Had to give this video another viewing while waiting for my pledge to get shipped out. So excited for this to arrive. And hoping everyone at the fulfillment center recovers fully.
Great Preview. I know you don’t want to edit but in a case like this a b-roll with a few shots that pan over components would have been really amazing.
I think that b-rolls are overrated. I also watched the Quackalope preview and it was so annoying that when he was talking about various components he edited in some b-rolls. I wanted him to show me the components he was talking about. I watched his video two times and I was still confused after.
@@rb3152 But what stands in the way of panning over parts of the game that are relevant in that segment? Quackalope's B-Rolls are often confusing I agree.
Hello Alex! As I'm getting to know you better, watching videos weekly, I'm starting to very common trait, board game wise, between each other. I can't wait to back this game. A friend of mine got a copy to review, showed me a few pictures, I read his critics, and the minute he posted in online (in French), he wrote a message to me saying, i know you don't like many limited round games, but you will absolutely love this. After viewing your video and noticing the presence of the game on your table, seeing your excitement, and pros and cons, there's no way I'm not backing this game. True, I'm a bit skeptical about the 4 rounds, as I love desk/dice/bag building game, and I normally find ways to have them last longer, so I can use my "deck" longer. But, I like the mechanics combination on this one, I like the way your action strength increase, and I want to encourage companies to do more game like this. I'll let you know next year, once I played a couple of games, if the 4 round is really a bother. True, when action become more and more powerful, that extra round might kill the fun. I like game where everyone is affected by the way you prepared it in the previous rounds, but I'm not a fan either when you can score more points in the last round, than you had in all the previous round combined. Anyway, great presentation, I'm ready for it, can't wait, it "should" be my latest pledge of the year. It's the first year, in my life, that I supported unplayed/unknown games, I did it 6 times... If they are mostly, if not all hits, I'll keep going, and maybe increase the quantity for 2021. :-)
Alex, when you’re hyped, I’m hyped. Will you be doing a should you back or not video to talk about pledge levels and aftermarket value? Also given limited shelf space, if you can only choose one, Lost Ruins of Arnak or Endless Winter? Thanks so much for another excellent video!
Now I'm jealous. This kinda feels like Dwellings of Eldervale was last year to me. Not in terms of the gameplay, but both were games that looked moderately intriguing, but every time I learned more about them I just got more and more excited about playing them. They went from "oh, maybe I'll check that one out when the campaign launches" to auto-back games. Credit where it's due, the publisher has done a fantastic job teasing out art and info to not just build hype, but give me a good reason for to be hyped. Dwellings was and still is my most anticipated game of 2020, and I wouldn't be shocked if Endless Winter the game I'm most looking forward to next year (which is saying something).
I have Arnak on pre-order so that one and this one will probably battle for a place in my collection but I'm happy seeing the evolution of the game mechanics. I'm looking forward to the kickstarter, hopefully it will be good and else it's just waiting for retail. Glad this one is already picked up! (But not surprised :p )
I often watch Quackalope videos and it quickly builds my hype or a game...but then go to your channel to calm that hype a little....and here you are, making me want it even more. Thank you for ruining my "no more games until 2021" resolution.
I’m very infested in backing this game, it has many elements I really like, also I don’t mind combining meeples with miniatures, they did in Scythe and it’s good
I'm super pumped for this game!! I LOVE engine builders with worker placement and hand management. The fact that there is a bit of area control mixed in is just icing on the cake for me. I can't wait to see what they unlock in this campaign given the quality of the prototype. I pumped for the playmat since I'm not crazy about the puzzle-piece-styled board. I'm assuming this was done in the prototype for storage purposes, but since there doesn't appear to be a path or spaces that can be rearranged to vary gameplay, I would rather have a mat or solid board as those will hold up better with much love and table time. It will also combine some of the various trackers and boards.
If you like deck building and worker placement you need to check out Obsessions 2nd. Edition. It’s fantastic! Also, if you like The Mico’s artwork you must try Dig Your Way Out. It’s both a great light and fast game that also looks good!
@@BoardGameCo Obsession is also a really great solo game. It comes with many play variants too. Dig Your Way Out excels at a higher player count but I have had great experiences two-player if using all expansions.
At an undisclosed location clouded in darkness the Secret Annual Designers Of Games 2021 (SADoG) all agree that combo of worker placement and deck building will be the new 2021 hotness. As they lift their glasses to the sky they all continue to vow "it is just coincidence!" hahahaha (group laughs maniacally)
Thanks for the review, you might have hooked me on yet another KS. So I'm curious, I happen to be covering the Younger Dryas impact event ~12.8ka years ago that basically resulted in a megafauna catastrophe that wiped them off the face of the planet in a few seconds to a few days due to a variety of possible reasons (disintegration, shock waves breaking all their limbs, flood/Tsunami, conflagration of most of the earths kindling (plants), and so forth. A few people and smaller species survived (probably the ones that had a few nice caves for shelter) and the rest is what we are familiar with today (see prehistory decoded on youtube for a VERY exhaustive review of nearly all the Younger Dryas Impact science research). I would really like to see this event be the event that ends the board game, and perhaps becomes the start of another survival expansion scenario without the megafauna. The Younger Dryas event is so incredibly important in the timeline of human history it would be really great if a game called Paleo would give a nod to it. In particular, what I'm very much NOT interested in is a game that suggested that the megafauna were hunted to extinction which is what the outdated viewpoints suggested. We need to stop promoting that idea through ANY medium and sharing the new discoveries: cometresearchgroup.org/comets-diamonds-mammoths/ , th-cam.com/channels/x11KXwumf5w8J-GdBGKNVA.htmlfeatured
@@fantasiaboardgames808 I finally got a chance to read the rules and noticed your first sentence ""Endless Winter is set in North America during the early days of human expansion, around 10,000 BCE. ". In light of my earlier post I've been trying to figure out a way to weave your choice into the evidence I've observed. the "Endless Winter" that I'm familiar with is from 12.8ka to 11.3ka (or 10,800 BCE to 9,500 BCE) so the good news is that is in your around 10,000 range - fantastic! (immediately prior to 12.8ka there was a warming period -not an Endless Winter) So what is the problem then since the winter would have had another 500 years to go before the Earth rapidly warmed up again when the Sun finally came out behind the frozen sky? Well consider this: "During the American megafaunal extinction event around 12,700 years ago, 90 genera of mammals weighing over 44 kilograms became extinct" So we could imagine then that many, most, or all of the animals you've selected may have been obliterated by the comet strike and its aftermath. Assuming you like your board game title and we stick to the Endless Winter, then I think you have to consider the "about" to be in that 100 year period between the comet strikes dating of the comet strike and the megafauna scientists dating of their extinction. Call it 10,800 to 10,700 BCE still fits in your "around" comment. So basically to fit the title Endless Winter rather than the comet strike being a natural end to your game it is actually a natural beginning to the story of "early days of human expansion". That said, I think its important to note that this early expansion was really a revival of mankind and its survivors of the worst calamity in human history...that this group of people would have been desperate to restore society after being nearly wiped out by the comet strike. Whatever megafuana they were hunting would also have been the last of their kind assuming any of them even survived the impact or its immediate aftermath. Mostly their ecological systems would have been obliterated and they too would be desperate for food. This 100 year aftermath among the megafauna would be akin to watching episodes of the surviving factions in the Walking Dead fighting over very scarce resources (canned goods) and the eventual attempt at resuming a normal society (farming and gathering) minus the zombies of course. I suggest considering the following resources to fill some blanks : th-cam.com/users/AntonioZamora-Carolina-Baysvideos as well as G. Hancock's "America Before". I wouldn't expect you to weave a picture of a comet strike in the background as the "dawn" of civilization nor really change anything since you could thread the needle of the timeline and suggest that you were steering into the beginning of the Endless Winter that Antonio Zamora prescribes to the formation of ice crystals in the atmosphere from the ice sheets being propelled up there from the comet strike and they took 1300 years to fall back to Earth and allowing the sunlight back in for "sudden" warming as they no longer reflected the sun away. The impact itself caused a giant fire aka the black mat but shortly after the disintegration, fire, flood/tsunami events, the earth would have cooled off to fit your title. It is in this darker time that your story/board game takes place. It would have been a terrible to experience the impact event itself but would have set the stage for your early expansion with perhaps a few remaining beasties to fight. I'll be happy to back your game with an all-in and encourage others to do so too. It seems easiest to suggest that the comet proceeded your story than after. thanks for taking the time to catch up with recent discoveries. Not only did these early cultures build megalithic structures but they recorded the comet event on them at Gobekli Tepe; and potentially at least 3-4 sites of astronomical mound sites of interest in the Americas. By the way something known as Halloween Fireballs are seen this time of year in the sky from the very same Taurid stream that is considered a likely source for this comet strike so we can all sit down in couple of years and play Endless Winter eating our spooky candy celebrating our ancient ancestor's surviving the comet strike and rebuilding civilization. Best of luck in your campaign! I suspect you arrived at your title rather blissfully thinking about the Ice Age in general, little did you know that you stumbled into the rest of the story (comet strike). If you were looking to make one change you could consider changing "during the early days of human expansion" to something like "in the immediate aftermath of the Younger Dryas Impact event". Of course you could leave it as is if you weren't comfortable accepting the growing consensus yet. Perhaps in the 25th anniversary edition, you'll decide to update it to reflect an even better understanding of these daunting days. I just appreciate you taking note of it and keeping any eye on it case you find it even more interesting to incorporate into your design.
This game kind of reminds me of Everdell; four rounds to get things done while gathering resources and trying to build an engine that will allow you to do more with every turn and trying to use your meeples as efficiently and sparingly as possible before going into the next season.
At the 32 second mark I checked out of this video... to go back this game, then came back to the video to find out why 😂 I love deckbuilders, love euro’s, and love good worker placement games (looking at you Garphill), so if Boardgameco says it’s his most anticipated game, and it’s got those tags, there was no reason to wait!
Haven't played Arnak yet, on the way. I would love to do a comparison of them at some point, and Dune Imperium. As far as Everdell, that's a tough one.....both Endless Winter and Everdell are top games for me. There is overlap in their feeling but not a ton.
@@BoardGameCo I would also really appreciate a comparison between those. Everdell is currently me and my wife's fav game, and we're deciding between either Endless Winter or Lost Ruins of Arnak.
The first time I saw this game, it reminded me of Uprising: The Last Emperor. The buildings, the hex tiles, the cards. Though after watching this I see how the mechanics differ. Not one I'll be backing, but interesting.
Looks great. Little surprised about removing the variability of animals to attenuate luck. Hunting and fishing have a good deal of luck involved so thematically, a little luck fits. Interesting though ...
I Alex, I am in ! A question : is a turn of a player not too long if you can make many actions in a round ? Or maybe you do only one action then it s at other player to make one and again it s your turn and so on until the end of a round ? Like bunnykingdom for example
Been reading BGG and a lot seem to be cooling down on this as they have on Arnak, but Dune seems to still be hot. I guess Ill wait for actual reviews of this one.
I've been eyeing this since I first heard about it a couple months ago. As you said, Anything with art by The Mico is a game I am right there. Monsters on Board is another one but I don't think I have the $$ to continue in the PM. The Deluxe version of that one seems like a no brainer. Curious what you meant by 'deluxified'. I've read that the price of the components they've shown is included at the base pledge. Then they will have a couple more expansions on top of the one that's included with the basic pledge - at an extra cost of course. Of course, what do I know? Looking forward to the campaign on Tuesday.
My main concern is about balance, if you go for hunting, and get those animals, but your opponent goes for area control or culture cards for example, which provides more benefits or something like that. I mean, i am concerned if after like 5 plays, everyone will take one approach/strategy on this game, as clearly, it is more benefitial .. And also a bit concerned about 2 player game, how is player interaction in this game, is there any? Or everyone just do their own thing and try to get more points by the end of the game? Thanks, as always, appreciate your videos. :)
Realistic concern....but what I will say is I found it amusing that someone on FB said the animal strategy was a waste of time....and then in our very next game the next day, the person who won, won via animals :)
I missed this in KS. I didn’t see it on there somehow. Life was busy and crazy I suppose. Hopefully I can late pledge. Wish I saw this as the campaign was live!
Alex, I saw your comments on The Gaming Goat on BGG, and I see they have Endless Winter for presale for cheaper than the KS. I’m confused by how TGG can offer preorders for KS games that haven’t even opened their pledge managers, yet, such as Endless Winter. They also offer discounted prices in comparison to the KS. As a customer, I am hesitant to pull the trigger on ordering KS games from TGG. What if I order a pre-order KS and they cancel my order or refund me for some reason? It seems that there have been a lot of complaints about orders not being shipped and refunded instead. I wouldn’t want to miss out on the KS version of the game that I could have pledged for during the campaign. What do you think of the fact they have 8 pages of KS games with marked down prices for KS that haven’t closed their pledge managers or have yet to be delivered? Thank you!
I know it has different mechanisms but it does remind me of Teotihuacan in the points salad, multi puzzle including spatial puzzle. How does it compare?
This is a new boardgame company yeah? Does that mean this might take two years to make instead of the usual one? Do designers all get together and decide what the key game mechanics are going to be for the year together? Dune, ruins, and now this.... Though this game looks the best of the three. Hoping the optional playmat will add some cohesion to all the different game locations, thereby being less fiddly. But that would be a extra cost to consider.
Dangit Alex. 3 things: 1. I was holding steady on not being interested in this, and now I'm a little bit excited. I don't like Mico's art style, but this one actually looks alright to me. 2. Level with me now: Endless Winter or Everdell? 3. I actually think Dune: Imperium will be the first Worker Placement + Deckbuilding game, although Endless Winter may have conceived the idea first...
1) Yep :) 2) Hard questions.....I think Endless. But not sure. Would want more plays of both to really make that kind of heartless unnecessary decision. 3) Ya, I'm interested in all 3.
Excited to see what the campaign offers. Think the art looks great but do feel with how many games The Mico is doing he's verging on over exposure though.
Sounds amazing but, and I'm not sure why, it's not pulling me in which I am absolutely delighted about because I just paid for my gaming table and my remaining funds are earmarked for Townsfolk Tussle and ISS Vanguard!
Hi Alex, I have seen some comments that the game laks player interaction what is you opinion about this? And do you know if some of the expansions adres this? I have sold Everdell despite the great production and bought Lancaster wich I enjoy much more dispite the lesser production.
@@BoardGameCo Thank you for your response! Just want to say I really like your videos and being critical with your feedback! I limiting myself of getting 1-2 boardgame this year. But given with covid situation, i don't think I can bring them to the table. Are you making a review for Feed the Kraken?
This sounds a lot like Everdell...... difference being the deck build vs. the tableu for the cards. Other than that..... very similar. And yes there are a few other components on the side that vary for each but core compoments? Very similar.
I liked the content of the video but a little better angle/editing to see the details on the cards and board would have made following along a lot easier.
Totally get it, some of my prior reviews have more of a focus on how to play, I'm experimenting with different styles right now and seeing which is a better fit for the audience.
But I've already backed two games this year, and that's my limit. Unless limits are meant to be broken..... I'll have to think about it. All right I'm back.
I'm getting the feeling that it was a big mistake to subscribe to your channel. A few months back I didn't bother about Kickstarter, and now I'm back or two from becoming a superbacker :D
Alex, why did I watch this video? I was already intrigued by the art for this one, but was sort of hoping it wouldn't be a game I would enjoy. Now I find you dipping into my wallet and spending my money. I am going to see if I can blame you for my future KS pledges!!!
@@BoardGameCo Fair enough. I trust your word as you have actually have several chances to play this one. I am looking forward to the campaign on this one!
@@BoardGameCo That's one thing I don't feel comfortable with these KS hypes. If I find some influencer telling me how great an upcoming movie is, I am sure I would still remember what that person said while I am watching that movie in the cinema, but this is so not the case for boardgames on KS, or everything on KS. which sucks on both sides: I am hyped but I cannot get the game; when I get the game I will be more hyped for other newer games.
So I went to check this out due to the hype. And I checked the Kickstarter to see the testimonial and, do you think it is ironic that your testimonial looks to be the kind you yourself are critical of? It doesn't say much about the gameplay or quality, just mentioned your hypeman phase
What do you mean? I look for enthusiasm and firm statements in testimonials....exactly what I gave. The testimonials I'm critical of are things that aren't enthusiastic and say stuff like " the game looks great on the table" or other such nonsense. I called it an evergreen....that's a firm statement about how I feel.
@@BoardGameCo agree to disagree. I think people could interpret that as. Hey guys I've been hyped about this game and it'll be around a long time. (I may or may not buy it, but you will see it around). Of course watching your clips I know how firm you are, but reading it -i dont think carries the message for me
Looks really interesting, but I’ll have to skip this and Arnak. I’m not going to play a game including idol worship. I know it’s a large part of a lot of cultures but I’m not supposed to be worshiping idols other than the one true God, so I feel a personal conviction not to be pretending to do it either. Other than that the game looks amazing!
I'm always tense when listening to your videos because I don't know if the childrens I hear are mine or yours 😂
Lol that's fair :)
This is my #1 most expected KS campaign of 2020 and game of 2021. It plays soooo smooth and is so rewarding.
Yes!
Had to give this video another viewing while waiting for my pledge to get shipped out. So excited for this to arrive. And hoping everyone at the fulfillment center recovers fully.
I was going to NOT back anything till Christmas, but now I'm not sure if I will stand with this resolution :D damn you game designers! :D
Apologies...but also not. This one is an evergreen for me.
Really excited to see this one. Worker placement and deckbuilding are favorites at our household
Yep!
Great Preview. I know you don’t want to edit but in a case like this a b-roll with a few shots that pan over components would have been really amazing.
One day would love to...just need more time.
I think that b-rolls are overrated. I also watched the Quackalope preview and it was so annoying that when he was talking about various components he edited in some b-rolls. I wanted him to show me the components he was talking about. I watched his video two times and I was still confused after.
@@rb3152 But what stands in the way of panning over parts of the game that are relevant in that segment? Quackalope's B-Rolls are often confusing I agree.
I absolutely love this game. I’ve lost twice already but I can’t wait to play it again. More games like this me this please
Hello Alex! As I'm getting to know you better, watching videos weekly, I'm starting to very common trait, board game wise, between each other. I can't wait to back this game. A friend of mine got a copy to review, showed me a few pictures, I read his critics, and the minute he posted in online (in French), he wrote a message to me saying, i know you don't like many limited round games, but you will absolutely love this. After viewing your video and noticing the presence of the game on your table, seeing your excitement, and pros and cons, there's no way I'm not backing this game.
True, I'm a bit skeptical about the 4 rounds, as I love desk/dice/bag building game, and I normally find ways to have them last longer, so I can use my "deck" longer. But, I like the mechanics combination on this one, I like the way your action strength increase, and I want to encourage companies to do more game like this. I'll let you know next year, once I played a couple of games, if the 4 round is really a bother. True, when action become more and more powerful, that extra round might kill the fun. I like game where everyone is affected by the way you prepared it in the previous rounds, but I'm not a fan either when you can score more points in the last round, than you had in all the previous round combined.
Anyway, great presentation, I'm ready for it, can't wait, it "should" be my latest pledge of the year. It's the first year, in my life, that I supported unplayed/unknown games, I did it 6 times... If they are mostly, if not all hits, I'll keep going, and maybe increase the quantity for 2021. :-)
upcomming Dune:Imperium game is also a deck builder x worker placement :D
Yep! I forgot about it when I did this video :)
As is Obsession.
Alex, when you’re hyped, I’m hyped.
Will you be doing a should you back or not video to talk about pledge levels and aftermarket value?
Also given limited shelf space, if you can only choose one, Lost Ruins of Arnak or Endless Winter?
Thanks so much for another excellent video!
Of course :) And for now Endless, as I haven't played Arnak.
@@BoardGameCo will you be playing Arnak any time soon?
@@Vascariz I have a copy coming but unsure of when I'm getting or playing.
Now I'm jealous. This kinda feels like Dwellings of Eldervale was last year to me. Not in terms of the gameplay, but both were games that looked moderately intriguing, but every time I learned more about them I just got more and more excited about playing them. They went from "oh, maybe I'll check that one out when the campaign launches" to auto-back games. Credit where it's due, the publisher has done a fantastic job teasing out art and info to not just build hype, but give me a good reason for to be hyped. Dwellings was and still is my most anticipated game of 2020, and I wouldn't be shocked if Endless Winter the game I'm most looking forward to next year (which is saying something).
Reminds me a bit more of Teotihuacan with the pyramid building and different tracks
I haven't played Dwellings but this one is awesome. I am hyped about Dwellings though :)
Woo super excited for this game!
Yes :)
I have Arnak on pre-order so that one and this one will probably battle for a place in my collection but I'm happy seeing the evolution of the game mechanics.
I'm looking forward to the kickstarter, hopefully it will be good and else it's just waiting for retail. Glad this one is already picked up! (But not surprised :p )
I need to play Arnak too :)
And then there will be Dune Imperium. That will be difficult.
I often watch Quackalope videos and it quickly builds my hype or a game...but then go to your channel to calm that hype a little....and here you are, making me want it even more.
Thank you for ruining my "no more games until 2021" resolution.
#noapologiesthistime
I’m very infested in backing this game, it has many elements I really like, also I don’t mind combining meeples with miniatures, they did in Scythe and it’s good
Yep, I'm wary of it, but it didn't bother me here.
I'm super pumped for this game!! I LOVE engine builders with worker placement and hand management. The fact that there is a bit of area control mixed in is just icing on the cake for me. I can't wait to see what they unlock in this campaign given the quality of the prototype. I pumped for the playmat since I'm not crazy about the puzzle-piece-styled board. I'm assuming this was done in the prototype for storage purposes, but since there doesn't appear to be a path or spaces that can be rearranged to vary gameplay, I would rather have a mat or solid board as those will hold up better with much love and table time. It will also combine some of the various trackers and boards.
If you like deck building and worker placement you need to check out Obsessions 2nd. Edition. It’s fantastic! Also, if you like The Mico’s artwork you must try Dig Your Way Out. It’s both a great light and fast game that also looks good!
Both added to my list :)
@@BoardGameCo Obsession is also a really great solo game. It comes with many play variants too. Dig Your Way Out excels at a higher player count but I have had great experiences two-player if using all expansions.
At an undisclosed location clouded in darkness the Secret Annual Designers Of Games 2021 (SADoG) all agree that combo of worker placement and deck building will be the new 2021 hotness. As they lift their glasses to the sky they all continue to vow "it is just coincidence!" hahahaha (group laughs maniacally)
Probably was a thing.
Thanks for the review, you might have hooked me on yet another KS. So I'm curious, I happen to be covering the Younger Dryas impact event ~12.8ka years ago that basically resulted in a megafauna catastrophe that wiped them off the face of the planet in a few seconds to a few days due to a variety of possible reasons (disintegration, shock waves breaking all their limbs, flood/Tsunami, conflagration of most of the earths kindling (plants), and so forth. A few people and smaller species survived (probably the ones that had a few nice caves for shelter) and the rest is what we are familiar with today (see prehistory decoded on youtube for a VERY exhaustive review of nearly all the Younger Dryas Impact science research). I would really like to see this event be the event that ends the board game, and perhaps becomes the start of another survival expansion scenario without the megafauna. The Younger Dryas event is so incredibly important in the timeline of human history it would be really great if a game called Paleo would give a nod to it. In particular, what I'm very much NOT interested in is a game that suggested that the megafauna were hunted to extinction which is what the outdated viewpoints suggested. We need to stop promoting that idea through ANY medium and sharing the new discoveries: cometresearchgroup.org/comets-diamonds-mammoths/ , th-cam.com/channels/x11KXwumf5w8J-GdBGKNVA.htmlfeatured
I'll admit to being 100% ignorant to basically everything you said....this isn't an era I know much about.
@@BoardGameCo Here is a 4-5 min summary. th-cam.com/video/j6-Y_sxAsb8/w-d-xo.html :)
Thank you for sharing. It’s really interesting.
@@fantasiaboardgames808 I finally got a chance to read the rules and noticed your first sentence ""Endless Winter is set in North America during the early days of human expansion, around 10,000 BCE. ". In light of my earlier post I've been trying to figure out a way to weave your choice into the evidence I've observed. the "Endless Winter" that I'm familiar with is from 12.8ka to 11.3ka (or 10,800 BCE to 9,500 BCE) so the good news is that is in your around 10,000 range - fantastic! (immediately prior to 12.8ka there was a warming period -not an Endless Winter) So what is the problem then since the winter would have had another 500 years to go before the Earth rapidly warmed up again when the Sun finally came out behind the frozen sky? Well consider this: "During the American megafaunal extinction event around 12,700 years ago, 90 genera of mammals weighing over 44 kilograms became extinct" So we could imagine then that many, most, or all of the animals you've selected may have been obliterated by the comet strike and its aftermath. Assuming you like your board game title and we stick to the Endless Winter, then I think you have to consider the "about" to be in that 100 year period between the comet strikes dating of the comet strike and the megafauna scientists dating of their extinction. Call it 10,800 to 10,700 BCE still fits in your "around" comment. So basically to fit the title Endless Winter rather than the comet strike being a natural end to your game it is actually a natural beginning to the story of "early days of human expansion". That said, I think its important to note that this early expansion was really a revival of mankind and its survivors of the worst calamity in human history...that this group of people would have been desperate to restore society after being nearly wiped out by the comet strike. Whatever megafuana they were hunting would also have been the last of their kind assuming any of them even survived the impact or its immediate aftermath. Mostly their ecological systems would have been obliterated and they too would be desperate for food. This 100 year aftermath among the megafauna would be akin to watching episodes of the surviving factions in the Walking Dead fighting over very scarce resources (canned goods) and the eventual attempt at resuming a normal society (farming and gathering) minus the zombies of course. I suggest considering the following resources to fill some blanks : th-cam.com/users/AntonioZamora-Carolina-Baysvideos as well as G. Hancock's "America Before". I wouldn't expect you to weave a picture of a comet strike in the background as the "dawn" of civilization nor really change anything since you could thread the needle of the timeline and suggest that you were steering into the beginning of the Endless Winter that Antonio Zamora prescribes to the formation of ice crystals in the atmosphere from the ice sheets being propelled up there from the comet strike and they took 1300 years to fall back to Earth and allowing the sunlight back in for "sudden" warming as they no longer reflected the sun away. The impact itself caused a giant fire aka the black mat but shortly after the disintegration, fire, flood/tsunami events, the earth would have cooled off to fit your title. It is in this darker time that your story/board game takes place. It would have been a terrible to experience the impact event itself but would have set the stage for your early expansion with perhaps a few remaining beasties to fight. I'll be happy to back your game with an all-in and encourage others to do so too. It seems easiest to suggest that the comet proceeded your story than after. thanks for taking the time to catch up with recent discoveries. Not only did these early cultures build megalithic structures but they recorded the comet event on them at Gobekli Tepe; and potentially at least 3-4 sites of astronomical mound sites of interest in the Americas. By the way something known as Halloween Fireballs are seen this time of year in the sky from the very same Taurid stream that is considered a likely source for this comet strike so we can all sit down in couple of years and play Endless Winter eating our spooky candy celebrating our ancient ancestor's surviving the comet strike and rebuilding civilization. Best of luck in your campaign! I suspect you arrived at your title rather blissfully thinking about the Ice Age in general, little did you know that you stumbled into the rest of the story (comet strike). If you were looking to make one change you could consider changing "during the early days of human expansion" to something like "in the immediate aftermath of the Younger Dryas Impact event". Of course you could leave it as is if you weren't comfortable accepting the growing consensus yet. Perhaps in the 25th anniversary edition, you'll decide to update it to reflect an even better understanding of these daunting days. I just appreciate you taking note of it and keeping any eye on it case you find it even more interesting to incorporate into your design.
This game kind of reminds me of Everdell; four rounds to get things done while gathering resources and trying to build an engine that will allow you to do more with every turn and trying to use your meeples as efficiently and sparingly as possible before going into the next season.
Yep, it very much has an everdell feeling despite sharing minimal mechanisms.
At the 32 second mark I checked out of this video... to go back this game, then came back to the video to find out why 😂 I love deckbuilders, love euro’s, and love good worker placement games (looking at you Garphill), so if Boardgameco says it’s his most anticipated game, and it’s got those tags, there was no reason to wait!
Lol thanks :)
How would you compare this to the Lost Ruins of Arnak or Everdell?
Great question, following
@BoardGameCo I also wonder what your thoughts are on this, Alex?
Thank you Kal El for reading my mind more I saw Alex talking about this. A comparison video between them would be interesting.
Haven't played Arnak yet, on the way. I would love to do a comparison of them at some point, and Dune Imperium. As far as Everdell, that's a tough one.....both Endless Winter and Everdell are top games for me. There is overlap in their feeling but not a ton.
@@BoardGameCo I would also really appreciate a comparison between those. Everdell is currently me and my wife's fav game, and we're deciding between either Endless Winter or Lost Ruins of Arnak.
I am intrigued, need to see a playthrough first. Lost ruins of Arnak did not grab me so maybe this one will.
I haven't played Arnak yet...but looking forward to it.
Was almost gonna back this. Dodged a bullet. Thanks.
What are your favorite games? I'm curious as this one is going to be one of mine for sure.
The first time I saw this game, it reminded me of Uprising: The Last Emperor. The buildings, the hex tiles, the cards. Though after watching this I see how the mechanics differ. Not one I'll be backing, but interesting.
Totally different games (having played both). But I do love this one.
Looks great. Little surprised about removing the variability of animals to attenuate luck. Hunting and fishing have a good deal of luck involved so thematically, a little luck fits. Interesting though ...
Thematically sure....but accuracy in games isn't always fun....or war games would have more real life death :)
Umm, ok? Did I say they should throw some atlatls in the box ...
Alex dont forget Dune Imperium. It is hand building / worker placement too.
Yes! I did forget it when filming.
I Alex, I am in ! A question : is a turn of a player not too long if you can make many actions in a round ? Or maybe you do only one action then it s at other player to make one and again it s your turn and so on until the end of a round ? Like bunnykingdom for example
You take one action at a time.
Seems very interesting. And the art is looking good. A lot to manage though. Curious to see how it will play at two.
I've enjoyed at 2 in my one play, but most plays have been with more.
Been reading BGG and a lot seem to be cooling down on this as they have on Arnak, but Dune seems to still be hot. I guess Ill wait for actual reviews of this one.
Cooling? On the game that hasn't arrived?
I've been eyeing this since I first heard about it a couple months ago. As you said, Anything with art by The Mico is a game I am right there. Monsters on Board is another one but I don't think I have the $$ to continue in the PM. The Deluxe version of that one seems like a no brainer. Curious what you meant by 'deluxified'. I've read that the price of the components they've shown is included at the base pledge. Then they will have a couple more expansions on top of the one that's included with the basic pledge - at an extra cost of course. Of course, what do I know?
Looking forward to the campaign on Tuesday.
They have a bunch of nice extras coming in the campaign :)
My main concern is about balance, if you go for hunting, and get those animals, but your opponent goes for area control or culture cards for example, which provides more benefits or something like that. I mean, i am concerned if after like 5 plays, everyone will take one approach/strategy on this game, as clearly, it is more benefitial .. And also a bit concerned about 2 player game, how is player interaction in this game, is there any? Or everyone just do their own thing and try to get more points by the end of the game?
Thanks, as always, appreciate your videos. :)
Realistic concern....but what I will say is I found it amusing that someone on FB said the animal strategy was a waste of time....and then in our very next game the next day, the person who won, won via animals :)
I missed this in KS. I didn’t see it on there somehow. Life was busy and crazy I suppose. Hopefully I can late pledge. Wish I saw this as the campaign was live!
You should still be able to late pledge :)
I do believe tyrants of the under dark predated all of the games you mentioned and it is a deck builder worker placement.
Alex,
I saw your comments on The Gaming Goat on BGG, and I see they have Endless Winter for presale for cheaper than the KS.
I’m confused by how TGG can offer preorders for KS games that haven’t even opened their pledge managers, yet, such as Endless Winter. They also offer discounted prices in comparison to the KS.
As a customer, I am hesitant to pull the trigger on ordering KS games from TGG.
What if I order a pre-order KS and they cancel my order or refund me for some reason? It seems that there have been a lot of complaints about orders not being shipped and refunded instead.
I wouldn’t want to miss out on the KS version of the game that I could have pledged for during the campaign.
What do you think of the fact they have 8 pages of KS games with marked down prices for KS that haven’t closed their pledge managers or have yet to be delivered?
Thank you!
Already replied to your geekmail :)
Looking forward to this one - but at 4 players it’s gonna need a lot of table.
Yes :) We've played primarily 3 here, most of my 4 player plays have been TTS.
Dang it! Most likely backing now
Enjoy it :)
Do you think this requires a lot of table space? More than Rush MD? If deck building is not my favorite genre, will I still like this?
I know it has different mechanisms but it does remind me of Teotihuacan in the points salad, multi puzzle including spatial puzzle. How does it compare?
Haven't played that one yet :( on my shelf.
@@BoardGameCo oh look forward to you playing that. I've heard the first expansion fixed a potential dominant strategy.
This is a new boardgame company yeah? Does that mean this might take two years to make instead of the usual one?
Do designers all get together and decide what the key game mechanics are going to be for the year together? Dune, ruins, and now this.... Though this game looks the best of the three.
Hoping the optional playmat will add some cohesion to all the different game locations, thereby being less fiddly. But that would be a extra cost to consider.
Couple be, but I don't assume it will be late....solid team that has done a tremendous job so far.
Dangit Alex. 3 things:
1. I was holding steady on not being interested in this, and now I'm a little bit excited. I don't like Mico's art style, but this one actually looks alright to me.
2. Level with me now: Endless Winter or Everdell?
3. I actually think Dune: Imperium will be the first Worker Placement + Deckbuilding game, although Endless Winter may have conceived the idea first...
1) Yep :)
2) Hard questions.....I think Endless. But not sure. Would want more plays of both to really make that kind of heartless unnecessary decision.
3) Ya, I'm interested in all 3.
@@BoardGameCo Got any more plays in? Got an updated answer to #2?
What's your favorite game that features The Mico's art?
Endless Winter now :) Valeria Card Kingdoms next I think.
Excited to see what the campaign offers. Think the art looks great but do feel with how many games The Mico is doing he's verging on over exposure though.
I can't agree :) designers I can feel that dilution hurts the quality....but rarity of an artist I like doesn't make me like it more.
a playmatte is just 1 more thing to setup. they simply need to make one big board
I believe the goal is specifically to give people more options on how this fits on the table.
@@BoardGameCo I heard you say playmat and my wallet wept. :) I loves me some player mat!!!!!!
Sounds amazing but, and I'm not sure why, it's not pulling me in which I am absolutely delighted about because I just paid for my gaming table and my remaining funds are earmarked for Townsfolk Tussle and ISS Vanguard!
lol, it's always safest when you don't feel the need to back :)
Hi Alex, I have seen some comments that the game laks player interaction what is you opinion about this? And do you know if some of the expansions adres this? I have sold Everdell despite the great production and bought Lancaster wich I enjoy much more dispite the lesser production.
I cover it in today's video :)
I am curious how is the solo play gonna be like? Will the solo mode has a different exp?
No idea but I've heard good things so far
@@BoardGameCo Thank you for your response! Just want to say I really like your videos and being critical with your feedback!
I limiting myself of getting 1-2 boardgame this year. But given with covid situation, i don't think I can bring them to the table. Are you making a review for Feed the Kraken?
@@khianlimfoo9724 not a review but will likely talk about the campaign
2 minutes in and stopping this one. I can tell you’re going to talk my into wanting this game too. Lol!
Good call ;)
Hmm Arnak might be the safer bet and can get it now...but this is looking really good.
For myself Endless is safer as I've played it....but for you agreed :)
When you say "distribution partners", do you mean the game is coming to retail or for the KS?
This game looks fun and stunning
This sounds a lot like Everdell...... difference being the deck build vs. the tableu for the cards. Other than that..... very similar. And yes there are a few other components on the side that vary for each but core compoments? Very similar.
This is a new OK or late pledge? I looks interesting
KS starts Tuesday Oct 27th
Coming shortly :)
@@BoardGameCo thanks I will most likely back it
The way you describe the development of your turns sounds a lot like Imperial Settlers.
They do have that common aspect of slowly being able to do more and more, but no similarties past that for me.
I liked the content of the video but a little better angle/editing to see the details on the cards and board would have made following along a lot easier.
Totally get it, some of my prior reviews have more of a focus on how to play, I'm experimenting with different styles right now and seeing which is a better fit for the audience.
What's the release date Alex? :))
27th :)
But I've already backed two games this year, and that's my limit. Unless limits are meant to be broken..... I'll have to think about it. All right I'm back.
lol, this one is awesome :)
I'm getting the feeling that it was a big mistake to subscribe to your channel. A few months back I didn't bother about Kickstarter, and now I'm back or two from becoming a superbacker :D
On the one hand... I'm sorry :-) on the other hand... Happy to have you along for the ride ☺️
I hear you, man. I kinda feel the same now. I wasn't a Kickstarter person. I'm actually against it. But here I am ...
Seems like I’m gonna have to work another day in a weekend... 🤷♂️🙄
#worthit
Alex, why did I watch this video? I was already intrigued by the art for this one, but was sort of hoping it wouldn't be a game I would enjoy. Now I find you dipping into my wallet and spending my money. I am going to see if I can blame you for my future KS pledges!!!
I'll apologize on some...not on this one. Really love it.
@@BoardGameCo Fair enough. I trust your word as you have actually have several chances to play this one. I am looking forward to the campaign on this one!
How do you have it already?
This was a prototype for a review coverage back doing the campaign.
Then I realize i need to wait another 12 months to get this game....
Yep :(
@@BoardGameCo That's one thing I don't feel comfortable with these KS hypes. If I find some influencer telling me how great an upcoming movie is, I am sure I would still remember what that person said while I am watching that movie in the cinema, but this is so not the case for boardgames on KS, or everything on KS. which sucks on both sides: I am hyped but I cannot get the game; when I get the game I will be more hyped for other newer games.
So I went to check this out due to the hype. And I checked the Kickstarter to see the testimonial and, do you think it is ironic that your testimonial looks to be the kind you yourself are critical of? It doesn't say much about the gameplay or quality, just mentioned your hypeman phase
What do you mean? I look for enthusiasm and firm statements in testimonials....exactly what I gave. The testimonials I'm critical of are things that aren't enthusiastic and say stuff like " the game looks great on the table" or other such nonsense. I called it an evergreen....that's a firm statement about how I feel.
@@BoardGameCo agree to disagree. I think people could interpret that as. Hey guys I've been hyped about this game and it'll be around a long time. (I may or may not buy it, but you will see it around). Of course watching your clips I know how firm you are, but reading it -i dont think carries the message for me
did he say "deck weaving"?
Deck building....I assume :)
Deck weeding....thinning out your deck
Stop it! Quit recommending games. Now I want to back the KS.
Oh well... Let me go get the CC. 😀
Lol, apologies....but I am psyched :)
Quarter 1 of 2022 :/
:(
Kill for their food? Lol.
Yes :)
Looks really interesting, but I’ll have to skip this and Arnak. I’m not going to play a game including idol worship.
I know it’s a large part of a lot of cultures but I’m not supposed to be worshiping idols other than the one true God, so I feel a personal conviction not to be pretending to do it either.
Other than that the game looks amazing!
I respect that.