UPDATE: KingsIsle just responded on Twitter and is giving everyone affected by this 10 free Grim Ferryman Packs as an apology: twitter.com/Wizard101/status/1583557486740901889
10 packs is nothing tbh... This is literally them going "Here's some free stuff, plz dont sue us." Yeah this 5-10 dollars worth of stuff is not gonna make up for the thousands you raked in.
It's just kind of insulting that they lied at first, and then when they corrected their mistake, they made it seem like it was the players mistake. Even though refunding all crowns used would be a tall order, at least an apology and some sort of compensation should be in order for people who got the pack before the change.
A direct refund of any crowns spent on the cerberus pack is in order. This pack was legitimately a scam, and even today when the two packs WERE removed, you STILL get grim stuff in the cerberus pack. Complete scam. Also from a military lawyer, this is 100% fraud, so you were correct in that assumption
i think you're right, players should be refunded, crowns aren't cheap, i don't believe KI did it intentionally but doesn't matter, Wiz and KI have been shady lately though, lost all m Arena Tickets that i was saving to get a mount until one day noticed they were all gone. taken without any warnings because they changed the tickets up( well no warnings i'm aware of anyways) so there be some shady shenanigans going on with Wiz
Right, I don't think the level 150 ferryman gear not being in the pack was on purpose originally. I think someone made a mistake, but you don't just screw people over and then hide it, even if it was an accident. Everything since has been in really bad taste. They need to apologize, own up, and make it right.
@@gen-zisgoofy8304 Since this is a game targeting ages 9 and up, that can be quite spendy. A 13 year old has yet to enter the work force, maybe the rents give an allowance, or the kid has some kind of hustle. On the other end, senior citizens have exited the work force. Either way, gaming is a hobby so, whatever is spent is disposable income. Some people have a lot, some not so much. But, most every one has a limit on what they are willing to spend on Wiz.
@@rachaelkennedy3071 Targets 9 and up, but every person I meet on the game is a whole adult. Literally, the youngest I've seen on this game was 18, literally 18. That point would have been valid 8 years ago
@@gen-zisgoofy8304 You really do not get the point at all, the issue here is that they put two packs together so not only we already have a horrible drop rate to begin with now its even worse, they did this knowing they were going to add the grim pack alone, I wasted 150k crowns hoping to get the ferry mount and some other grim pack items on the ceberus pack cause I though they were not going to put the pack out, why mixed two packs together when you can just drop the pack alone like the did the day after, its a greedy crappy move and a slap in the face to all of us that already pay for membership on this game, if you do not see the problem here, then you become the reason why this company does that sht.
KI has been wandering from one blunder to another. I don't expect perfection, but they have dropped balls like crazy. Sounds as though a serious house cleaning needs to be done in the company.
Wiz’s idea of being transparent with the fans wait for the hype to die for the new Cerberus pack and then tell everyone “you know that gear you actually wanted wellllll it’s not in here” and then the bigger slap is to then put out the other pack as if nothing happend.
THIS. It’s honestly unacceptable, people should not be giving this out of control, scam of a company any more of their time and money. It’s not even a fun game.
If Wiz was available in a country like China, they would be forced to show the pack drop rates because of their countries laws, I would love to that or more transparency about the rates of items.
This is something I have wanted for so long in Wiz! I have seen it implemented in other games and can't possibly imagine its THAT hard to implement. Having the info in-game would be great, but if they don't want to go through the hassle of coding a new UI and all that, they literally could just put the drop rates on their website. They already have the capability to click a button in-game and link us to their website, so if nothing else, just put a button in the "inspect" menu on the packs that takes us to the drop rates page. It really shouldn't be that hard.
I've always thought the packs are crazy at times. Many games you pull for gear as example..wizard 101 packs, have everything in them. I don't want planting seeds! Seems more Gacha type lately.
Kingsisle needs to stop hiring "friends" and start acquiring people who are actually equipped to handle these type of situations. Working at Kingsisle shouldn't be used as playtime it should be a tool to further someone's career.
I think kingsisle has been lacking for a LONG time now. Like, there have been bugs I’ve reported for literally 2 years (or more) that have yet to be fixed! Spell animations have also wildly decreased in quality. It’s just kinda sad ya know? Like look at how the scion spells were handled compared to the level 48 spells. Or heck, even most of the level 100 spells were better than most of the scion spells. Like I’ve been playing this game on and off since before dragonspyre released and it has sucked to watch a company I adored make bad choice after bad choice
This feels illegal. Even if players questioned the drop rate of the ferryman gear KI could have said it was near 0. But then openly disclosing that it was never possible…. This company is a joke. They have records of who spent crowns on what, and when they did it. They should go back and at least match the Cerberus packs bought and supply an equal amount of grim ferryman packs.
this breaches the fair trading act. so it really is illegal. They are hoping no one sues. Because it is a very viable source to sue. Through the omission of information, they breached the FTA...so yeah, its very illegal and they're risking losing LOTS of money.
I heard about this & if I was online during this time I would have wasted a load of crowns trying to get the gear as well. Luckily I wasn’t but for everybody that did it’s so messed up because they advertised something that wasn’t true. People should demand a refund
Let's not forget they clogged all the old packs with useless housing items so every pack is filled with 4+ housing items. 8k of nightmare pack for fun and I didn't even get a full set of gear from it, not even including the Pegasus mounts. But a whole ton of housing items, just can't imagine a first time spender being excited to open packs and getting only housing items and npcs to fill their dorm room.
KI should refund all level 150s with same amount spent or replace with grim packs.....otherwise we should boycott buying packs for the rest of the year!
Why would you even care anyways, Merciless Gear is thousands of times better anyways. The fact that ya'll wanted to spend money on a game when you know it's a fuck up company blows MY mind.
@@gen-zisgoofy8304 I guarantee you not every 150 wizard bought the pack for the gear stats, people like me just wanted them for the aesthetic. The fact is, they said that you could get the gear through the pack, WITHOUT mentioning it will be only available for wizards 140 and under. That's dumb asf
@@dxnielldn I can also guarantee you that the stitch looks horrid anyways, the skull head was probably the only thing good in it. People should have more self control wasting hundreds for a COSMETIC. So this should hopefully teach them that lesson to spend better.
@@gen-zisgoofy8304 while you think it looks trash, others will not.. and you're really blaming the community for trying to get something they want, which was falsely advertised the whole time? The wiz gambling system is difficult on it's own, requiring you to spend to get the items you want
Oh yeah,they've done similar bs on the EU servers with the bundles So on the main wizard101 page they claimed that every bundle included a monthly membership so you would expect to get membership when buying a bundle but nope.They changed that without changing the text on their page,no apologies whatsoever,no membership(only the items)told me to contact the support teamto address the issue(of the remaining text on the page which stated that there was a monthly membership included in the bundles) so they would change the text and I seriously don't know if they did because I didn't spend much time on the main page
i wasted 25k crowns trying to get the cerberus mounts but i kept getting spammed with the ferry men mounts. why have the ferry men stuff in the cerberus pack if your gonna release the pack itself later. makes no sense and kinda hurts i wasted that much
I knew this was a scam because after opening $30 worth of Cerberus packs just for one piece of Ferryman gear and didn’t get a single one I went full detective. Started inspecting people with the ferryman gear just to see if I was opening the right pack because I was really confused. After that I decided to start searching TH-cam pack opening and EVERY VIDEO AND I MEAN EVERY VIDEO IVE WATCHED didn’t get a single piece ferryman gear either. They better refund me at least 1k crowns or something.
.Not to long ago, I was watching an "outsider" review W101 because so many of his subscribers love it and wanted his opinion. Basically, he liked the game --- except for the fizzles, which he found terribly unfair --- and hated the crown shop. Given gardening and other sources, I find the actual crown shop essential optional, but what you brought our attention is more than frustrating, even more than enraging. You are quite right this was very badly handle ---- just like the hack, which, given what was going on in my life at the time ---- I wouldn't have known about it if I hadn't caught your video about it. (More and more, I'm beginning to understand the need to pay for a VPN.) Please, keep vigilant for us. You're doing a good job! Looking forward to the expansion of your content, too!
Thank you! I just hope that by bringing more attention to it, Wizard101 actually changes for the better. I love this game and it makes me sad and frustrated when stuff like this keeps happening 😢
Honestly knowing KI’s incompetence I would assume this is a mistake, however, they definitely need to fix it by refunding or giving free Ferryman’s packs to people who were lvl 150 and bought the Cerberus ones
Thing is they don’t know which ones wanted the ferryman gear, or not. I also think that the people who assumed that the only way to get the ferryman gear was through Cerberus pack, and later find out that the pack was released again should get a reimbursement. Because if I would’ve know that they would’ve released the ferryman pack with the gear stick I wanted I wouldn’t have bought any of the Cerberus packs.
@@GabrielVasquez yea it’s a tough thing to fix and a big fuck up. Maybe they could make an option for people to choose to remove all the gear they got and refund those people so they can spend on whatever pack they wanted. Idk honestly though that’s a lot of work if it is even possible.
@@GabrielVasquez Fr though, I opened 20k+ crowns worth of packs to get the gear that didn't exist for 150 wizards.. At least mention that information before the release
I think the Grim ferryman pack is a scam as well. I've been saving my money for Halloween packs. Spent about 80k(ish) crowns on the grim ferryman pack and haven't gotten a single perm mount or the fire wizard scythe(which I wanted).
The entire fucking game is nothing but a ginormous scam. They lowered the drop rates for literally everything. I spent 10k crowns on darkmoor chest and got nothing but 6 of the same athames and 5 of the same tier 3 boots
I spent about 14k on the packs all in hopes that I could try to get one of the mounts but I still haven’t gotten one…compare that to other packs I got mounts from and I didn’t spend nearly as many crowns on them compared to this one it’s definitely a scam
Fr lmfao. I wish someone with money would go after Ki and sue their asses all the way to bankruptcy. This game needs to either get shut down or have every single last person working for Ki fired and replaced by REAL GAME DEVS. Not wannabes
Spent a lot more than I thought I would ever spend to get ferryman stuff. No apology / owning up to their mistake is gonna make me not spend anything on this game ever again. I spent enough to make a claim easily, sweeping this stuff under the rug the way they did is a slap to the face. How are they gonna just go through with this scam after gaining so much attention from their hacker
I don't even care if they don't compensate me at all, DO NOT gas light the players and please OWN UP TO YOUR MISTAKES KINGSISLE OR BE THE SCAM ARTIST YOU CURRENTLY ARE
I think it was also wrong for the people who only opened the Cerberus pack to get the ferryman gear as a stitch…because now there’s the original pack that would’ve been so much easier to get the gear in…instead of spending tens of thousands of crowns on gear that they didn’t want or need.
I wasted 30 bucks on that pack because I thought the grim ferryman pack wasn't coming back. I logged on today and saw the grim ferryman pack, and man was I pissed. I did get a bunch of ferryman gear though, and a perm mount. My bank is filled with garbo cerberus stuff though.
I wonder if this is why my game glitched the other day. I was buying the Cerberus pack and kept getting garbage that my wizard couldn't use. Suddenly my game glitched and kicked me out, I logged back in and suddenly all the stuff I was getting from it was stuff my wizard could use. Spent 17k crowns on it too...
Can we just acknowledge for a second that ever since the crowns shop released, the quality of the game has been steadily declining? They’ve bought into the micro transaction business, and it’s clear that’s what they’ve shifted focus to. They’re scummy as heck if they don’t offer some kind of compensation.
i did get some of the ferrymen gear, but it has an extremely low drop rate. everything had a very low drop rate. like i spent 160k trying to get any of the perm mounts, and never got any of them.
Well... They keep doing this because people end up spending hundreds of dollars on these packs every single time. I mean, look at all the pack opening videos for every new released pack. Do they care? Nah, it's pretty obvious from all the times they try to sell you things for their birthday celebrations. Somethings you cant get unless your account is 10+ years old, HRM... I WONDER... If they know their playerbase isn't a bunch of kids but a bunch of older people with gambling addictions? Also why would KI apologize..? They've already made it perfectly clear they dont care about the game being fun, nor do they care about a player's time spent dedicated to their virtual gatcha cashgrab. They're sitting on millions of dollars off people looking for scraps of fun through loot-boxes, gambling addictions, and keeping the game JUST fun enough to keep players sticking around spending hundreds of dollars a month on this game. This "FREE TO PLAY" game by the way.
its appauling though that they did this, which is quite literally ILLEGAL. Because of the Fair Trading Act, they omitted the information (whether on purpose or accident it doesnt matter under the FTA) of who can get what, so its a very risky move on their part because they can lose SO much money.
@@lucaswilson4626 Turns out Gatcha games are better, since their loot boxes have a sort of "Pity system" built into them. Basically, if you bought a certain amount of boxes (say 10 or so), the pity system kicks in and you're garunteed a legendary item of some sorts, rare, whatever. Wizard101 doesn't have this... And Wizard101 wont add it because hey, new pack? There's gonna be LOADS of pack opening videos because there's no other content to talk about. Congrats, low effort, and it makes them THOUSANDS. I did the math on their Novus bundles by the way... The more expensive ones save you LESS money than the cheaper one percentage wise. This is NOT a child safe game, despite how KI tries to preach it is. They ban players for saying things like "Sheet" and "Carp" because they try to make it "Child friendly". When in reality, Children are so vulnerable to buying all their junk. This game has so many pay to win systems it's baffling the legal system hasn't come in and did anything about it, because so far their store is 100% Child Gambling, which is VERY ILLEGAL. And yes, this pack being a straight up scam is just another nail in this game's coffin of illegal gambling.
Well Zaepha at least you did not wasted 150k crowns trying to get the gear and the mounts from this pack hoping to get the ferry, then get slapped in the face after the drop the pack alone, I am still pissed at KI for doing this bs move.
they know the people opening the new pack will be max. thats a majority of people who do larger pack openings. idk, its upsetting, but its not surprising.
KI has historically always been incompetent so I wouldn’t be surprised if they messed up rather then lied. However I still do think people should get refunded packs or crowns
They are literally do this almost every time they make a pack they never learned there stupid mistakes and never cares until they get hate then say oh here the pack back and the for your money is basically what they did.
Nah,, so,,, you're telling me they just dropped that little "tee hee, kicking my feet" disclaimer RECENTLY about the gear only being lvl 140, and just actively let a whole bunch of people who were lvl 150 buy the pack WITHOUT KNOWING when it was originally dropped?? 💀 And they didn't even like,,,- apologize? Because ultimately, it's a mistake on THEIR end bc they forgot to mention it and correct it. They didn't even give some sort of like, compensation or anything, that is so- just bye 😑💀 please, the door 🚪🚶🏾♀️
Honestly. I am frustrated as well maybe at a lil bit of a different thing but either way i spent 45k crowns of course the ferry gear is cool i would of wanted it. But no i dont even get a perm cerb mount. Sum has to be done. We as a whole the player base arent being loud enough ( i guess) for KI or the higher ups to notice. Once their wallets are effected then they care but none the less, sumthing has to change wit this bcuz this isnt the firsy time. They literally put out packs for mounts then the next day they add that mount to a lil bundle so its like u didnt even need to spend money on random drops wen u can jus buy that mount wit a few other stuff for bout 11-26k crowns. Their whole system is jus bout tricking us so they can benefit i already spent 400 dollars this month on crowns on top of that the first 50k crown i had at the beginning of the month… honestly we jus need to spam them wit emails letting them KNOW THAT UR A PAYING CUSTOMER AND ARENT HAPPY WIT THE WAY THESE PACKS OR SALES ARE GOING.
I jus find it crazy how u can literally spent over 100k crowns on a pack and still not get say what most people want is the perm mounts. They say the drop rate is random but idk i seen ppl get perm mounts wit 4 packs in while it took me like 40k plus crowns later and still nun. Like come on at least try and act like u care bout the PAYING CUSTOMERS.
its trash, they made an awesome mount. only took 190k crowns to get one cerberus mount perm, no feryman gear, got 3 mounts feryman, one cerb, i hope we get some sort of refund. this is outrageous. i want atleast half of my $200 back
You could threaten legal action over this lol. It breaches the Fair Trading Act, they omitted information from you. You could so earn your cash back and even more with a lawsuit. But its prbly not worth the hassle.
I see nothing has changed from this company since I left the game 4 years ago. KI is frustrating since I started playing in 2011. An idiotic joke of a company.
both videos on their own are good but an issue you can create when you make an impression video and then later, a negative reaction video is you can trick your audience into buying the product without a solid recommendation. if for example someone saw only the thumbnail of your first video and bought the pack based off their favorite youtuber supposed positive impression then later saw a completely negative reaction to it from the same voice after they had spent their money, they could believe you were trying to deceive them. every major cellphone company for instance does this to maximize their profits at the expense of their consumer. make as many videos as you can reap rewards from, that's your right and charge as a youtuber but this is visually and functionally similar to a scam tons of companies who would be expected to care less about this impact on their customers perform
I don't think that's a fair comparison when many of us who made pack opening videos were also deceived by KingsIsle. I'm mad because I feel like I was ripped off - especially since my original video now acts as proof that the Grim Ferryman gear was not dropping for max levels. I reviewed the pack with the knowledge I had at the time (which for the record was not very positive if you watch it) and now we have new information that I and others opening it were actually ripped off, hence the update. I've since updated my original video too with the new information so anyone who watches it is aware. The only scammer here is KingsIsle...
@@Zaepha I liked both videos. I saw both videos. I don't feel deceived by you. I don't think you're running a scam. I was saying that there are undoubtedly a number of your viewers who did not watch both or either. The impression from information that you did put out on your channel that they might get from your thumbnails for example is similar to the effect seen on almost any tech channel on TH-cam. I said the effect of your two videos was visually and functionally similar to this widespread phenomenon; and it is. Hypothetical: If I were to glance at TH-cam and see that my favorite TH-camr made an "opening $20 of packs" video via a thumbnail containing potential prizes, without watching the video I could have developed a positive impression of the packs. Now, if I spend my money on packs and am disappointed with my results, then see the same TH-camr make an overtly negative final review, I could feel deceived and lied to for the benefit of posting two videos. I do not believe you sought this effect or even considered the possibility, I'm just trying to explain how this situation has been and continues to be viewed by many viewers everyday on this platform. I love your videos and wish you weren't quitting full time wiz but look forward to the future of your channel.
@@JulesBrunoJjBaggy their fault for not watching the entire video and having false assumptions, not a fair point to make, no one should go and spent money just seeing a thumbnail like what lol I don't think anyone is actually doing that
@@Amadite It's content she created and posted. What if someone had enough time to see the thumbnail but not watch the whole video? I'm not even saying she did anything bad just that what she did could be seen as something similar to a bad thing others do. I didn't say anyone did spend money based off that; I prefaced a scenario like that as "Hypothetical:", as in you don't have to and are not expected nor assumed to believe that it did happen.
UPDATE: KingsIsle just responded on Twitter and is giving everyone affected by this 10 free Grim Ferryman Packs as an apology: twitter.com/Wizard101/status/1583557486740901889
10 packs is nothing tbh... This is literally them going "Here's some free stuff, plz dont sue us."
Yeah this 5-10 dollars worth of stuff is not gonna make up for the thousands you raked in.
It's just kind of insulting that they lied at first, and then when they corrected their mistake, they made it seem like it was the players mistake. Even though refunding all crowns used would be a tall order, at least an apology and some sort of compensation should be in order for people who got the pack before the change.
"False advertising". Always has been. That encapsulates the entirety of wizard101's marketting
What do you think of this issue? What should KingsIsle do to address this? I'm honestly flabbergasted that they thought this was acceptable...
A direct refund of any crowns spent on the cerberus pack is in order. This pack was legitimately a scam, and even today when the two packs WERE removed, you STILL get grim stuff in the cerberus pack. Complete scam. Also from a military lawyer, this is 100% fraud, so you were correct in that assumption
@@lawrencewise7687 I totally agree, people need to be refunded and an apology issued immediately!
I spent 100$ dollars on this pack never got it I’m gonna ask for a refund
@@preppy_nemisis2952 You should absolutely get one! That's awful!
Im absolutely peeved about this.
i think you're right, players should be refunded, crowns aren't cheap, i don't believe KI did it intentionally but doesn't matter, Wiz and KI have been shady lately though, lost all m Arena Tickets that i was saving to get a mount until one day noticed they were all gone. taken without any warnings because they changed the tickets up( well no warnings i'm aware of anyways) so there be some shady shenanigans going on with Wiz
Right, I don't think the level 150 ferryman gear not being in the pack was on purpose originally. I think someone made a mistake, but you don't just screw people over and then hide it, even if it was an accident. Everything since has been in really bad taste. They need to apologize, own up, and make it right.
Bro it's 25 dollars for 13,750 Crowns. That is cheap as hell, idk where you working at
@@gen-zisgoofy8304 Since this is a game targeting ages 9 and up, that can be quite spendy. A 13 year old has yet to enter the work force, maybe the rents give an allowance, or the kid has some kind of hustle. On the other end, senior citizens have exited the work force. Either way, gaming is a hobby so, whatever is spent is disposable income. Some people have a lot, some not so much. But, most every one has a limit on what they are willing to spend on Wiz.
@@rachaelkennedy3071 Targets 9 and up, but every person I meet on the game is a whole adult. Literally, the youngest I've seen on this game was 18, literally 18. That point would have been valid 8 years ago
@@gen-zisgoofy8304 You really do not get the point at all, the issue here is that they put two packs together so not only we already have a horrible drop rate to begin with now its even worse, they did this knowing they were going to add the grim pack alone, I wasted 150k crowns hoping to get the ferry mount and some other grim pack items on the ceberus pack cause I though they were not going to put the pack out, why mixed two packs together when you can just drop the pack alone like the did the day after, its a greedy crappy move and a slap in the face to all of us that already pay for membership on this game, if you do not see the problem here, then you become the reason why this company does that sht.
I was pretty confused because on my level 140 I was getting both gear sets and when I opened on my 150 I only got cerberus, atleast I know why now
KI has been wandering from one blunder to another. I don't expect perfection, but they have dropped balls like crazy. Sounds as though a serious house cleaning needs to be done in the company.
Ratbeard, cam, and Artie HAVE TO GO.
Wiz’s idea of being transparent with the fans wait for the hype to die for the new Cerberus pack and then tell everyone “you know that gear you actually wanted wellllll it’s not in here” and then the bigger slap is to then put out the other pack as if nothing happend.
I just dont understand how KI spits in its players faces every opportunity they get and the community is still shocked everytime they do it
THIS. It’s honestly unacceptable, people should not be giving this out of control, scam of a company any more of their time and money. It’s not even a fun game.
@@SH_187 Damn, then I wonder why you took the time to watch enough of it to be put in your recommended.
If Wiz was available in a country like China, they would be forced to show the pack drop rates because of their countries laws, I would love to that or more transparency about the rates of items.
This!
This is something I have wanted for so long in Wiz! I have seen it implemented in other games and can't possibly imagine its THAT hard to implement. Having the info in-game would be great, but if they don't want to go through the hassle of coding a new UI and all that, they literally could just put the drop rates on their website. They already have the capability to click a button in-game and link us to their website, so if nothing else, just put a button in the "inspect" menu on the packs that takes us to the drop rates page. It really shouldn't be that hard.
At the end of the day KI can get away with this because people will keep buying. Their fan base enables them to be this way
I've always thought the packs are crazy at times. Many games you pull for gear as example..wizard 101 packs, have everything in them. I don't want planting seeds! Seems more Gacha type lately.
Yeah there's way too much junk in packs even when they aren't rigged...
Kingsisle needs to stop hiring "friends" and start acquiring people who are actually equipped to handle these type of situations. Working at Kingsisle shouldn't be used as playtime it should be a tool to further someone's career.
I think kingsisle has been lacking for a LONG time now. Like, there have been bugs I’ve reported for literally 2 years (or more) that have yet to be fixed! Spell animations have also wildly decreased in quality. It’s just kinda sad ya know? Like look at how the scion spells were handled compared to the level 48 spells. Or heck, even most of the level 100 spells were better than most of the scion spells. Like I’ve been playing this game on and off since before dragonspyre released and it has sucked to watch a company I adored make bad choice after bad choice
This feels illegal. Even if players questioned the drop rate of the ferryman gear KI could have said it was near 0.
But then openly disclosing that it was never possible…. This company is a joke. They have records of who spent crowns on what, and when they did it. They should go back and at least match the Cerberus packs bought and supply an equal amount of grim ferryman packs.
this breaches the fair trading act. so it really is illegal. They are hoping no one sues. Because it is a very viable source to sue. Through the omission of information, they breached the FTA...so yeah, its very illegal and they're risking losing LOTS of money.
We better get our crowns back
yep, im out a good 200 bucks
They should definitely refund something or give free packs. KI has always been super predator with promoting gambling.
I heard about this & if I was online during this time I would have wasted a load of crowns trying to get the gear as well. Luckily I wasn’t but for everybody that did it’s so messed up because they advertised something that wasn’t true. People should demand a refund
This company has really gone down the gutter. Such a shame
Let's not forget they clogged all the old packs with useless housing items so every pack is filled with 4+ housing items. 8k of nightmare pack for fun and I didn't even get a full set of gear from it, not even including the Pegasus mounts. But a whole ton of housing items, just can't imagine a first time spender being excited to open packs and getting only housing items and npcs to fill their dorm room.
Dang first they get hacked and now they doing this , ridiculous
i dont think theres any reason they should not refund people who bought it before
KI should refund all level 150s with same amount spent or replace with grim packs.....otherwise we should boycott buying packs for the rest of the year!
I spent close to 30k crowns and didnt get any of the ferry man gear. They need to refund its bs
It blows my mind that they messed up on 150 level so many wizards still playing are max level
Why would you even care anyways, Merciless Gear is thousands of times better anyways. The fact that ya'll wanted to spend money on a game when you know it's a fuck up company blows MY mind.
@@gen-zisgoofy8304 I guarantee you not every 150 wizard bought the pack for the gear stats, people like me just wanted them for the aesthetic. The fact is, they said that you could get the gear through the pack, WITHOUT mentioning it will be only available for wizards 140 and under. That's dumb asf
@@dxnielldn I can also guarantee you that the stitch looks horrid anyways, the skull head was probably the only thing good in it. People should have more self control wasting hundreds for a COSMETIC. So this should hopefully teach them that lesson to spend better.
@@gen-zisgoofy8304 while you think it looks trash, others will not.. and you're really blaming the community for trying to get something they want, which was falsely advertised the whole time? The wiz gambling system is difficult on it's own, requiring you to spend to get the items you want
Oh yeah,they've done similar bs on the EU servers with the bundles
So on the main wizard101 page they claimed that every bundle included a monthly membership so you would expect to get membership when buying a bundle but nope.They changed that without changing the text on their page,no apologies whatsoever,no membership(only the items)told me to contact the support teamto address the issue(of the remaining text on the page which stated that there was a monthly membership included in the bundles) so they would change the text and I seriously don't know if they did because I didn't spend much time on the main page
they should at least give crowns to the people who got scammed
i spwet 190k atleast for one cerberus mount
i wasted 25k crowns trying to get the cerberus mounts but i kept getting spammed with the ferry men mounts. why have the ferry men stuff in the cerberus pack if your gonna release the pack itself later. makes no sense and kinda hurts i wasted that much
When money rules games drool and developers suck - Sun Tao Wiz 101 philosopher and lvl 150 fire wiz
why are u adding ur characters info after ur post like that matters LOL, ur a fucking dweeb
I knew this was a scam because after opening $30 worth of Cerberus packs just for one piece of Ferryman gear and didn’t get a single one I went full detective. Started inspecting people with the ferryman gear just to see if I was opening the right pack because I was really confused. After that I decided to start searching TH-cam pack opening and EVERY VIDEO AND I MEAN EVERY VIDEO IVE WATCHED didn’t get a single piece ferryman gear either. They better refund me at least 1k crowns or something.
.Not to long ago, I was watching an "outsider" review W101 because so many of his subscribers love it and wanted his opinion. Basically, he liked the game --- except for the fizzles, which he found terribly unfair --- and hated the crown shop. Given gardening and other sources, I find the actual crown shop essential optional, but what you brought our attention is more than frustrating, even more than enraging. You are quite right this was very badly handle ---- just like the hack, which, given what was going on in my life at the time ---- I wouldn't have known about it if I hadn't caught your video about it. (More and more, I'm beginning to understand the need to pay for a VPN.) Please, keep vigilant for us. You're doing a good job! Looking forward to the expansion of your content, too!
Thank you! I just hope that by bringing more attention to it, Wizard101 actually changes for the better. I love this game and it makes me sad and frustrated when stuff like this keeps happening 😢
@@Zaepha 👍👍
Honestly knowing KI’s incompetence I would assume this is a mistake, however, they definitely need to fix it by refunding or giving free Ferryman’s packs to people who were lvl 150 and bought the Cerberus ones
Thing is they don’t know which ones wanted the ferryman gear, or not. I also think that the people who assumed that the only way to get the ferryman gear was through Cerberus pack, and later find out that the pack was released again should get a reimbursement. Because if I would’ve know that they would’ve released the ferryman pack with the gear stick I wanted I wouldn’t have bought any of the Cerberus packs.
@@GabrielVasquez yea it’s a tough thing to fix and a big fuck up. Maybe they could make an option for people to choose to remove all the gear they got and refund those people so they can spend on whatever pack they wanted. Idk honestly though that’s a lot of work if it is even possible.
@@GabrielVasquez Fr though, I opened 20k+ crowns worth of packs to get the gear that didn't exist for 150 wizards.. At least mention that information before the release
i just want a refund a this point.
what they should do is either refund like 50/ of the crowns spent or gift a certain amount of packs to meet the amount spent
I think the Grim ferryman pack is a scam as well. I've been saving my money for Halloween packs. Spent about 80k(ish) crowns on the grim ferryman pack and haven't gotten a single perm mount or the fire wizard scythe(which I wanted).
The entire fucking game is nothing but a ginormous scam. They lowered the drop rates for literally everything. I spent 10k crowns on darkmoor chest and got nothing but 6 of the same athames and 5 of the same tier 3 boots
I spent about 14k on the packs all in hopes that I could try to get one of the mounts but I still haven’t gotten one…compare that to other packs I got mounts from and I didn’t spend nearly as many crowns on them compared to this one it’s definitely a scam
Yes girl tell it like how it is!! 💯🔥
I mean this is coming from a game where you need to pay money to literally use the report function.
Fr lmfao. I wish someone with money would go after Ki and sue their asses all the way to bankruptcy. This game needs to either get shut down or have every single last person working for Ki fired and replaced by REAL GAME DEVS. Not wannabes
Spent a lot more than I thought I would ever spend to get ferryman stuff. No apology / owning up to their mistake is gonna make me not spend anything on this game ever again. I spent enough to make a claim easily, sweeping this stuff under the rug the way they did is a slap to the face. How are they gonna just go through with this scam after gaining so much attention from their hacker
I don't even care if they don't compensate me at all, DO NOT gas light the players and please OWN UP TO YOUR MISTAKES KINGSISLE OR BE THE SCAM ARTIST YOU CURRENTLY ARE
peer preassure w101 to compensate folk that god jebaited
I was going more for the Cereberus mount, but I totally agree.
I think it was also wrong for the people who only opened the Cerberus pack to get the ferryman gear as a stitch…because now there’s the original pack that would’ve been so much easier to get the gear in…instead of spending tens of thousands of crowns on gear that they didn’t want or need.
190k just for one cerberus
I wasted 30 bucks on that pack because I thought the grim ferryman pack wasn't coming back. I logged on today and saw the grim ferryman pack, and man was I pissed. I did get a bunch of ferryman gear though, and a perm mount. My bank is filled with garbo cerberus stuff though.
I wonder if this is why my game glitched the other day. I was buying the Cerberus pack and kept getting garbage that my wizard couldn't use. Suddenly my game glitched and kicked me out, I logged back in and suddenly all the stuff I was getting from it was stuff my wizard could use. Spent 17k crowns on it too...
It is fraud and predatory! Shame on them. This is why I don't play anymore
Goes back to the Apple mentality "you are holding it wrong" like the problem is the users, not that instructions were not there first.
Can we just acknowledge for a second that ever since the crowns shop released, the quality of the game has been steadily declining? They’ve bought into the micro transaction business, and it’s clear that’s what they’ve shifted focus to. They’re scummy as heck if they don’t offer some kind of compensation.
i did get some of the ferrymen gear, but it has an extremely low drop rate. everything had a very low drop rate. like i spent 160k trying to get any of the perm mounts, and never got any of them.
Well... They keep doing this because people end up spending hundreds of dollars on these packs every single time. I mean, look at all the pack opening videos for every new released pack.
Do they care? Nah, it's pretty obvious from all the times they try to sell you things for their birthday celebrations. Somethings you cant get unless your account is 10+ years old, HRM... I WONDER... If they know their playerbase isn't a bunch of kids but a bunch of older people with gambling addictions?
Also why would KI apologize..? They've already made it perfectly clear they dont care about the game being fun, nor do they care about a player's time spent dedicated to their virtual gatcha cashgrab. They're sitting on millions of dollars off people looking for scraps of fun through loot-boxes, gambling addictions, and keeping the game JUST fun enough to keep players sticking around spending hundreds of dollars a month on this game. This "FREE TO PLAY" game by the way.
its appauling though that they did this, which is quite literally ILLEGAL. Because of the Fair Trading Act, they omitted the information (whether on purpose or accident it doesnt matter under the FTA) of who can get what, so its a very risky move on their part because they can lose SO much money.
@@lucaswilson4626 Turns out Gatcha games are better, since their loot boxes have a sort of "Pity system" built into them. Basically, if you bought a certain amount of boxes (say 10 or so), the pity system kicks in and you're garunteed a legendary item of some sorts, rare, whatever.
Wizard101 doesn't have this... And Wizard101 wont add it because hey, new pack? There's gonna be LOADS of pack opening videos because there's no other content to talk about. Congrats, low effort, and it makes them THOUSANDS.
I did the math on their Novus bundles by the way... The more expensive ones save you LESS money than the cheaper one percentage wise.
This is NOT a child safe game, despite how KI tries to preach it is. They ban players for saying things like "Sheet" and "Carp" because they try to make it "Child friendly". When in reality, Children are so vulnerable to buying all their junk. This game has so many pay to win systems it's baffling the legal system hasn't come in and did anything about it, because so far their store is 100% Child Gambling, which is VERY ILLEGAL.
And yes, this pack being a straight up scam is just another nail in this game's coffin of illegal gambling.
PLEASE KEEP THIS UP
This takes the games hyper-monetization to new levels of disgusting.
Thank you for telling me ahead of time that this gear set that I want It's not Available and it's false advertisement Thank you
Why is this surprising of course it’s a scam years later they’re still using a gambling system in a kid’s game
this is just really disappointing i wish ki would be more transparent with things like this. I totally agree this was a blatant scam
Well Zaepha at least you did not wasted 150k crowns trying to get the gear and the mounts from this pack hoping to get the ferry, then get slapped in the face after the drop the pack alone, I am still pissed at KI for doing this bs move.
I remember dropping 25k and never got my mount.. KI is dirty.
they know the people opening the new pack will be max. thats a majority of people who do larger pack openings. idk, its upsetting, but its not surprising.
KI has historically always been incompetent so I wouldn’t be surprised if they messed up rather then lied. However I still do think people should get refunded packs or crowns
They are literally do this almost every time they make a pack they never learned there stupid mistakes and never cares until they get hate then say oh here the pack back and the for your money is basically what they did.
I spent 27k crowns on this pack and got no permanent mounts 🤧🤧
Then you need to spend 27k hours of your life trying to plan on how you're going to break away from this horrible addiction you have
@@gen-zisgoofy8304 he could so make that money back through a lawsuit lol.
Nah,, so,,, you're telling me they just dropped that little "tee hee, kicking my feet" disclaimer RECENTLY about the gear only being lvl 140, and just actively let a whole bunch of people who were lvl 150 buy the pack WITHOUT KNOWING when it was originally dropped?? 💀
And they didn't even like,,,- apologize? Because ultimately, it's a mistake on THEIR end bc they forgot to mention it and correct it.
They didn't even give some sort of like, compensation or anything, that is so- just bye 😑💀 please, the door 🚪🚶🏾♀️
Dang feel bad for the people who wanted ferryman gear, glad I didn’t spend any crowns
I spend $50, did got the gear but i wanted the mounts... and only got either the 1 day or 7 days.
Honestly. I am frustrated as well maybe at a lil bit of a different thing but either way i spent 45k crowns of course the ferry gear is cool i would of wanted it. But no i dont even get a perm cerb mount. Sum has to be done. We as a whole the player base arent being loud enough ( i guess) for KI or the higher ups to notice. Once their wallets are effected then they care but none the less, sumthing has to change wit this bcuz this isnt the firsy time. They literally put out packs for mounts then the next day they add that mount to a lil bundle so its like u didnt even need to spend money on random drops wen u can jus buy that mount wit a few other stuff for bout 11-26k crowns. Their whole system is jus bout tricking us so they can benefit i already spent 400 dollars this month on crowns on top of that the first 50k crown i had at the beginning of the month… honestly we jus need to spam them wit emails letting them KNOW THAT UR A PAYING CUSTOMER AND ARENT HAPPY WIT THE WAY THESE PACKS OR SALES ARE GOING.
I jus find it crazy how u can literally spent over 100k crowns on a pack and still not get say what most people want is the perm mounts. They say the drop rate is random but idk i seen ppl get perm mounts wit 4 packs in while it took me like 40k plus crowns later and still nun. Like come on at least try and act like u care bout the PAYING CUSTOMERS.
Lawsuit time!
😂 luv the thumbnail
The whole concept that they are trying to teach kids to gamble on these packs to get the items they want is kind of greedy on their part
I’ve gotten ferryman gear from it, just very very rare.
wow and why do we not see the giveaway code in the main site now?
its trash, they made an awesome mount. only took 190k crowns to get one cerberus mount perm, no feryman gear, got 3 mounts feryman, one cerb, i hope we get some sort of refund. this is outrageous. i want atleast half of my $200 back
I wasted 5k crown in that pack
Expose them!!!!
That is bogus. I would ask for a refund. When has any item been like that?
You could threaten legal action over this lol. It breaches the Fair Trading Act, they omitted information from you. You could so earn your cash back and even more with a lawsuit. But its prbly not worth the hassle.
Housing trash
Wow... spent 200 bucks for nothing💔 This game is trash
Never give them another dime, you should uninstall too. This game needs to die for what they’ve done over the last few years.
I see nothing has changed from this company since I left the game 4 years ago. KI is frustrating since I started playing in 2011. An idiotic joke of a company.
This game has to be a scam by now lol
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Ooof
Tbh I didint even know they were combined I wanted the Cerberus gear GOT NOTHING good I spent a lot of crowns on that too
both videos on their own are good but an issue you can create when you make an impression video and then later, a negative reaction video is you can trick your audience into buying the product without a solid recommendation. if for example someone saw only the thumbnail of your first video and bought the pack based off their favorite youtuber supposed positive impression then later saw a completely negative reaction to it from the same voice after they had spent their money, they could believe you were trying to deceive them. every major cellphone company for instance does this to maximize their profits at the expense of their consumer. make as many videos as you can reap rewards from, that's your right and charge as a youtuber but this is visually and functionally similar to a scam tons of companies who would be expected to care less about this impact on their customers perform
I don't think that's a fair comparison when many of us who made pack opening videos were also deceived by KingsIsle. I'm mad because I feel like I was ripped off - especially since my original video now acts as proof that the Grim Ferryman gear was not dropping for max levels. I reviewed the pack with the knowledge I had at the time (which for the record was not very positive if you watch it) and now we have new information that I and others opening it were actually ripped off, hence the update. I've since updated my original video too with the new information so anyone who watches it is aware. The only scammer here is KingsIsle...
@@Zaepha I liked both videos. I saw both videos. I don't feel deceived by you. I don't think you're running a scam. I was saying that there are undoubtedly a number of your viewers who did not watch both or either. The impression from information that you did put out on your channel that they might get from your thumbnails for example is similar to the effect seen on almost any tech channel on TH-cam. I said the effect of your two videos was visually and functionally similar to this widespread phenomenon; and it is.
Hypothetical: If I were to glance at TH-cam and see that my favorite TH-camr made an "opening $20 of packs" video via a thumbnail containing potential prizes, without watching the video I could have developed a positive impression of the packs. Now, if I spend my money on packs and am disappointed with my results, then see the same TH-camr make an overtly negative final review, I could feel deceived and lied to for the benefit of posting two videos.
I do not believe you sought this effect or even considered the possibility, I'm just trying to explain how this situation has been and continues to be viewed by many viewers everyday on this platform.
I love your videos and wish you weren't quitting full time wiz but look forward to the future of your channel.
@@JulesBrunoJjBaggy their fault for not watching the entire video and having false assumptions, not a fair point to make, no one should go and spent money just seeing a thumbnail like what lol I don't think anyone is actually doing that
@@Amadite It's content she created and posted. What if someone had enough time to see the thumbnail but not watch the whole video? I'm not even saying she did anything bad just that what she did could be seen as something similar to a bad thing others do. I didn't say anyone did spend money based off that; I prefaced a scenario like that as "Hypothetical:", as in you don't have to and are not expected nor assumed to believe that it did happen.
This proves nobody who works on the game plays it.
Took em awhile to figure it out
Bunch of wannabe old fucks, have u ever watched ki live? They all look 40-50 clueless dweebs
Thank you for telling me ahead of time that this gear set that I want It's not Available and it's false advertisement Thank you