Absolutely love hearing a great player like Tommy Fleetwood talking about how brutal the game is. I have days here and there as someone who has just started playing golf where it just feels impossible. So to hear him speaking about the game in that way is really reassuring
Shit half the mini tour players are traveling around the world living out of cars barely making 30k. Don’t think that’s a good judgement of making it. When u start receiving 7 figure checks is probally a good judgement of “making” it
Tommy Fleetwood is one of my favorite golfers for some reason..... 1. The sound of his balll striking... 2...quiet cool... Honesty.... In a perfect world we could enjoy him winning more
Could listen to Tommy all day. I remember hearing many years ago that the skill difference between a tour pro and a scratch handicap is about the same as the skill difference between a scratch handicap and a 20 handicap player!
I'm a scratch golfer about to turn pro and there's some truth to this.. it's hard to have it all in golf, power and finesse but the pros are just better than everyone from 150 in and putting.
@@UFBear15 they are just better in every category, from mental fortitude to driving, chipping, putt better..less mistakes. I got to +4. Turned pro and I wasn’t even close to being good enough
I had the privilege of spending 3 hours or so at Sunningdale a few years ago walking round with David Howell and he was probably the nicest pro golfer that I have ever met. Having seen a lot of Tommy Fleetwood on tv etc lately I believe that he is up there with David. An absolutely tope bloke that I cannot imagine anybody ever rooting against.
Moving from tour to tour functions like the Pareto Principle. You can be in the 20 % for a lower tour and then move up to a higher tour and now you are in the 80%. Your competition increases based on each tour. It is the same going from European Tour to the PGA Tour. With the increased competition and opportunities, comes potential for more prestige and money.
I think it’s cool the access you have to your fellow countrymen so we get to see them in a different light. I’m not sure if the TH-camrs across the pond have access to a Koepka or a DeChambeau to shoot a video with.
Ever heard of Garret Clarke or "Good Good"? They're from across the pond and have done a few videos now with Bryson :) Very good content, i would recommend if you have time.
Brillaint watch and great seeing an elite sportsman discussing how he sees golf and how he got to where he is. Hats off to Tommy telling it how it is, very refreshing!😁
@@MrHurrikane13no I started chasing something else… But I still keep up with golfing and it’s best in my attribute I dug deep down why I wanted to go pro And I found a way to achieve that without going pro
When should you turn pro ‘You’ll know’. Worst and best thing to hear. Worst to hear before ‘you know’ but generally truest statement when ‘you do know’.
I've really become such a fan of Tommy Fleetwood since his earlier appearances w/ Rick and the stuff he's done on Taylormade's YT channel. Can't wait for him to break thru with a win in the US. It's long overdue!
Tommy must have been hitting it in the bonkers at the Ryder Cup bot this didn't affect his game as I onderstand, he just used his potter and hacked it out from onder the sand.
I remember reading a quote from a tour pro, I don't remember who, like 25 years ago. He said the difference between a 20 handicapper and a scratch golfer is the same difference between that scratch player and a normal "good" pro. That put it in perspective as to how good these guys are. A lot of people think scratch players are like a notch below pros. They are hackers to pros.
I don't think that the pros appreciate how good the conditions are on their golf courses. Apart from about 6 weeks in the summer, I play at least half my shots from lies and conditions that would be unacceptable to pros. Half the tee blocks on my course are unlevel and or don't have enough grass on them. For two weeks they have more sand on them than the bunkers have sand in them. I cant play splash shots out of the bunkers, because they are solid compacted rock, covered in a quarter of an inch of sand. For most of the day the fairways are over-watered, so that you cant take a divot at all. Many times of the year, the greens are very slow, far too fast for the pin positions, aerated, top-dressed, or just plain bumpy, so that even the machine can't make more than about 2/10 from 10 feet. A lot of the ground in the rough is so bumpy underneath the grass, that you cant get the clubface on the ball properly., and there are probably another 4 or 5 examples I can think of. Most of the courses amateurs play are not "Tournament quality", and that means as an amateur I cant adapt my swing and style of play to what would be best for a tournament quality course. On the few occasions that I hit my home course and the conditions are perfect, I still break par at 60 years old, as do about 5 or six other old men. The rest of the year, we tend to shoot depending on the conditions, which cost us up to 10 shots a round. And this is playing 3 times a week and taking a 5 month break in the winter. Yes the Tour players are good, but they really ought to be that good.
Only playing for a year now and started following golf more closely... Yeah from what I have seen the only real difficulty compared to us is that they have longer courses but as you said they train for that and can crank them distances much farther than we can. The rest of the conditions... Like I just watched the US Open and come on not a water hazard, fairways like highways, greens the size of football fields. Honestly my local 9 hole course I started played recently is harder, its so much mpre narrow with huge trees on each side on every hole, three of them have water hazards right about where you drive and they where the hole turns, bunkers everywhere, one has literal giant tree in the middle of the fairway right around 300 yards... Honestly if you just pushed back the tees to match distances they have on this local course they wouldnt break par. I dont get it. Why dont they design these courses to be more difficult?
@mrfatuchi both of you spoken like fools. Do you really think the difference is the course setup? What about 10000 hours of practice on the range or better yet hours of coaching lessons day in day out convos with caddy about course management. What about knowing if you dont advance or place top 20 your PGA card could be revoked. What about your hotel and accommodation oh wait its okay you can tripple boggie on the 15th ... NOT because if you do then your going home no cheque and its coming out of your personal credit card. Oh and theres more..every shot you take go check your phone and see the missed phone calls from your sponsor or investor. He wants to meet you with alongside his wife to talk about pulling his sponsorship deal cant pay you 50k annually now. So uh... if you dont make the cut your not getting anymore money period... Explain to me with all of this how you would address the ball on the first tee. Let alone the 18th and you need a birdie to make the cut. Exactly short course or home course doesnt mean shit its about perspective
@@jardupngolf Not what I wrote and not what I meant. My point is that Golf isn't a terribly difficult game. Given the hours of practice, and the perfect conditions and a full-time professional caddie, they really should be substantially better than an amateur that has a full-time job and plays twice a week. And it is a different game as Tommy says, but there are many many sports that an amateur cannot even play against an experienced pro, yet at golf a really good amateur can hang in there with a pro occasionally. We only see on TV the pros that are top of their game. We don't see much of the pros that miss the cut at +8.
@@TheToledoTrumpton i see where you are coming from But that just makes me double down even further. Excuse me golf isnt difficult? Play for 1000 right now and tell me the first three holes are you going to hit down the middle? Straight? I know what you are saying but my point stands. So youre saying Augusta isnt difficult? Sawgrass 17th? How many mulligans would you need here? Id need all night probably lol
@@TheToledoTrumpton you think that making the course standards harder or more difficult achieves benefiting us all somehow like those AH HAH gotcha moments. Fail. Your implying here oh nah thats not a 58 because its a LIV golf course argument zzzz
6am gym sessions, perfecting diet and training, 2 hours of putting, 2 hours of wedges, 1 hour of swing drills, 18 holes of golf, then finish with working on what needs assistance 6 days a week isn’t work? All while your entire livelihood depends on how you play over a 4 day stretch, while taking hundreds of flights across the globe, trying to keep friends/family close, and manage the stress of physical/mental grind? Sure thing bub.
Absolutely love hearing a great player like Tommy Fleetwood talking about how brutal the game is. I have days here and there as someone who has just started playing golf where it just feels impossible. So to hear him speaking about the game in that way is really reassuring
When you start travelling round the world I think that's wen you know you've made it Tommy
Shit half the mini tour players are traveling around the world living out of cars barely making 30k. Don’t think that’s a good judgement of making it. When u start receiving 7 figure checks is probally a good judgement of “making” it
Tommy Fleetwood is one of my favorite golfers for some reason..... 1. The sound of his balll striking... 2...quiet cool... Honesty.... In a perfect world we could enjoy him winning more
Could listen to Tommy all day. I remember hearing many years ago that the skill difference between a tour pro and a scratch handicap is about the same as the skill difference between a scratch handicap and a 20 handicap player!
Damn...😳
I'm a scratch golfer about to turn pro and there's some truth to this.. it's hard to have it all in golf, power and finesse but the pros are just better than everyone from 150 in and putting.
@@UFBear15 they are just better everywhere. From the parking lot and back to the parking lot. Tee box to brain. Just better.
i've heard this but to be honest i'm not sure it's true that
@@UFBear15 they are just better in every category, from mental fortitude to driving, chipping, putt better..less mistakes.
I got to +4. Turned pro and I wasn’t even close to being good enough
I had the privilege of spending 3 hours or so at Sunningdale a few years ago walking round with David Howell and he was probably the nicest pro golfer that I have ever met. Having seen a lot of Tommy Fleetwood on tv etc lately I believe that he is up there with David. An absolutely tope bloke that I cannot imagine anybody ever rooting against.
Moving from tour to tour functions like the Pareto Principle. You can be in the 20 % for a lower tour and then move up to a higher tour and now you are in the 80%. Your competition increases based on each tour. It is the same going from European Tour to the PGA Tour. With the increased competition and opportunities, comes potential for more prestige and money.
It’s crazy to hear how elite the guys were at such a young age
I think it’s cool the access you have to your fellow countrymen so we get to see them in a different light. I’m not sure if the TH-camrs across the pond have access to a Koepka or a DeChambeau to shoot a video with.
Ever heard of Garret Clarke or "Good Good"? They're from across the pond and have done a few videos now with Bryson :) Very good content, i would recommend if you have time.
Golf is hard. 😂😂😂
Brillaint watch and great seeing an elite sportsman discussing how he sees golf and how he got to where he is. Hats off to Tommy telling it how it is, very refreshing!😁
I wanna go pro and I’m gonna
Gowan then
Did you?
@@MrHurrikane13no I started chasing something else…
But I still keep up with golfing and it’s best in my attribute
I dug deep down why I wanted to go pro
And I found a way to achieve that without going pro
Get yer feet off that table Rick!
This is brilliant content.
When should you turn pro ‘You’ll know’. Worst and best thing to hear. Worst to hear before ‘you know’ but generally truest statement when ‘you do know’.
Fascinating insights 👍
I've really become such a fan of Tommy Fleetwood since his earlier appearances w/ Rick and the stuff he's done on Taylormade's YT channel. Can't wait for him to break thru with a win in the US. It's long overdue!
Blades good for beginners, makes you learn how to hit.
Is that a virtual reality seperater on the lounge?
Tommy is definitely the Jesus of Golf..
Amazing watching how still their hands are………the left hand doesn’t move.
Resting the mic on his tackle! How cool is TF?
Love Tommy. That said, you guys all look SO awkward holding those big ass microphones. Get some that clip on your shirt, Rick! I know you have them!
The TRUTH about turning pro: You travel the world and can make a lot of money playing good golf
The margins are slim! You have to have some decent results or it's not worth it.
And someone just gives you that lifestyle on the platter? Its insane grind.
not gonna like, kinda looked like Aaron Rodgers in the thumbnail
Watch the full episode here: th-cam.com/video/LJZktBbqd8A/w-d-xo.html
Yes / No The top twenty in a tournament are at a very high level the rest of the field are hacking it around.
Tommy must have been hitting it in the bonkers at the Ryder Cup bot this didn't affect his game as I onderstand, he just used his potter and hacked it out from onder the sand.
As he says Ringo isn’t even the best drummer in the band .!
Is Guy the brother of tommy🤷♂️
Theu look alike and they sound the same
Tommy is MY Local Hero.
No-one since Sevvy means SO much to Me as a Golfer.
I'll go bloody ABSOLUTELY INSANE when he wins The Open.
I think anyone who plays golf realize how good your players are... the other professional sports fans I believe dont get it....
I remember reading a quote from a tour pro, I don't remember who, like 25 years ago. He said the difference between a 20 handicapper and a scratch golfer is the same difference between that scratch player and a normal "good" pro. That put it in perspective as to how good these guys are. A lot of people think scratch players are like a notch below pros. They are hackers to pros.
Why are they all sat there in head phones?
Looks like you set up the interview outside someone's apartment door.....
Looks like it’s in the apartments at the JCB course
I don't think that the pros appreciate how good the conditions are on their golf courses. Apart from about 6 weeks in the summer, I play at least half my shots from lies and conditions that would be unacceptable to pros. Half the tee blocks on my course are unlevel and or don't have enough grass on them. For two weeks they have more sand on them than the bunkers have sand in them. I cant play splash shots out of the bunkers, because they are solid compacted rock, covered in a quarter of an inch of sand. For most of the day the fairways are over-watered, so that you cant take a divot at all. Many times of the year, the greens are very slow, far too fast for the pin positions, aerated, top-dressed, or just plain bumpy, so that even the machine can't make more than about 2/10 from 10 feet. A lot of the ground in the rough is so bumpy underneath the grass, that you cant get the clubface on the ball properly., and there are probably another 4 or 5 examples I can think of.
Most of the courses amateurs play are not "Tournament quality", and that means as an amateur I cant adapt my swing and style of play to what would be best for a tournament quality course.
On the few occasions that I hit my home course and the conditions are perfect, I still break par at 60 years old, as do about 5 or six other old men. The rest of the year, we tend to shoot depending on the conditions, which cost us up to 10 shots a round. And this is playing 3 times a week and taking a 5 month break in the winter.
Yes the Tour players are good, but they really ought to be that good.
Only playing for a year now and started following golf more closely... Yeah from what I have seen the only real difficulty compared to us is that they have longer courses but as you said they train for that and can crank them distances much farther than we can. The rest of the conditions... Like I just watched the US Open and come on not a water hazard, fairways like highways, greens the size of football fields. Honestly my local 9 hole course I started played recently is harder, its so much mpre narrow with huge trees on each side on every hole, three of them have water hazards right about where you drive and they where the hole turns, bunkers everywhere, one has literal giant tree in the middle of the fairway right around 300 yards... Honestly if you just pushed back the tees to match distances they have on this local course they wouldnt break par. I dont get it. Why dont they design these courses to be more difficult?
@mrfatuchi both of you spoken like fools. Do you really think the difference is the course setup? What about 10000 hours of practice on the range or better yet hours of coaching lessons day in day out convos with caddy about course management. What about knowing if you dont advance or place top 20 your PGA card could be revoked. What about your hotel and accommodation oh wait its okay you can tripple boggie on the 15th ... NOT because if you do then your going home no cheque and its coming out of your personal credit card. Oh and theres more..every shot you take go check your phone and see the missed phone calls from your sponsor or investor. He wants to meet you with alongside his wife to talk about pulling his sponsorship deal cant pay you 50k annually now. So uh... if you dont make the cut your not getting anymore money period...
Explain to me with all of this how you would address the ball on the first tee. Let alone the 18th and you need a birdie to make the cut. Exactly short course or home course doesnt mean shit its about perspective
@@jardupngolf Not what I wrote and not what I meant.
My point is that Golf isn't a terribly difficult game. Given the hours of practice, and the perfect conditions and a full-time professional caddie, they really should be substantially better than an amateur that has a full-time job and plays twice a week.
And it is a different game as Tommy says, but there are many many sports that an amateur cannot even play against an experienced pro, yet at golf a really good amateur can hang in there with a pro occasionally.
We only see on TV the pros that are top of their game. We don't see much of the pros that miss the cut at +8.
@@TheToledoTrumpton i see where you are coming from
But that just makes me double down even further. Excuse me golf isnt difficult? Play for 1000 right now and tell me the first three holes are you going to hit down the middle? Straight? I know what you are saying but my point stands. So youre saying Augusta isnt difficult? Sawgrass 17th? How many mulligans would you need here? Id need all night probably lol
@@TheToledoTrumpton you think that making the course standards harder or more difficult achieves benefiting us all somehow like those AH HAH gotcha moments. Fail. Your implying here oh nah thats not a 58 because its a LIV golf course argument zzzz
Rick's foot on the face of the table, really classy
There is so much money in professional golf, why would you stay amateur?
Practicing golf is not really work
6am gym sessions, perfecting diet and training, 2 hours of putting, 2 hours of wedges, 1 hour of swing drills, 18 holes of golf, then finish with working on what needs assistance 6 days a week isn’t work? All while your entire livelihood depends on how you play over a 4 day stretch, while taking hundreds of flights across the globe, trying to keep friends/family close, and manage the stress of physical/mental grind?
Sure thing bub.
Most people pay to do all that
@@rbgolfer2013
Take ur caps off lads.. Ffs... And rick.. Take ur foot off the table man.. Stop trying to look tooo cool 😎😂😂bit sad