Great video - thanks. I have recently upgraded my three MPPT controllers to the same 75/15 Victron's and I agree they put out very accurate and consistent voltages as set (or pre-defined). When using LifePO4 batteries, you really don't want to replace them due to a cheap regulator :)
An advantage with the Victron 75/15 MPPT solar charger is the 15A load output (the 75/10 is lower load current). This can be used to load shed when the battery gets low. Use this load output for lights and device chargers. Wire your fridge directly as most have low voltage cutouts inbuilt as standard.
Thanks for the review. I have that same blue PWM controller, but it was bundled with a different brand of solar blanket. It worked Ok with an AGM lead acid battery, but now needs to be replaced because it doesn't have the right settings for a new LiFePO4 battery. Another reason for choosing MPPT is if you are constrained by solar panel area. It might be cheaper to add more solar panels, but if you can't fit any more solar panels on the roof of a vehicle, then the only way to get more energy is to use a more efficient (MPPT) controller.
100/30 smart victron, 400 w panel, 280ah battery gel, 1200 inverter victron.. I have that system in Greece (always sun) . Fridge, lights, tv 30 inch, air cooler, pumper 800w whenever i open the water.. Honestly i never saw my battery lower than 13,2volt. The day always keep my battery in float mood.. It worth every last cent....
If you intend on using the Victron charge controller with the folding panels you have in front of you if you put the two panels in series 2 up the voltage that victron charge controller will work much better in overcast weather
Hi, good comparison. Could pls tell me which type of battery you used ? Because i have a douubt that it will not work good with lifepo4 (it has higher voltage). I saw victron statement that voltage of panel should be +5v from battery voltage.
No question that victron is best .I have some cheep controllers I use on my system they are cheep junk but they allow me to have redundancy and back up spare parts in case I screw up and .make magic smoke .that said as my system progresses I hope to replace with victron but it is hard to justify the initial cost .If you go cheep you have to continuously monitor the system.
Hi Mark, Just watched your video. We are currently looking to replace the controller we have for our 2 x 160w roof mounted panels and 2 x 120 a/h batteries. Would the Victron Energy Blue 75/15 MPPT be sufficient to use? Thankyou
Many cheap, so called MPPT controllers are just PWM controllers with a lying label. The results you got bare this out - the so called MPPT controller provided the same power as a PWM controller.
Tasmanian Offroad Adventures and somewhere in the middle are some decent, real, inexpensive MPPT controllers. But if the price is to good to be true, it likely is. I have a 6 year old EPSolar MPPT controller and it has been very good and gives me a comparable improvements over a PWM charger. Wish I had data logging and Bluetooth though.
did you actually test if the cheap "mppt" was in fact MPPT? plenty of these cheap units are fake and just PWM. be interesting to see this test down with other true MPPT controllers such as the EPever BN series and other tracer MPPTs edit Best MPPT Solar Charge Controllers Review up to 40A - EPever Vs Outback Vs Renogy Vs Victron Clean Energy Reviews channel
Nicely done, I've been having a problem understanding the 15, does it have to do with how much charging power goes into your battery? Will a 100ah battery, 100w panel charge faster with a 75/15 vs 75/10?
The 10 and 15 refer to the maximum charge current of the unit. A 100 watt panel will output less than 10 amps of charge so they would both charge at the same rate. The 75/10 is good for a panel up to 145 watts and the 75/15 up to 220 watts.
You should never mount the charger controller to the back of the panel like that. The panels will get hot in the sun, even on the back side. And those controllers will have no way to dissipate heat.
That's the way these portable panels tend to come. For our camper setup I moved the controller next to the battery... the main reason being that the long wire run between the panel and camper will be a higher voltage and that alone will minimize voltage drop, but also any drop that does happen will still be OK going into the charge controller which will put out the proper voltage to the battery. If I instead have a long run from the charge controller to the camper, that voltage drop could cause the battery to not charge as efficiently. But your heat dissipation argument is a nice secondary benefit. The cheap PWM controller my panel came with was really stuck down to the panel and hard to remove.
My money is on that maxray actually not being mppt at all, especially if it fried your battery by outputting 17v. The benefits of MPPT are even greater, the higher the solar input voltage gets. So your little 50w panels there were probably close enough to 12v that the PWM can actually do OK. You can pump 70v into that victron and it will always output the exact right voltage for your battery. PWM by definition pulses voltage into the battery to get the same effect. OK, I sound like a shill, but the money you spend on a good controller and decent cable can make a huge difference in your system's performance. Thanks for doing the comparison. Great video, as always.
@@TasmanianOffroadAdventures You know what, I have just had my Victron 75/15 fail on me in the past few days. I didn't realise, but they are packed with silica sand which acts as a thermal conducter or something to get heat away from the board. The seal which attaches the back cover on failed and all the sand started pouring out. Waiting to hear if I can get it replaced under the 5 year warranty but something to consider if anyone is looking at this particular model. Higher models have actual heatsinks.
My "name brand" pwm controller just fried my battery because it failed and shorted the solar power to the battery so it had 16.6 volts applied. Thanks for the review. My decision has been made.
THANKS !, Was looking at the exact same 75/15 victron controler as an upgrade for my 200w panels. Bloody brilliant mate, you confirmed what I’d hoped was the case with this unit V my crappy old PWM unit that came with the panels. Top stuff 👍👍
Great video - thanks. I have recently upgraded my three MPPT controllers to the same 75/15 Victron's and I agree they put out very accurate and consistent voltages as set (or pre-defined). When using LifePO4 batteries, you really don't want to replace them due to a cheap regulator :)
the cheap Maxray MPPT controller is probably PWM take the back off and see if it has a big inductor coil if it doesn't then its a PWM.
An advantage with the Victron 75/15 MPPT solar charger is the 15A load output (the 75/10 is lower load current). This can be used to load shed when the battery gets low. Use this load output for lights and device chargers. Wire your fridge directly as most have low voltage cutouts inbuilt as standard.
Thanks for the review. I have that same blue PWM controller, but it was bundled with a different brand of solar blanket. It worked Ok with an AGM lead acid battery, but now needs to be replaced because it doesn't have the right settings for a new LiFePO4 battery. Another reason for choosing MPPT is if you are constrained by solar panel area. It might be cheaper to add more solar panels, but if you can't fit any more solar panels on the roof of a vehicle, then the only way to get more energy is to use a more efficient (MPPT) controller.
Great point!
Very very Helpful - thx for taking the time to do a great test with a higher draw couple of lights. thx!
Just what i was after! thanks mate buying Victron 75/15
Your channel is great!! So many informative vids. Keep it up.
Cheers mate! I've been a bit time poor this year so not many videos. Have a lot of ideas though!
Those Victrons are so efficient that they routinely outpace most other mppt controllers on the market, they are fast.
Just brought the Victron Thanks for the video.
Ideally do the same test but switch the panels to be sure the two panels are really the same.
It was a no brainer for me to get the Bluetooth model.
100/30 smart victron, 400 w panel, 280ah battery gel, 1200 inverter victron.. I have that system in Greece (always sun) . Fridge, lights, tv 30 inch, air cooler, pumper 800w whenever i open the water.. Honestly i never saw my battery lower than 13,2volt. The day always keep my battery in float mood.. It worth every last cent....
The same happened to me with a cheap PWM, some are battery killers.
If you intend on using the Victron charge controller with the folding panels you have in front of you if you put the two panels in series 2 up the voltage that victron charge controller will work much better in overcast weather
Nice comparison
Made my mind up ..cheers
Hi great presentation could you please tell me how you find the victron in lower light conditions and does it work fine on a single panel barry
Hey mate, I’m very happy with the Victron all round. Single panel fine, lower light conditions good too.
This was my thought as well.
Hi, good comparison. Could pls tell me which type of battery you used ? Because i have a douubt that it will not work good with lifepo4 (it has higher voltage). I saw victron statement that voltage of panel should be +5v from battery voltage.
What voltage is your battery? The 75s are limited 75 volts (solar input) and 24 volts (battery output)...
Buy good gear and only buy once. 😉
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Absolutely
No question that victron is best .I have some cheep controllers I use on my system they are cheep junk but they allow me to have redundancy and back up spare parts in case I screw up and .make magic smoke .that said as my system progresses I hope to replace with victron but it is hard to justify the initial cost .If you go cheep you have to continuously monitor the system.
Hi Mark, Just watched your video. We are currently looking to replace the controller we have for our 2 x 160w roof mounted panels and 2 x 120 a/h batteries. Would the Victron Energy Blue 75/15 MPPT be sufficient to use? Thankyou
The 75/15 would be too small. The 100/20 would be more suitable but I’d contact Victron direct to confirm.
@@TasmanianOffroadAdventures Thankyou, will check with Victron.
Do Victron make a Controller for WindTurbins?
Well done 👍
Many cheap, so called MPPT controllers are just PWM controllers with a lying label. The results you got bare this out - the so called MPPT controller provided the same power as a PWM controller.
Benny Burger I think some definitely are PWM controllers with a MPPT sticker. Some are MPPT controllers, just not very good.
Tasmanian Offroad Adventures and somewhere in the middle are some decent, real, inexpensive MPPT controllers. But if the price is to good to be true, it likely is. I have a 6 year old EPSolar MPPT controller and it has been very good and gives me a comparable improvements over a PWM charger. Wish I had data logging and Bluetooth though.
did you actually test if the cheap "mppt" was in fact MPPT? plenty of these cheap units are fake and just PWM.
be interesting to see this test down with other true MPPT controllers such as the EPever BN series and other tracer MPPTs
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Best MPPT Solar Charge Controllers Review up to 40A - EPever Vs Outback Vs Renogy Vs Victron
Clean Energy Reviews channel
Victron in my experience is of the highest standard and quality i wouldn't even suggest anything els the price is worth it
Excellent video, just sized up my purchase to the Victron 75/15!
Thank you
Nicely done, I've been having a problem understanding the 15, does it have to do with how much charging power goes into your battery? Will a 100ah battery, 100w panel charge faster with a 75/15 vs 75/10?
The 10 and 15 refer to the maximum charge current of the unit. A 100 watt panel will output less than 10 amps of charge so they would both charge at the same rate. The 75/10 is good for a panel up to 145 watts and the 75/15 up to 220 watts.
You should never mount the charger controller to the back of the panel like that. The panels will get hot in the sun, even on the back side. And those controllers will have no way to dissipate heat.
That's the way these portable panels tend to come. For our camper setup I moved the controller next to the battery... the main reason being that the long wire run between the panel and camper will be a higher voltage and that alone will minimize voltage drop, but also any drop that does happen will still be OK going into the charge controller which will put out the proper voltage to the battery. If I instead have a long run from the charge controller to the camper, that voltage drop could cause the battery to not charge as efficiently.
But your heat dissipation argument is a nice secondary benefit. The cheap PWM controller my panel came with was really stuck down to the panel and hard to remove.
Great video Mark thanks for the information it was very helpful.
cheers mate
Thank you Sir for the very helpfull information.
top bloke good info thanks
My money is on that maxray actually not being mppt at all, especially if it fried your battery by outputting 17v.
The benefits of MPPT are even greater, the higher the solar input voltage gets. So your little 50w panels there were probably close enough to 12v that the PWM can actually do OK. You can pump 70v into that victron and it will always output the exact right voltage for your battery. PWM by definition pulses voltage into the battery to get the same effect.
OK, I sound like a shill, but the money you spend on a good controller and decent cable can make a huge difference in your system's performance.
Thanks for doing the comparison. Great video, as always.
Yeh, I reckon you're right. In hindsight I should have pulled it apart to see what was inside.
@@TasmanianOffroadAdventures You know what, I have just had my Victron 75/15 fail on me in the past few days.
I didn't realise, but they are packed with silica sand which acts as a thermal conducter or something to get heat away from the board. The seal which attaches the back cover on failed and all the sand started pouring out.
Waiting to hear if I can get it replaced under the 5 year warranty but something to consider if anyone is looking at this particular model. Higher models have actual heatsinks.
My "name brand" pwm controller just fried my battery because it failed and shorted the solar power to the battery so it had 16.6 volts applied. Thanks for the review. My decision has been made.
Simple and effective video. Great to see real world stats 👍🏻
Cheers mate
Hi, thank you for the information. I have decided to make the purchase.
THANKS !, Was looking at the exact same 75/15 victron controler as an upgrade for my 200w panels.
Bloody brilliant mate, you confirmed what I’d hoped was the case with this unit V my crappy old PWM unit that came with the panels. Top stuff 👍👍
Cheers mate, glad I could help!
Thanks Mate. Vid helped a lot. Cheers.
Thanks for the video. Very informative.
cheers mate
The bonus is if u hook a lithium battery up to the victron would streak away even further