Unkillable Thralls: Mind Control Revenant | Helminth Build Guide | Warframe | Two Star Players
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Worth noting that with the latest buff, his mesmer skin is even more powerful. Anytime a charge is consume, he get a 1 second invulnerability (which prevent the eximus from stripping the mesmer skin charges in a few seconds).
Threw in the Thrall Augment and "Combat Discipline-Arcane Avenger" synergy, since Mesmer Skin prevents HP from dropping below 1, and was enjoying the build a lot. Kinda surprised it still works in 2022 without issue.
I was ready to click away, but boom hooked and i was going crazy, this is insane
This was exactly what I wanted to build Revenant for, this is awesome.
Very interesting. I've really been enjoying your Helminth builds, mainly in how unexpectedly good they are.
My first thought was to put Mind Control on Nekros, since he has the shadows, to do a kind of "pet army" build for him, and make use of Mind Control, like you said, no one uses it...but the shadows don't really deal damage, and they're more of a distraction and damage reduction tool. Which is fine, but not was I was going for. I may change my Nekros to a gravedigger looter with Ore Gaze instead, or maybe rethink that down the road when his Soul Punch gets changes. I'd love to make Soul Punch useful in some big way.
But yeah, pet build for Revenant, pretty awesome! I've done very little with Revenant since I got him, but this looks really fun!
FYI:
I have tried nekros with ore gaze.... not what you expect really, it's decent crowd control and does add bonus drops... BUT Enemies turned to stone don't get cut in pieces by slash weapons so you are trading 1 extra drop chance at death with petrify and 1 drop chance after death with nekros, for 2 or more chances of loot from the pieces of their corpse after death using slash weapons... so loot-wise, it's not any better using a slash weapon and no helminth nekros, but that's regarding the slash meta...
It does allow you to ditch slash based weapons and adds CC.
In the end, I couldn't survive super long in steel path survivals with ore gaze on nekros. The line of sight aspect of petrify, and the lack of space for range mods on that nekros build are big issues. Way too many enemies are still attacking you with not enough range equipped and also any enemies behind/next to or outside your 20 meter range just end up 1 tapping you anyways...
I find for lower-mid tier, I enjoy using smite infusion because his army of shadows actually will wipe the floor with enemies, and using a savage silence build with a slash melee weapon for actual farming. You can also use warcry, that works great with nekros because of his affinity for healing return melee builds and you can slow enemies.. I haven't really tried a double slow effect with warcry and terrify yet, that actually sounds dope. The enemies would run away SUPER slow so you can easily wipe them out and them running away isn't a problem.
Although I still want to try the tactical potatoe nekros build using garudas helminth ability... it's just really hard to find the sweet spot when you have to put on anywhere from 1-3 augment mods on nekros just so his abilities are working right. Lol you need despoil no matter what, then whatever helminth ability augment you might need, plus his 4th augment for survivability or swap it for adaptation...
So much playtesting, so little mod space... I feel like despoil should just always work with hp instead of Energy, it would naturally synergizes with the health orbs he gets. Wtf, synergy only works with augments.. limiting build designs.. Lol thanks DE.
Blood Altar with a normal shadows build makes him high end level viable
Really digging Nyx's mind control spin to this build. I enjoyed this Revenant build video because the other videos either require a shit ton of forma and or you need to use everything in your arsenal to make it a great Warframe. In my opinion if you need earth, water, wind and fire, the moon and sun, and all of the stars to come together into the shadow realm to make a Warframe do great (i.e, Needing a specific school tree, specific companion, and to have a shit ton of forma (anything over 5).), than it's not worth it. In this video you not only came up with something I didn't even think I'd see the value in, but you also have a simple build to it. I love it.
most other warframe youtubers "min max" and use stolen builds from overframe
like suggesting sevagoth absolutely requires 80 forma to be good
How do you add mind control
@@sirnajjgaming3994you need the helmit segment
5 out of 5 stars this is hands down one of the best build iv seen not including his null star mirage. I might do this build lol.
nono. 2 out of 2 stars. :3
One of the best frame saving helminth builds ive seen so far, great vod!
This is surprisingly the most fun and laid-back build i've ever played
I love this build. It makes his augment mod thrall pack very useful.
The true Summoner build still in 2022😎
*sad Nekros noises
I'll definitely give this one a spin, so I have a reason to use revenant lol
This is great, you basically made a commander unit on your side xD
Earned a new sub just come across your channel & you have some gr8 ideas for builds. Ill be binge watching them tomorrow. Ty for some new fresh ideas.. Keep up the good work.
As I go through my arsenal looking at the Frames I have but don't play, Revenant was one of them that I was gearing up to start playing. It's a good thing I didn't hunker down with him and put a ton of resources into him. Revenant Prime has just been announced! I might even go ahead and shove him down Helminth's gullet now and leave his slot open for his eventually Prime variant to occupy. I'm looking forward to getting the copy of him I'm going to keep as the more I see of him the more interesting he looks to play. I'm starting to set aside the Frames that don't require much brainpower to play and using the ones that require me to pay close attention. It's like seeing Warframe in a whole new, exciting light when all the moving parts come together.
This is beautiful and is so much fun! Thank you for showing this fun synergy, it is very good and can't wait for DE to give out that Enthrall Augment
Just built, and replaced rolling guard with said augment and oh boy. Its very fun.
an interesting construct to use Thrall Pact
This is actually insane
Time to build revenant lol
Mind control thrall is a really great thing. Good on you for making this build video.
*Happy Eidolon Noises*
Ok, this build looks very funny, i'll have to try it. Congratulations on achieving a good mind control build.
Do a fashion frame video. Your frames always look awesome.
Great idea man!
hmmm this is interesting
THIS IS Genius pure and simple
I saw the video and thought "meh, really?".....YES! Really^^ First of all thanku for explaining revenant synergies in 3 minutest when I did not understand 20 min+ guides! I did some nice steelpath defenses with half the mods on level 24 and guess what.... that S&§$t works! And btw this is the only frame with kinda mind controll whos minions left dun influence the enemie counter in defenses. There can still stand 3 minions left and if those are the last ones standing, the next round will start! Very handsome. Thanku.
The one thing that triggered me...
Your flexing the Ceti Lacera...
I took a break from warframe and missed the event for Ceti Lacera... and I have a lacera riven. Lol
I would literally only use that weapon if I could ever get it... sooo jealous lol 😣
Don't worry, they've said that the Scarlet Spear event will come back some time in the future :P
another nice one Nik :)
Not out of ideas yet!
@@TwoStarPlayers that's good :)
2-star: He has one of the most synergistic kits in the game...
Nidus: Am I a joke to you?
*one of*
*Caughs in Gauss*
Will mind control allow Saryn to stack her spore damage to insane levels?
How he got mind control ? I got Danes macabre
@@sirnajjgaming3994 helminth on Nyx to replace his 4
What about rage from Equinox to speed things up? Btw this is one of the most original helminth combos. My build is similar but with bit more power strength and energy conversion.
I have YET to see a TH-camr use savage silence for a helminth build. So weird, because that's my new favorite ability lol.
I can use low range savage silence with arcane trickery and the Arca Titron on any warframe... I love it so much. Lol it's the only combo I have that can reliably deal millions of damage in 1 hit and wipe an entire room of even higher level enemies..
Using that, I have repeatedly gotten 100% of damage dealt in after mission stats in a 4 player group... and I only have 30% of total kills...
Lol you deal so much damage that the other players damage is less than 1% lolol, I didn't know that was even possible to outperform normal builds THAT much. 😂
Silence is actually super useful because enemies can't use their abilities as well, a hidden mechanic not listed in description. It just says "...limits enemy tactical response and awareness...", but that actually means it is like a "silence" spell in final fantasy, it makes casting abilities impossible...
Many enemies have annoying abilities that really affect you negatively, like when a scorpion grapples you or a heavy gunner slams the ground when you get close... but they can't do that when affected by silence... 😏
Seriously tho... I am in love with this ability now that I know it's real potential.. Lol and any frame that can open enemies up to finishers, or using naramon, is a way to build for more range as well so you aren't limited by range.. inaros with savage silence is fun and extremely good imo.
One of my latest videos is Savage Silence Inaros, haha.
i have a odd helmeth build, for valker, but you have to hold with me as it doesn't make sense on the surface, but once you dig in it does make sense, so anyway, I have replaced valkyers one (ripline) with fire Walker, but not for the speed, for the fire, as the new fire proc strips armer, and deals damige over time, but hold with me a minute longer, then you put that with a warcry with eternal war agment mod, now you don't jest move faster and deal damige by moving but you also cc them and increase how much armor you have, but more then that you can kill some of the weaker ones without whating your time, and the bigger ones have less armor to deal with and there's a stadis effect on them for condition overload, so then you have a tank that really can't die, (I have not tried it on a hustara build I can't say for that one) please feel free to comment on the idea, I have a full umbrel build on my valkyer prime I did the testing on so it might not work as well for you
here is my build
overframe.gg/build/102616/valkyr-prime/fire-walker-valkyer-with-1-amba-forma/
You're the G.O.A.T
Very good
Noice!
You are so smart !!!!
aaaah so you made a minion that doesnt die. infinite leech, mesmer charge, and affliction spread. thats big brain.
jontron: "it works! it just works!"
Nice revenant build 👍
Was wondering u got any good helminth ideas for Hydroid
I've made two Hydroid videos, one with Pull and one with Resonator!
@@TwoStarPlayers Yeah I know, just wanted a creative and engaging build for Hydroid 😃
@@zerogodkiller4677 well go figure it out.. like sheesh
wtf mind control and a thrall thats crazy 🤣 im trying that rn
I think I may have evolved this play style if your interested I'll be here
Is it possible to put caliban abilities on revenant I'd remove the spin to win for caliban's stomp
Thats pretty cool. I never have problems spreading thralls on steel path solo and no need to spread thralls on lower levels as everything dies pretty quick anyway. Rev doesn't seem too complicated. He is also completely immune to energy drain effects with his mesmer skin which makes him immortal against infested. Pair that with a bramma and spam it at your feet because you are also knockdown immune because of mes skin and infested arbitrations are trivial. Revenant is so good and many helminth abilities work well with him.
You see, you had me until you said bramma
hello. I really liked your vid (thank you for making this), I have a dumb question (too lazy to search) does this trick still works today or the Dev already updated this just like the other skills they nerfed?
This still works just fine.
Can you os a mind controled and enthralled enemy with your 3 wich could make an infinite bonus damage on this guy ?
You mean on the mind controlled target? Hmm... That's a good question. I think you'd need Natural Talent in the build in that case, to consistently have time to cast Mind Control -> Enthrall -> Reave through it before the 4 seconds are up. But I'm not sure how that would interact with Mind Control and what sort of damage buff the thrall would get. Worst case scenario it would only get a 100% damage buff, not an infinite damage buff. I can try it out when I get home and report back!
@@TwoStarPlayers anyway thank you very much for your work on helminth synergies
@@TwoStarPlayers by the way, you should test a Tesla nervos garuda with max range 134% strength(to have the 100% chance to proc bleed on your 4)and the augment of Tesla nervos. Try to have your 1 (for survivability), 2 (replaced by Tesla nervos) and your 4 active everytime to make in sort that when you kill an enemy affected by Tesla nervos it deals a slash proc to everybody in the range. I use this with a melee weapon in support
Hey, I have both revnant and nyx, but I dont know how in the world, you added mind control to his abilities? is this something specific I need to do, or am I missing something here?
The Helminth system becomes available after you buy the Helminth segment from Son's store on Deimos and install it in your Orbiter. You need to reach Rank 3 with the Entrati Syndicate before you can purchase it.
The Helminth system allows you to feed Warframes to the infested chair in your orbiter, upon which one of their abilities will become infusable on other Warframes.
So to do this, you need to 1) Get the Helminth segment, 2) Farm and craft another Nyx, 3) Feed the Nyx to the Helminth, 4) Infuse Mind Control onto Revenant.
@@TwoStarPlayers shit dude thanks, I was wondering what that chair was for, I don't think I have the helminth system, but I will look into it. bro the chair stabed my lightning starter in the neck, cant recall his atm, volt I think. and it did nothing cause at the time, he was my only warframe, I cant go into the room anymore, again, thanks for the help man,
2 questions though, if you don't mind
1) does that neck stab mean anything or nah
2)is this helminth system usable in a regular game or only in certain places?
1) If you happen to get a helminth cyst on your neck, you can use the chair to permanently remove it. The cyst is something spread between players, so usually all your warframes will eventually get one. You can also, while you have a cyst on your warframe, instead go to your incubator and use the cyst to create a Helminth Charger, an infested doggo companion.
2) Usable everywhere, once you've replaced an ability it's permanent (but you can undo it if you want).
Also, you can usually only access the infested room if you have a cyst on your neck. Once you purchase the Helminth Segment from Son on Deimos and install it though, the door will unlock and the infested room will become permanently accessible.
@@TwoStarPlayers ok thank you so much this has cleared up a whole bunch, hope your having a great day :)
How you add mind control
Look up what the Helminth System is
Is this build still worth using in 2024? Just got revenant prime few days ago and i really like the puppet revenant build type
Yes, still works! I would recommend getting the Thrall Pact augment as well, that didn't exist when this video was made and it gives him a LOT more weapon damage.
gonna run this build real soon does mind freak work on thralls for 500% extra damage?
Haven't tried it, but it should work
Would this be useful for archon hunts? I just finished unlocking them and have a few hunts under my belt but crowd control has been a noticeably tough obstacle when in the boss rooms
Yup, Revenant is my go-to for Archon hunts.
Where do you get the dragon scales circling your frame?
It's an ephemera you get for buying Nezha Prime access
The build does spark some interest for me, but how does it fair against nullifiers?
Nullifiers do mess with both Thralls and mind controlled targets. Since this is a melee-centric build though, you could just run a Miter as your Primary with the Neutralizing Justice mod and a bunch of Multishot to quickly and permanently disable any Nullifier you see.
What is Arcane Grace used for?
Nothing at all lol, I just had it on while experimenting with the build but it's completely pointless, just use literally anything else instead.
@@TwoStarPlayers Ah, I guessed it was something like that.
Lol and will the new archon system I've taken revenant to a whole new level he can 1 shot anything and I accumulate thrills at an increased rate I can 1 shot acolytes and I'm invincible not to mention the pillars of void juice turn new thrills so you can corner camp if you want to get a feel for the play style
What archon shards you use?
@@traybeezybeats best part is you don't need archon shards and as soon as they change the archon system I may try something new but for the time being boost duration with red shards
i hope DE doesn't remove the ability to do this...
how did you put mind control on revenant exactly???
Read up on the Helminth System.
which companion would you use fo revenant?
Probably a Panzer Vulpaphyla, spreading Viral procs to enemies around you helps kill things fast even when you get up to high levels.
@@TwoStarPlayers Ive been rocking with Dethcube for the extra energy ill try panza thanks
Oh, wait, you don't need corrosive projection with this build, do you?
Nah, not required.
Honestly run stuff like Corrosive and Fire on my Rev Weapons
What ephemera is that?
The one you get for buying the Nezha Prime Access.
Nice subtítulos español
Still sounds like a waste.
Dead thralls will still spread through pillar spouts and pillar shots.
Why worry about being targeted or being hit when you have Mesmer Skin. Just rolling guard and Mesmer up. Or just reave.
Thralls do no damage. Neither does Mind Control. Especially at the levels that Danse Macabre wouldnt peak.
another layer of defense can’t hurt
Yeah, I explain as much in the video: this build won't let you do anything that Revenant can't already do. What it does is make his gameplay loop much less complicated, because it makes it so that there are less things happening that you need to keep track of.
Revenant is high skill ceiling for high reward, this turns him into medium skill ceiling for high reward.
@@TwoStarPlayers
I dont really think it does though. One point I didn't touch in is the loop you were demonstrating in the survival. You either melee with Mesmer, or you Reave sometimes for fun. Thralls don't really play a role in the melee, and if you reave to kill thralls, chances are very high you make thralls through pillars. That being said, I don't think thralls are a key role to the loop. If this was a solely 100% reave build, maybe, but I doubt I'd notice the difference than if I didn't use Mind control
Sure, I can see that. But for someone who doesn't have a perfect endgame build and are working with somewhat limited resources, the Helminth system opens up new paths for them to be able to clear high-level content. With this build, you can just opt to reave-spam and kill any enemy regardless of level without having to pay much attention to what you're doing. Is melee killing faster? Absolutely, but that's the case for practically every Warframe in the game once you get up to a certain level.
Mind Control here is essentially to Revenant what Vast Untime is to Xaku. It's just being used to extend the duration of one of your thralls, basically. So since this is a helminth combo focusing on the Enthrall/Reave combo, it's more focused towards high-level play, but yeah Dance Macabre is better for low-level clear.
My only gripe here is:
1. Ignoring the fact that Iron Skin can totally just absorb and store damage within its invulnerability window, what level do you need to play at for Iron Skin to be one-shot(which, as explained above, should be theoretically impossible)? At that point I'm either getting trade-banned, dying of boredom, or both.
2. Mind Control is still Mind Control. The efficiency of this combo relies purely on the whims of the AI, and take it from someone who loves Nyx, that invulnerable, damage-boosted heavy gunner WILL make the 200 IQ play of taking cover against a single lancer.
Ultimately though, I personally really like this for its aesthetics. It focuses more on the vampirism theme of Revenant, which was what originally got me excited for him ever since they revealed him as "Vlad". Definitely gonna try this on my Revenant. 👍
yes 1 hour gets me bored also. I don't know how anyone could stay longer.. ahaha
I swear all of Limbo's abilities are broken and DE will nerf everyone to the ground. Please DE stop. Leave a fragile frame alone.
Also its kind of funny, now days you see some player who still use health mods while the few who understand the mechanics of shield gating only have base health.