Big thanks everyone for the positive comments on this lesson! Even though I´m really happy with this one, I will definitely do an expanded solo filmed with better audio. I´d also discuss how some of today´s "Philly Joe "ish"" players, like the fantastic Joe Farnsworth for example, use these ideas, because the evolution of styles is one of the things that interest me the most!
Hi Dave, got a question concerning the sticking of the first phrase, for some reason playing it like this (RLRRLLRRLRLR - RLLRRLR) feels more comfortable for me. What's your take on using different sticking for the same phrase? Thanks!
Hi Faraj and great question!! I think that any phrase that we make ”our own” and that we´re able to play without effort in many various tempos and dynamics are some of the best stuff we can practice. What makes the Philly Joe signature phrase stand out is that it contains the 3/4 ride pattern in the right hand which also makes it very easy to orchestrate around the kit. Which makes it a 3/4 phrase that sounds extremely jazzy when repeated - an over the barline pattern.However, to be a complete expert on your own phrases are about the coolest stuff that is. I don`t really see a clear structure in your phrase (like the Philly 3/4) which can be totally fine as long as you´re completely comfortable with it😎 Check out my PJJ 2 video as well to hear a little more of this lick!😎
NOW I see the structure your sticking! I just missed it. It is a paradiddle variation that feels great. But again, the benefit of the Philly lick is that you get the 3/4 ride pattern in R.H.🤩
And finally, playing a ”signature” phrase like this with let´s say a bassist or saxophonist who has listened a lot to Philly Joe might trigger stuff in the music that hadn´t come otherwise. A great saxophonist is making all kinds of historical references in his/her solos, so in order to be able to conversate with them musically we should be able to throw out a shitload😆 of references as well!
Hey David, this is fantastic. I'd love to connect and talk about the possibility of Skyping lessons. I'll explain more. how can I email you? Thanks. -Max in NYC
atrocityvendor Hey! Absolutely that would be awesome!! Im gearing up right now to be able to do skype lessons. Ill also do a separate page this week on my website www.davidnorberg.net where I describe a little bit more how I think about lesson plans etc etc. My email is: gdbnorberg@gmail.com. /David
Lame stuff..mimicry can never really get there..listen to the spirit things are played in ,you can still play and be your self .. and you wont be hitting your leg!
Yeah....jazz is a language that we learn as any other language. This will eventually get us to speak together in musical phrases. When someone put together words we know into a sentence, it makes sense and we understand it because we have learned the grammar through mimic. Personally I´m really sick of listening to bands where everyone just sits and speak for themselves, not even close to speaking the same language. Speaking the same musical language is what at least I have found being the only thing that works for real and that is where the spirit is. Also, Picasso didn´t start by painting the stuff he later did - he started by mastering the whole tradition of painting to be able to break the rules with confidence and substance and the stuff that came out then was pretty freakin spiritual.
Big thanks everyone for the positive comments on this lesson! Even though I´m really happy with this one, I will definitely do an expanded solo filmed with better audio. I´d also discuss how some of today´s "Philly Joe "ish"" players, like the fantastic Joe Farnsworth for example, use these ideas, because the evolution of styles is one of the things that interest me the most!
Your videos are excellent David, you're giving me loads to work on!
Thanks for the inspiring material to take into the practice room!
Great bro! Love it. Keep groovin' DC
Loving your channel, man. Subscribed!
very interesting stuff. Please play at very slow tempos so we can grasp. You are an excellent player and these type things are priceless.
Big thanks! Great advice, I'll definately do that! In my new video "3 awesome fills" I tried to break it down more in pieces:)
Nice work) keep going)) u really help me with all you video)) 👍
Hi Dave, got a question concerning the sticking of the first phrase, for some reason playing it like this (RLRRLLRRLRLR - RLLRRLR) feels more comfortable for me.
What's your take on using different sticking for the same phrase?
Thanks!
Hi Faraj and great question!! I think that any phrase that we make ”our own” and that we´re able to play without effort in many various tempos and dynamics are some of the best stuff we can practice. What makes the Philly Joe signature phrase stand out is that it contains the 3/4 ride pattern in the right hand which also makes it very easy to orchestrate around the kit. Which makes it a 3/4 phrase that sounds extremely jazzy when repeated - an over the barline pattern.However, to be a complete expert on your own phrases are about the coolest stuff that is. I don`t really see a clear structure in your phrase (like the Philly 3/4) which can be totally fine as long as you´re completely comfortable with it😎 Check out my PJJ 2 video as well to hear a little more of this lick!😎
NOW I see the structure your sticking! I just missed it. It is a paradiddle variation that feels great. But again, the benefit of the Philly lick is that you get the 3/4 ride pattern in R.H.🤩
And finally, playing a ”signature” phrase like this with let´s say a bassist or saxophonist who has listened a lot to Philly Joe might trigger stuff in the music that hadn´t come otherwise. A great saxophonist is making all kinds of historical references in his/her solos, so in order to be able to conversate with them musically we should be able to throw out a shitload😆 of references as well!
@@jazzdrumswithdave3086 Many Thanks Dave for taking the time! Really appreciated. 🙏
Great stuff here! Thanks for the lessons. Where are you located? Is there a pdf for these?
Grymt kul att se hur du avancerar!!
You are awsome explaining and playing, thanks a lot for all your videos!
Hey David, this is fantastic. I'd love to connect and talk about the possibility of Skyping lessons. I'll explain more. how can I email you? Thanks. -Max in NYC
atrocityvendor Hey! Absolutely that would be awesome!! Im gearing up right now to be able to do skype lessons. Ill also do a separate page this week on my website www.davidnorberg.net where I describe a little bit more how I think about lesson plans etc etc. My email is: gdbnorberg@gmail.com. /David
Cool, my name is Max. when it's ready, let me know.
Jättebra !
lagging
Brilliant video. Thank you!
love this rudimental solos :)
cool stuff - like it!!
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Yeah that´s the highlight
Lame stuff..mimicry can never really get there..listen to the spirit things are played in ,you can still play and be your self .. and you wont be hitting your leg!
Yeah....jazz is a language that we learn as any other language. This will eventually get us to speak together in musical phrases. When someone put together words we know into a sentence, it makes sense and we understand it because we have learned the grammar through mimic. Personally I´m really sick of listening to bands where everyone just sits and speak for themselves, not even close to speaking the same language. Speaking the same musical language is what at least I have found being the only thing that works for real and that is where the spirit is. Also, Picasso didn´t start by painting the stuff he later did - he started by mastering the whole tradition of painting to be able to break the rules with confidence and substance and the stuff that came out then was pretty freakin spiritual.