Ilyushin Il-2 Sturmovik: The Flying Tank
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Hey pilot fact boy. Do you know Lucas and his daily Dose of aviation?
Sounds like we are running out of "Mega" projects, time to get back to Space?
Or maybe Iceland's Geo-Thermal heating, its currently a thing.
Or maybe the factory in the Amazon that had to travel across two oceans to get there?
If you want to stick to thngs that fly, how about the US Navy Blimps of WW2 and especially the Hangers they had to build to house them in. That was a BIG one.
The things people will do to not eat kale...
Simon, it's a very good video (at least in my personal opinion). Since even you (in all your glory 😉) cannot be an expert at everything, please allow me to enlighten you on one minor little detail; the concept of a dedicated ground attack all metal monoplane actually arose over a decade earlier than stated.
The German Junkers company had begin testing all metal monoplane combat aircraft as early as 1916, with an all metal biplane for ground attack entering service that same year, and an all metal monoplane for ground attack was introduced at the start of 1918.
The US began investigating the possibility of acquiring all metal monoplanes for ground attack by looking at the Junkers-Larsen JL-12 in 1921, which was armed with 28 downward firing guns, but it proved to be unsuccessful and was not adopted for service use.
My buddies who flew A-10s used a tactic call “Circle the Hogs” similar to the “Circle of Death “ tactic described in the video.
They Circled the Wagons in frontier days too.
The circular tactic of closing with, and taking your best shot at the enemy, then peeling off to guard the retreat of your cohort ahead of you, dates at least back Saladin and the Arabian Horsemen he commanded against the Crusaders. Done right, the sustained level of attack and low casualty rate makes it hard to beat. Another nom de guerre it has is the "Pain Train."
7:15 different variants carried VYa-23, ShVAK or NS-37 cannons and rear machine gun could be 12.7mm UBT or 7.62mm ShKAS. My grandad was a gunner on IL-2.
Having studied the IL-2 quite a bit in my time as a WWII keyboard historian, I was quite interested to see if you came up with similar information to what I have found over the years. I am glad to say, that after watching the video, what I already knew matched quite well with what you found, even most of the stories matched. Well, done. We're either both correct, or both equally wrong.
I love flying the IL-2 in the simulator sharing its name and as such have done what I can to learn about it. Accounts of how it was used and how effective those uses were seem to match in the simulator. Although having the ability to learn from my own "deaths" does somewhat improve my effectiveness, it also helps the enemy, so that should balance out.
IL2 Sturmovik for PC, such a great game back in the day. =D
Ah, the Warthog's Russian granddaddy. The Sturmovik is a cool plane. It may not be elegant but it did its job in a very Russian fashion.
Well said
I would like to see a video on the RC-135 series spy planes. They are pretty unknown but still to this day in use and important.
Is it the successor to the sr71 black bird
@@yeetyeet5079 successor to the SR-71 was probably a drone
@@ryandoyle4357 satellites
Will check it out! Thanks :)
@@shaunvduke ok
What a game IL -2 was
@MusicMaster1987 it had no right being this good 😂😂
Many people for some reason don't realize that main edge of IL-2 was production quantity. No matter how much armor you get, you won't become invincible. But when there's tens of thousands of CAS planes available they can actually do their job even if you can't get a reliable air superiority or hope for someone to destroy AAA for you first. And as bad as losing IL-2 may be and as bad as it sounds, it's just 2 men. And if they did their job, they could have potentially saved hundreds if not thousands of infantrymen below them who had a tank headed for them or were bombarded by artillery or would be assaulted by fresh enemy forces unless you destroy this truck column or so many more things that could have gone wrong for them. So as bad as some people believe(usually erroneously) things like T-34, IL-2 or ZiS-3 to be, you'd be extremely happy to have them around.
All true... but... thank fuck I was born a yank and fought in the 21st Century... proud disciple of the greatest religion of all Grunts the world over, the Gospel of BRRRRRRRT. A-10... Best. CAS. Aircraft. Ever.
@@MickeyKraut419 Well, since A-10 is the modern outlook on the same idea as IL-2, you can understand then how important were these aircraft to men on the ground.
03:59 - That dude is just chill AF.. 'Ohh I appear to have crashed! I'll just hold on, things will be fine!' 🤣
Yes, Stalin may have been the greatest motivational speaker in history.
He makes extremely persuasive remarks.
Other than my favorite Austrian painter
@@warisintricate yea, I was gonna say. That one Austrian dude sure knew how to get a mass of people rallied behind the craziest things. I forget his name tho...
Hitler wins that one. Stalin just killed a bunch of people that didn’t listen.
Yes it is curious how threats of incomprehensible suffering can light a fire under one's ass
One has to wonder if the person delivering Stalin's telegraph to the factory managers said "The emperor is not as forgiving as i am"
Thanks
sideprojects idea: the largest guns ever fitted/fired from planes. there's at the very least some prototypes with guns as big as like 100mm or so, might be 103, but idk what was ever built/fired.
There is a 105 on the hurc, and aversion of the b-25 had a 75
AC-130 105mm howitzer
It's really ironic that War Thunder is where I was made familiar with this craft. I'd love to see you guys cover an episode on any of the sea of Simon shows you guys make on tank destroyers from start to modern day! Been saving up in War Thunder on my Russian tank crews for an ISU 152 and I'm ready to see how much destruction over 150mm of thicc tnt shell can rip through other tanks! Cheers!
Simon, you've found a new gear here. Your videos are always informative and engrossing, but your delivery here is adding a level of drama and intrigue that propels this piece to a dizzying height, far beyond that of a docu-short.
3:00 - Chapter 1 - The flying tank
3:50 - Chapter 2 - Origins
6:30 - Chapter 3 - Specs
8:05 - Chapter 4 - Production
9:30 - Chapter 5 - Sturmovik in combat
10:30 - Chapter 6 - Changing tactics
13:20 - Chapter 7 - Rear gunners
15:20 - Chapter 8 - Air to air combat
16:15 - Chapter 9 - Notable Il2 pilots
The Ilyushin II-2 "Sturmovik" was the most produced fighter aircraft of all time at over 36,000 Units being produced and over 42,000 if you include later successor variants. One of the problems with the aircraft was that it was very heavy due to the protective armour plates which covered most of the front portion of the aircraft making it the most survivable aircraft in existence up to that point. Unfortunately, like an aircraft used the same way on the German side (The JU-87 "Stuka") it was not only heavy, but slow as it was woefully underpowered. Had the II-2 Sturmovik been equipped with a more powerful engine, it would have been a force to be reckoned with, although it was no slouch in any way, shape, or form. In the hands of a skilled pilot, it was one of the most devastating ground attack aircrafts of WWII. It was the "A-10" Warthog of WWII.
3:16 that alone is extraordinary, imagine literal Tens of thousands of these planes on Berlin, Kursk, and invasion of Manchuria.
Hey, it would be nice to see Sukhoi SU-47 with its back-flipped wings!
I don't even think they've done a video on the X-29. I'd love to see the pair.
one thing you got wrong ; the wooden outer wing panels are actually heavier than the metal ones.
the soviet union at the time did not have as advanced an infrastructure to make more of these
outer wing panels.
Aluminum sheets were imported from the USA and Canada for use in the Shturmovik.
the rest was well done (and some good movie footage , too) Have a nice day !
My fave soviet aircraft, love flying it in War Thunder
Typical weeb.
So you have no experience with them at all?
@@owenshebbeare2999 Well, lets see... I was born in the mid-70s, not in the 20s or 30s, so... no I dont have experience flying a *real* Il-2. I dont have experience flying *any* aircraft for that matter. what a stupid question
Have you tried the IL-2 sim series? Much more realistic than an arcade game like War Thunder. I mean ... the original sim is twenty years old now and was instantly legendary. Check out the newest version ... modern graphics, even more to do, very accurate damage modeling etc. If you want a real challenge (almost like DCS), you'll thank me.
@@flexyco Sounds pretty great; I suck at actual simulations, but I might look into it regardless
I would love to see a video on the F-15 with it's many variants. The Strike eagle version of this plane has one A-A kill and is was made with a 2,000 pound bomb.
Claims by IL 2 pilots of tanks and other vehicles, including ships, destroyed were fanciful at best. Even experienced Typhoon pilots had a success rate of less than 10%. German pilots had little difficulty in shooting these planes down, despite their amour protection. Erich "Bubi " Hartmann described how he would silence the rear gunner and then shoot out the oil coolers mounted under each wing. The IL2's engine would sieze shortly thereafter and the aircraft would crash when the pilot bailed out. He was very scornful of the quality of the Russian pilots who would sometimes fly themselves into the ground after having been briefly shot at. He once returned from a mission, having downed two IL2's, and the ground crew found that he had only fired 10 cannon rounds and so didn't bother to rearm the guns.Still, the success the IL2's did have was due to the numbers produced and not to any particular usefullness. Nice video.
Re the Il-2 ''circle of death", apparently F-111F's used similar tactics in Desert Storm, where they used LGB's to destroy Iraqi amour from medium altitude.
The best idea for Megaprojects: the russian network of trolls.
Should do a video on the best ground attack planes, sturmovik,typhoon,thunderbolt,stuka and a japanese one
What's a "gallon"? If you are going to use outdated units of measure without the metric equivalent being displayed, why not use the "peck" or "cord-foot"?
A guide to imperial units.
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Just remember a hogshead is roughly half a barrel and one rod is 40 feet and you're good to go!
@@MichaelEricMenk Just remember that US cave-man units are outliers: your gallons and pints differed from everyone elses: UK pints/gallons are about 20% larger...though we decided to join the rest of the world and use metric. Well except for beer.
Simon please do Katyushas. I believe we'd love to know about them
I just recently rewatched Band of Brothers, and ever since I’ve been just soaking up tons of WW2 docs on Curiosity Stream and The Tube, and of course right on cue the man that looks like a knob with a beard hooks me up
the 88s that "could punch through it's armor like a hunk of warm Velveeta"
The German Army met meager resistance. Yeah, that is debatable.
i love a ridiculously similar the il2 and the warthog are
Fun video. Cheers from The Pacific West Coast of Canada.
Excellent video about this Soviet aircraft. Have you ever considered a video about the Beechcraft Model 18. It was in production from 1937 to 1970. How many planes are in production for 33 years? It was used for multiple uses over it's operation lifetime. Including training over 90% of the USAAF navigators and bombardiers during WWII. It was used by over 40 countries during and after WWII. It was also widely used as a civilian transport after WWII. Over 9,000 were produced. Please consider this aircraft for a video on your You Tube channel.
Danke für das (bis auf das grüne Zeug am Anfang) informative Video.
Should do a Megaprojects on Jerry Wilson (tankgod), the most awesome air traffic controller in US history.
Anna Alexandrovna Timofeyeva-Yegorova (Анна Александровна Тимофеева-Егорова; 23 September 1916 - 29 October 2009) that's something. News of death was definitely too early.
Having done the second most produced aircraft in history (and, notably, the most produced military aircraft), Simon, you should now cover the most produced aircraft in history (by more than double)--the Cessna 172.
The 172 flys like a UPS truck. It's a good trainer though.
some of those ads make me think about frogs emerging from my face
Do the SEVEN MILE BRIDGE in the Florida Keys!
At 12:52, talking about German tank losses, that’s s British Cruiser tank (not sure which mark - maybe 3?) 😂
How about a video about how many TH-cam channels Simon has?
No way they can cover that much information in one video😂
So i have an idea of a mega project. The twin creek flood control system. It is a series of 5 large dams that were built in the 1920's to prevent another large flood in Dayton Ohio that happened in 1913. Thats mostly all i know about it but i would love to know more. I have been to 4 of the 5 dams and you'll just be going along and there will be a massive earthen dam on a little creek and it makes you just say wow each time
The one that i know the most about is the Germantown dam.
Wow! It literally was a flying tank.
This aircraft was really a bless for the belaguered infantrymen, imagine being almost overrun by the germans and then the cavalry arrives, CAS aircrafts should be one of the most important parts of the arsenal, sadly seems that the various top brasses despise them
Another great talk. Not sure why you were you showing photos of a knocked out KV1 and a British Cruiser tank when talking about knocked out German Panzers at the Battle of Kursk.
One letter from Stalin and the laziness is turned in to productivity. A great leader.
Simon still has yet to present the Airbus A380 superjumbo ✈️
Wowza
They never mentioned this 1 during WW2 👍👍🛩️
The soviet engineering wasn't all that bad
Although I have herd of the Ilyushin manufacturer.
Company that built Kim Jong Uns plane ✈️
Close Air Support is a meatgrinder. Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses (SEAD) is a predicate if not primary.
Robin Olds and Chappie James (Blackman and Robin) pioneered 'Wild-Weasel' tactics in Vietnam. Quite a story.
VIDEO SUGGESTION: how about a video on AWACS and similar aircraft. E-3 Sentry, E-2 Hawkeye, E-8 Joint STARS…..
I read Erich Hartmann's bio "The Blond Knight of Germany" years ago, and remember that German fighter pilots quickly learned that the only vulnerable spot on the IL-2 was the oil cooler on the underside of the plane. They would attack from below and know that they had made a kill when they saw blue flame igniting from the Sturmovik's belly.
"The Flying Tank" was my nickname in college
The scale of that side of the war is astonishing.
Do one on the English Electric Lightning
Clean up on IL-2!
You can add "looking generally ridiculous" as another in the list of disadvantages of ww1 Era bi-planes.
DO THE BF-109!
Shturmovik is not a generic Russian term. It’s a loan translation of German der stürmer.
Simon can you make one about the laith and mill they basically started the dustrial revolution
Luv those war birds :) Thanks Simon!
Also the reason why so many german aces had ridiculous kill totals.
The sheer quantity of them you mean?
USSR's WWII version of our contemporary A-10 Warthog. Low and slow, packing a devastating punch.
Excellent stuff bro
They were kinda going to Leningrad. Interesting take
The A-10 Thunderbolt II would like a word, the only word it can say before something armored gets wrecked.
Eric Hartman is said to have shot down roughly 352 aircraft. That’s amazing! However, I wonder how many of said aircraft were actually fighter planes but rather IL-2 ground attack planes. If any one has info on the particular types he shot down I’d like to know. I must admit his kill count is a bit less remarkable if he was shooting down mostly IL-2s.
The internet has your back: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aerial_victories_claimed_by_Erich_Hartmann -- a text search shows 17 matches for "IL-2" in the list, compared to 111 for "LaGG-3" and 187 for just "LaGG", which includes the 111 LaGG-3s.
@@seanmalloy7249 thanks for the link. It looks like he took down quite a few La 5’s, 7’s, Yak 9’s and a few P-51s towards wars end. That’s quite impressive. His records are extraordinary, but it does seem that for the most part he was shooting down largely inferior or sluggish aircraft, especially with the IL-2’s, Pe-2s and LaGG’s. Not quite sure how well the P-39s held up against the Bf 109s G’s and K’s but I imagine them having quite a difficult time as they weren’t all that liked by the U.S. Army Air Corps. I’ve been learning a bit more about other German aces such as Hans-Joachim
Marseille and Adolf Galland. They didn’t necessarily achieve kill counts as high as Hartmann’s but they none the less had higher scores than any allied aces, and they were fighting on the western front, often against much more formidable enemy aircraft.
So what the product you've plugging at the start - Soylent Green?
All things set aside the pride of the Russian people n love of country is without being. When push comes to shove they will push back with every ounce of there being. Us in the west n western Europe no longer hve this. All be it with exception of a few that volunteer to protect the ones that despise us
Great video. I try n watch your content whenever possible. Keep up the great work. Much apreciated. 😀
In WW2 they had the reason to push back. Even without knowing what Hitler had in store for them, Nazi propaganda was promising to return things to how they were before Bolsheviks came to power, and people were remembering how things were back then all too well.
Hi simon next do kiev class aircraft cruiser
How about video on NORAD?
I love that you used the exact title of a similar video, when you search up “IL-2 sturmovik” your video and another posted 4 years ago are the first results. Nice title steal bro
You really need to edit your photographs more closely. You use a Russian KV1 and British Cruiser tank as German panzers.
The dialogue was fine !
Ugh, climate, coups, disasters, politics... 😳 Wait! What? 😮 Megaprojects? 🤔 The Flying Tank? YES! 🙏 Thanks Fact Boi! 👍👍👍
Can you make a video about the Swedish fighter jet jas 39 gripen or the Swedish submarines the Gotland class and the Södermanland class?
He should do one on the p-51
Grand Theft Aircraft 😂 love to hear both sides of that story
Being a rear gunner in an IL2 was a little like being in a 75mm Sherman tank, going one on one against a Tiger II.
Suggestion: the Norden bomb sight
Cool cool video 👍😎
Why do people randomly insert the word 'respectively' where it shouldn't be? 🤔
The original A-10.
Oof. Imagine being a plant manager of these planes, and receiving a letter from Joseph Stalin that ended with ".... this is your final warning." No wonder production of the IL-2 jumped four fold.
The Russian version of the A10 Thunderbolt. It is interesting to note that the Russian airforce has still valued survivability over the high tech approach of the US/Nato. Higher volumes of lesser tech aircraft and armed helicopters has been the preferred option (having a vast area to protect also impacts this). The soviets often faced a more advanced German military arsenal but it could counter this (as did the US war industry output) by a vastly bigger number of weaponised equipment which might have countered less savvy military decisions and battle weary troops (Hitler was an idiot general but his ground troops were different and the Stalin had to build an intelligent army after killing most of them off by 1939) While the Americans are often justified in fielding ultra advanced aircraft- much like the Germans did at wars end - the result was the inability of the Germans to counter the volume and replacement rate of the Soviets and the other western allies. With the Japanese it was more just troop numbers and fanatical fight to the death vs Russian armour. The soviets have usually designed for extreme weather (as the Russians must work against) and still be able to fight at some useful level, even with battle damage or wear and tear. The chinese have seen this and realised that while a vast armoured defence could on paper offer the same, without getting close to the opposition in technical ability hinders any attack power and leaves strategically important sites vulnerable to precision obliteration. Its not much use to field a vast armed helicopter divisions if a few stealth bombers take out the factory and the generals. Whether the greater independence of Western army forces to make decisions and leverage more limited battlefield tech superiority over bigger armies that need replenishment is a war we still all wish to test theory against. Fanatical devotion to the motherland is something only the Chinese (and North Koreans) are likely to differ from their opposing armies, something that the Germans managed to create with the Russians and seeing what the Japanese did- fashion in the Allies even without any chance of motherland invasion in America and the UK/Russia.
Soviet airforce was massivle ineffective. To the 1945 Germans were still capable attack Red Army with air atacks using planes like Stuka, when in West they were shoot down in masses in 1940. Il 2 took massive loses with not that much gains for Red Army. Much of Soviet claims about German losses in WW2 is bullshit. Soviets wins because of German indrustry was turn to dust in strategic bombardment by USA and UK. Most nazi airforce was fighting against them. Germans lose because they can't outoproduced Allied and USSR. Still Red Army logistic will not exist without LL program. Fanatism you praise bring cathastropic losses to Red Army.
There are SO many megaprojects that you haven't done. Why the fixation on aircraft, FactBoy #AircraftProjects
What are greens?
Nice
Germans named this "Betonflugzeug" or concrete plane
Imagine having to explain that your plane got stolen
If questionable effect on tanks themselves, they were murder on supply columns
Did you say *Hunchback* ?
Close Air support...
1:30 -- you're welcome
Why are they called ilushkin il -2 it’s….. il il 2 or ilushkin ilushkin 2
WW2 really showed that air power made so many other weapon types irrelevant
A mega project of the evacuation of the Soviet war industry and the workers to the Urals would be pretty awesome
I second that.
Me too !
I would love to see a mega project done on a plane that came just a little too late in WWII... That plane was the p-61 Black Widow! My grandfather flew one towards the end of WWII.... it was an incredible night fighter.
Yes. And since I can't find much, I'd love to see Simon cover the Black Widow compared to the P-38 Lightning. Both uniquely designed aircraft, iconic and lethal. Outsider view would be the difference is the 61 being designed for "night fighting". Would love more insight.
Cool. I'll check this out!
@@megaprojects9649 Please!!! It was I believe the most expensive fighter of WW2 but came in right at the end. Really cool technology in it
@@megaprojects9649 Also would love to see a video on the eurofighter Typhoon. It's the European approach to air supperiority fighters and is in many ways as revolutionaire as alot of modern stealth fighters.
Matt, same as my grandfather too! He flew P-61s and P-38s night fighters in the Pacific. Was your grandfather in the Pacific or European theatre? Fun fact, the 3-seat P-61 was the biggest prop aircraft to get the “P” (pursuit or fighter) designation.
Hi Simon, should definitely do a megaprojects on either the battle of Kursk, or the Kursk submarine itself both great history, one can be filled with melancholy, the other filled with sorrow for the men in the soviet navy fleet who lost their lives
his warographics? Channel would be a good one to do the battle of Kursk. just to be a grammar pain, the Kursk sub sank in 2000, well beyond the Soviet union, so was a Russian navy sub.
Good suggestions :)
I would love to hear about the battle of kursk. Surprised I don't know much about it.
@@chickenking111 Try this. More than 20 episodes.
Soviet Storm. WW2 in the East - The Battle Of Kursk. Episode 9. StarMedia. Babich-Design
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I'm currently deployed, and seeing I had comments and good idea comments..truly made my day definitely why I love being subscribed to this channel!
I wish one day simon makes a video about the douglas dc-3 . It changed aviation into what we know today.It is still flying commercially from 1935 and it would never be retired...
Turbo prop conversions are done near my house. See them out testing often enough. Amazing airplane
I will.
It would be sweet to re-start production of some classic plans (or other classic vehicles)
Truism....
When I was a kid I had a framed photo of a DC1 on my bedroom wall. It was titled as the latest Douglas luxury airliner.
What timing! I have been playing a lot of IL2 in VR lately and jumped on to TH-cam during my lunch hour to see if there were any interviews with old IL2 pilots on here. What did I discover? A fantastic new video from my favorite British conveyor of knowledge on the very subject of this cool aircraft. Thanks Simon!
I had the amazing good fortune to be a passenger in a decommissioned il-2 3m a 2 seater version it was slow very sluggish but with those 37mm cannons it would have carried I bet it made a hell of a mess when it hit a panzer or a trench full of Germans
Did you know there was some suite successfull female il-2 pilots? Anyway enjoying il-2 in VR too! But I can't seem to do more than one hour of it, after that the head set feels heavy, I start to sweat from the fore head and just can't go on, so I'm keeping the track IR handy... I have a reverb G2. You?
@@acid3129 lucky you!:)
Yeah, me too! Though, normally in the 109 on a quick mission, but do like the IL-2 missions, even if I'm hopeless at hitting tanks.
@@andrewrymell1 watch tutorials on "the air combat tutorial library" brilliant channel! I have a note book with a page of check list for every plane I make from his videos. His has some about hitting tanks with Soviet sights. Basically having a straight long we'll prepared approche is essential, if you rush it you'll screw it, and then if your gun are set at the right convergence, when the tank from the side is at a certain bracket on th sight you're pretty inclined to hit! So what's your head set?