HEROES Ep5 - THE DRUMMERS Of STEVE COLEMAN & FIVE ELEMENTS - My Most Influential Drummers
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ม.ค. 2025
- In this 5th episode of HEROES I introduce you to three drummers that have made a huge impact on my playing. Marvin 'Smitty' Smith, Gene Lake and Sean 'The Rick' Rickman. SUBSCRIBE TO THE CHANNEL for more great lessons!
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Thanks Rob! Actually I started with Steve in 1996 - '02. Then I joined and produced two albums for Andy Milne's Dapp Theory '02 - '07. Then rejoined Steve in 2012 - present. Please visit thericklessons.com/ therickrocks.com/
Sean Rickman teaches you how to count. There will never be another drummer like him.
Was totally into M-Base since the first albums. Mark Johnson is an amazing drummer too. World Expansion has to be a favourite album
That opening blew my mind. Have always been a huge fan of all of Coleman's beastly drummers. Smitty, The Rick, and Mr. Lake, in particular. Each of the above elevated Steve's music in their own special fashion.
How interesting. You're Rich Brown's brother! That explains some things. You're as uncannily smooth on the drums as your brother is on the bass. Loved your brother's bass playing for years with Andy Milne! I've lived in the DC area for a several decades now and have known Mr. Rickman for years as well. As long as I've been here he's been a local musical celebrity and it's great that the wider world got to appreciate his talent and dedication to the art of music, not only with Steve but also Meshell N'degeocello, Shawn lane and others. He's also a great composer, songwriter, guitarist and bass player. Most all of us who are drummers in this area admire him greatly as a musician.
Yeah, M'Base! What can you say except that under the driving force of Steve Coleman a truly strong and amazing sub-genre was created. Also notably connected to the M-Base camp through Andy Milne is drummer Mark Prince who is actually the drummer on Andy's first 2 releases and is truly in a league of his own (check out Andy Milne's Cosmic Dapp Theory - The New Age of Aquarius).
Big ups for widening musical awareness.
Black science was mine album to step to jazz world. Marvin is in another planet.. also steve. Steve coleman was kind enough to shre with us after concert..they are very important people.
Steve is actually from Chicago and the M-Base crowd began working together in NYC, but everything else you said is pretty spot on.
Rob!!!
Great post......just a quick note for clarity...
The Dapp Theory album, Y’all Just Don’t Know, actually featured 2 drummers, Sean Rickman and Yours Truly. Mark Prince played drums on the 3 tracks on the album that featured Bruce Cockburn on Lead Vocals.
There aren’t any liner notes on iTunes or Apple Music, so it’s easy to miss.
I also had the pleasure of playing and recording with Andy Milne for 6 years between ‘95-‘01, playing music steeped in the same tradition, philosophy as a lot of the Five Elements material.
Andy’s first two albums are really worth checking out as well:
Forward to Get Back (1997) and
New Age of Aquarius (1999)
Keep up the great work, Bro.
Mark Prince
Good lord, Mark. I done dropped the ball too many time in this video, man 😩 I was super slackin on the research here. So sorry to have missed that important information. I feel horrible now! I don’t have the physical CD anymore so I didn’t remember that before I mentioned that record. Don’t think you haven’t been a massive influence in my development either, brutha ❤️
The respect and love you show for music and musicians is beautiful Rob. You get me hyped for music i never thought i could enjoy because it was pretty far from where i come from musically. I think i just realized YOU have become one of my Heroes not just through your amazing playing but also your way of looking at music.
Thank you for all the inspiration and wisdom!
I first heard Marvin Smitty Smith with Dave Holland. Steve Coleman was in that band as well, with Kenny Wheeler on trumpet. Great show.
Thanks Rob. I stumbled on Sean a couple of months ago on TH-cam and you are spot on! I can't get enough of this guy. Badassest!
Great video. Always great to come across videos on Steve Coleman and especially so when the feature is on drummers like Sean Rickman Smitty Smith and Gene Lake. Sorry that you didn't feature Dafnis Prieto, Marcus Gilmore and Tyshawn Sorey who played some amazing stuff equal to anything played by the three drummers featured after Sean Rick man left Five Elements. Also missing is the original Five Elements drummer Mark Johnson. Steve Coleman is from Chicago.
And I played with all of the drummers mentioned. 😉
John Coltrane writing music in algebra class while listening to Funk...! Cool defenition Rob! Love your channel!
Tim, Antwerp - Belgium
heya, by far the coolest groove drumming from gene with coleman (for me), is with the rappers live in paris 1995 / the way of the cipher. the drum sound from that gig surpasses the albums for my taste.
Steve Coleman is from Chicago!! I like your video. I had the similar experience.
Yes Black Science!! Drop Kick and Steve Coleman and The Five Elements The Tao of Mad Phat ❤All time favs
Great work Rob! Steve is from
Chicago originally but lives in South PA...
Yea, man. -3 points for me for not properly researching that part 😒 Thanks for watchin, man 🙂
Thanks for sharing some of your background Rob! Very cool history!
Sean is interesting in that he plays with traditional grip but with 3 fingers under the Stick,, I’ve only seen one other guy play that way- -- Stewart Copeland.---
Sean Rickman is also well known for his work with Shawn Lane
Sean played with Shawn Lane too!
Love this series! It’d be a great add to have a list of the albums in each video somewhere...
Thanks for this
10 new M-Base lesson videos & ALL time signatures thericklessons.com/
The Rick on vox, guitar, bass & drums therickrocks.com/
Thanks EVERYONE!
Thanks for the album recommendations Rob! :)
Allister Naidoo Dive right in, man. Heavy stuff!
Man that was one the greatest grooves I've heard. I noticed you've brought the floor tom out from the corner started using it recently, sounds great as usual. Also how are your Carlock sticks holding up. Keep up the great jams.
Btw, did you ever figure out "The X Format" from Black Science? I had Smitty explain it to me a couple of times and I STILL don't get it!
M-Base!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hey,,,, I totally agree with your choices!! I put Gene at the very top of this list,,, -- however,,, I think you need to start listening to Chris Daddy Dave.... I'm sure you already do but he's moving me these days----
TRUST me, man. I know all about Daddy Dave 🔥
That I figured! Check out Roger Biwandu tube I sent you--- summertime in 7/8
Tommy Campbell too
Wow! I forgot about Tommy doing the gigs in London! There's TH-cam video of the TV show!
Rob, thank you so much for this information - BTW, I’m one of those who have never heard of Shawn Rickman...wow, what an oversight!! Question: how would you recommend first approaching odd time playing? Is listening to the albums you’ve recommended and just sitting down behind the kit and diving in a good first step? My odd time playing sucks and I want to get better at figuring it out! Thanks.
Yea, man. Trying to decipher Steve’s music without at least a basic understanding of odd time will be difficult. Like being a tourist dropped in the middle of a foreign city. I’ll do some tutorials on odd time soon. It starts with getting comfortable counting and playing in 5, 7 and 9.
Rob Brown got it. Looking forward to the lesson.
Whoops, I meant Sean (not Shawn)!