Being patient is fine, but there's a difference with Moyes and other managers who did get a chance, for example Rodgers last season for Liverpool. At no point this season has Moyes given an indication of hope. No football philosophy to believe in and no moments or big matches that stood out in quality and ability. Maybe it's wrong to fire a manager after only one season, but there are special instances when it's clear it isn't working, and prolonging his tenure just for the sake of the club's culture is a huge mistake.
Spot on mate. His body language has been defeated, and quite frankly pathetic all season. How can you expect players to play with passion if their manager can't motivate them after a tough season? A manager is supposed to be the leader of men, the motivator. At no point has Moyes shown a sign of that. His press conferences have shown how deluded and incapable he is to do this job, and that he's out of his death. Then let's not forget tactics. So so poor all year round. He's literally inept at employing any good tactics. Players have looked lost all season too. Like you and Carragher said, if team played well and lost, showed glimpses of better times to come, then ok give the gaffer some time. But when its been this poor, gotta sack the manager. Waiting for Klopp. He's the kind of manager we need now. Man manager, enthusiastic, smiling, energy, passion. Everyone wants to play for him. I feel like hugging him every time I see him on tv hahaha Time for the good times to return, as soon as Moyes is cut loose, along with his backroom staff
Maybe he just wants to see who has the hunger to play for the club even when the manager doesn't say anything. Even if doesn't say anything, the players should know what is expected of them and not play like they know nothing. With MU suffering this season, you'll know who wants to play for the club, Kagawa has been poor when he's played. He always does well when he play on the ledft for Japan but plays like he don't care bout anything for MU. It's not about what the manager says, there should be leader within the group of players that can rally the team up even when the manager doesn't say anything.
Rash Vin Yeah that could happen a few times, fine, but it's happened throughout the season. That is when you stop looking at the players and look at the manager. Not saying players have been perfect but the manager is the manager of the club, if he can't manage effectively he needs to go. Players will definitely leave this summer, and they should. A lot of them have shown they're not cut out for it but again also down to whole management. Leader of the group doesn't set up the team or give them tactics on how to play, and when Moyes lets Vidic, the leader of our team leave what is he doing to say? Nothing. I'm sure some players have but Moyes has dug himself in a hole too deep to escape. Time to leave, and a fresh start for everyone
Sandipan Chowdhury Regarding Vidic, they gave him a 1 year extension which he didn't want. He wanted 2, even if I was the manager, I would only give him 1 year extension. That's why I saying, judge Moyes based on th 1st half of next season when he has half of the players he wants at United. You have to admit, they have been rubbish even for the experienced players. The the underperfoming players leave, the others will know that their place are also in jeopardy, and they have to play at their best. United this season has been to me better defensively than last season. They are more compact. If you want to attack, the defence must be solid.
Phillip Neville will get a job, doens't matter if it's at MU or somewhere else, he will get a job. Gary Neville has supported MU for 30 years and will always suppor them no matter what happens. Carragger does the same about Liverpool. You can watch his comments on Liverpools difficulties and problems of the last 2 season and he always backs them.
Ehud Riven It must be hard/impossible for him to step back an give an unbiased view, he does it very well I feel at times, but this time I feel Moyes is rightly on the edge of being sacked, even with another year and transfer window to buy new players it's hard to see him doing much else
Harry Medlicott quite a few of the players were aging and were on their last season before their standard dropped, ferguson had not planned for the future but his last season
How about hernandez, welbeck, Jones, Rafael, kagawa all players coming through and emerging with there talents but not being taken advantage of it only really needed fine tuning
We didn't expect the league title. We knew there would be change. But we certainly didn't expect to be stuck outside the Europa League places. He has to go.
I enjoy both Carragher & Neville. That said, the Glazer family who own ManU have floated Manu stock on the NYSE, and my feeling is that they are in a mode of 'pump & dump' right now. Meaning, they will try to pump up Manchester's stock as high as possible and then sell. They couldn't care less about 'tradition': ManU is a 'brand name' like Home Depot, and the goal is to pull as much money as possible out of the club. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I see very hard times ahead for Manchester United, unless the Glazers are willing to commit and spend money. I don't see it.
You could well be right, but that couyld work out better for United. There are plenty of people in the world with enough cash to buy United and wipe off the debt, and then have them compete with City and Chelsea in the transfer market. Having said that, United's share price went down 10% when Fergie retired, so arguably, they would have sold sooner?
The thing is though... the Glazers won't spend money on the club. They syphon out most of the money to close up the huge debt they have themselves in. So the so called 200 million transfer kitty we are supposedly getting in the summer is completely the clubs money. The Glazer's know nothing about football and won't spend a cent on the club as they don't care about the club unless it's stock price is fluctuating.
As with most big business deals, the Glazers financed the purchase of ManU, and now all that debt is on the club's books. As someone on an ESPN blog noted, they pay down the debt, supposedly about $60 million a year, from Manchester's revenue streams, actually leaving the club in a tight spot about how much 'liquid' money is available. Only the bankers & the Glazers know.. Ryan Giggs sure doesn't!
as a liverpool fan im so happy at what is happening at united they deserve it, but come on gary how can you say united shouldnt sack moyes he's clueless and imagine the damage he'll do if he's given 200mill next season i think united will probably end up fighting relegation.
With 200million there will probably be some big name signings and a push for the title. I can only see it damaging Liverpool title hopes and nothing more. Liverpool fans shouldn't be talking about an under-performing club seeing as they have under-performed for 25 years. Humility will do a lot of good when your club come crashing down again.
Rash Vin you only see it hurting liverpool how so we have champions league and potentially champions of england united are 7th and on top of that because moyes is clueless he gave that fat OAP a 300k a week contract you think if any players like reus or kroos were to come in they'd accept anything less than 250k as they are better players than rooney so you have 200 mill to spend on about 8 or 9 players plus there wages of 200 to 250k a week minimum and you have no champions league to offer i think youll find liverpool next season will be in a better position.
Moyes just isn't cut for the job man...Chelsea has a shit a team, no strikers but with Mourinho managing he can still bring the best out of the players. Moyes just doesn't have that factor of being a top manager.
After buying 10 midfielder in a season and having a total of 24 midfielders in the club, he's bound to get more goals from their midfield and also a certain Hazard that SAF chose not to sign because he was too expensive for a young kid.
What Carra said; I think the club has had a lot of patience in comparison to most other big clubs. Moyes just hasn't inspired them enough to believe in him with £200m. Even putting results aside their performances have been abysmal and he has looked out of his depth way more times than he got things right.
As a United supporter, I completely agree with Jamie Carragher. There is only so much a club can take in one season. Given we were probably never going to win the Premier League, but how did we fall out of the champions league and Europa league next year?! Every time I look into United player's eyes, I don't see the confidence they had with Sir Alex Ferguson. It's almost as if they don't know if Moyes has a plan or not. And it's shown in their performance this season. With plenty of players being linked away from the club, (chicharto, rvp, welbeck, evra, etc.) the club is in crisis control mode. They have to reassure supporters and players that they have things under control, when clearly they don't as Moyes pretty much took us off the champions league. This is hurting the club both in confidence and financially.
As a Man Utd season ticket holder, it's not often that I agree with a Scouser over a Mancunian, but Carragher is spot on and Gaz Nev is way off the mark. It's all good giving a manager time as long as said manager shows even a semblance of taking the team in the right direction. Moyes hasn't showed that at all. Also funny that Gaz mentioned Sexton, Atkinson and Fergie but not Wilf McGuiness. David Moyes' time is up.
I completely agree! Moyes needs more time, Ferguson left Moyes with the worse United squad in recent years. Yes, they have won it last year but a big reason for that was Robin van Persie, Alex had to get the best striker in the league to win it.
I am sorry Rednev, I love you to bits but we have got to get our heads off the "Manchester United Way" crap. "Not Arrogant Just Better" is what we used to say and now its "Just Arrogant, Not Better"...our arrogance and this massive ego to do things unlike everyone else is what has cost us this season. We need to learn to adapt and evolve with the world, whether we like it or not. Times HAVE changed...I agree that when managers are doing well sacking them is just utter nonsense (read Chelsea and Real Madrid) but Moyes has not shown a SINGLE positive thing to convince me. I would really have liked him to succeed but he just isn't the right man.
SAF got time when he started managing utd but he didn't inherited a league winning squad like moyes did. This squad won the title last season, yes it's in decline but let's be honest, they're not that much in decline from one season to the next.
A team as big as Manchester United needs titles as humans need air to breathe. You cannot give a coach too much time, they need to start showing positive signs quickly. In my opinion, Moyes actually got WAY TOO MUCH time for what he was doing actually. Good luck Man U. on your next coach, whoever he shall be.
And though I'd never accuse Gaz Nev of this usually, but I think when he's making these comments, he's keeping in mind that Moyes' losing his job means a certain Phil Neville will be out on his arse too. Sorry Gaz, just saying it like I see it.
I agree with the United legend 100%. Look at what we have done at Chelsea, a manager every year on average, although Mourinho won't be leaving us again. But this is bad. You give a manager 6 years and sack him after 9 months, not even a full season done. Of course, he has been poor, but Sir Alex Ferguson was given time. I also agree with the Liverpool legend too.
i think moyes should be given more time. the problem is, its very difficult to defend him. we all know its a transitional period, and the club will have alot of difficulties. but not to this extent. the man has no tactics at all. not one match has moyes proved that his tactics actually work very well. its very hard to give him more time. the blame isn't all on him though, the players aren't good enough and serious changes need to happen. he needs to be given this summer transfer window and the next january transfer window to do adjustments and change the squad. there needs to be alot of clearing out and buying new players. moyes hasn't given himself any reason to be defended. looking at other clubs, for example liverpool last season. it was brendan rodger's first season and his start was bad as well. but we all saw a completely new liverpool after the january transfer window, because he got the players he needed. he developed the players he had like henderson, sterling, suarez, and made them major players. in moyes's situation, he has done nothing other than getting mata. the other players around him like fellaini, cleverly, evra, rafael, are not good enough anymore. he should of got more players. he needs to do something this summer, or he will definately lose his job.
I disagree with what he says, if man Utd hired a bad manager and they lost every game under him. Would you give him time because it's tradition? Obviously not if the team isn't performing anywhere where it should be.
Why not keep him until the end of the season??? We have nothing else to lose now. Kicking him out like that is just humiliating and has no meaning to it. The last game was played pretty bad by the team. The only fault Moyes should be blamed of is not letting janujaz play along with Kagawa and Mata. Even Kagawa and Mata werent playing good. Man U team is pretty shitty right now. The goalie sucks and the defenders suck. The defenders really work very hard but they are not organized properly. The wings suck as they can't cross shit. The attackers play more defense and mid roles, but they are not creative enough to play that position. Janujaz mata and Kagawa in the mid....Rooney and Persie in the attack....we would have gotten better results in most matches....There 3 needs to be in the middle against a strong team...
I agree that United haven't been at their best this season, everyone knows that, but De Gea has probably been our best performer the whole season alongside Rooney and Januzaj or Phil Jones. I wouldn't trade De Gea for any goalkeeper in the world, he is very young and absolute class. Moyes, as the manager should have taken full responsibility when we lost a game, but instead, he'd always make excuses when we lost saying "he's planning for the future." He was never fit for the job. His negative approach to every game, even at home, was atrocious for a man leading one of the biggest clubs in the world.
I agree, it would've been less embarrassing to let him go in the summer, but there is a financial (surprise, surprise) reason for the decision. The game against Everton was pivotal because it was united's last mathematical hope of making the top 4. Moyes' contract decreased in value exponentially when he missed out on the Champion's League, so then it was the Glazer's turn to feel like they had nothing (money-wise) to lose by sacking him. The irony is cruel for Moyes but good for business, poor bloke deserved better.
If you take over the champions you are expected to at least get a Champions league spot. No excuses. But at least the worst pressure is of the next fellow. Football is entertainment and is about scoring more goals than the other team! Break the piggy bank and give us pace, muscles and a new number 7!
Neville a united legend should not comment like this to save his brother job.......he knows inside moyes has not shown any signs of improvement for whole season then y wait for next season to sack him...he needs to go
Keith Clancy Which was saving Everton from Premier League relegation by the former manager in the last few games of the season. And 3 season later taking them into UCL qualification, and has taken then to Europa League a few times on a tiny budget of not more than 10 million a season. Martinez will struggle with Everton next season due to their small squad and Lukaku leaving them.
Rash Vin Everton should never have been in a relegation battle. And they also reached dizzy heights getting UCL. In my eyes, Europa league (or Uefa cup) should always have been Moyes' target with Everton
It's a lovely set of ideals, Gary, but that's just decorative in this case. I remember seeing the FIRST pre-season friendly against Thai XI in which we lost 1-0 playing empty, clueless football, Sunday against Everton it felt like a deja vu of that, time will only determine how long the wrecking of the club will last. He dug his own grave refusing to take on Sir Alex's coaching staff and saying he would do things his own way with his own people even though they were people who knew nothing about the players or the club. And him appointing Phil Neville and Giggs as a publicity stunt was insulting to them and to us. I never liked him as a manager but I always was optimistic, even after pre-season, even after the bad start, I had hope. But after January, I had no hope. And all that is left is a constant promise that it'll get bette with no indications of how, it's all speculation because it's late April with 3 games left to go and Moyes hasn't figured out who his starting eleven are or how we're going to play, and he has no business spending money when he can't even get the players on the team to perform. It's delusional to say he'll do better with time. There's simply no hope with Moyes because there's NOTHING you can point at and say "Well, at least..." Nope, none of that. To want to be different just for the sake of it is pretentious bullshit. Gary. Moyes would've been sacked in mid Janury at most clubs and would've been sacked after Olympiacos at ANY other club. He got an entire season to do something and did nothing.
the thing about this is that moyes would be given a chance if there was some resemblance of improvements. things just kept worst instead of getting better, to play 51 different line ups in 51 games is not how to manage a club like man united.
He wasn't the right man but looking at some of the past videos and articles, some fans really let us down during his tenure. The sheer abuse and weekly attacks the man got went over the top in some cases. He got support too but a lot of people ended up looking like inpatient, spoilt kids throwing the pram out after one bad season. The results weren't good enough and i understand people have passion and pride for their club, i just think at times there was a lack of class and calm heads about.
Look at where WHU are now with nothing like the spending power. He was the wrong choice for United but certainly can produce a team capable of over achieving. And through all this Woodward is still in a job. That is the biggest mystery!!
I hate agreeing with Jamie, but he's right! The future with David Moyes at the helm is bleak to say the least! I don't blame Moyes, I blame the owners that allowed themselves to be influenced to make that decision!
David moyes deserved the sac, didn't have a fucking clue what he was doing and rio cemented this by saying some days they'll play long balls next day they'll do heaps of passing, he was never right and never will be thank god for lvg because now I can see we are on the right track and I'm sure as hell we'll win the league in the next couple of seasons if not this season
its working good? if you actually watch man united now we make a hell of a lot more chances and have more fight, our attacking is excellent and once we shore up our defence we will be an absolute force
Yeah that's not exactly hard when you have Di maria, falcao, blind etc now is it? Easier fixture list, no CL football to distract them, £150 million spent and you have 1 point more than this point last season. If you think Van Gaal has been any better then you're an idiot
van gaal has inherited a team that finished 7th, a team that has no confidence at all after a disaster under david moyes whilst moyes inherited the fucking champions of england, it takes time because its a transition like you just said we have brought in players and let go of a lot, not only that he has had to deal with injury problems but once all that clears and we start clicking ohhhh boy you just watch
69kaztheman Whose laughing now. Agree with you buddy Moyes was a cancer at united. LvG has bought some stability and that with stupid amount of injuries.
If Manchester United had appointed Jose Mourinho instead of David Moyes, I honestly believe they wouldn't be in the position they are in now. Saying "oh it was expected" after Ferguson left seems like an excuse to me. Man Utd won the league last season, and they added Fellaini and Mata. Okay they don't have a good of a squad as Chelsea or Man City, but Roberto Martinez has done a way better job with even less resources and less depth in his squad, and so has Brendan Rodgers, who's been in the job for longer, yes I know, but Liverpool were not the current champions when he took over. David Moyes has taken over a team that won the PL last year, so you can't blame the quality of the players. It's about getting the best out of players and having a playing philosophy whilst also being tactically adaptable. I honestly believe this would've never happened had Mourinho been appointed.
Moyes had to go he was in awe of being at United as manager, he wasn't inspiring the players at all, he played negative defensive football and couldn't change tactics if things were going wrong, all the best managers manage a game at a time, Moyes put out the same tactical set up in every game. The Fulham game at home stands out it was a game we totally dominated and there was just no back up plan playing crosses for 90 minutes.
"GARY NEVILLE -MOYES STILL DESERVED TIME"............i haven't even watch the video but i agree he still deserved time ,about five years hard labour..........boom boom
Did Moyes give Zaha a chance and believe in his abilities? Give Januzaj full backing without feeling dependent on a kid? Anderson's quick sending away, who is tactically better than most of our central mids and better kept in subs? NO! Why does he deserve time himself if he never gives "incompetent" people chances to prove themselves? He operates by these rules, if you don't give something great to the team, then you should be left out...and clearly Moyes is amongst the people who are showing poor performance, the league this season was fairly easy to win, look at how terrible the results were for united but still most times we were 3 wins away from catching the top teams, and he'd mess that chance up all the time, top 4 was amongst reach, he messes that chance too, i see a lot of chances and enough time to fight for his job at those times...just good managing and seeing the bigger picture could have saved his job.
The last few words Gary said about united controlling and containing Info has got me really thinking...what if the reports really did come from the club Anonymously? because since Van Gaal has come in its gone right back to that Containing information and controlling information i never really though Moyes had 'Friends'Inside the club which is a shame because they always leaked information not to mention Rio ferdiand as much of a legend as he is has on coloured himself in Glory whenever he speaks about that time its pretty disrespectful
What were we all expecting with the current united squad? Ferguson could rally most of the trolls on TH-cam with a blend of fear and respect. The days of man management are dying, it's all down to who's willing to spend serious money.
Question for people who actually know stuff about United: Can United actually spend £200m? I ask because the FFP (financial fair play) rules are in effect. Which means that to spend £200m, the club would have to turn a profit of £200m+ from revenue. So yeah, what's the truth?
sad to see. i wanted moyes to get an extra season to build and form his team. its hard to come into a new club like united especially after a manager who has been at the club for a long time.. they should have let him get an extra season . now united will get a manager who will probably be van gaal.. he will buy alot of mediocre players and cause civil unrest in the club and people actually neville is voicing opinion because he is the one of the members in the staff? NO its not about that.
More time, more time??? Moyes WOULD of got more time if he at least got the Champions into a champions league spot even at 4th place, even with all the awful performances and everything else that went wrong he would have been given at least another year if United had champions league football next season - but they don't and altogether it's been an absolute disaster of a season with the team progressively getting worse with each game, he just wasn't the right man from day one. He had more than enough time to at least show he was maybe the right man who deserved more time, but he showed the opposite.
By Gary Neville's logic, any new manager cannot be held accountable for his first season at a new club. Meaning that the club can be in freefall but since it's his first season, he cannot be sacked. That is football suicide! I respect Gary Neville's opinion but I disagree with him. He's clinging to hope that Moyes will have a miracle season next year and Neville is not thinking about the future of the club. There is 99.99% certainty that United will have another poor season, by our standards, next year if Moyes is still there and with all this talk about major transfer changes needed, what happens when Moyes has another poor start to the season and the money that Moyes has spent cannot be given to the next manager? By then it is too late. No one would want the job anymore because the club wont have any more transfer money or CL football and the downfall of United is almost complete. There has not been any clear football style or any improvements from the start of the season until now and David Moyes has already spent 65m and even admitted that he was not prepared for the job to be this difficult. MoyesOut KloppIn
For Moyes to sign players, he needs the board's go ahead. He will only get that if they feel the player will help them improve. SAF had total control over transfer, and what he says will happen whether in buying or selling player. He didn't need the board decision, but Moyes needs their decision.
Rash Vin Where did you get that from? Manchester United had lined up Thiago and Garay and Moyes vetoed those deals. He gave Woodward a list of players that he wanted and only Fellaini came in at the last minute because the others were unrealistic.
BabatundeW SAF was Manchester United. The owners and management don't question him him because he takes care of the club nicely. Btw, appointing a successor by a retiring manager is not uncommon.
I think he's been given plenty of time! Hes out of his depth. When Fergie got a few years we weren't the club we are now, if we keep Moyes he's gonna undo all the great work Fergies done. Moyes' handling of transfers both in summer and January was pitaful then his tactics have been all wrong, iv thought from day one he doesn't suit Manchester United and i was right. We need a big established manager to attract the huge stars we need to get back into the top four otherwise were gonna fade away pretty quickly.
David moyes should be given time. He is succeeding a great manager who made the team from bits. The team tht won last season was the worst manutd team or infact the worst team to ever win the pl. How do u ever expect a manager to do well with this bunch in one season? Give him time.
they won because the manager knew how the players worked together to defeat their rivals using killer tactics, what did Moyes achieve at Everton? What have they achieved since he left? He's a fucking liability they should of seen this coming, I do not know what Sir Alex (God) Ferguson was thinking
Lifelong utd fan but neville dosent know wot he's on about, he said last year we didn't need a cm cos we had jones,giggs,kagawa,ando in cover! Do me a favour he's only saying give moyes more time cos his brother was working with moyes. He said we shudnt have to spend £100m+ cos we have the players, now he's saying we need 3 players to win the league. He's a fanny end off!!!
Moyes deserved to be sacked and he shouldn't of got the job in the first place because that was a weird and wrong by our best Manager AF. The Job was too big for him and he couldn't handle it and the players didn't want to play for him and thats the truth. ( Man.united Fan)
Transition Period This tops one of the biggest excuse Moyes has given stating that he needs time to develop his own squad and adjust to his "style" after replacing the enormous shoes of SAF. This is clearly ******** as you have managers such as Martinez, Pellegrini, Mourinho and maybe even Tata who instantly stamps their authority at their new clubs respectively. You don't see Everton, Barca or Man City slumping to 7th in the league just because a new manager have taken over a new club. What does he bring to the team? Attacking football? Passing style? High pressure?. Some believe Moyes needs to be given more time. Some even compared his tenure to Liverpool's Brendan Rodgers. Compare Liverpool's season now and last season. Impressive. However, you cant simply compare these 2 managers. At least Brendan Rodgers was known to make Swansea City play attractive passing football and his capability would definitely develop moving on to a bigger club like Liverpool. However what about Moyes' time at Everton?? Whats so special about Everton's playing style that made SAF chose him as his successor? Would a high cautious tactic used at Everton improve a squad like United?? I am sure it is pretty obvious now. Not his squad Moyes has stated that he inherited an aging squad and wants to make use of the transfer funds to buy "his players". Now come on!!! Many fans have also pointed out that this is almost the same squad that "own" the league last season. This season we have Rooney, Kagawa, De Gea, Mata, RVP and how could these players full of trophies and medals combined more than the teams above them currently fall behind to a squad(no disrespect) consisting of Lukaku, Barkley, Mccarthy,Barry or Kaboul, Adebayor, Erikson? Yes, i do understand that Man Utd players have under performed this season and the opposition players have shined(some) but isnt the manager responsible to motivate his players. Man utd were able to win the league with scapegoats such as Welbeck, Cleverly, Smalling, Young, Valencia etc when SAF was in charge. *** Therefore how I see Moyes handling the sqaud that he has now, god know what would have happened if he was given the 200million to spend. ~amr
Who the heck is that guy breathing loudly with a whistling sound in his nose? Is it the camera man? Sorry. I want to listen clearly to what the pundits are saying.
Can Jamie Carrington refer to anything other than Liverpool, I mean yeah sure he was a great servant to them but he surely watches other teams matches. Right?
I know what u mean but he knows the most of liverpool on sky sports inside and out and he always knows if he backs something up with liverpool he is right were as if he uses another club the information he gives out might be wrong
Liverpool fans on here talking shit about us getting relegated haha wise up liverfools you dont realise that moyes has won more trophies this season than liverfools have - charity shield lol
David Moyes should leave ManU because he is bringing the biggest inberestment for Manchester United, if he does not leave some one can do something bad to him.
Credit to Carragher, spot on.
Being patient is fine, but there's a difference with Moyes and other managers who did get a chance, for example Rodgers last season for Liverpool. At no point this season has Moyes given an indication of hope. No football philosophy to believe in and no moments or big matches that stood out in quality and ability. Maybe it's wrong to fire a manager after only one season, but there are special instances when it's clear it isn't working, and prolonging his tenure just for the sake of the club's culture is a huge mistake.
Spot on mate. His body language has been defeated, and quite frankly pathetic all season. How can you expect players to play with passion if their manager can't motivate them after a tough season? A manager is supposed to be the leader of men, the motivator. At no point has Moyes shown a sign of that. His press conferences have shown how deluded and incapable he is to do this job, and that he's out of his death.
Then let's not forget tactics. So so poor all year round. He's literally inept at employing any good tactics. Players have looked lost all season too.
Like you and Carragher said, if team played well and lost, showed glimpses of better times to come, then ok give the gaffer some time. But when its been this poor, gotta sack the manager.
Waiting for Klopp. He's the kind of manager we need now. Man manager, enthusiastic, smiling, energy, passion. Everyone wants to play for him. I feel like hugging him every time I see him on tv hahaha
Time for the good times to return, as soon as Moyes is cut loose, along with his backroom staff
He can't bring the best out of the players, that's another huge thing that goes hand in hand with the motivation point
Maybe he just wants to see who has the hunger to play for the club even when the manager doesn't say anything. Even if doesn't say anything, the players should know what is expected of them and not play like they know nothing. With MU suffering this season, you'll know who wants to play for the club, Kagawa has been poor when he's played. He always does well when he play on the ledft for Japan but plays like he don't care bout anything for MU. It's not about what the manager says, there should be leader within the group of players that can rally the team up even when the manager doesn't say anything.
Rash Vin Yeah that could happen a few times, fine, but it's happened throughout the season. That is when you stop looking at the players and look at the manager. Not saying players have been perfect but the manager is the manager of the club, if he can't manage effectively he needs to go. Players will definitely leave this summer, and they should. A lot of them have shown they're not cut out for it but again also down to whole management. Leader of the group doesn't set up the team or give them tactics on how to play, and when Moyes lets Vidic, the leader of our team leave what is he doing to say? Nothing. I'm sure some players have but Moyes has dug himself in a hole too deep to escape. Time to leave, and a fresh start for everyone
Sandipan Chowdhury Regarding Vidic, they gave him a 1 year extension which he didn't want. He wanted 2, even if I was the manager, I would only give him 1 year extension. That's why I saying, judge Moyes based on th 1st half of next season when he has half of the players he wants at United. You have to admit, they have been rubbish even for the experienced players. The the underperfoming players leave, the others will know that their place are also in jeopardy, and they have to play at their best. United this season has been to me better defensively than last season. They are more compact. If you want to attack, the defence must be solid.
Gary just doesn't want his brother to be out of the job
He's just not suitable to comment on Manchester United issues.
Phillip Neville will get a job, doens't matter if it's at MU or somewhere else, he will get a job. Gary Neville has supported MU for 30 years and will always suppor them no matter what happens. Carragger does the same about Liverpool. You can watch his comments on Liverpools difficulties and problems of the last 2 season and he always backs them.
Ehud Riven It must be hard/impossible for him to step back an give an unbiased view, he does it very well I feel at times, but this time I feel Moyes is rightly on the edge of being sacked, even with another year and transfer window to buy new players it's hard to see him doing much else
Who is here now thinking they should have kept Moyes?
We will never know if he would have improved
It’s the impossible task
Yeah
They would've failed anyway... it took this decision to improve the current squad.
the squad at the moment is nowhere near as good as it used to be, to be fair to moyes, ferguson left nothing behind for him, in terms of players
Although at the end of the day that team won the league last year now they've slipped off massively, moyes should go he's had his time
Harry Medlicott quite a few of the players were aging and were on their last season before their standard dropped, ferguson had not planned for the future but his last season
How about hernandez, welbeck, Jones, Rafael, kagawa all players coming through and emerging with there talents but not being taken advantage of it only really needed fine tuning
Harry Medlicott i don't rate Rafael tbh
Harry Medlicott Welbeck has the worst touches ever and he doesn't produce anything to the team. I don't even rate Phil Jones as high anymore.
We didn't expect the league title. We knew there would be change. But we certainly didn't expect to be stuck outside the Europa League places. He has to go.
I agree...Moyes deserves more time
IN MOYES WE TRUST!
Legend Incredimata ...
1:41 Dear Neville, when 20years ago you were laughing, the Italian teams were winning
Carrageen and Neville are both right, top notch pundits.
Carragher has it spot on - Position is untenable in some respects. Feel bad for him but club has to do what is best for them.
I enjoy both Carragher & Neville.
That said, the Glazer family who own ManU have floated Manu stock on the NYSE, and my feeling is that they are in a mode of 'pump & dump' right now. Meaning, they will try to pump up Manchester's stock as high as possible and then sell. They couldn't care less about 'tradition': ManU is a 'brand name' like Home Depot, and the goal is to pull as much money as possible out of the club.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I see very hard times ahead for Manchester United, unless the Glazers are willing to commit and spend money.
I don't see it.
You could well be right, but that couyld work out better for United. There are plenty of people in the world with enough cash to buy United and wipe off the debt, and then have them compete with City and Chelsea in the transfer market. Having said that, United's share price went down 10% when Fergie retired, so arguably, they would have sold sooner?
The thing is though... the Glazers won't spend money on the club. They syphon out most of the money to close up the huge debt they have themselves in. So the so called 200 million transfer kitty we are supposedly getting in the summer is completely the clubs money. The Glazer's know nothing about football and won't spend a cent on the club as they don't care about the club unless it's stock price is fluctuating.
As with most big business deals, the Glazers financed the purchase of ManU, and now all that debt is on the club's books. As someone on an ESPN blog noted, they pay down the debt, supposedly about $60 million a year, from Manchester's revenue streams, actually leaving the club in a tight spot about how much 'liquid' money is available. Only the bankers & the Glazers know.. Ryan Giggs sure doesn't!
Yes.... you were wrong 😁
as a liverpool fan im so happy at what is happening at united they deserve it, but come on gary how can you say united shouldnt sack moyes he's clueless and imagine the damage he'll do if he's given 200mill next season i think united will probably end up fighting relegation.
With 200million there will probably be some big name signings and a push for the title. I can only see it damaging Liverpool title hopes and nothing more. Liverpool fans shouldn't be talking about an under-performing club seeing as they have under-performed for 25 years. Humility will do a lot of good when your club come crashing down again.
Deserve it?
Rash Vin you only see it hurting liverpool how so we have champions league and potentially champions of england united are 7th and on top of that because moyes is clueless he gave that fat OAP a 300k a week contract you think if any players like reus or kroos were to come in they'd accept anything less than 250k as they are better players than rooney so you have 200 mill to spend on about 8 or 9 players plus there wages of 200 to 250k a week minimum and you have no champions league to offer i think youll find liverpool next season will be in a better position.
Deserve it, what for being the most dominant team in England for the last 15 years? Typical jealous bin dipping scouse prick!
Deserve it, what for being the most dominant team in England for the last 15 years? Typical jealous bin dipping scouse prick!
Moyes just isn't cut for the job man...Chelsea has a shit a team, no strikers but with Mourinho managing he can still bring the best out of the players. Moyes just doesn't have that factor of being a top manager.
After buying 10 midfielder in a season and having a total of 24 midfielders in the club, he's bound to get more goals from their midfield and also a certain Hazard that SAF chose not to sign because he was too expensive for a young kid.
Ferguson didn't choose not to sign him. Hazard chose chelsea because they won UCL
SAF chose not to got to a bidding war and refused to top Chelsea offer. In a way, MU's bid for Hazard is rejected and he signed fo Chelsea.
What Carra said; I think the club has had a lot of patience in comparison to most other big clubs. Moyes just hasn't inspired them enough to believe in him with £200m. Even putting results aside their performances have been abysmal and he has looked out of his depth way more times than he got things right.
Again spot on Gary!!!
As a United supporter, I completely agree with Jamie Carragher. There is only so much a club can take in one season. Given we were probably never going to win the Premier League, but how did we fall out of the champions league and Europa league next year?! Every time I look into United player's eyes, I don't see the confidence they had with Sir Alex Ferguson. It's almost as if they don't know if Moyes has a plan or not. And it's shown in their performance this season. With plenty of players being linked away from the club, (chicharto, rvp, welbeck, evra, etc.) the club is in crisis control mode. They have to reassure supporters and players that they have things under control, when clearly they don't as Moyes pretty much took us off the champions league. This is hurting the club both in confidence and financially.
As a Man Utd season ticket holder, it's not often that I agree with a Scouser over a Mancunian, but Carragher is spot on and Gaz Nev is way off the mark. It's all good giving a manager time as long as said manager shows even a semblance of taking the team in the right direction. Moyes hasn't showed that at all. Also funny that Gaz mentioned Sexton, Atkinson and Fergie but not Wilf McGuiness.
David Moyes' time is up.
4 year's later we are still bad. 😭😭😭
6 yrs and Moyes in top 4 ..ole ha ha hahaha!! Ole at the wheel mate 😅
I completely agree! Moyes needs more time, Ferguson left Moyes with the worse United squad in recent years. Yes, they have won it last year but a big reason for that was Robin van Persie, Alex had to get the best striker in the league to win it.
Im from the year 2037, man utd havent won the league since but its november and theyre favourites this year
I'm from the year 2051 and Man Utd are in league one!
@@jumpa654 i’m from year 2078 and united are bankrupt because the glazers took too much money out of the club!
I'm from 2100, Manchester United are no longer a club
I am sorry Rednev, I love you to bits but we have got to get our heads off the "Manchester United Way" crap. "Not Arrogant Just Better" is what we used to say and now its "Just Arrogant, Not Better"...our arrogance and this massive ego to do things unlike everyone else is what has cost us this season. We need to learn to adapt and evolve with the world, whether we like it or not. Times HAVE changed...I agree that when managers are doing well sacking them is just utter nonsense (read Chelsea and Real Madrid) but Moyes has not shown a SINGLE positive thing to convince me. I would really have liked him to succeed but he just isn't the right man.
SAF got time when he started managing utd but he didn't inherited a league winning squad like moyes did. This squad won the title last season, yes it's in decline but let's be honest, they're not that much in decline from one season to the next.
Carragher: For all the local Jeeernailst :P that accent.
Thank you for putting videos like this
Agree pressed the panic button.Hope they become another manager every other season club with limited success in the next decade.
Damn, bro. That was some cruel curse. LOL. A United fan here, BTW.
I feel for you Man Utd fans..
Gary trying to set a world record for words spoken per 60 seconds
A team as big as Manchester United needs titles as humans need air to breathe. You cannot give a coach too much time, they need to start showing positive signs quickly. In my opinion, Moyes actually got WAY TOO MUCH time for what he was doing actually. Good luck Man U. on your next coach, whoever he shall be.
And though I'd never accuse Gaz Nev of this usually, but I think when he's making these comments, he's keeping in mind that Moyes' losing his job means a certain Phil Neville will be out on his arse too.
Sorry Gaz, just saying it like I see it.
I agree with the United legend 100%. Look at what we have done at Chelsea, a manager every year on average, although Mourinho won't be leaving us again. But this is bad. You give a manager 6 years and sack him after 9 months, not even a full season done. Of course, he has been poor, but Sir Alex Ferguson was given time. I also agree with the Liverpool legend too.
The worst mistake was sacking Moyes without a reason
funny how carragher would always link every story to liverpool .KMT
Its probably because he knows more about them
i agree. moyes deserved a lot more time
i think moyes should be given more time. the problem is, its very difficult to defend him. we all know its a transitional period, and the club will have alot of difficulties. but not to this extent. the man has no tactics at all. not one match has moyes proved that his tactics actually work very well. its very hard to give him more time. the blame isn't all on him though, the players aren't good enough and serious changes need to happen. he needs to be given this summer transfer window and the next january transfer window to do adjustments and change the squad. there needs to be alot of clearing out and buying new players. moyes hasn't given himself any reason to be defended. looking at other clubs, for example liverpool last season. it was brendan rodger's first season and his start was bad as well. but we all saw a completely new liverpool after the january transfer window, because he got the players he needed. he developed the players he had like henderson, sterling, suarez, and made them major players. in moyes's situation, he has done nothing other than getting mata. the other players around him like fellaini, cleverly, evra, rafael, are not good enough anymore. he should of got more players. he needs to do something this summer, or he will definately lose his job.
These title winning players threw David Moyes under the bus.
Just like they threw van gaal, mourinho, ole and rangnick under the bus too.
I disagree with what he says, if man Utd hired a bad manager and they lost every game under him. Would you give him time because it's tradition? Obviously not if the team isn't performing anywhere where it should be.
Why not keep him until the end of the season??? We have nothing else to lose now. Kicking him out like that is just humiliating and has no meaning to it.
The last game was played pretty bad by the team. The only fault Moyes should be blamed of is not letting janujaz play along with Kagawa and Mata. Even Kagawa and Mata werent playing good.
Man U team is pretty shitty right now. The goalie sucks and the defenders suck. The defenders really work very hard but they are not organized properly. The wings suck as they can't cross shit. The attackers play more defense and mid roles, but they are not creative enough to play that position.
Janujaz mata and Kagawa in the mid....Rooney and Persie in the attack....we would have gotten better results in most matches....There 3 needs to be in the middle against a strong team...
I agree that United haven't been at their best this season, everyone knows that, but De Gea has probably been our best performer the whole season alongside Rooney and Januzaj or Phil Jones. I wouldn't trade De Gea for any goalkeeper in the world, he is very young and absolute class.
Moyes, as the manager should have taken full responsibility when we lost a game, but instead, he'd always make excuses when we lost saying "he's planning for the future." He was never fit for the job. His negative approach to every game, even at home, was atrocious for a man leading one of the biggest clubs in the world.
I agree, it would've been less embarrassing to let him go in the summer, but there is a financial (surprise, surprise) reason for the decision. The game against Everton was pivotal because it was united's last mathematical hope of making the top 4. Moyes' contract decreased in value exponentially when he missed out on the Champion's League, so then it was the Glazer's turn to feel like they had nothing (money-wise) to lose by sacking him. The irony is cruel for Moyes but good for business, poor bloke deserved better.
DOE MAN
I stopped reading when I saw "the goalie sucks".. shows your football knowledge
what do you mean the goalie sucks?
mitch parson De Gea is getting better but he still sucks. He is same as Diego Lopez.
Jamie. he asked you about moyse not passed Liverpool managers.
If you take over the champions you are expected to at least get a Champions league spot. No excuses. But at least the worst pressure is of the next fellow. Football is entertainment and is about scoring more goals than the other team! Break the piggy bank and give us pace, muscles and a new number 7!
Neville a united legend should not comment like this to save his brother job.......he knows inside moyes has not shown any signs of improvement for whole season then y wait for next season to sack him...he needs to go
The Fulham game in itself was a sackable offence.
The 5-5 draw at WBA last season??? Or maybe the 6-1 loss to MC??? Were those not sack-able offence???
the problem is with every defeat, man united bounced back STRONGER with SAF.. it is a totally different story now..
Moyes won't be sacked this season
He would've failed anyway, it was all about spending back in those times... it took this decision to improve the current(Solksjaer) squad.
#MoyesIn
Kermit De Frog they should keep him for the next 10 years like Everton did. Give him a chance to prove what he can't do
Keith Clancy Which was saving Everton from Premier League relegation by the former manager in the last few games of the season. And 3 season later taking them into UCL qualification, and has taken then to Europa League a few times on a tiny budget of not more than 10 million a season. Martinez will struggle with Everton next season due to their small squad and Lukaku leaving them.
Rash Vin Everton should never have been in a relegation battle. And they also reached dizzy heights getting UCL. In my eyes, Europa league (or Uefa cup) should always have been Moyes' target with Everton
Rash Vin Moyes also got Everton into a relegation battle BY HIMSELF and only narrowly avoided it
By right, with the funding that Everton were getting back then, they wouldn't be more that a club whose target is to finish in the bottom 10.
the WORST new trend is via social media, the press can start crap rumours that lead to actually sacking a manager. shocking.
It's a lovely set of ideals, Gary, but that's just decorative in this case. I remember seeing the FIRST pre-season friendly against Thai XI in which we lost 1-0 playing empty, clueless football, Sunday against Everton it felt like a deja vu of that, time will only determine how long the wrecking of the club will last. He dug his own grave refusing to take on Sir Alex's coaching staff and saying he would do things his own way with his own people even though they were people who knew nothing about the players or the club. And him appointing Phil Neville and Giggs as a publicity stunt was insulting to them and to us.
I never liked him as a manager but I always was optimistic, even after pre-season, even after the bad start, I had hope. But after January, I had no hope. And all that is left is a constant promise that it'll get bette with no indications of how, it's all speculation because it's late April with 3 games left to go and Moyes hasn't figured out who his starting eleven are or how we're going to play, and he has no business spending money when he can't even get the players on the team to perform. It's delusional to say he'll do better with time.
There's simply no hope with Moyes because there's NOTHING you can point at and say "Well, at least..." Nope, none of that. To want to be different just for the sake of it is pretentious bullshit. Gary. Moyes would've been sacked in mid Janury at most clubs and would've been sacked after Olympiacos at ANY other club. He got an entire season to do something and did nothing.
10 years later and we're still talking about poor performances and managers not having the dressing room....
united fan since 1992 shocked
the thing about this is that moyes would be given a chance if there was some resemblance of improvements. things just kept worst instead of getting better, to play 51 different line ups in 51 games is not how to manage a club like man united.
oooooh its disgusting when the media jump on man united news but when its mourinho dissing arsene wenger its all gooood
He wasn't the right man but looking at some of the past videos and articles, some fans really let us down during his tenure. The sheer abuse and weekly attacks the man got went over the top in some cases. He got support too but a lot of people ended up looking like inpatient, spoilt kids throwing the pram out after one bad season. The results weren't good enough and i understand people have passion and pride for their club, i just think at times there was a lack of class and calm heads about.
I agree we should have been realistic that Utd weren’t going to like they were under fergie over night
Look at where WHU are now with nothing like the spending power. He was the wrong choice for United but certainly can produce a team capable of over achieving. And through all this Woodward is still in a job. That is the biggest mystery!!
David Moyes must stay - Liverpool fan.
Moyes will be managing Newcastle or Spurs next year
Spurs can never give him job since Levy is too clever to hire a clown
he'll be at swansea
Swansea like to play total footbal not crosses :p he ll b in championship
***** Sunderland/hull/Leicester city 14/15
I hate agreeing with Jamie, but he's right! The future with David Moyes at the helm is bleak to say the least! I don't blame Moyes, I blame the owners that allowed themselves to be influenced to make that decision!
play this on 0.5 speed its like he's stoned
Was a conspiracy theorist at 1.25 speed and they make complete sense
David moyes deserved the sac, didn't have a fucking clue what he was doing and rio cemented this by saying some days they'll play long balls next day they'll do heaps of passing, he was never right and never will be thank god for lvg because now I can see we are on the right track and I'm sure as hell we'll win the league in the next couple of seasons if not this season
hahaha hows that working our?
its working good? if you actually watch man united now we make a hell of a lot more chances and have more fight, our attacking is excellent and once we shore up our defence we will be an absolute force
Yeah that's not exactly hard when you have Di maria, falcao, blind etc now is it? Easier fixture list, no CL football to distract them, £150 million spent and you have 1 point more than this point last season.
If you think Van Gaal has been any better then you're an idiot
van gaal has inherited a team that finished 7th, a team that has no confidence at all after a disaster under david moyes whilst moyes inherited the fucking champions of england, it takes time because its a transition like you just said we have brought in players and let go of a lot, not only that he has had to deal with injury problems but once all that clears and we start clicking ohhhh boy you just watch
69kaztheman Whose laughing now. Agree with you buddy Moyes was a cancer at united. LvG has bought some stability and that with stupid amount of injuries.
If Manchester United had appointed Jose Mourinho instead of David Moyes, I honestly believe they wouldn't be in the position they are in now. Saying "oh it was expected" after Ferguson left seems like an excuse to me. Man Utd won the league last season, and they added Fellaini and Mata. Okay they don't have a good of a squad as Chelsea or Man City, but Roberto Martinez has done a way better job with even less resources and less depth in his squad, and so has Brendan Rodgers, who's been in the job for longer, yes I know, but Liverpool were not the current champions when he took over. David Moyes has taken over a team that won the PL last year, so you can't blame the quality of the players. It's about getting the best out of players and having a playing philosophy whilst also being tactically adaptable. I honestly believe this would've never happened had Mourinho been appointed.
7th is more than enough to show that time was up.
#inmoyeswetrust #ohwait
Hahahahahaha
Moyes had to go he was in awe of being at United as manager, he wasn't inspiring the players at all, he played negative defensive football and couldn't change tactics if things were going wrong, all the best managers manage a game at a time, Moyes put out the same tactical set up in every game. The Fulham game at home stands out it was a game we totally dominated and there was just no back up plan playing crosses for 90 minutes.
he should have more time
please dont sack moyes he is a genius
"GARY NEVILLE -MOYES STILL DESERVED TIME"............i haven't even watch the video but i agree he still deserved time ,about five years hard labour..........boom boom
we are different, any other team would have sack him 6 months ago.
Did Moyes give Zaha a chance and believe in his abilities? Give Januzaj full backing without feeling dependent on a kid? Anderson's quick sending away, who is tactically better than most of our central mids and better kept in subs? NO! Why does he deserve time himself if he never gives "incompetent" people chances to prove themselves? He operates by these rules, if you don't give something great to the team, then you should be left out...and clearly Moyes is amongst the people who are showing poor performance, the league this season was fairly easy to win, look at how terrible the results were for united but still most times we were 3 wins away from catching the top teams, and he'd mess that chance up all the time, top 4 was amongst reach, he messes that chance too, i see a lot of chances and enough time to fight for his job at those times...just good managing and seeing the bigger picture could have saved his job.
ZAha slept with his daugther, thats why
The last few words Gary said about united controlling and containing Info has got me really thinking...what if the reports really did come from the club Anonymously? because since Van Gaal has come in its gone right back to that Containing information and controlling information i never really though Moyes had 'Friends'Inside the club which is a shame because they always leaked information not to mention Rio ferdiand as much of a legend as he is has on coloured himself in Glory whenever he speaks about that time its pretty disrespectful
Thought he should of got at least the summer
#SaveMoyes
He cant get sacked who would there be to take the piss out of
True Gary .
What were we all expecting with the current united squad? Ferguson could rally most of the trolls on TH-cam with a blend of fear and respect. The days of man management are dying, it's all down to who's willing to spend serious money.
When Suarez leaves Liverpool and he will the club will collapse. Talk about one man team
I don't even want to work for Manchester anymore anyway.
Question for people who actually know stuff about United:
Can United actually spend £200m? I ask because the FFP (financial fair play) rules are in effect. Which means that to spend £200m, the club would have to turn a profit of £200m+ from revenue. So yeah, what's the truth?
Carragher talking more sense than Neville.
Keep him. This is cming from a liverpool fan. As long as David moyes is there, liverpool will always beat them
sad to see. i wanted moyes to get an extra season to build and form his team. its hard to come into a new club like united especially after a manager who has been at the club for a long time.. they should have let him get an extra season . now united will get a manager who will probably be van gaal.. he will buy alot of mediocre players and cause civil unrest in the club and people actually neville is voicing opinion because he is the one of the members in the staff? NO its not about that.
Time to do what exactly?????
More time, more time??? Moyes WOULD of got more time if he at least got the Champions into a champions league spot even at 4th place, even with all the awful performances and everything else that went wrong he would have been given at least another year if United had champions league football next season - but they don't and altogether it's been an absolute disaster of a season with the team progressively getting worse with each game, he just wasn't the right man from day one.
He had more than enough time to at least show he was maybe the right man who deserved more time, but he showed the opposite.
Gary i agree with you on almost everything but this one is you are wrong!
Gary Neville talks more than my missus, jesus christ!!!
By Gary Neville's logic, any new manager cannot be held accountable for his first season at a new club. Meaning that the club can be in freefall but since it's his first season, he cannot be sacked. That is football suicide!
I respect Gary Neville's opinion but I disagree with him. He's clinging to hope that Moyes will have a miracle season next year and Neville is not thinking about the future of the club.
There is 99.99% certainty that United will have another poor season, by our standards, next year if Moyes is still there and with all this talk about major transfer changes needed, what happens when Moyes has another poor start to the season and the money that Moyes has spent cannot be given to the next manager?
By then it is too late. No one would want the job anymore because the club wont have any more transfer money or CL football and the downfall of United is almost complete.
There has not been any clear football style or any improvements from the start of the season until now and David Moyes has already spent 65m and even admitted that he was not prepared for the job to be this difficult.
MoyesOut KloppIn
For Moyes to sign players, he needs the board's go ahead. He will only get that if they feel the player will help them improve. SAF had total control over transfer, and what he says will happen whether in buying or selling player. He didn't need the board decision, but Moyes needs their decision.
Rash Vin
Where did you get that from? Manchester United had lined up Thiago and Garay and Moyes vetoed those deals. He gave Woodward a list of players that he wanted and only Fellaini came in at the last minute because the others were unrealistic.
BabatundeW It's basic management. Would you give direct control of money to a new guy in your company?
You have no articles supporting your claim. United didn't follow basic management in letting the retiring manager appoint his successor.
BabatundeW SAF was Manchester United. The owners and management don't question him him because he takes care of the club nicely. Btw, appointing a successor by a retiring manager is not uncommon.
Garry Neville should manage united
rare occasion where jamie is right .
I think he's been given plenty of time! Hes out of his depth. When Fergie got a few years we weren't the club we are now, if we keep Moyes he's gonna undo all the great work Fergies done. Moyes' handling of transfers both in summer and January was pitaful then his tactics have been all wrong, iv thought from day one he doesn't suit Manchester United and i was right. We need a big established manager to attract the huge stars we need to get back into the top four otherwise were gonna fade away pretty quickly.
David moyes should be given time. He is succeeding a great manager who made the team from bits. The team tht won last season was the worst manutd team or infact the worst team to ever win the pl. How do u ever expect a manager to do well with this bunch in one season? Give him time.
they won because the manager knew how the players worked together to defeat their rivals using killer tactics, what did Moyes achieve at Everton? What have they achieved since he left? He's a fucking liability they should of seen this coming, I do not know what Sir Alex (God) Ferguson was thinking
Lifelong utd fan but neville dosent know wot he's on about, he said last year we didn't need a cm cos we had jones,giggs,kagawa,ando in cover! Do me a favour he's only saying give moyes more time cos his brother was working with moyes. He said we shudnt have to spend £100m+ cos we have the players, now he's saying we need 3 players to win the league. He's a fanny end off!!!
Moyes deserved to be sacked and he shouldn't of got the job in the first place because that was a weird and wrong by our best Manager AF. The Job was too big for him and he couldn't handle it and the players didn't want to play for him and thats the truth. ( Man.united Fan)
Moyes is a good manager but was in the wrong job. That does happen but is shouldn't have happened at United.
Transition Period
This tops one of the biggest excuse Moyes has given stating that he needs time to develop his own squad and adjust to his "style" after replacing the enormous shoes of SAF. This is clearly ******** as you have managers such as Martinez, Pellegrini, Mourinho and maybe even Tata who instantly stamps their authority at their new clubs respectively. You don't see Everton, Barca or Man City slumping to 7th in the league just because a new manager have taken over a new club.
What does he bring to the team?
Attacking football? Passing style? High pressure?. Some believe Moyes needs to be given more time. Some even compared his tenure to Liverpool's Brendan Rodgers. Compare Liverpool's season now and last season. Impressive.
However, you cant simply compare these 2 managers. At least Brendan Rodgers was known to make Swansea City play attractive passing football and his capability would definitely develop moving on to a bigger club like Liverpool. However what about Moyes' time at Everton?? Whats so special about Everton's playing style that made SAF chose him as his successor? Would a high cautious tactic used at Everton improve a squad like United?? I am sure it is pretty obvious now.
Not his squad
Moyes has stated that he inherited an aging squad and wants to make use of the transfer funds to buy "his players". Now come on!!! Many fans have also pointed out that this is almost the same squad that "own" the league last season.
This season we have Rooney, Kagawa, De Gea, Mata, RVP and how could these players full of trophies and medals combined more than the teams above them currently fall behind to a squad(no disrespect) consisting of Lukaku, Barkley, Mccarthy,Barry or Kaboul, Adebayor, Erikson? Yes, i do understand that Man Utd players have under performed this season and the opposition players have shined(some) but isnt the manager responsible to motivate his players.
Man utd were able to win the league with scapegoats such as Welbeck, Cleverly, Smalling, Young, Valencia etc when SAF was in charge.
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Therefore how I see Moyes handling the sqaud that he has now, god know what would have happened if he was given the 200million to spend.
~amr
I love this man - proper legend, but he's talking rubbish here.
Who the heck is that guy breathing loudly with a whistling sound in his nose? Is it the camera man? Sorry. I want to listen clearly to what the pundits are saying.
Can Jamie Carrington refer to anything other than Liverpool, I mean yeah sure he was a great servant to them but he surely watches other teams matches. Right?
the fail is hard
I know what u mean but he knows the most of liverpool on sky sports inside and out and he always knows if he backs something up with liverpool he is right were as if he uses another club the information he gives out might be wrong
Liverpool fans on here talking shit about us getting relegated haha wise up liverfools you dont realise that moyes has won more trophies this season than liverfools have - charity shield lol
GIGGS OUT
gary neville plesae replace alan hansen next seasnon on match of the day
It's the way of the world now I'm afraid IMO he's gone
#moyesout!
David Moyes should leave ManU because he is bringing the biggest inberestment for Manchester United, if he does not leave some one can do something bad to him.