberkost4901 Thank you too. I understood the difference between Western mentality and Russian mentality while communicating with old Austrian veteran of 12th Waffen division. His name was Helmut Grossman. He passed away in 2020 age 94.
@@baruchspinoza3106 So you take what a a ww2 SS veteran said about there rivals the Soviets as completely true with no biases. The Soviets beat them and also he may just be a little racist against the Russians considering he’s in the SS your a idiot and I bet you think he was your friend to😂
“Stalin was nowhere to be found “ during the battle of Moscow ? Stalin was missing only for the first 2 weeks at the start of Barbarossa. Then he was in total control of the military. This fact is WW2 101. After this I couldn’t watch this video further.
Great to see the usual western Cold War tropes wheeled out again.
Let me guess, another pro soviet blaming causality and error figures on “Cold War Tropes”
No no, you are mistaken comrade.
More the entire timbre of the narrative, nothing positive to mention anywhere. One would suppose the soviets won despite themselves !
Awesome
You didnt mention that he killed those who surrendered after the war
We sure did, but it wasn’t really included as war casualties, many were thrown in the Gulags and would perish years later.
@@historyatwar I must have missed that part 🤔.
Superbious video, many thanks. 🙏🏻
the Germans massacred whole villages, that's how you get to those numbers. They also starved 2 million POW's to death.
Yes the creator is distorting reality.
The soviets are responsible for 80% of Germans combat deaths, that's a almost 2 Soviet soldiers for every German, this excludes: Finnish, Italians, Hungarians, Romanians, and countless from occupied states/volunteers. Germany had control of the most populous/industrial society: Western Europe. A 2:1 ratio make sense when the soviets were attacking for the majority of the war 1942(Late)-1945
@@Abdal-AZA i think the ratio is more in the area of 4:1 or 5:1. Russians like today putin sending men to slaughter. in the early phase of the war this was maybe neccessary because of the german advance, but later on it showed just russian mentality - just go head-on with overwhelming material support disgegarding human life (their own people). Stalin assessed rightly that this was a struggle for survival and acted accordingly. but in the end the sowjets (not russia) won and the winner takes it all. and despite i am german i think that this outcome is the right one. if germans had won the scale of murder would be much higher and i don't want to live in such a society.
@@FriedrichSchüsslerare you stupid.? The ratio that is widely agreed upon is 1:1.5 lol, maybe 1:2 at the highest.
Wonderful comment and so true!
Love the channel 💙
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There were three main reasons for this colossal loss of about 27 million Soviets. 1. The the Nazis had about 220 army divisions in WW2 and 200 of them were fighting at the Eastern Front ! Only about 20 divisions were fighting at the Western Front. Stalin refused to believe (due to their Soviet-Nazi Brest-Litovsk Treaty) that the Nazis were planning to attack in 1941 despite dire warnings by Richard Sorge, their chief Soviet spy in Berlin. 2. The Red Army was also decimated by Stalin's military purges of top officers from 1931 ~ 1937 like Mikhail Tukachevsky, etc.. Even the future, superb army Marshall Konstantin Rokossovssky, was jailed and beaten in the gulags. 3. The initial incompetence and of inexperienced Soviet Red Army generals from 1941~end 1942 who were not totally prepared to fight a huge war against the German onslaught together with many early inferior weapons like planes, tanks, artillery, etc. also caused these terrible losses.
The purges get way too much credit for the early Soviet defeats during Barbarossa. They did play a major part but equal to them was how the Germans were able to convince Stalin and the Soviet leadership that the main objectives of Barbarossa would be in the south through Ukraine which is where the Soviets put their best troops and set their strongest defense. They were not expecting for the spearhead to be with Army Group Center and headed to Moscow. The preparations in the south forced Hitler to divert forces needed tk take Moscow to the south in order to take Kiev. The Germans did the opposite in 1942 when the Soviets expected a continued attack towards Moscow and Hitler made the south and its resources the objective. Once Stalin finally realized Moscow wasn't going to be the objective he allowed the transfer of troops which led to the German defeat in Stalingrad and pushback in Little Saturn. The Germans massively underestimated the amount of troops, tanks, and field guns the Soviets possessed. The thought the Soviets would dismantle entire factories in the west and move them past the Urals also never crossed the minds of German leadership. Had they switched to the defense in 1941 instead of attempting to take Moscow probably would have set them up for a victory in the spring of 1942. The fact they attempted to take Moscow and hopefully win the war in 1941 set the stage for their loss. After losing a million men during Barbarossa the Germans had very little chance of an all out victory.
I whole heatedly agree, one of the contributing factor for soviet loss in 1941 was that the soviet army was far from ready to wage war, to the point that most units are severely under equipped and supplied even before the war, they where also no preparation for logistic bases and supply point for soviet units leading to the loss of most of their equipment since there are no maintenance or even resupply alocated after every battle, even the soviet infantry where more mobile than the motorized elements since the infantry had horses and the motorized have yet to receive any trucks, thou the purge and the disposition have played major roles in their defeat in 41, i think the fact that the red army was not ready for a war is what doomed them the most.
Historical notes:
Stalin said “Do not tell the people how many we lost, tell them how many we killed.”
Stalin convinced himself that he had literally a bottomless well of manpower to draw from. In 1937, the census bureau told him he did not. Every top and mid level manager was convicted of treason and shot. Their entire families went to the gulags never to return.
It was Stalin’s No Retreat orders that, time and again, spelled doom for entire armies and army groups. If, when he ordered a retreat, it was always too late.
Every photo and film clip from the Soviet Union had to be filtered by several layers of party officers, propaganda officers and NKVD intelligence officers before being released to the public. Every one. No exceptions.
This is why in most, soviet troops look well fed, clean, well armed and well dressed. It presented a total reverse of reality.
NKVD records show that Stalin was readying to invade Eastern Europe, especially Romania for its oil fields. That’s why the best soviet units were in their south west. Hitler caught them in preparation stages at the jumping off points. This was the reason for poor coordination between soviet armies and fronts.
Today, there are well known British authors of WWII who question deeply everything on the allied side, and discover secrets and little known facts. These same authors take soviet “records” as pure fact and never question them. They turn a blind eye to the reality of soviet propaganda.
Well hell is his home now
The most common figure for Red Army losses is around 11 million.
France had the luxury of surrendering and getting proper treatment from the germans, we did not have it. Our surrender would mean enslavement and total genocide. 28 million is a tremendous horrible price for freedom but it had to be paid. I am just glad my great grandfathers managed to survive it
If it hadn't been for the usa and britain,you russians would have been speaking german today
if ut wasnt for Russians and their sacrifice, we'd all bespeaking German. Brits would be erased. Sick of Brits and US taking all the credit. @@michaelram3411
@@michaelram3411 That would be a good thing
@@berserker4940 absolutly
@@michaelram3411 скоро ты будешь говорить по арабски
don't forget old men and boys who resisted until the end.
When the German army was retreating they used mine fields to slow the Russia units. So the Russians would use cattle horses and men either deserters penal units and traitors to clear the mines which amazed the Germans of the total disregard for casualties. Being sent in to battle with 3 men to one rifle and to few rounds of bullets so when the one with the gun was shot the next would pick up said gun and attack the Germans. The 3rd battle of Kharkov the stink of the dead was constant one German soldier recorded all ways in the nose.
we have a enemy at the gates historian on our hands
The three men to one rifle never happened. Soviet production of small arms, tanks and artillery was colossal. They were not lacking basic equipment. They were lacking tactical coordination and empathy from their commanders and political leadership.
@@republic0_032 Ah B*ow me look at the battle for Leningrad fool! It's in the History books or are you woke and history is a lie!
@@berserker4940yes it did at the start of the war. Many documentaries state it, as well from.many soldiers in the 41yr
@@Daveinstthomas5212 fake news
The Soviet/Russian war doctrine has always been best summarized by Lenin's statement of "Quantity has a quality all it's own." Meaning wear down your opponents through sheer force of numbers rather than any sort of respect for human life.
That's just a lie. The point of "quantity is a quality of it's own" is that if something isn't necessary the absolute best, but is easy to use/produce, reliable and gets the job done, then it's better than unwieldy "wonder weapons" that exist in singular exemplars and require constant maintenance to function.
@@kindlingkingyeah? And how’s that working out for the Russians, both in the past and now?
@@hisdudeness8328 very well actually. In shell production, for exactly, Russia outproduces NATO 3 to 1, russian tanks cost a fractions of NATO ones, while being actually more useful, reliable (remember challenger that got stuck in the mud ob test site?) and easy to produce. The issue here is that after looking at russian attempt to keep everything cheap and mass producible, westerners assume that their equipment is "quality > quantity" by default. But your tanks don't suddenly become high quality if you could only produce a couple of them for overprice, "quality" is something that proves it's worth in combat. Instead that means your production capacities are dogshit and you're dangerously unprepared for a real war. Like, for example, do you remember various western publications of 2022, where they said NATO had supplies for about 2 weeks of warfare of similar intensity as SMO? Or how right now western artillery shells cost 4 times more than russian ones? Is this also quality?
@@hisdudeness8328700k ukies gone almost 3 million wounded and Russia is not even at half of that quite well I say considering ukraine was always russian I would love to see our boys against them we can't tell what gender is anymore we even despise our own culture now blue voter??
The soviets were going to invade.
Are you repeating Goebbels' propaganda?
They did .
They set up lines of defense in Poland-
BABAROSSA started in Poland June 22 1941
With Mr Steelteeth you got me 🥶
The German army was that strong and thats what it took to beat them... They were the only ones who would tolerate that price and still are today, maybe the Chinesse would too...
Great video. Thank you.
I think that should finally end the argument on how the Soviets won the war. IT WAS NUMBERS!!!
Most definitely
if you learn history from youtube and mcdonalds advertisements - sure
Soviet mass industrial economics is what really beat the Germans!
Russian churning out good superior tanks and average aircrafts and good equipments and such was really the key, couple that with mass manpower of course and soviet organisation, a force that must not be underestimated at all!
The Lend lease act boosted it massively.
Soviet mismanagement by spineless officers who were more afraid of the NKVD then the Germans may very well have caused more Russian deaths then getting killed directly by the Germans.
No way in hell massive wave attacks would have caused that much casualties. Germans don't have enough amo on them to cause that much casualties!
And these mass wave attacks don't last that long to be able swallow up that many men.
Numbers and improvement of tactics
Not just numbers but the tonnage of U.S. Lend-Lease aid, and their industrial capacity as well. The Soviets eventually had enough of everything Germany lacked. Fuel, motor vehicles of all types, planes of all types, proper winter clothing, etc. It was as much of a war of logistics as it was the replacement of front line and rear echelon personnel. The German Heer (Army) had problems with replacements from the outset.
Thanks for the videos
So little people know anything in comments. And this video is very much inadequate.
Go on Internet Historian, tell what really happened, why were there so many deaths?
@@LexTomas-jl1lf there is way too many internet historian wehraboos in these comments.
@@parallax9084 that’s what I thought, how so? All I see is people interested in history, nothing is inappropriate
Good work my anglo Saxon brother from across the pond. End brother wars
They lost so many and still rose from the ground up and drove the Germans back to Berlin, the greatest *"they had us in the first half"* in History.
Just a comment to keep the algorithm going. 👍🏻
How the hell did they field so many men? Germany wins without all the western support.
Forced conscription. Stalin reopened the churches and engaged in massive nationalist patriotic propaganda once Moscow was threatened. Few were willing to kill and die for the Soviet project. Many more were willing to kill and die for God and Russia.
Great song. Mournful and haunting
I've always believed Russia lost thirty eight million souls during world war two but to listen to the Jewish you'd think they suffered the worst...
They definitely suffered. They were targeted worse then any other group bye the Nazis. Really an ignorant way to think bro. As if it matters who suffers more or not.... I don't think the victims that died really care if they other people that died had it worse then them or not.
Your forgetting the Jews were not combatants they were civilians and totally disempowered and no rights. In truth were no threat to Germany however AH and his Nazi minions used them as scapegoats for his ethic cleansing so in away they were made to suffer unfairly.
Not to mention that the Jews weren't fellow combatants- they were innocent civilians, murdered for being JEWS, not soldiers
The point being made is the Russian people lost millions but we are told over and over that the six million Jewish deaths is somehow more tragic.The Russians lost at least 27,000,000 people.
The numbers......
The Good guys lost the war unfortunately.
Even Patton discovered that fact once the war was over. -"We defeated the wrong enemy."
Concentration camps gas Chambers and mass murder.Good guys?????????????
Every last eastern front memoir I have ever read about all hated that dreaded "ohhhh raaaah"
В своем знаменитом интервью 1959 года Карл Юнг, на вопрос журналиста о роли Гитлера в коллективном бессознательном немцев, обьяснил, что фюрер воспринимался как мифологический герой из древних тевтонских мифов. А теперь представтьте степень ущербности народца, в подсознании которого роль героя занимает тщедушное, гнусненькое, постоянно врущее и ходящее по большому на чемодан существо с поросячьми глазками ?
Soviets had 6.8m KIA/DOW/MIA and about 2-3m POWs killed,Axis on the Eastern Front had about 4.7m KIA/DOW/MIA and 500k POW died or killed in captivity
Couldn't help but notice a whole lot of tiny hats in the photos of soviet higher ups.
Soviet Bolshevism is a Jewish creation.
Fits the tiny heads with tiny brains.
@@MR-tp5pc sad but true.
Interesting set of comments that provide a different view of the war in Russia to that more usually offered. Historians will continue to debate the Soviet Union and WW2 for many years to come.
KGB 1954 till 1991 it didnt exist 1937
Truth it was the nkvd... A group of nasty nasty people
Nkvd
As a Russian your way of telling these numbers was very straight forward as if Russian (Soviets) leaders, commanders and soldiers didn't cared about human live while ignoring the fact that most deaths were civilians and prisoners not the direct conflicts...
I'm not saying that I counted and know the real numbers, but the losses stated by you are either misinterpreted or mistranslated because of information war by both sides does
Losses (Deaths and Captured) suffered by the Soviets are around 10.8 million (9.3 million deaths and pow death + 1.5 million remaining prisoners) while Axis suffered 9.3 million (5.4 deaths + 3.9 million remaining prisoners) which is not a bad ratio when seeing the losses in 1941
Causalities (Deaths, Missing, Captured and Wounded) amounted at 24-27 million for Soviets and 15-18 million for Axis
I hope you understand what I mean
Hi. I have read that Soviet dead is 8.6 million, and the total combat casualty ratio is 1:1.4
Is this true?
The Russians have never cared about each other. Just some vague concept of the Motherland.
Great video, but please review the prose, as there is a lot of repetition. Repetition matches the video, lots of repetition, it could succinctly be less than half the running length.
And NO the soviet wouldn't win if the allies didnt come.
to sum up,If it hadn't been for the usa and britain,the russians would have been speaking german today
The us and british came into the war in 1943 when russia was allreading winning the war . 85% of the war was between RUSSIA and GERMAN. For most of the war the british and the U.S were bench warmers.sitting on the sidelines.
The U.S. and british intered the war in 1943 when the R USSIA was winning the war, pushing the germans back .the americans and british became brave ,After the war was all most over.85% of the war was between RUSSIA and GERMANY.
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So wrong.
My grandfather was taken to forced labour to Reich in 1942 ,then in late 1943 he was coming back home he got into fight with drunk German,they put him into concentration camp. In the end of 1944 Soviets "liberated" the camp and enrolled him into the Strafbatalion. He went trough the rest of war along with Belarusian front . He even got promoted to corporal. After all those years he claimed he was better off and safer in concentration camp.
To lose 28 million and still come out on top crazy
Why, when calculating the loss ratio, do they forget to mention that a huge part of the losses of the USSR are not military losses, but the result of genocide? Why are Soviet collaborators considered Soviet losses, if at the time of death they were armed against the USSR? Why do they forget about the huge share of Germany's allies? Why do we hear about the ratio of losses of 1 to 2 and 1 to 1.3, but not 1 to 1, which in fact was the case.
28,000,000 military losses is a good estimate by David Glantz. David Glantz had access to the Soviet archives and that's where all his information came from. He is the most respected historian/author on the German/Soviet war. I've read the majority of his books and all of them are exceptional. He cites all sources from which his statistical figures are calculated. The ratio was 1:19; 19 Soviets for every German.