A few of the best Bokeh Lenses - Under 50mm - M42
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ค. 2024
- This video takes a look at some of the best vintage under 50mm wide angle lens for producing great bokeh.
It is part of a series of videos covering under 50mm lenses, 50mm lenses, 55-58mm lenses and over 58mm lenses.
I found wide angle the hardest focal length to cover, and it's quite limited in scope - for two reasons:
1. Bokeh is not such a major consideration in wide angle compositions
2. In my experience, one lens stands head and shoulders above the rest, when it comes to ranking great bokeh.
So I've not included a discussion of some of the excellent wider angle lenses - that are occasionally capable of extremely quirky bokeh - but whose strengths lie elsewhere.
Please post any suggestions on alternative choices below.
My photos with all these (and other) lenses can be seen in albums here:
www.flickr.com/photos/9585957...
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Nice work once again, Simon. You have long been striking my LBA chords within regarding the A-T35. What a magical lens especially in your masterful hands. Thanks for doing these vids.
Thank you for your kind words.
Really enjoy your way of presenting these videos. One thing I would add that could be a focus is the Takumar 28mm f/3.5 at close focus distance. That and the 200mm f/3.5 are by far my favorite lenses ever used to take close-ups of leaves and organic compositions. In particular, the light quality caught by this lens as the sun shines through leaves, and the ability of twigs and branches to melt away is nothing short of magic. It brings a smile to my face every time I see it, and I highly recommend that lens. Also, when stopped down for cityscapes, it produces excellent 10 points of light!
video and comments are really full of useful information. thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
My manual Lens ist: Helios 44 2/58mm, Takumar 55mm f/1.8 Pentacon 135mm f/2.8 👍 Canon EOS 80D
Excellent
That's so interesting, thank you very much 🤝
thereis the meyeroptik/pentacon 35mm/3 with interesting bokeh too. Another interesting lens I found was the canon fl 35/2.5
Hello. Thank you for information, very helpful for me. :)
Thanks for this. I guess the options out there as far as lenses to try is endless. Interesting effects in the main choice of lense you went for. Have you tried any of the Voiglander 35mm for bokeh, their size is very appealing I guess when it comes to wandering the street all day with a camera in hand. Thanks again
thank you!
Thank you for this! Very helpful! You probably hear this all the time but you sound almost exactly like Christopher Hitchens.
before this video i dont even know this lens exist
How do you reverse the front element of the Auto-Takumar 35mm f2.3? I don’t see notches on the front ring to use a spanner to unscrew it?
have a look at the Minolta Rokkor 35mm f2 (or f2.8) and the Konica AR 40mm f1.8
I will! Thank you.
Really enjoying your videos and l find myself now a bit obsessed with the idea of trying vintage lenses. Because of your comments and the "Zenography" (TH-cam) comments about the Carl Zeiss Jena 35mm Flektogon, l convinced myself that l had to have one! Disappointingly when l searched on eBay, l found that they are quite expensive and not many f2.4 's available at all. The 2.4's are even more expensive but according to research this one is supposed to be better &has a closer focussing distance. Being pretty new to vintage lenses (l don't even have one yet!), and considering the expense, l thought l should go back and check out images from this lens on Flickr and l have to say, l find myself being a bit underwhelmed by them, considering that this lens is supposed to be legendary. It is no use looking at the "group" on Flickr because this has unfortunately been extensively carpet bombed by one member ( l think admin has gone awol). I find myself wondering is it so good because of resolving power, bokeh quality or something else? I get the close focussing distance but can't find many images using this to advantage.
Anyway, it would be great to see a video on this lens on why it is so good &comparisons of the f2.8, f2.4& zebra models.
Thank you! And thanks for visiting my Flickr stream as well. You made me smile with your account of your CZJ Flektagon deliberations. I've had precisely the same thoughts. I decided I had to have one, and it had to be the f2.4. Because of the cost, I kept looking at other people's photos with the lens. And also reading comments about how nice the rendering and bokeh is close up, but also (given I've not seen so many absolutely 'wow' images especially at infinity) comments from people who said it was over-rated.
Years ago I purchased a digital 35mm macro lens (a Pentax DA 35mm Macro) that I like and use a lot, and I keep thinking..."what is the Flektagon really going to add?" So the lens has been near the top of my wish list for a long time, but I've never actually submitted even a low on-line bid on one!
One big fan of the lens who has a very interesting collection of vintage lenses, and has posted a lot of shots from his version worth seeing is here - www.flickr.com/photos/pepperberryfarm/albums/72157711611563161 Don't know whether this will help or not!!!!
@@SimonsutakSo interesting that you had similar thoughts. I did actually order one from Bulgaria, but the seller found that he could not post to Australia because of the pandemic (not sure of the reasoning) so l got a refund. Think maybe it wasn't meant to be & l'll just try out what l've ordered so far ...the Pentacon 50mm F1.8, the Helios 44-2 and the Pentax K 135mm. It will be a bit of fun anyway.
I recently bought a Flektogon 35mm f2.8. It's the second version from 1961-1962. It has a fault in the aperature mechanism, but is in otherwise pristene condition. Probably the mechanism slipped out (there's a lever and a slot - I'll spare you the details) but quite an easy fix, and never used again after.
The image of these older f2.8 lenses (4 iterations) are quite nice, and so is my copy. It's a bit slower and doesn't have multi coatings, but the build quality and the glass is excellent. Perhaps better than the much later produced f2.4 version, which has plastic parts inside.
I think the one that is easiest to service and also focusses down to an impressive 16 cm (for macro shots with a wide angle!) is the "zebra" version (clear and black pattern on the aluminium focussing and aperature rings)
These were around 30 euros, some years ago, but now hover around 100 for a good one.
But, there are many more great 35mm lenses not shown here. I bought a Yashica Yashinon 35mm (late sixties) f2.8 for 50$ on ebay. It's lovely.
So... don't go for the most hyped lenses, there are undiscoverd treasures out there. Good luck!
try fujinon ebc 1.9/35mm
The Mir 24 (35mm f2) is a lens I recently obtained...not used it extensively but I do like it so far...not the color pop of the Flektogon 35...more like a Helios 44...need to use it more...have you used it?
No I've not used it...but a friend emailed me and wondered why I hadn't got it/mentioned it, as he likes it very much! It's on my wish list!
i'd be interested in an vid on the 50mm or wider non bokeh 42 mounts, like the ones you mentioned around 2:30 , i gotten into photography at the start of this year (2020) as i got an M50 for my 50th.
i predominantly shoot wildlife in the 400-800mm range and macro, i also love creative studio work too.
but i would like to find a lens that is wide with a vast depth of field, and yes i liove the vintage lenses for their bokeh's too.
Laura
I'm going to post a video on wider angle lenses...but not sure precisely when! I'll let you know when I do this. The Takumars between 20mm and 35mm are reasonable value. The M42 Carl Zeiss Jenas tend to be more expensive but good optically. In other mounts there's a good choice of vintage wider angle lenses (35mm or under), and a good value one is the the Vivitar 28mm close focus (various models) - for more creative work.
Hi Simon, for the Auto Takumar 35mm F2.3, how did u flip the front element to swirl the Bokeh? Went to your Flickr to see them myself and its really amazing. I had to order one on ebay!
Hi! I simply unscrewed the front part of the lens (no lens spanner required) and flipped the front glass element. It's really simple. You'll need to do quite a lot of post processing to bring out the details in the effects...but they will be there! Good luck! And if you can please let me know if you share the results and where I can see them.
@@Simonsutak Thanks Simon! Just a question, after u unscrew the front part how to u get the lens out?
I suggest three lenses that could also fit into this.
Takumar 35mm f/2
Soligor C/D 35mm f/2 P
Petri 28mm f/2
They should all come in m42 I believe, at least the first two do. Can't confirm the Petri since it's quite rare.
Maybe you could test those someday?
Cheers.
Many thanks for these suggestions. I know the Takumar but not the other two. Petri lenses have a reputation for interesting bokeh - and my first 'proper' camera was a Petri!
@@Simonsutak No problem. I can personally say that the Soligor has great color rendering, almost like a modern lens. It's not very sharp wide open though, but cleans up nicely when stopped down. I owned one briefly but it was extremely decentered so I had to return it.
More glass = more better , and that lens certainly has a lot of glass.
Checkout the Flickr page for the Steinheil Auto-Quinaron 35 mm f/ 2.8 Lens. Wow!
Are you familiar with that lens?
Thanks for the tip. I did take a look at the lens on-line, and love the flares, but decided (rightly or wrongly) that the Auto-Takumar 35mm f2.3 was even more interesting.
@@Simonsutak yes I’ve come to the same conclusion since I made that comment. I’ve watched all your videos on m42 lenses (and created a list merged with recommendations from others) and decided I’m going to stick with Carl Zeiss, Takumar, Helios, Jupiter, Mir, and Tair lenses I already own.
Question: What’s your recommendation (best value either full frame or crop) for the best mirrorless camera solely for the purpose of using vintage lenses on? I don’t plan on buying the brand lenses for whatever camera I choose as I’m a die-hard Nikon guy and already have the D700, D3X and FE and the relevantly significant lenses along with them.
I will donate to whatever method you choose for this advice.
are the other 35mm m42 mount lenses just not worth any effort?
Personally, I prefer to use auto-focus, modern digital lenses as walk around lenses at 35mm. But that's just my personal taste. Plus, most of the old 35mm lenses I've tried haven't really impressed me much.
Please tell me some good 3D pop vintage lenses.Thanks!
A recent lens I've be using that has a good 3D pop (after processing) is the Zenitar M 50/1.7.
@@Simonsutak thanks man, thanks for your answer!God bless you!
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