Oh, Liz! At last I could watch it properly..I ve been counting minutes. The vid is amazing! I think, it summarizes all of their story through a song, through Gaz's song.. from anger, despair and frustration to their hands on garys heart,hugging.. It is the true progress.. It fulfils the chamber somehow. You know, what mark s said about eight letters is also true for this song. and to me, that s why it is a classic. Because it is real. they are real..
hI lizzie, I love all of ur videos. Rob and Gas always are my best idols. as the " I tried love" by rob, I knew Rob missed Gas so much ...They're just the sweetest couple
I lizzie, I love all of ur videos. Rob and Gas always are my best idols. as the " I tried love" by rob, I knew Rob missed Gas so much ...They're just the sweetest couple
I watched all of your videos and I'm loving it all. I admire you for the amount of the effort you put into every single video. I've always loved these two, and your videos make me love them even more. Rob in the past is so hurtful that it makes me flinch, and how oblivioius Gary was to the fact Rob was hurting/suffering... It's such a relief that it's all just the past now and they made up. I love them for that.
@lizbennetgenova .... (GRIN!!) awesome.. fantastic... where the heck did you find all those video clips.. my goodness, what hard work you put into your creations.. I am, as always, in total awe of your efforts.. good work Bella!!
You always make my day when I watch your vids. It's awesome. I'm aware of how much work is behind every single vid, and not only work, but also the love you put into them. I always think that I don't say enough how much I appreaciate what you do. Well, amazing vid, there's nothing more to say, really. Thanks so much for sharing!
I really love your videos. You have the ability to catch the most short and meaningful moments between these too. Keep up the good work and look forward to seeing more. PS Have you ever thought of making a video with Gary's song Yesterday's Girl? Now those are some awesome lyrics and very explicit lol...
i wanted to watch the full documentary about back for good but it's not available because of copyright blah blah, now after watching your video, i really want to see it
wow your vids are the best. thanks for all your hard work!! I particularly adore the Cobra story. thank for sharing it. the love they shared must be really strong
@winasls Thank you so much,I do love the boys.I really think when they're together something magic happens.I don't care if their choices are not that brave, I'm nobody 2 tell them 'you should say that' or 'you should do this'.. I just love them no matter what. I've always loved them,I've grown up with them,I've always hoped things could turn right I'm just glad 2 see them smile again,I just want them 2 be as happy as they can.Glad you loved the vid & thanks 4 taking the time 2 leave your comment
@brok341 Thanks a lot for taking the time to comment on here! I've watched a loooooot of vids in fact, but I knew what I was looking for because I had already watched them in the past.. glad you loved xx
(2/2) If you're interested in the topic, you should check the 2 versions of 'today I lost you'. Gary wrote it in 1995 and changed the lyrics in 2005 (almost nobody knows). I'll send you an useful link as I've the time to find it out.
@Ishtar1929 Thanks a lot. Being honest, yes it has been quite an hard work because you need 2 find the stuff, then you have 2 download it & cut it.. then you have 2 write subtitles 2 help people unable t2understand spoken english & 2 cut off every unuseful inch because you have 2 stay in 15 min. FInally you have to upload it and write the descpription. BTW I do love the guys & I do it just for this reason. I'm very grateful you appreciated & I'll manage to answer your mp tomorrow! x
Hi, here on YT...I don't rememer what show it was... but if it's still on here, you just have to try with 'back for good live' or something like that... sorry for not being more helpful
@scp4ever91 Hi thank you very much for your compliments and for taking the time to watch my vids and to leave your comment! Yeah, that's an interesting song .. the official version says he's speaking about Howard and his (ex)girlfriend and about the fact How shared his troubles with him. We can think it's true or not...
@lisaden77 Thank you very much! And thanks twice for taking the time to leave your comment on here! You were not the only one wondering about those lyrics ... some points in particular ... XD!
@brian2791 Thanks for leaving your comment, yes I agree... in the first part he was really angry. In particular when he sang "washed-up" after the line of the lipstick mark..it means it was personal for him..very personal. And he didn't sing "washed off", he sang "washed up", the meaning is slightly different.. and worse. Then things changed..
@lunakutres I'm so grateful you took the time 2 leave a comment here..yeah BFG is special, it's a mix of true lines & fake 1s but still you see the truth behind;the heartbreaking part 4 me has always been "I figured out this story, it wasn't good, but in a corner of my mind I celebrated glory, but it was not to be".Since I was a child, before I got it, I always felt it was "weird" & very sad. Why was he obliged 2 celebrate glory just in a corner of his mind,why was it wrong,why was it not to be?
About the question you asked on my channel wall, I'm afraid I don't have the vid. I see and cut thousands vids, so I'd need 4 netbooks & 10 hard disks to keep all the stuff. Once I've uploaded my vids, I delete all the vids tied in with them. That interview you mentioned was filmed in sweden if I'm not wrong & it was on YT, but I think it's been removed due 2 copyright iusses (not sure though).
@innerchild2002 Hi, I'm well, hope you're fine too! Thanks a lot for taking the time to watch it..let me know if you come into troubles with the others! Abs agree... it doesn't matter if they're gonna be honest or not..if they sold us lies (well, I never believed XD) ..I don't judge and I don't care.. I think each man in this world just wants to be loved for being who he truly is and...they have to know they are loved just for being themselves xx
+claudusiaa101 hello, thank you very much. I hope next year I'll be able to make new ones, with the reunion and everything...I can't wait for new material! Now, unfortunately I don't know anything more about it to be honest (I know that in TT especially Rob and Mark they used to go shopping and ring and clothes were some of their targets, but that's just a general consideration). I found the 'time line' very interesting though.. I mean BFG is openly dedicated to a person Gary was dating / he was in love with back then and fixes the moment when things started to go downhill, which is around 1994 ('Today I've lost you' is the sequel of BFG and it was written in 1995); now Gary said he took inspiration from the ring when he wrote BFG, so this ring might have some connection with that person he was dating / he was in love with.. maybe it was a present; the question that arises, then, is: if things were going downhill with this person when he wrote BFG (1994), definitely ended badly as stated in Today I've lost you (1995) and given that and in 1995 he found a new person (Dawn), then WHY THE HELL was he still wearing that ring in 1996? Wasn't this highly disrespectful to his new girlfriend and future wife?! I think every woman would be furious if their partner wore a ring reminding him of his ex. I think Gary wore it to send out a message, so that (only) the person who shares with him the story of this ring would be able to recognize it and infer that he still cared and didn't throw the ring into the toilet. If you think about it, in 2009, when Rob and Gary started to make up, Rob went to a gig whoich was recorded on TV wearing as a bracelet an old necklace that he and Gary had, identical, in the old days (I think one time Howard wore it too, but I don't know if all of them had one or if Gary gave it to Howard, they all exchanged clothes and stuff) and both continued to wear in 1996. I've never ever seen Robbie with that necklace again, until 2009. The same kind of interesting timeline is with Today I've lost you: he realized a version of the song in 1995 (an angry breakup song that was never realized, he just sang it live once or twice) and then, then years later, when he released the song, he changed the lyrics. This might have some sense, if he changed them from 'I'm angry' to 'less angry, like oh well, it's childhood memories, my first important breakup', but instead, he changed them into 'I'm still here if you are too', which doesn't make any sense because he was supposed to be super-happily married when the wrote the song back in 2005. Twice if you think that he underlined on the CD cover that the song is the sequel of BFG. Why should he even care of a girlfriend he lost in 1994-1995, when he was happily married since 1999-2000? And why does he get so emotional talking about this song in 2010?! It's been 15 years...it doesn't make any sense. Unless, of course, you change your perspective.. and that's what I tried to do.
+lizbennetgenova Thank you for such a quick answer! I appreciate your taking the time to write it. And thanks for the new hints, it makes much more sense to me now. I also can't wait for new material and the new vids of yours :)
Hi thanks again for watching my vids! Personally, I think it's a fake line. When the song came out, I was young & teen agers didn't know anything about gay things in the 90's.But I felt this song had something "wrong".It was just a feeling, you know, I could't focus on it. I understood years later, when 'No regrets' was out, that it was because BFG is a mix of fake commercial lines & true concerns. GB started 2 date his wife after Rob left the band (or at least that's what was said).
Actually, Gary let Mark try to sing it, but it didn't work well so they decided Gary was going to sing it. It has happened a lot of times that Mark sang Gary's own songs, in particular when Gary didn't want to sing some songs he felt were too personal. But not in this case.. Gary wrote it and sang it as well.
Hi lizbennet, I was wondering where did you get that quote from Nigel M. Smith about backstory of 'Back for good'? I've been searching on youtube and google, but couldn't find anything! I really appreciate your effort in making these videos, you did a wonderfull job! :)
Now, it was a 2010 interview, published some time later.. Nigel appeared to be angry with TT and gave this interview ... you can find some extracts here for example, both in english and italian, but it's not the whole thing, some parts were cut: takethatultimateforum (dot) forumfree (dot) it (slash) ?t=55254801, I think the interview was called "nigel martin smith looks back in anger at take that"; then, as for what I understood, of course we never had anything 'official' about it, Gary managed to make him calm and he said better things about 'his boys'. Same yrs later, when Nigel published that comment after Rob marriage, when he said it's a pity when gay men hide and marry and that more than 1 TT member is gay, then he cancelled the comment some time later, apparently - again, a guess - after Gary had a said in it.
@musicisrockingmylyf I'm sorry you can't watch it.. I swear I've included all the meaningful parts in here... then you find some generic things, some of the usual lies, some compliments by dj and people...nothing more than this
No I certainly haven't ever seen such a lovely guy couple as this...
Oh, Liz! At last I could watch it properly..I ve been counting minutes. The vid is amazing! I think, it summarizes all of their story through a song, through Gaz's song.. from anger, despair and frustration to their hands on garys heart,hugging.. It is the true progress.. It fulfils the chamber somehow. You know, what mark s said about eight letters is also true for this song. and to me, that s why it is a classic. Because it is real. they are real..
hI lizzie, I love all of ur videos. Rob and Gas always are my best idols. as the " I tried love" by rob, I knew Rob missed Gas so much ...They're just the sweetest couple
I lizzie, I love all of ur videos. Rob and Gas always are my best idols. as the " I tried love" by rob, I knew Rob missed Gas so much ...They're just the sweetest couple
Hi, yes they truly are! I love them so much, since the 90's..; thanks a lot 4 taking the time to watch my vids, glad you loved them!
I watched all of your videos and I'm loving it all. I admire you for the amount of the effort you put into every single video. I've always loved these two, and your videos make me love them even more. Rob in the past is so hurtful that it makes me flinch, and how oblivioius Gary was to the fact Rob was hurting/suffering... It's such a relief that it's all just the past now and they made up. I love them for that.
@lizbennetgenova .... (GRIN!!) awesome.. fantastic... where the heck did you find all those video clips.. my goodness, what hard work you put into your creations.. I am, as always, in total awe of your efforts.. good work Bella!!
You always make my day when I watch your vids. It's awesome. I'm aware of how much work is behind every single vid, and not only work, but also the love you put into them. I always think that I don't say enough how much I appreaciate what you do. Well, amazing vid, there's nothing more to say, really. Thanks so much for sharing!
Another brilliant video! I always found the lyrics to this song very 'interesting' :)
I really love your videos. You have the ability to catch the most short and meaningful moments between these too. Keep up the good work and look forward to seeing more.
PS Have you ever thought of making a video with Gary's song Yesterday's Girl? Now those are some awesome lyrics and very explicit lol...
I remember reading an article on the song that it was an afterthought for the album and that Mark wanted to sing its lead vocals.
lovely..thanks
i wanted to watch the full documentary about back for good but it's not available because of copyright blah blah, now after watching your video, i really want to see it
wow your vids are the best. thanks for all your hard work!! I particularly adore the Cobra story. thank for sharing it. the love they shared must be really strong
+Pamelia Yulianto thank you :-)
+lizbennetgenova I mean 'Conrad' hahahaha
@winasls Thank you so much,I do love the boys.I really think when they're together something magic happens.I don't care if their choices are not that brave, I'm nobody 2 tell them 'you should say that' or 'you should do this'.. I just love them no matter what. I've always loved them,I've grown up with them,I've always hoped things could turn right I'm just glad 2 see them smile again,I just want them 2 be as happy as they can.Glad you loved the vid & thanks 4 taking the time 2 leave your comment
@mysteryspotlight Thank you very much, very kind of you. Glad you loved x
I really love your vids. their thing are so real.
+Caio Henrique Garcia thank you glad you like them
@brok341 Thanks a lot for taking the time to comment on here! I've watched a loooooot of vids in fact, but I knew what I was looking for because I had already watched them in the past.. glad you loved xx
Thank you !! xx 💜💜
(2/2) If you're interested in the topic, you should check the 2 versions of 'today I lost you'. Gary wrote it in 1995 and changed the lyrics in 2005 (almost nobody knows). I'll send you an useful link as I've the time to find it out.
@Ishtar1929 Thanks a lot. Being honest, yes it has been quite an hard work because you need 2 find the stuff, then you have 2 download it & cut it.. then you have 2 write subtitles 2 help people unable t2understand spoken english & 2 cut off every unuseful inch because you have 2 stay in 15 min. FInally you have to upload it and write the descpription. BTW I do love the guys & I do it just for this reason. I'm very grateful you appreciated & I'll manage to answer your mp tomorrow! x
Hi, here on YT...I don't rememer what show it was... but if it's still on here, you just have to try with 'back for good live' or something like that... sorry for not being more helpful
@scp4ever91 Hi thank you very much for your compliments and for taking the time to watch my vids and to leave your comment! Yeah, that's an interesting song .. the official version says he's speaking about Howard and his (ex)girlfriend and about the fact How shared his troubles with him. We can think it's true or not...
@lisaden77 Thank you very much! And thanks twice for taking the time to leave your comment on here! You were not the only one wondering about those lyrics ... some points in particular ... XD!
@brian2791 Thanks for leaving your comment, yes I agree... in the first part he was really angry. In particular when he sang "washed-up" after the line of the lipstick mark..it means it was personal for him..very personal. And he didn't sing "washed off", he sang "washed up", the meaning is slightly different.. and worse. Then things changed..
@lunakutres I'm so grateful you took the time 2 leave a comment here..yeah BFG is special, it's a mix of true lines & fake 1s but still you see the truth behind;the heartbreaking part 4 me has always been "I figured out this story, it wasn't good, but in a corner of my mind I celebrated glory, but it was not to be".Since I was a child, before I got it, I always felt it was "weird" & very sad. Why was he obliged 2 celebrate glory just in a corner of his mind,why was it wrong,why was it not to be?
About the question you asked on my channel wall, I'm afraid I don't have the vid. I see and cut thousands vids, so I'd need 4 netbooks & 10 hard disks to keep all the stuff. Once I've uploaded my vids, I delete all the vids tied in with them. That interview you mentioned was filmed in sweden if I'm not wrong & it was on YT, but I think it's been removed due 2 copyright iusses (not sure though).
@innerchild2002 Hi, I'm well, hope you're fine too! Thanks a lot for taking the time to watch it..let me know if you come into troubles with the others! Abs agree... it doesn't matter if they're gonna be honest or not..if they sold us lies (well, I never believed XD) ..I don't judge and I don't care.. I think each man in this world just wants to be loved for being who he truly is and...they have to know they are loved just for being themselves xx
Amen.
Sorry as far as I know the interview is not on yt anymore. It was recorded in 2010 in sweden or denmark :)
@musicisrockingmylyf Thanks to you for watching!
@siyaya15 2 lovely guys indeed x
0:6 where's that from
Where did you got 2:03 ?
I love your vids, actually i am addicted to them :) Just wondering... Do you know what's the story behind the ring? I can't stop thinking about it.
+claudusiaa101 hello, thank you very much. I hope next year I'll be able to make new ones, with the reunion and everything...I can't wait for new material! Now, unfortunately I don't know anything more about it to be honest (I know that in TT especially Rob and Mark they used to go shopping and ring and clothes were some of their targets, but that's just a general consideration). I found the 'time line' very interesting though.. I mean BFG is openly dedicated to a person Gary was dating / he was in love with back then and fixes the moment when things started to go downhill, which is around 1994 ('Today I've lost you' is the sequel of BFG and it was written in 1995); now Gary said he took inspiration from the ring when he wrote BFG, so this ring might have some connection with that person he was dating / he was in love with.. maybe it was a present; the question that arises, then, is: if things were going downhill with this person when he wrote BFG (1994), definitely ended badly as stated in Today I've lost you (1995) and given that and in 1995 he found a new person (Dawn), then WHY THE HELL was he still wearing that ring in 1996? Wasn't this highly disrespectful to his new girlfriend and future wife?! I think every woman would be furious if their partner wore a ring reminding him of his ex. I think Gary wore it to send out a message, so that (only) the person who shares with him the story of this ring would be able to recognize it and infer that he still cared and didn't throw the ring into the toilet. If you think about it, in 2009, when Rob and Gary started to make up, Rob went to a gig whoich was recorded on TV wearing as a bracelet an old necklace that he and Gary had, identical, in the old days (I think one time Howard wore it too, but I don't know if all of them had one or if Gary gave it to Howard, they all exchanged clothes and stuff) and both continued to wear in 1996. I've never ever seen Robbie with that necklace again, until 2009. The same kind of interesting timeline is with Today I've lost you: he realized a version of the song in 1995 (an angry breakup song that was never realized, he just sang it live once or twice) and then, then years later, when he released the song, he changed the lyrics. This might have some sense, if he changed them from 'I'm angry' to 'less angry, like oh well, it's childhood memories, my first important breakup', but instead, he changed them into 'I'm still here if you are too', which doesn't make any sense because he was supposed to be super-happily married when the wrote the song back in 2005. Twice if you think that he underlined on the CD cover that the song is the sequel of BFG. Why should he even care of a girlfriend he lost in 1994-1995, when he was happily married since 1999-2000? And why does he get so emotional talking about this song in 2010?! It's been 15 years...it doesn't make any sense. Unless, of course, you change your perspective.. and that's what I tried to do.
+lizbennetgenova Thank you for such a quick answer! I appreciate your taking the time to write it. And thanks for the new hints, it makes much more sense to me now. I also can't wait for new material and the new vids of yours :)
claudusiaa101
thanks sorry for the grammar mistakes but I'm writing in a rush from my office where I'm supposed to be working. 'See' you 'around' then
Hi thanks again for watching my vids! Personally, I think it's a fake line. When the song came out, I was young & teen agers didn't know anything about gay things in the 90's.But I felt this song had something "wrong".It was just a feeling, you know, I could't focus on it. I understood years later, when 'No regrets' was out, that it was because BFG is a mix of fake commercial lines & true concerns. GB started 2 date his wife after Rob left the band (or at least that's what was said).
At the beggining when Gary talks about back for good? where this from? Do you have a link for that interview?
Actually, Gary let Mark try to sing it, but it didn't work well so they decided Gary was going to sing it. It has happened a lot of times that Mark sang Gary's own songs, in particular when Gary didn't want to sing some songs he felt were too personal. But not in this case.. Gary wrote it and sang it as well.
Hi lizbennet, I was wondering where did you get that quote from Nigel M. Smith about backstory of 'Back for good'? I've been searching on youtube and google, but couldn't find anything!
I really appreciate your effort in making these videos, you did a wonderfull job! :)
Now, it was a 2010 interview, published some time later.. Nigel appeared to be angry with TT and gave this interview ... you can find some extracts here for example, both in english and italian, but it's not the whole thing, some parts were cut: takethatultimateforum (dot) forumfree (dot) it (slash) ?t=55254801, I think the interview was called "nigel martin smith looks back in anger at take that"; then, as for what I understood, of course we never had anything 'official' about it, Gary managed to make him calm and he said better things about 'his boys'. Same yrs later, when Nigel published that comment after Rob marriage, when he said it's a pity when gay men hide and marry and that more than 1 TT member is gay, then he cancelled the comment some time later, apparently - again, a guess - after Gary had a said in it.
lizbennetgenova Thank you, I've found it:) But I don't trust that Nigel guy, he might have said all those things simply out of spite.
lizbennetgenova Can't open the 'creamcake' link:(
@musicisrockingmylyf I'm sorry you can't watch it.. I swear I've included all the meaningful parts in here... then you find some generic things, some of the usual lies, some compliments by dj and people...nothing more than this
Are you a hater Robbie and Gary friendship or no? I'm so confused with your videos.
Grateful
+Amanda Marques obviously no, I've been a fan since 1993 ... you're the first person ever asking me that xd.
they hiding their GAY! but all their songs are for another one!. They cant deny it!