Infinite Punishment For a Limited Life? How Can This Be Fair?
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- Hello guys. Today, we will examine together a very important question that comes to our minds. We live a limited life. But in an eternal realm, we will receive rewards and punishment for what we do. Let's find out the reason with this video.
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00:00 Intro
00:30 Is there really a place called hell? Can you prove it?
02:20 Why is hell eternal?
03:15 What kind of crime would deserve an eternal punishment in hell?
04:37 Will people who do many good deeds, but don’t believe in Allah, go to hell?
09:05 At the beginning of this episode, we said, “No hell, no justice.” So, if there is hell, where’s the mercy?
09:53 What Should we do to stay away from hell?
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Well explained. Though I am Muslim. This video made my Iman more strong. Thanks to Allah , He gave me eyes that I could see this video , He gave me ears that I could listen this explanation. He gave me every thing . Thank you Allah , the Almighty.😍😘❣️
Never stop learning my brother.. never stop.. May Allah Rahmatin You.
@@budean88 thank you brother.❣️
@@truthamazing5027
Continue the verse QS 19:72
Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees.
@@truthamazing5027 Don't need to hate and communicate with Islamic scholar. You will get all your answers.
@@truthamazing5027 have you done ? OK, Now Get out. I don't have time for you. And after death you will see who will burn in hell and who will not. So you don't need to worry about Muslims.
*Honestly the last part about Allah's mercy is soooo emotional 🥺🥺 I Love You Allah Soooo much*
Allah-u Ghafur-u Rahim.
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
@@truthamazing5027
You misunderstood the verse, you better search for the right meaning or find someone you know that he has knowledge in the quran, so he can explain it to you in your local language, so you can fully understand what it means
@@muhammedibrahem5100 nice try liar
تفسير Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
There is not one of you but shall approach it) there is not a single one of you, to the exclusion of prophets and messengers, save that he will enter it, i.e. hell. (That is a fixed ordinance of your Lord) it is a decree that must necessarily take place.
@@truthamazing5027lol do your research. This verse is talking about the bridge of Sirat and under it is hell. Everyone will pass over it to get to heaven or fall and go to Jahannam
Mashallah, this opens up our heart to be always grateful and humble
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
Thank you... I am ashamed that i have been thinking about this recently... 'how can this punishment be fair'?... this explanation made me dropped a few tears.. i didn't expect to get the answer to this effortlessly..
that's how Allah responds to sincere seekers❤
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
@@truthamazing5027nice try, except that it isn't.
The verse after it: Then We will deliver those who were devout, leaving the wrongdoers there on their knees.
@@scarazed7609 Hello! :)
Me personally, I cannot understand until now why anyone should enter a tormenting Hell if God is merciful. To torment a wrongdoer is not needed to be merciful towards the ones who have been wronged, is it? In paradise, they can experience eternal joy. On earth you have penalties to prevent harm from happening again but in the afterlife those earthly risks would be gone.
I don't see why there should be retaliation in the afterlife.
@@minarar.2042 not believing in allah automatically means you don't accept his mercy/not worthy of it, that's why disbelievers get no mercy.
Also,muslim wrongdoers serve a limited sentence.
These guys are doing incredible work..keep it up.🙄
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
@@truthamazing5027 dear brother/sister, well ig you have a misconception...the word is "pass over it", that means every Muslim has to cross a bridge(there is a bridge above the hell fire, called sirat bridge, it is thinner than a hair and sharper than a sword, and a person will cross it easily or harshly depending on his/her deeds) so every humankind("you") will have to pass over it to reach heaven, while crossing that bridge questions will be asked, if they are able to pass in that they will cross the bridge swiftly else they will fall in hell fire and burn in it.
Hope it explains :)
@@truthamazing5027 wasn't a nice try
@@mohdworthy8260 whatever loser
Quran 5: 21
O my people! Enter the holy land (Palestine) which Allah has assigned to you, and turn not back (in flight) for then you will be returned as losers."
@@truthamazing5027 out of context!!! Booo
I like the analogy of a king giving present to a person to share to his people, it gives me a better understanding and perspective. I will use that analogy next time when someone ask me about non muslim good people
The main difference between muslim and non muslim is iman faith in Allah
@@drmajidkhanpharmacy3683 I wonder why Iman is a criteria of punishment. And then especially why it is given the maximum penalty
@@minarar.2042 Because it is the only valuable thing about a person to Allah. Everything else is worthless. Think about it.
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
@@zphre7548 It is also stated in the Qur'an that Allah solely created Jinns and humans for worshipping Him. But why then eternal tormenting punishment for disbelievers or even Hell, if the only purpose of us is worship and someone simply didn't fulfill that purpose.
A human would act this way out of anger if something doesn't work as wished, but Allah would have a greater purpose of doing so, wouldn't He?
Might it be for deterrence on earth to make some turn to believe in reaction to the warning of Hell and then implementation of the punishment because only then can a threat really deter if one expects that it will be realised?
But since we humans in this world cannot know whether someone has actually gone to Hell or not after his crimes, or whether he or she will go to Hell (God is supposed to be the ultimate judge, whose decision we cannot know), the actual implementation of the punishment of Hell does not serve the purpose of deterrence. Since we cannot perceive the implementation of the threat in the afterlife here in this world (we only have the message it would happen), but only the threat, an implementation here does not cause any greater credibility and deterrence.
What does the implementation of Hell, especially eternal torture, contribute to the goal of making us worship Him?
Very rational n logical explaination.
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
Damn, these answers are mind blowing
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
Such a great explanation.
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
Very well explained Jazakuma Allah khayran
Very good concept.
Barakallahu feekum.
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
Jazakallah khairon katsiron ya Akhi for this beneficial works for the ummah
I was thinking about the question of this title. And I thought you will upload a video of this question one day. Here it is.
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
Narrated Anas bin Malik رض:
The Prophet Muhammad ﷺ said:
❝Make ease (for people) and don’t make difficulty. Give good news (to people) and don’t chase them away (from the religion).❞
[Bukhari]
This is such a constructive statement.
That's what it should be like.
Why does Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 84, Hadith Number 57 claim that Prophet Mohammed pbuh, Allah’s Apostle said "Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him."?
Is it false?
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
These kind of videos are very beneficial in terms of precise and concise answer
Allahu Akbar. Allahu Akbar. Allahu Akbar ❤️. May Allah bless the people of this channel according to his infinite mercy.
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
Epic quality, epic content! Thank you so much
I don't know but
It is a thing in all that
Nobody's parents will happy after listening their children converted to any other religion
Either hindu, muslim,etc
And in Hinduism
I don't know either they are abusing or not
But if it happened
In islam,
Either they will say
You are a fake account or propaganda or somebody give you money to do This
In present time
And if it happened in past
Either you will be executed or get burned alive
As happened from 7 th century bce
And you can ask me
Question
Which breaks your belief in Hinduism
I will try to answer them
Okay 👍
@@sunilpandey3289 1. I don't care about what parents think. Why are you giving godly status to parents? Why do you think parents happiness is always right?
2. Hinduism doesn't have a single rule for everything, unlike the Qur'an. Punarjanama, momsha, swarga narka, sansaara, aham brahmasmi, atithi deva bhava, etc are nothing but perplexing and senseless subjects. Moreover they literally have images of God, Which is where they have crossed the baseline.
Secondly, islam is the all truth. No one with an open heart and an open mind would deny the prophecies and the messeges of Mohammad s.a.w.
@@Ravager2946 actually,i am answering your comment
2 months old with 5.2k likes and 456 comments (for context)
In which,you said you are a convert Muslim
So, what was the reason
You leave hinduism?
@@sunilpandey3289 i literally gave you the answer above. Also there's no such thing as 'leavig hinduism' or ' joining hinduism' unlike in the case of islam where you actually have a set of practices which you leave or join. Even Hindus don't know their own religion. If you put two people in one room, you won't get commin answers and agreements because they don't read their books, this religion isn't even a religion. However the tables are turned in the case of Islam.
@@Ravager2946
Religion definition:
“the belief in a god or gods and the activities connected with this"
So,by definition
Hinduism is a religion
And
Yes,many Hindus don't read their own scriptures
Just like you did and choose a different path
It's your choice
But you didn't even try to find your answer
And
Two people give two different answers
Because their are many ways to worship God in Hinduism
So,the reason is Hinduism is complex
That's why you leave hinduism or something else ?
Jazakumullah....the answers sought after....🤲🏼
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
All I can say is thanks for these great videos and work keep it up
Good questions as well as answers.
Jazakom Allah kairan
Maa Shaa Allah...Good explanation 👍👍👍👍👍
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
Thanks a lot guys.
Mind blowing answers!!!
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
Amazing explantion, first time at this channel
Good video. What I sometimes struggle with are regular people instead of mass-murderers. Why does a regular person that doesn't harm anyone deserve hell? I think the best answer right now for me is the "good deed" answer in this video. Thank you for giving a longer explanation.
Also remember scholars also say about who deserves hell eternally. Message of Islam should have reached him and he has rejected it. If he got distorted message of Islam or didn't reach him then God will test them again in the hereafter. So you have to be really arrogant to reject the truth after listening to it.
@@MZD15 Why would rejecting it be a crime? Belief or disbelief in God don't harm any being in this world and cannot harm God if he is above all creation. Additionally, belief is not a conscious decision in contrast to most actions
@@minarar.2042 How do you know it can't harm? You have not undergone every single possibility seen or unseen? Does denying a king/ruler/constitution their authority harm anyone ? on the face of it, it appears as if no it doesn't, then why they have the strictest punishment? You and this universe did not create itself, the one you are denying is the one that created you, do you think you should be left alone? you have been given body soul earth enjoyment feelings senses and God knows what else for free and after getting all these you deny the one who gave it to you? it won't be justice if God let you go, but God is even more just than the person or thing that loves you the most so God will do justice so do not worry....
@@Foshoo1 I wonder why would it be just to punish an unbeliever from a Creator's point of view. In human society, an authority punishes the ones who do not acknowledge it for the risk of breaking their rules or threatening the power of the authority. If people living in a democracy deny to do so and do not maintain it by contributing their part, the system can easily fall apart. Similarly, in a monarchy, the ruler risks a loss of power without approval of the people in his territory. If an almighty Creator and his system are superior to all creation, they couldn't fall apart due to any creature's disbelief. As far as I can see, the belief itself is not more and not less than having a certain inner notion of the world. A worldview, mostly influencing the verbal and practical actions we carry out. And those are what determines, as far as we can see, how we affect each other's lives.
If someone denies the existence of God, questions it or is unsure about it, he doesn't necessarily mistreat or disdain the creation itself. You can believe in no God and no Creator or be unsure about it and still value and treat all beings as kindly as it's just possible.
If we give living beings their rights simply by saying that they deserve praise as a creation of a creator like the creator Himself in order to honor Him, then by denying His existence we are in fact depriving living beings as a creation of their rights and treat them badly when we see the fact that they are a product of the Creator as the only reason for treating them well.
This is not the case, however, if one grants living beings their rights and the purpose of treating them well because of themselves, regardless of their origin, because they are sentient, thinking, living beings. One is entitled to human rights because one is born a human being.
And if God is superior to all creation and we so powerless in comparison to Him, we cannot harm Him by not believing.
Of course, you cannot undergo every possibility of harm, since our perception is limited. Nor can you claim it is certainly going to be punished. There is a basic uncertainty to these questions. But at least, as far as I can see, there is no observable harm just due to belief and worldview, but due to actions.
I am always ready to be taught better if it should be in fact otherwise
@@minarar.2042 You're forgetting one main thing: none of this needed to exist. God would still be God if He didn't create you and me. The fact that He created you and me and everything else is enough to be grateful for. Plus, that's where faith comes in. When God says He will be fair, He is fairer than your mother, but there is still punishment. That right there, I have to say, I don't know. Maybe there is something I can't see since I have a limited sense of perception. Maybe God created the universe in such a way that whatever evil happens, it happens due to us doing all that He told us not to do, but we can't see the whole picture. Maybe there is a different explanation, I don't know. There is uncertainty here, no doubt about that, but if you keep thinking things along this line and pray to God in your heart, you will see that you will eventually feel a sense of fulfillment inside your heart. A better question is, why didn't God show us everything, everything that happens, the whole chain of consequences? But then, God would have created gods and not humans. If God really wanted to create humans and then show them or give all the answers, we would have asked what the point of all this drama is. Maybe what God will give us is not something that can just be given without earning it. If God wanted to do that, He would have created beings and then made them happy and continued to do so for infinity, but then again, what's the point?
Amazing. This is indeed often questioned and not many people had good explanation of it. I hope more people saw this because it really reflect perfect logic on Islam
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
one of the best videos ❤❤🔥🔥
Allahmdullillah this is toughest question but Allhamulliha by Allah your team give best answer of that question
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
This channel has solutions to many doubts an average Muslim has.
ما شاء الله تبارك الله
great video. I wish everyone watch this
I am very proud of you guys
MashaAllah such an eloquent response
3:39 The degree of punishment will increase or decrease depending on who you are insulting.
Hello! That's indeed the case in many human societies. When you insult or slap a king it causes you more trouble than doing so to someone normal, but is that because the same slap or insult is worse when it hits a king? Whether they are king or not doesn't determine how painful and harmful it is and both persons have the same right to remain unhurt. Isn't the only difference the attention is raises?
And therefore it is more troublesome in our human society.
Not because it's a worse deed than slapping or insulting anyone else.
Thank you for this video. May Allah swt give you ajr.
Masha Allah what a good explanation
alhamdulillah, subhanallah. thank you, thank you and thank you. may Allah reward all of you here in this life and in the next 🤲🏻
High value lads!!!!
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
Assalamu alaikum, team Towards Eternity. Here to say that this video of yours answered my questions on the infinite punishment I've been seeking answer to, since long. May Allah reward you more and more. I want to mention that if it possible for you guys make a video on the concept of Monism and Monotheism. And why monotheism is the only truth. On a journey to refine my knowledge on my religion, it will be of great benefit to millions. JazakAllahu khair from India.
MashAllah really great video
This channel deserves 6 billion subscribers and will Inshallah
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
Allah razı olsun
very great
This video cleared many doubts which I had earlier. Thanks a lot brother. May Allah bless you and give you jannat-ul-Firdaus
baraka allahu fikom
Great answers and examples. May Allah swt accept your efforts.
Just a reminder, most of these examples and answers comes from the Risale-i Nur Collection which is written by Bediüzaman Said Nursi is a one of the greatest scholar of İslam.
You might want to check and read if you need strong answers like that and more… 🙂
Thank you
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
@@truthamazing5027 finished it properly
[Surah Maryam: 72]
Sahih International:
Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees.
I love this channel ❤️ makes my iman strong and makes me think through my life as a muslium !! ALLAH is the greatest ☝🏻
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
Mashallah. Mind blowing
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
Love from Canada.
Thank you for this video. I was wondering why hell is eternal for disbelievers, but this video made me understand why it is fair and just.
Alhamdulillah ♥️
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
2:32 The punishment is not for the time duration of the crime.
The punishment is given based on the nature of the crime.
Great 💞💞💞
Perfect
Alhamdulillah
Good Works alone are not enough to enter heaven. But by faith
1:42 It is unimaginable to think that the One who gave us this characteristic(sense of justice) would be unfair.
Therefore, Allah the Almighty will sentence those who deserve punishment in the court He has established, and those who have a claim, their claims will be heard.
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
masha allah beautiful video
Subhanallah, jazakallah ♥️
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
CLEAR
Jazaak Allah
Another idea for the eternal punishment is that the doomed ones will (as Allah SWT informed us in the Quran) will do the same deeds if the were returned to live, as if live in "dunia" is a sample of how they would spend their live no matter how long it would be
Nice
This question of eternal hell was stuck in my mind jazakhAllah you cleared my question . Also i got one more question some sufi muslims say there is no god god is in us all not somewhere else and prophet pbuh was enlightened because he did meditation in ghar e hira for 15 years and thats why he can do prophecies please put some light on it . Thanks
the quran, 11:107
staying there forever, as long as the heavens and the earth will endure, except what your Lord wills. Surely your Lord does what He intends.
Apparently the paradise is also a solar system and its only eternal until Allah says otherwise
I think the same logic applies to hell, its external until Allah says otherwise
as we all muslims know, Al-ikhlas
Allah has no equal, not even eternity equals Allah. he has no equal.
plain and simple
Allah will not reside in human or any of His creations. Back to basic by learning characters of Allah.
What is in us is a reflection of God.
When you stand in front of the mirror, what you see is a reflection, it has nothing of its own except what it reflects of you. This is the nature of our inner self, our soul. It has the limitless potential to reflect Allah's qualities and attributes but on its own, it owns nothing, has nothing and can do nothing.
Do not confuse God with His own creation just because you can see Him reflected in His creation.
When you look at the stars at night in all their magnificence, you do not say, God is inside the stars, do you? Just because the stars reflect His quality of Magnificence. So why will you think God resides inside the Human?
Our inner self is connected to God at all times just as your reflection in the mirror is connected to the real you.
This is the important distinction. You are a servant of a powerful master who has dominion over everything and requires your humility and submission.
You are a vessel through which His divine will and attributes can be anchored into this physical reality on Earth.
It's easier when you stop trying to contain or understand God because He defies all understanding. Instead, try to understand who you are and the relationship you have with Him.
And Allah knows best.
Salam!
@@jamilamustaphaa Walekum assalam brother thanks for the explanation 🫡❤️ but it was not me that belive this some sufis say and they use examples like buddha and like enlightenment is when you get absorbed in god and be one with him
@@eone2345 can you give me where can i find the characteristics?
I have only one question , how do you have this much knowledge ? What do you study ? Please give the source
Btw video is amazing. .May ALLAH bless you
@Xadija Mamed Jazakallah .
Ma sha Allah 🥰
Ameen. Allah DECREED all Muslims will burn.
Quran 19:70-71
And We truly know best who is most deserving of burning in it.
There is none of you who will not pass over it.1 ˹This is˺ a decree your Lord must fulfil.
لا اله الا الله . ما شاء الله . الحمد لله
Assalamualaikum
Very good video, sadly it s lypsync
It's dubbed in English. The Original video is in their Turkish channel
The problem humans have is time they don't give time to his creator although they give time to everything. If a person give a hour or two to his creator then he surely become half of muslim by himself after that he will be guided towards Quran by Allah Hazrat Luqman is the example. So give your God 1 hour of your life, think about the questions you have after that ask those question to yourself your body and your mind will give you answers. Surely Allah will show us his signs outside of us and inside of us.
Thanks to allah for recommending this video
How can be fair infinite reward for limited life ?
So that you strive to be good, or you get the infinite punishment for this life limited time mistake.
What you must ask your self is, with so much reward for a good deeds and act of worshiping God, why people still have the guts to making those big sins which the punishment is severe.
So it's simple, become slave of God you got infinite reward. If you become slave of your lust, ego and desire be ready for the infinite punishment.
Because He intended to gave you that from the start
This life just determines the nature of souls i.e. either Arrogant/ Evil / Rebellious or Submissive/ Good/ Obedient.
There's a verse which says when the dwellers of the Hellfire ask for one more chance then they'll be said its too late & Allah s.w.t. says even if they're sent again Allah knows that they'll again rebel, disobey & commit the same crime.
@@adige.777 you said it better than mine
I wouldn't care if infinite rewards for me are unfair.
9:00 did he just say slapping your kid is okay? This guy needs a reality check
Before breaking down every question and answer I will make my 2 main objections to all his answers:
1. There is no free will;
2. Isolating criminals from society in prison for them not to commit more crimes is ABSOLUTELY NOT the same as torturing people for eternity to punish them.
Now let’s break down every answers to every question:
1. Basically Allah acts like a king in his kingdom, like an absolute monarch, totalitarian dictator but not like a democratic leader. Whatever he says is right and if you disagree, then you will be punished. Also see my main objection #2👆
2. No one says punishment should be for the duration of the crime, I don’t know where this guy got it from. He either deliberately misinterpreted the question or just didn’t understand it. Probably the second. The point is that a person gets infinite punishment for a finite nature of the crime.Human courts work this way(to oversimplify): Kill one person - go to jail for 10 years. Kill two - go for 20. But god is like: “no no, doesn’t matter how many you kill - you will be tortured forever”. What the actual hell??😅
Also life sentence of a person still ends with his death, so it’s NOT infinite. Souls in hell are punished FOREVER. Flawed logic all over the place.
3. His example about getting eternal punishment for the reason of god being an eternal being just basically shows how insecure, narcissistic and vengeful this “absolutely perfect, all-loving and merciful” god is.
4. Objection to this is there is no free will. Also I am not claiming that I should be honored for my good deeds, I just do good deeds cause I want to help others, I love seeing other people happy. God on the other hand wants to be honored and worshipped for his good deeds. This again shows god’s insecurity and narcissistic attitude.
5. The first part of his answer I agree with. I don’t agree with people saying: “oh, we are so small and insignificant compared to the universe”. However then he proceeds with total nonsense. A sign that there is electric shock or mother preventing her child from touching a heater is just a warning of a natural occurring process that could be dangerous and harmful for you. It’s NOT the same as if someone tells you he’s gonna torture you for eternity if you don’t worship him. Nothing compassionate here. Again, come on, these analogies are just 🤦♂️
6. First objection: there is no free will. Second objection: God is multiplying evil. Look, instead of asking god: “Why didn’t you punish the person for wrongdoing? Where is your mercy?” I personally would ask: “Why did you let him do it in the first place? Where is your mercy?” There is no violent punishment that can compensate torturing and killing a child. Just don’t let this happen in the first place if you’re an all-powerful all-knowing all-loving being.
7. Basically all the previous questions and answers don’t matter cause in the end everyone will be forgiven🤷♂️ He could’ve just said that in the beginning and the video would’ve been 30 seconds long. And another thing: why create this world? If you are an infinitely loving and caring being and in the end everyone will be in heaven anyways, then just put everyone there right away! Without making people live though this life, with all it’s negative aspects, pain, suffering, temptations to sin etc.
This is interesting, I'm Jewish
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6;04 ..my question would be if someone does a bad deed then also you are gonna give credit to the creator???why you are denying to give credit to the creator for a bad deed and give credit only for a goood deed ..this is not just..
The creator did not ask us to do bad deeds.
@@LittleRedRidingHoo But He created the possibility for both good and bad deeds to happen on earth and enabled us to do them. He gave us a the ability of making choices. Without the creator neither bad nor good deeds would exist.
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I wonder:
Aren't those two surahs contradicting?
“All good and evil are from Allah.” (Surah an-Nisa 4/78)
Here I understand: It is Allah who created good and evil. He caused both to come into existence.
“What comes to you of good is from Allah, but what comes to you of evil, [O man], is from yourself. (Surah an-Nisa 4/79)
Here I understand: All good is caused by Allah, all evil by yourself.
Doesn't the consent and the message of Allah only influence our partial will, whose proportion would be equally small for both bad and good deeds?
For both the good and the bad deeds, the physical major part of the deed needs to be created existentially, and then it needs a smaller contribution of the people's partial will to be acted out. For example, giving an apple to a poor person is a favor. The major part of its benefit, the of this favor needs to be created, it comes from Allah.
The apple, one's own body, the man's body, the feeling of wanting to help and the feeling of hunger being satisfied are said to have been created.
If someone stabs another person with a knife in a fight, for the act to take place, the material physical conditions first created by Allah were also required: the knife, one's own body, the man's body, the feeling of anger, as well as the feeling of the man's pain and sorrow would have been created. And then a small part of the murderers own will would bring it into action.
Both bad and good can be caused sometimes actively and sometimes passively. Passively, by refraining from the other.
By not doing the good, I can allow more bad to happen. By not doing the bad, I can allow more good happen. Here, too, the existentially created part is equally high in both, and the part of our partial will is small.
In both cases, the main reason for the occurrence would be with the creator. If the part of the human's will, that is influenced by Allah's communicated consent to the good, his message to do good and abstain from bad, makes up the smaller proportion of good deeds, it also makes up the smaller proportion of bad deeds, doesn't it?
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@@minarar.2042 My mother taught me how to use a knive for cooking. The moment she introduce the knive to me, possibilities exist that in the future I might commit murder using a knive. Would I give credit to my mother for the crime?
Regarding the two surahs, good things happen from god. Bad things that happens to you is also from god, but it is because of your fault.
@@LittleRedRidingHoo I understand that your decision is also needed for the crime to happen. But if you use the knife instead to chop food and cook for people in need, is the credit given to your mother? Then she isn't responsable either for the good decision you made.
When Allah's (SWT) love for His human beings is greater than the love of 70 human mothers combined, how can He put us into the miseries of life? A mother would never want her child to suffer from any kind of pain, moreover she would do anything possible for her to minimize her child's pains and sufferings. How can Allah SWT (for whom everything is possible) Himself make human beings go through this painful life? Is testing us in this world more important for Him than His own love for us?
How can He let Iblees play his filthy tricks to corrupt human beings when He loves us so much? Instead of testing our love for Him (our faith and our deeds), why doesn't He love us unconditionally without these tests and trials just like a mother...? Or He doesn't love us like a mother...? Or He just loves us like a king loves his slaves?
I am a Muslim by the way. Peace ❤️
If they don't do good deeds for God for what reasons they do them?
Even though in Chinese Legend mention about 5000 times reincarnation, but so far we only got news of 900 times reincarnation and mostly in other planets and galaxies ...
So this is not our first try on earth, we lived in other planets and galaxies before many many times, but life on earth could be our last chance ...
and interestingly our form in other planets resemble an embryo stages, so quite funny forms ...
Now, it makes sense that we are now perfect as human being with arms and legs, because our previous forms in other planets were resemble our embryo development ...
Some scholars like Ibn Taymiyyah mentioned that Hellfire is not necessarily forever.
That was for sinning Muslim only
@@eone2345 There are also scholars who say non-muslims will be interrogated on the Day of Judgment and ultimately asked whether they turn to Allah
@@minarar.2042 all human will be judged, except one very special group, so that everyone will know and accept their judgement. On that day, not an atom of deed will be missed either good or bad and everyone will regret whether they are Muslim or not, including Prophets.
Even if a Muslim who have the deeds of goodness of 70 Prophets, he will still on his knees when Hell was shown to them. Only one person are the exception from all that.
@@eone2345 But the final decision cannot be known by anybody but Allah himself, can it?
@@minarar.2042 only Allah knew, but exception for some that Allah already mentioned in Quran and thru His Prophet pbuh. Even a Muslim will never know whether they will still die as Muslim or not, since Satan will come to his death bed and deceived him as long as he's still breathing.
Surah in Quran chapter 111, named Al-Masad for example, Allah already mentioned about Abu Lahab - uncle of Prophet Muhammad pbuh and his wife who will be in hell. This verse came while Abu Jahal still living while he never once pretend to embrace Islam just to debunk this surah.
Also about Abu Talib, who was another uncle of Prophet pbuh who are loved by him and help Prophet pbuh a lot. And he was known to be very good to Prophet pbuh too.
Firaun and Iblis was another example and there's many in Quran which Allah already told about their place in hell. Not only that, even for Muslim man and women with sins, are threaten with hellfire too.
Edit: verse to chapter 111
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This is why Allah said "bring them the good news about Hell" If God had no mercy, we didn't even exist in the first place, and will be no warning about something like Hell, etc.
For me, If you think something is bad it's actually "You" who is already thinking about goodness before that "bad things" happens, this simple thought actually mercy in itself IYKWIM.
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Because his life Curve extension will extend to infinity.
It's a constant life Curve to infinity, WITH THE SAME BAD DOINGS, EVEN IF HE LIVES TO INFINITY, HE WILL DO THE SAME BAD THINGS, HE IS DOING NOW. EVEN IF HE SEES HILL AND CAME BACK, HE WILL DO THE SAME BAD DOINGS AGAIN.
THEN HE DESERVES AN INFINITE PUNISHMENT.
But the human mindset is changeable. Murderers change their way and start to work for violence prevention. Also the belief. So many people convert or revert from one belief to another during their lifetime. And the belief or non-belief itself doesn't harm anyone. Why shouldn't Allah Himself be able to change someone's attitude?
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*-David A. deSilva. **_An Introduction to the New Testament: Contexts, Methods & Ministry Formation._** InterVarsity Press, pp: 402-403:*
The Gospels, like all ancient books, were reproduced manually. For every church that wanted to have access to the Gospel of Luke, there was a copyist at work (whether a skilled believer or a professional copyist) reproducing a manuscript word by word. Copyists were not afraid to “improve” the text if they encountered a problem, whether a grammatical mistake, a stylistic infelicity or a concept or reference requiring a brief explanation. We often find, not surprisingly, scribal attempts at harmonization-assimilating one Evangelist’s version of a saying to the version familiar to the scribe. This is nowhere more obvious than in the attempts by many scribes to bring Luke’s version of the Lord’s Prayer in line with Matthew’s version, the form the prayer was known and said in the churches (also preserved in the Didache, a late-first-century or early-second-century church manual). Resistance to difference and internal contradiction runs deep. A copyist familiar with the Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Jewish Scriptures, might also tend to “correct” quotations of Scripture as he copied a Gospel to make the quotation conform to the Old Testament more closely or attempt to make better sense out of the text.
A few minutes ago I visited a channel on TH-cam.the TH-camr is Christian and trying to prove Islam wrong. I feel really sad about this what should I do
He is probably wrong about everything he says about Islam.
Hello! 😊
I have a question which is more related to the purpose of creation and I couldn't find an answer to it yet.
Allah is said to be perfect.
How is it understandable from human reasoning, that this want, this intention to create us arose from a perfect God?
We as humans, as living beings, do have wants in order to attain something to improve our existence.
It is explained God created us to choose to worship Him, instead of worship without choice as the archangels would do, He wanted someone to chosenly worship Him. He solely created us for His pleasure.
But how can a perfect God want something? He doesn't need us, but wants us. But how can he have a want?
He can't be improved upon, he can't be made happier or have an improvement from anything if he is already perfect in every sense.
Thank you in advance for answering if you find the occasion to do so. :)
The angels also asked something similar, as said in the Quran.
Allah responded that He knows that which they don't. Basically, there is a divine wisdom behind this action that would be impossible for us to understand.
@@zphre7548 So we as humans don't know why we have this purpose?
@@minarar.2042 Do we have to? And does it matter if we know now?
@@zphre7548 I personally don't think so, I don't believe we can claim to know anything about the supernatural with certainty and to me it is alright if we don't. What makes me wonder a lot is when eternal tormenting punishment of disbelievers is argued to be justified by the obviousness and certainty Islam presented. Whereas when I argue that we cannot claim to gain the absolute truth in any area and cannot prove or disprove the supernatural with science, sometimes the argument arises that this is exactly the point - whether you can believe in the unseen or not. But whether you believe or not is not a conscious decision or choice, it's a feeling. It isn't in someone's power if they feel convinced or unconvinced of a certain notion of the world. You may decide to read, research and feed yourself with information, but you cannot decide purposely: "Now, I am going to believe in Islam." Or "Now, I tell myself to be convinced of Christianity." You can decide you are going to research, or have your Shahada, or join a religious community. But what you feel convinced of is an inner intention you may lead to certain areas of possibilities, but something oneself doesn't control with their will. Therefore I wonder what the purpose of a creation of human beings in order to test their faith would be. If we eventually cannot decide willingly about it, just influence it to a certain extent, what would be the point of putting someone into this test, who eventually disbelieves and then punish them for something they couldn't have decided anyway. If we eventually do not decide the result of that test, but the feeling which Allah gives us or seals our heart from, why should Allah punish us for the result if the final decision was not up to us but rather by what He made us feel?
Thank you for your consideration
Hey this my first time reply to message on TH-cam so bare with me. You seem like a respectful person so i would like to help you out the best i can :)
Why does wanting something equal imperfection exactly? Secondly why god decides to do something can only be known through revelation. Why as in the purpose can only be known unless the intention is revealed, other wise its pure speculation. Example, I make a cake. The purpose of the cake can be to eat, shown off or to throw at someone. But you would never know unless I reveal the intention why. Also why god does something doesn’t negate his existence. That would be pure emotion.
Hope this helps and please forgive me if i miss understood something :)
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4:54 But doesn't that mean those who do bad deeds are also not responsible for their actions? Since it happened because God allowed it.
All good comes from God alone.
No evil is originated from Him.
@@zphre7548 But He created the possibility for both good and bad deeds to happen on earth and enabled us to do them. He gave us a the ability of making choices. Without the creator neither bad nor good deeds would exist.
If you argue that the credit for good deeds should be given to the Creator since the physical major part of the deed needs to be created existentially, and then it needs a smaller contribution of the people's partial will to be acted out, that is both case for the good and the bad deeds.
For example, giving an apple to a poor person is a favor. The major part of its benefit, the of this favor needs to be created, it comes from Allah.
The apple, one's own body, the man's body, the feeling of wanting to help and the feeling of hunger being satisfied are said to have been created.
If someone stabs another person with a knife in a fight, for the act to take place, the material physical conditions first created by Allah were also required: the knife, one's own body, the man's body, the feeling of anger, as well as the feeling of the man's pain and sorrow would have been created. And then a small part of the murderers own will would bring it into action, both if he was told to commit the crime or to abstain from it.
Both bad and good can be caused sometimes actively and sometimes passively. Passively, by refraining from the other.
By not doing the good, I can allow more bad to happen. By not doing the bad, I can allow more good happen. Here, too, the existentially created part is equally high in both, and the part of our partial will is small.
In both cases, the main reason for the occurrence is with the creator. If the part of the human's will, that is influenced by Allah's communicated consent to the good, his message to do good and abstain from bad, makes up the smaller proportion of good deeds, it also makes up the smaller proportion of bad deeds. Therefore I wonder why to give an almighty Creator only credit for the good and not for the bad.
@@minarar.2042 quite frankly, you're overthinking.
@@zphre7548 Why
I'm just asking questions about what still seems inconsistent to me
If we don't know the answer, we can just say it is not known, but then we cannot claim the issue to be evident and perfectly making sense, can we? It's said to be logical
@@zphre7548 I just mean: If you do a good or bad deed would be equally to one part up to your decision and to the other part up to the material circumstances needed for it. The role or contribution of our own decision in carrying out a deed does not depend on whether we were told to do so or not nor does it depend on whether it has good or bad consequences. If we can be given the credit for our bad deeds, we could equally be given the credit for our good deeds. If we aren't given credit for our good deeds, we couldn't be for our bad ones either.
Guys i need help, im confused. I want to believe in allah but how can allah create evil and punish some of the wrongdoers with eternal hell? I feel like that's cruel. Like iblis was made to be flawed and allah knew this before time existed. So allah created iblis to misguide us and in the end put iblis and some people in hell forever?
Great example !
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So just because our judicial systems on earth are fucked up, that doesn't mean that a loving god would do the same...
Punishment and revenge is unwise. There doesn't exist evil or good people, there just exist people that received help in life and others that didn't. Criminals need help.
All these arguments are just arguments by blind people that cannot put themselves into the shoes of others. But also this is okay, because they were raised like that.
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I have another question: What will the creator do to animals after they die if they can't be hold as accountable for their actions as humans ?
They will be given there rights and then turned to dust. Including any oppression they faced there rights will be given and then turned to dust.
@@AbuAchilles Thank you for your explanation :)
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I hope your answers will no be hindered.
I can sum up my point about constructivism this way:
If we cannot gain certainty about whether Islam or any other belief in the supernatural is true or not, there is no determinable right and wrong in terms of belief. If everything we use to come to a conclusion about it is part of our limited perception, there is always a possibility for reality to be different from what we think it is.
And that's ok. That's possible to deal with.
Feeling more convinced of one or the other belief system is not doing any perceivable harm in the life here and now and about a possible hereafter we can only speculate, it's outside of this life.
But when we accept that reality, especially in regards of the supernatural, can be different from what we think it is, it also includes that the ones having a different religious notion than ourselves can be equally wrong or right.
@@minarar.2042 hey, so I don't know why but my comments are disappearing and coming back so if you don't see replies you may have to wait bit. I think TH-cam is dong a check in the comment section or something not sure. morally question is back feel free to read that if you want while I reply to the question above the best can :)
@@abdulrahmanabouarkoub7792 Thank you a lot. :) I hope I will be able to read some of it, I also acknowledged that they suddenly disappear and occur.
Hell is required the moment God decides to give humans free will, and the logical reason why you do good deeds is because you do not want to go to Hell.
Why would torture in Hell be required? Even with human power, you can change one's mind enormously without any torture needed. And as for retaliation as a means of justice, how does retaliation help the ones wronged by a sinner? If they are given infinite wellbeing in paradise, retaliation would not add any value. I wonder why you need Hell?
@@minarar.2042 A sin to god is forgiveable by repentance. A sin to other human requires their forgiveness. If someone wronged you so badly, which I mean really really bad and inhumane, to a level where even paradise cannot heal your grudge, maybe hell is the only choice.
Yes some people can change. Some people might never could. People like Abu Lahab or the pharaoh, for example.
@@LittleRedRidingHoo You say maybe, so there is possibility. We don't know yet. But if paradise offers infinite wellbeing, transcending anything earthly, by definition it should be able to compensate for all earthly suffering. And maybe it is like this. There are people who have been betrayed and enormously harmed by others, yet they are able to heal again and forgive. If that forgiveness is possible already on earth for some of the most cruel deeds without torturing the wrongdoer, why shouldn't it be possible for Allah?
@@minarar.2042 Some evil deeds can be so worse that one might just will not forgive even with heaven as an exchange. Maybe you've never experienced one but I hope you never will.
@@LittleRedRidingHoo I wish for no-one to experience such deeds. Neither do I wish for anyone to suffer in Hell.
No matter what you do this question wont have any convincing answer
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It is not the eyes that is blind but the hearts
@@missisto3908 if it wasnt fear of hell punishment you would have been the first one to question allah scheme
@@Solo.Gr8 even if there was no hell , I would still worship the one Allah who deserves my worship ..May Allah guide you .
@@missisto3908 in that case will you worship allah without want to going to his heaven?
are you that sincere?
If yes please take an oath
I do not mean to upset anyone but I find the concept of Allah knowing what everyone is going to do and everything that is going to happen very confusing because in a way as soon as you are created Allah will know if you are going to do things that will send you to hell, although one can change their path, this would be already known before you are created, so in a way Allah creates people knowing they will go to hell and does know any warnings are meaningless. I am sorry if this does not make sense I am very bad at portraying my ideas. I am very confused and frightened.
" Do not lose hope in Allah's mercy," - La taqnatu min rahmatillah - Surah Zumar, verse 53
please translate to urdu thank you