After living with two Sig Sauer We The People 1911 .177 for a year, first one, then the second, contracted the dreaded CO2 dump affliction in both magazines. While there can be multiple reasons for such malfunctions, on my two examples I found just one, and found it could be mitigated by simply preventing that CO2 cylinder from turning while you tighten. Did you ever notice how your CO2 cylinder sometimes spins with every twist as you tighten it to pierce? Why is that important? The piercing valve at the top of the magazine is counter-threaded, (righty-loosey, lefty-tighty). So when you tighten the CO2 against the piercing valve, as it is pushed against it hard, it has a tendency to actually turn the valve itself slightly. Especially if you properly lube the top of an occasional CO2 with a drop of Pellgun Oil like you should, to keep the O-rings, seals and valves in shape. Counter-intuitively, unlike a brand-new unlubricated gun in which the tip of the CO2 "grabs" the dry white (in my magazines it's white, could be green in yours), seal as it's getting pierced, mostly preventing it from turning even if you don't tightly hold it, a properly lubricated setup may not "grab" as well and spin. Don't think skipping the lube is a solution... that white seal really DOES need to be lubricated to prevent it drying out over time. Thus, as time goes by, CO2 cylinders eventually spin REALLY easily as you tighten to pierce them. It's surprising just how hard you then have to grip it to stop it from turning inside the magazine as you do. As you tighten and pierce the CO2 and it spins clockwise while you're doing it, trust me that cylinder is pushing hard against the piercing valve seal, which it will inevitably turn clockwise too, loosening it, if only just a little. As once was famously said, a little got more and more... PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT! Worst part of all this is that it's darn near impossible to find a valve key (like the one that you got in the re-build kit!), that will fit within the confines of my empty magazines which would allow me to simply and easily just tighten that damn valve, leaving you to use flathead screwdrivers and the like, potentially damaging the needle or valve itself while not being able to really tell just how tight you got it. I eventually took some online advice I saw, carefully UNSCREWED THE PIERCING VALVE, removed and cleaned the o-ring or (replace it if you have one), cleaned the threads and put the o-ring back on, silicone lubed it all, then WRAPPED PLUMBERS TAPE AROUND THE WHOLE THING, both the mounted o-ring and threads, before COUNTER-CLOCKWISE screwing the assembly back in as tightly as I could with no valve key. Another drop of Pellgun oil to top a new CO2, and tighten. While I got a quick sputter it immediately became silent - it held air! Since then, even leaving a full CO2 loaded for weeks or even months has caused me no ill effects as long as I kept the white piercing-valve seal "hydrated", kept from drying out. And following these instructions. So as a preventative measure, if you grab your CO2 tightly while getting loaded. you'll probably always have a nice day!
Wow really helpful comment, appreciate that one, on the shadow 2 the cylinder is barely visible not sure if i would be able to hold it butt for sure it does make sense and I will try to do it from now one 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙏
One thing I've noticed is that the included o-rings sometimes aren't the right material to handle the low temperature. Swapping them out for higer end ones along with using silicone grease helps alot.
Great instructional video brother. Lots of people wouldn't bother with this 5 minute fix, and just order an entirely new magazine......... for $45 !! Not cheap, and likely cost more than a real steel mag !
So far thats one of the best CO2 Airsoft pistol i have seen. Literally I love it, there is only one issue with the spring guide spacer but that is manageable and easy to fix, you can check my other videos on it. I use only silicone spray and silicone grease for all my Airsoft pistols:)
I got the key In a local store it was pretty hard to find it btw. Really depends where are u from and how long you can wait for o rings try airsoftzone.com or redwolf airsoft or evike.com
Can anyone help me maybe ? Today i bought an co2 pistol GBB 4.5mm first 3 co2 cartridges worked fine.. but with the number 4, the power behind the shots is low and the blowback does not have enough power to fully come back and cock the hammer for the next shot... i tried installing a new co2 cartridge but the same thing happend again??? Can someone help me?
Hmm I can just speculate but few things are popping in my mind you could check : 1 ) make sure you tighten the CO2 bottle nicely - I had a case where I did not tighten it hard enough, and the bottle was not opened enough, eg the throat of it was 1/3 opened only when inserted. 2) the slide does not cycle close fully, even a few inches can result i lost compression and lost co2 - for that one observe it manually when reloading does it move freely does it close all the way without issue. If you feel something is stopping it you need to disassemble it and investigate what/where is the cause. 3 ) check the magazine manually apply pressure on the valve and see does it release the gas in high pressure via the gasket. 4)Take a look at the trigger mechanism, I am not really familiar with the triggers but it could be something obvious that need a repair/replacement
Did you try to lube it - as in the video? Could be damaged O-rings - you can check for replacement one - just make sure they are for that model exactly. The last resort is a new magazine :/
After living with two Sig Sauer We The People 1911 .177 for a year, first one, then the second, contracted the dreaded CO2 dump affliction in both magazines. While there can be multiple reasons for such malfunctions, on my two examples I found just one, and found it could be mitigated by simply preventing that CO2 cylinder from turning while you tighten. Did you ever notice how your CO2 cylinder sometimes spins with every twist as you tighten it to pierce?
Why is that important? The piercing valve at the top of the magazine is counter-threaded, (righty-loosey, lefty-tighty). So when you tighten the CO2 against the piercing valve, as it is pushed against it hard, it has a tendency to actually turn the valve itself slightly. Especially if you properly lube the top of an occasional CO2 with a drop of Pellgun Oil like you should, to keep the O-rings, seals and valves in shape.
Counter-intuitively, unlike a brand-new unlubricated gun in which the tip of the CO2 "grabs" the dry white (in my magazines it's white, could be green in yours), seal as it's getting pierced, mostly preventing it from turning even if you don't tightly hold it, a properly lubricated setup may not "grab" as well and spin. Don't think skipping the lube is a solution... that white seal really DOES need to be lubricated to prevent it drying out over time. Thus, as time goes by, CO2 cylinders eventually spin REALLY easily as you tighten to pierce them. It's surprising just how hard you then have to grip it to stop it from turning inside the magazine as you do. As you tighten and pierce the CO2 and it spins clockwise while you're doing it, trust me that cylinder is pushing hard against the piercing valve seal, which it will inevitably turn clockwise too, loosening it, if only just a little. As once was famously said, a little got more and more... PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT!
Worst part of all this is that it's darn near impossible to find a valve key (like the one that you got in the re-build kit!), that will fit within the confines of my empty magazines which would allow me to simply and easily just tighten that damn valve, leaving you to use flathead screwdrivers and the like, potentially damaging the needle or valve itself while not being able to really tell just how tight you got it. I eventually took some online advice I saw, carefully UNSCREWED THE PIERCING VALVE, removed and cleaned the o-ring or (replace it if you have one), cleaned the threads and put the o-ring back on, silicone lubed it all, then WRAPPED PLUMBERS TAPE AROUND THE WHOLE THING, both the mounted o-ring and threads, before COUNTER-CLOCKWISE screwing the assembly back in as tightly as I could with no valve key.
Another drop of Pellgun oil to top a new CO2, and tighten. While I got a quick sputter it immediately became silent - it held air! Since then, even leaving a full CO2 loaded for weeks or even months has caused me no ill effects as long as I kept the white piercing-valve seal "hydrated", kept from drying out. And following these instructions.
So as a preventative measure, if you grab your CO2 tightly while getting loaded. you'll probably always have a nice day!
Wow really helpful comment, appreciate that one, on the shadow 2 the cylinder is barely visible not sure if i would be able to hold it butt for sure it does make sense and I will try to do it from now one 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙏
good video, fixed it for me as well
Glad it helped🙌🏻🫶
One thing I've noticed is that the included o-rings sometimes aren't the right material to handle the low temperature. Swapping them out for higer end ones along with using silicone grease helps alot.
Love to hear that, I will upgrade them eventually thx for the advice 🙌🏻
Thank you for this. I just had this probmel with my Beretta Umarex magazine. I did what you suggested and it fixed the issue.
Glad it helped:))
Great instructional video brother. Lots of people wouldn't bother with this 5 minute fix, and just order an entirely new magazine......... for $45 !! Not cheap, and likely cost more than a real steel mag !
Hello there, question, how are you satisfied with the pistol so far? And what are you using to protect your Shadow 2, some grease or?
So far thats one of the best CO2 Airsoft pistol i have seen. Literally I love it, there is only one issue with the spring guide spacer but that is manageable and easy to fix, you can check my other videos on it. I use only silicone spray and silicone grease for all my Airsoft pistols:)
Great! Thanks for your time and the answers! It was helpful! @@yordanyordanov8085
Wrong google account on my response, but that was me, sorry :)
Where did you get that valve key? Also do you know of any sites where I can get replacement O-rings?
I got the key In a local store it was pretty hard to find it btw. Really depends where are u from and how long you can wait for o rings try airsoftzone.com or redwolf airsoft or evike.com
@@airsoftsharks thanks!
Why my CZ shadow 2 use green gas and not CO2?
The platform works with both, look like you bought it with the gas magazine.
Just buy one CO2 magazine and you are good to go.
What clock are you using?
Clock?
@@airsoftsharks Sorry, watch/arm clock (translation error)
Can anyone help me maybe ?
Today i bought an co2 pistol GBB 4.5mm first 3 co2 cartridges worked fine.. but with the number 4, the power behind the shots is low and the blowback does not have enough power to fully come back and cock the hammer for the next shot... i tried installing a new co2 cartridge but the same thing happend again???
Can someone help me?
Hmm I can just speculate but few things are popping in my mind you could check :
1 ) make sure you tighten the CO2 bottle nicely - I had a case where I did not tighten it hard enough, and the bottle was not opened enough, eg the throat of it was 1/3 opened only when inserted.
2) the slide does not cycle close fully, even a few inches can result i lost compression and lost co2 - for that one observe it manually when reloading does it move freely does it close all the way without issue. If you feel something is stopping it you need to disassemble it and investigate what/where is the cause.
3 ) check the magazine manually apply pressure on the valve and see does it release the gas in high pressure via the gasket.
4)Take a look at the trigger mechanism, I am not really familiar with the triggers but it could be something obvious that need a repair/replacement
With my gun, it holds the gas, but when you shoot it, no bullets come out, and the gas inside all just comes out at the same time
I’m Having the same problem
Did you try to lube it - as in the video?
Could be damaged O-rings - you can check for replacement one - just make sure they are for that model exactly.
The last resort is a new magazine :/