Pokémon Gold Silver and Crystal (Nintendo GameBoy Color) - Retro Game Review - Tamashii Hiroka
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- Today Tamashii reviews Pokémon Gold Silver and Crystal for the Nintendo GameBoy Color, games that recently the general public have turned on. Are these Pokemon games as good as we remember or are we blinded by nostalgia? How do they stack up when compared to modern games like Pokemon Sun and Moon?
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One thing you didn’t mention that I also love is the thematics. Johto is much more traditional in its construction than the more urban Kanto. The game communicates the idea of progression and evolution of time so well. This is especially paid off when you then get to Kanto later and you see all the ways it has changed since Gen 1. Even though you’re still playing a Pokémon game time has continued on and the world you knew before isn’t the same. The changes made in Kanto especially reflect this because they cover the Pokémon Tower being replaced with a radio tower and Copycat’s house being torn down for the Magnet Train. Gen 2 feels like a genuine commentary on our increasingly global and technologically capable world, musing on what changes in the process. It’s quite compelling!
Plus you get to see the dangers of having lived on a volcano island. The owner of the Safari Zone closing up shop, the fate of the Viridian Gym. So many things in Kanto that change for us.
@Jackson VanHaitsma
: This. So much this. World Building. That is what this game accomplished. Gen 1 created a world but Gen 2 breathed life into it. Such a simple thing as a "Before/After" gives you the sensation that the world is changing. And while the internal clock could be considered a gimmick, they made the most of it. Day/Night cycles, daily and weekly events, everything was made surrounding the clock mechanic and that further feeded the idea that the world was alive. Time played an important part on gen 2.
Where have you been tamashi hiroka good to see you back again I miss your videos
Indeed. I only really came to realize how cool it was by looking at the tcg card arts
You're so very incredibly beautiful looking too tamashi hiroka could you get anymore beautifuler like seriously
Awesome to see a new vid from you! =)
PBG here? NICE!
Hi PBG.
Damn, PBG thirsty
PBG I thought you hated pokemon
RIGMAC Ruiz Or, this married man is just a fan of her stuff and a decent person with no ulterior motives outside of his appreciation for quality content.
This was wonderfully in-depth. I loved how you tackled the subject in multiple angles, showing Gen 2 in various lights, rather than one centered opinion
Didn't expect to find Creeps on here but cool nonetheless
Creeps!!!
Damn all my favorite TH-camrs on here
You should do a creepypasta on Pokémon!
Wow
I always LOVED the optional legendary idea. Exploring and stumbling upon a rare Pokemon was always so exciting. You could see Lugia on the box, so you know it's in there somewhere, but having to figure out how to encounter it was the best part.
As a fun fact, the reason they put Kanto into Gen 2 was because they went to Satoru Iwata because they couldn't get all of Johto onto the cartridge, and he came up with a new compression system that there was so much space left over they could fit all of Kanto in there as bonus stuff, so they didn't actually sacrifice anything to get it in there.
then why where chunks of kanto removed
Not everything could fit in? Miraculous compression tools or not you can't always put in everything. That and potential glitches
@@ferroth They didn't sacrifice anything in Johto. Kanto was extra, but even better compression has it's limits, which is why Kanto sucks in GSC
@@starmangalaxy2001 I guess that makes sense
Kanto was intended to be in Gen 2 but much much smaller as well as Kensai (the region Johto is based on) as just 2 towns. It suppose to be about all of Japan but they changed their mind to focus on just to regions.
you must be the halley’s comet of youtube because your videos are out of this world and come once every 76 years.
This comment deserves a standing ovation
Calm down killer
A Tamashii Video is the best birthday present ever
Happy Birthday
happy birthday!!
Happy birthday!
Congratz!
Love this review! This was my all time favorite game, I got every TM and maxed the Pokedex after 300 hours and a couple trades with some friends' shifty cartridges 😂
Logdotzip??? NANI
Seeing random big channels in this comment section is kinda bizarre.
Wow logdotzip watches Tama!
When I was a kid and played through it. I remember loving being able to re battle trainers and how they'd call you! It was magical to me
She’s back!
And covering the gen 2!!
We are living in the blessed timeline. :)
I literally teared up a few times remembering my playing everyday to do all of the events. Even now, I played again as an almost 30 year old, and still smiled at every moment. This generation has a corner of my heart for as long as I live.
A corner of your heart and a piece of your soul.
Not gonna lie, I damn near cried at the "end" screen.
*She protec*
*She attack*
But most importantly...
*SHE BACK!!*
attacc*
@@charmanderfan1 i ment Attac lol
*bacc
Protecc*
UmbreonErick lmao
9:47 Black and White did this too. In fact Surf in BW only served to open up optional areas in previous locations, you never needed it for story progression. There are several whole water-accessible routes you never need to go to, located right next to the hometown.
Funny thing is, the way you talk about Pokemon doing a bad job of teaching the player its complex battle system is pretty much EXACTLY the issue with another game that I've seen brought up a lot: Kingdom Hearts 2. And I do mean EXACTLY. I only found out that KH2 has a complex, deep and rewarding battle system when I watched speedruns over a decade after I played it. And that's because the game never REQUIRES you to learn its battle system to win. Most reviews called it a mindless "mash X and occasionally triangle to win" game, and most casual players saw it that way too. And just like Red, KH2 throws an optional postgame boss at you (Sephiroth, and in the remake Lingering Will and the Data Organization) that will kick casual players' butts and force them to grind because it's the ONE fight in the game that DOES require you to have mastered the battle system. I never beat Sephiroth as a kid because the game never taught me how to use all the tools I'd need to win that fight.
As much as I generally dislike X and Y, I will say they actually do kind of go out of their way to address this. Basic trainers have pretty smart moves, e.g. Black Belts with Poison Jab for Fairies, and a Kingdra with Flash Cannon, also for Fairies, and some even pack Egg Moves.
..........BUT MOST PLAYERS WILL NEVER KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'LL BE 20 LEVELS HIGHER THANKS TO THE EXP SHARE AND WILL JUST ONESHOT EVERYTHING!!!!!! (Sorry. I got carried away there. I just really don't like how XY's Exp Share means so few people know how good those games' basic trainers are. Every time I try to point this out, I get "duuuur you think XY is hard you're a filthy casual". No Exp Share Nuzlockes of XY tend to have the highest body-counts of any generation, from what I've seen.)
Yeah, I think the option to give Exp. to the entire Pokémon team should be a endgame thing. I even find it funny how many trainers of ORAS where ignored by basically everyone because how broken the secret bases are. Why expend so much time traveling the entire Hoenn region when you can defeat a bunch of level 100 Blissey?
@@nidohime6233 i dissagree i not only like exp share its on the beginning i think it should be before first gym. The role of the exp share in this game is not to be used on only 6 pokemon through the whole game but to catch and train all met pokemon. This is why the first route and forest has so.many different pokemon in previous games you get at least 3 times les pokemon.
I also think they should include an iv judge in your home town so you can always check the ivs of pokemon you have cough. Because hes in the post game i had to buy second ds and multiple version of games so i can use the judge nearly straight away.
@@wildresin6292 The IV Judge at the start fine, but the issue with the exp share is not how early they give to you but how broken it is in the whole playthrough. Most ended with overlevel team because the amount of exp they get is to high, not only from battles but also now from catching Pokémon. Also many people prefer to have a team made of Pokémon they want or like, leaving training and raising Pokémon after they defeated the League, and the fact that many recurring trainers like the 4 kids of XY have weak Pokémon on purpose don't help either. Do you know one of them haves a Roselia (or Lilligant, I don't remember) who only knows Petal Dance? It makes the games to easy and boring.
@@nidohime6233 well the games are meant to be played differently. To train high number of pokemon at the same time and to have lots if optional pokemon for each gym. It is game shaped by old motto to "catch em all and to be the best that ever was" all in the name of variety and appreciation for all pokemon and to discover other that we dont use so much.
About them four kids theyre not meant to be rivals or to challange as their purpose is to support us not to gives us a challange. Once you accept them truths the game looks way better as the whole game is all about you. Its not gamefreaks fault that most of people are lazy and obsolete in their choices of pokemon. For the same reason i despise hm slavery as hms are meant to be used not only outside of battle but as a integral part of our team. Thats why we have things like stab and technician ability to make for the lack of power in some of them.
@@wildresin6292 Funny enough you are not the only one who hate HM slaves, everyone does! The reason they have it is because nobody wants to put weak and annoying moves in their "real" team. Surf and Fly? Those are fine, but Cut? Rock Smash? Flash? Even Defog? And we didn't even started with the water type HM. Nobody wants to put so many in the same Pokémon to the point they don't have a good type coverage. Also it doesn't help that means you should remove someone of your team everytime you want to go somewhere. No wonder Hoenn and (specially) Sinnoh where the most annoying to travel, that's why many love the idea of Pokerides, because that mean they could have their favourites in their team.
Besides, many prefer to train just a few not just from lazyness but because they get attached with their Pokémon. They want to battle with them everytime.
Also what about who already caught everything? To me, someone who already got every Pokémon except for a few mythical ones is kinda pointless to catch more of the same thing. Like, I already got the full Pidgey line in the Pokébank, what's the point of getting another one?
And last, those four kids where officialy rivals, if at least they have something interesting to say o do apart of battling they could be more bearable. But because they just follow you and say how great you are...
Wow. Just wow. Everything about this was wonderful. The script, it’s presentation. The energy throughout was fun. It was a bit drawn out at times, but overall, this video was wonderful.
It’s refreshing to see a video as honest as yours. Glad to see this.
Also, hope you’re doing well. I’ve been a fan of your channel for a while and I kinda fell off the planet. Catching up and rewatching some of your older content. Seems like you’ve been through a lot and doing better. Wish you a good one and continue to do what you love!
I don't understand people who complain about Chikorita.
"It's weak against Falkner!"
Geodude is right outside of Route 46.
"It's weak against Bugsy!"
Pidgey and Hoothoot are all over the place. Butterfree and Beedrill are also not hard to get.
You're not supposed to just use ONE Pokemon for the whole game. Chikorita might not be a star player but it has good utility and I got plenty of use out of it in my game.
Don't use a Geodude against Falkner. His Pokémon have Mud Slap, remember?
Chikorita was soooooo cool in the anime lmfao I don't understand why didn't people just use their favourite pokemon like the devs kinda intended.
I love Chikorita and it's whole evolution line.
@@RokuroCarisu Mud slap is a weak move and ground only dealt physical damage back then. Geodude has enough defense to counter it.
Personally I don't like Chikorita or Meganium. Bayleef is cool and it's the only part of the line I really like.
22:58 As someone that picked Chikorita in Gold Version I can confirm that not being able to beat Red is nothing but BS. Red is definitely beatable regardless of which starter you pick.
Meganium has its pros and cons just like any other starter, but a lot of people don't really understand quite how to use it. It works way better as bulky support in concert with other pokemon. Meganium works really well with Synthesis, Solarbeam and two support moves like Reflect, Light Screen, Protect or Toxic. If you have another mon with sunny day, it can come out and become and immortal sweeper. I think people just use it wrong and have the wrong expectations as to what you can do with it.
My favorite Pokemon Game is Pokemon Crystal.
I never played the gen 2 games. But I did enjoy HeartGold and SoulSilver
Good for you, I guess?
same the sprites are awesome
@@YustinJ420 Salt
My first ever Pokemon game was Pokemon Crystal
Watching this in the hospital at 3am because there's too much beeping to sleep. Thanks Tamashii
I'll always have a soft spot for this game, mainly because of that one time I caught Raikou when he was at full health with just a Pokeball. Still one of my favorite gaming moments.
“Does Not Support Thoughtless Unplanned Team Building Style”
Kid Me: Only TYPHLOSION
Lilliana Reichard actually it supports thoughtless unplanned team building style EVEN MORE than planning bcuz if u try to use 4+ mons there’s not enough EXP to grind them enough, but if you over level 1 or 2 mons it’s easier to plow through the elite four. It’s easier to use only one mon in this game, not harder
Typhlosion with Earthquake, Flamethrower, Thunderpunch and Strenght for the win
Same, except it was Meganium, which as you might expect, made the Johto gyms terrible.
I had never thought I missed your videos as much as I did when I saw this video on my feed. I instantly clicked!!! Welcome back queen!
_It's like the opposite of when Gamefreak revisits their old work_
*AIRHORNS*
Squirt4757 it’s ironic that Heartgold and Soulsilver were the one remake that really felt like a love letter to the originals.
@@Fantallana They were, and still are, awesome.
Yeah, they've been Dobbin' it lately...
Joseph McDonagh No, they’re garbage.
@@Anti-HyperLink The problem with FRLG is how much these games hold your hand. These games arent love letters to classics, they were released at a time when people thought Pokemon games are too complicated and FRLG were meant to be a start for new players who never played a Pokemon game before. FRLG are great at that. If I wanted to introduce a 6 year old to Pokemon I would give them FRLG.
HGSS are really for people who grew up with the originals. They dont hold your hand any more than the originals and recreate the experience in a great way. For Players who have been playing Pokemon for a long time HGSS are a nostalgia trip. Also these games have one of the most asked for feature in any Pokemon game: having your favourite Pokemon follow you in the overworld and not just sit in your inventory.
If you prefer FRLG thats totally fine. If you dont mind all the tutorial stuff these games are a great graphical update for the first generation games which will stay classics in the hall of fame of games forever.
TL;DR: HGSS and FRLG have different target audiences. Both are great games, but HGSS are a bit better for experienced players, the kind of player you will more likely find in this comment section.
The sheer boost in confidence from your first review of gen2 to this one is a joy to see.
I'm 9 minutes in and so far, this is one of the most well thought out retrospectives of Pokemon I have ever seen. I'm impressed.
I WAS JUST REWATCHING YOUR DP REVIEW. WELCOME BACK QUEEN
Imagine a modern Pokemon game making you pick up an invisible train part in a gym you've already been in
I was stuck at that part for 2 years as a kid. ;-;
-"Are you saying I'm playing it wrong if I don't like it?"
-"Correct"
Haha that made the whole video.
was she joking when she said that?
@@murpuhbuh1196 Nope, it's 100% true.
It's rare that I'll watch a 34 minute video from start to finish on a youtube channel that I've never seen before, but you managed to keep me interested the whole 34 minutes and for that I subscribe. Looks like you just came back recently too so I look forward to whatever else you produce in the near future. :)
P.S. Gold, Silver, and Crystal was by far my favourite gen of Pokemon
I’m proud to say that I own HeartGold & SoulSilver.
Same as and complete versions with pokewalker can cost quite a bit
I want it so bad :(
I'm proud to say I played Silver version on my GBC at the ripe old age of 11. Pokemon hasn't had the same magic ever sense...
As an Espeon fan from Madrid, I very much approve of your naming choices.
Madrid ????
Edit:Oh I saw the rest of the video I'm from Madrid too
Tamashii only shows up once in a blue moon these days, but it’s always exciting to see a new video from her.
YESSSS I've been waiting for this video! :D So excited!
SCf3 hi Ali!:)
Feels like 2014 again
I return to this video for different reasons. Sometimes it's to remind me of the major perspective expansion I got from my first viewing, and other times to be inspired to be more thoughtful about my pokemon playthroughs in Gen 2 and otherwise. Playing a game against its strengths cheapens your experience and takeaway from it, and building your own fun through the opportunities it creates is such a valuable lesson.
Seriously, this is one of the most important videos I've watched of my nearly 2 decades viewing this website. Pokémon fans really can be magic.
Jeez what's with this new Tamashii and why is she spitting fire like a Heatmor?
MrScraftineer Tamashii needs to be on shofu’s next pokemon cypher
I love it so much
MrScraftineer I know :d
You managed to articulate what I love about Gen 2 in a way I didn’t even know myself. You’re so right, the immersion is genuine. When I was a kid I felt like I was actually in the Pokémon world. I would listen to the radio for Oak’s show and spend hours giving my Pokémon vitamins and haircuts to make them love me more. There are still aspects of the new games that emulate this experience but Gen 2 is still the peak, and being able to find unique ways to face the challenges it presents is always a great time.
At first I was a bit conflicted that this review wasn't very traditional (As in, you didn't go through the aspects of the game, like Pokemon, characters, story, region, etc.) but rather focused on the aspect you thought made these games unique, but honestly, it was very fresh, somehow nostalgic, and eye opening. But it did confirm my "bias" that Pokemon really is extremely dynamic and everybody has a completely different reason for playing. For example, I play Pokemon for the Pokemon themselves, the way they are integrated into the world and the bonds I form with my team, and even the characters. Gen 7 simply seemed to do that for me more than any other gen. All the Pokemon had some sort of lore, you encounter them in the over world in appealing and immersive ways (like Totem Pokemon) and USUM were without a doubt the most difficult Pokemon games I've ever played (in terms of straight up battling) so when my Pokemon defeated a totem or Ultra Necrozma, it felt satisfying af.
On the other hand, the fact that in Johto, most of the Pokemon are from Kanto and the team building isn't very dynamic AND a good amount of new Pokemon are only accessible during the post game isn't very appealing to me. Kids simply wouldn't play a Pokemon game like Gold and Silver where the gratification isn't instant, and why would they when all the other games are available... for free? Even I can't rack up 300 hours on a Pokemon game in my adult life. I wish I could, but I can't. I definitely don't think tutorials and hand-holding is the way to go, but it just doesn't impede my experience cause the reason I've played Pokemon for so long, the Pokemon, has never gone away. Like you said, we westerners weren't introduced to Pokemon through the RPG aspects, but rather the Anime. I loved the Pokemon I saw, so being the trainer I've always wanted to be was why I played. Not the over world obstacles. I wanted the RPG elements, which are still present in the game. Not the JRPG elements. (although I'm not apposed to them, just explaining why I'm still a fan of the newest Gen) I'm still connecting with my team. Still role playing. Even in Let's Go Pikachu. While it's far from my favorite Pokemon game, I actually bonded with my Pokemon in that game, more than any other. I'm very optimistic when it comes to Gen 8.
I clapped when i read this.
@@faisalkabirtaj3297 Shut Up Truegreen! She's taken! 😘
It's strange how opinions differ when it comes to the Pokémon games. The JRPG aspects are exactly what I like most about Gen 2 and until this day I haven't invested as much time into any Pokémon title than I have in Crystal. I really hope that when Let's Go 2 comes around (we all know it will), that it does stay true to some of these aspects which made Gen 2 what it is.
Also surprised that you found gen 7 to be the hardest of all. Personally I had more problems with 4 and 5 (Ghetsis after N), though this could be that I unknowingly built up a team in Gen 7 which turned out to be a nearly perfect counter to the Ultra Necrozma encounter.
I do wish that the handholding is minimised again and also that cutscenes won't be quite as long as they were in SM/USUM, but even if that won't be the case in Gen 8 I am still confident that I will enjoy it, because I honestly have never not enjoyed a Pokémon Gen... though Gen 6 was really meh imo.
I'll have to disagree about kids not liking Gold and Silver. When I was a kid playing this game, the first playthrough was all about beating the gyms and elite four. Then, as I replayed, I got more into bug catching, legendary searching, and finding the nooks and crannies.
Difficulty was also there. The dragon gym was hella hard, since the dragons could beat any ice types you had, and since training dragons was so difficult. The puzzles were good, the second gym was also hard, and levelling up for the elite four was definitely hard. The postgame was fine with me. I don't see why it is bad to have new Pokemon in the postgame. Catching all the Pokemon should be optional, anyways.
@@gomer2813
Also, kids in my school LOVED GSC. It was such a big step up graphically from RBGY that we finally saw the designs of the pokemon from the show being adequately rendered on the GBA.
"Polished"
*laughs in PC cloning glitch*
But seriously, cloning the Master Ball was helpful for those blasted roaming dogs. 😂
When I saw the duration of this video I said Wow! But, honestly, I could talk hours about this generation. Johto is my favorite region in the pokemon world. Pokemon gold/silver was my gift for my 11th birthday. Colors, the history, beautiful sprites, 2 regions in 1 game, Game Freak really made a fantastic job. Thanks for the video 💕
You have evolved too, unlike a lot of TH-camr reviewers that just press B. Great review. Very well thought out and you brought out a lot of great points. Didn't realize that Colosseum 2 would have been part of the core Gen 2 experience. Makes me kind a wanna find a copy of it and and reset my cart of Gold with that game in mind.
i love that first sentence so much, kudos to you
As someone who has watched your videos for 8 years, I’m so excited to see you continue to create the content you love!
I was still Playing Yellow Version when Gold and Silver Came out. However, when Crystal rolled around. I got it that day with money I earned by Mowing lawns.
It was worth it. It was better than expected. I even skipped school one day, just to play it!
My only gripe with Crystal? NO MAREEP!!! Ugh...
Anyways... Thank you for this amazing video. Subscribed!
I love you!!
That’s funny given I was born in 2001
Edit: how was there no mareep?
when I herd that mereep wasn't in I chose gold, it was cheeper and easier to find any way
I beat red as a sixth grader without every having to grind, and I'm also terrible at Pokemon in general. Never understood why that fight is so hated, honestly beating red with that amazing music and incredible atmosphere is one of my fondest gaming memories.
Generation II will always be my favorite. My favorite thing was the inclusion of Kanto. Kid Me thought "whoa, that's awesome!" But after replaying it now at age 27, it gave me a bittersweet feeling. This is gonna sound corny, but the fact that the "new" Kanto wasn't fully there like "old" Kanto (i.e. The Pewter City Museum gone, Safari Zone shut down, Cinnabar Island destroyed, Pokemon Tower now a Radio Tower, Veridian Forest reduced to bushes, etc.) was a somewhat somber reminder that things change and nothing lasts forever. Bitter at the thought.... but I find it sweet that a Pokemon game can induce such a feeling lol
I know exactly what you mean! After beating Red, I played Crystal way back when I was a kid and instead of feeling upset about all the changes I reacted the same way I would towards changes in real life. That’s how real these games felt to me! I treated them the same as the changes happening to locations in real life.
The fact that Kanto itself exists is amazing (shoutout to Mr. Iwata, you'll always be the very best like no one ever was), but yeah...it was Kanto but not "the Kanto". I never played the remakes so I don't know how much "the Kanto" is in that Kanto, but I think they could make a proper two-regions game now. After so much time ignoring Johto (I'm still bitter over my lack of Mega Typhlosion and MegaMeganium), that's the ending it deserves.
Play Crystal Clear, it restores Kanto
This was my favorite GSC review! You completely understand the magic of this game. I put so many hours into simply exploring forests, walking through and enjoying the towns, hunting for rare Pokémon, etc.
Gold is special to me ❤️
I remember playing Heartgold not too long ago, and yeah, it was the remake, but what I'm about to talk about could also happen in the original Gen 2 games.
I had just beat Bugsy and was ready to move on to Goldenrod. But then, I got a call from that Bug Catcher who gives you Berries. Also, Togepi hatched shortly after that, so I was like "oh, whatever, let's get those berries and show the Prof the baby." So backtracked all the way back to New Bark, got the Berries on the way, and even found one of the weekday siblings. I remember doing all that, and then stopping to think "huh. this feels familiar." And no, it didn't remind me of the original games. You know what it reminded me of?
Breath of The Wild.
Yeah, obviously it was on a much, much smaller scale, but...I had a clear goal (getting to Goldenrod), but then I was given a secondary goal (getting the Berries) which required me to go the completely opposite way, and then I got _another_ secondary goal (showing the Prof the Togepi), which required me to backtrack _even more_ and on that way, I found another quick side thing to do. And it just reminded me of playing Breath of the Wild, setting a primary goal, like doing a story quest, but then getting distracted from that goal by something like a tower, then getting distracted from _that_ by a shrine, then on the way to that shrine finding a chest or Korok seed...
Really, it's the Johot games that make me think that Pokémon would not be that hard to make into an open world game. In fact, someone already did that. Look up "Pokémon Crystal Clear", a romhack that removes all the plot barriers like Sudowoodo and anything you need HMs for, lets you visit any place in both Johto and Kanto from the start (even restoring and adding some areas), and even allows you to challenge gym leaders in any order, since the strength of the trainers scales with the number of badges you have. And I think the fact that they chose the definitive Gen 2 for that was deliberate. As you said, Tamashii, the games give you interesting and fun things to do and discover almost everywhere. Honestly, if they don't go the Open World route for Pokémon Switch, I just hope they take more of an inspiration from Gen 2...
I mean it makes sense that back when Pokemon was more rpg like, it would have similar situations occur to in an open world rpg. I too would like a return to the style of play of the earlier gen's, with thing to find and places to discover. Such as lapras appear in a cave on a friday. The return of day of the week event would be cool, as would the return of seasonal effects in gen 5 which allowed you to access new area in certain seasons (obviously you couldn't block part of the main story behind seasons if they only change once a month.
This is a great comment. Wish the games had turned out more like gen 2.
You mentioned the internal clock playing a role but never had to emphasize how Gen 2 introduced new mechanics that are integral to competitive play to this day, such as hold items and gender/breeding. The games introduced new Types, Shinies, rebattles, and made some quality of life changes like the bag and PC improvements, move deleter, select shortcuts. It's a huge leap from Gen 1 even if it visually doesn't look so. It's part of why I love this Gen's games and their remakes. You managed to tell a new perspective on Gen 2 I never thought of before and I appreciate that.
omg you look fantastic
omg thanks lol
Lol a wild Ricky
Nut
the thirst is real
@@ninnghhizziddha Who would win, one thristy boi vs 1000 marines?
I liked how when she censored her cussing, unown appears over her mouth and it reads what she said
I remember when I was young and I would have sleepovers with some friends we would stay up all night with our gameboys in the Ruins of Alph. We would spend hours finding secrets, solving puzzles and coming up with theories about the Unown and how they were "legendary pokemon". *(gotta point out this is a testament to how fun this game is without even going along with the story all the time)*.
The Internet and computers, in general, were very rare and only a handful of my friends had a computer at home (including me). My dad would often let us play around with his PC and thought us about the internet, after searching on the internet with my friends we came across the "King Unown" myth and as the internet was very limited we just took it without questioning it... the rest is just us walking around the ruins of alph for years until we found out it was fake and all our """"""research"""""" was suddenly poinless... i love this game anyways!
Or turning the radio on in the ruins. Creepy shit
Tamashii uploaded a video?
I've never closed the bible so fast
This is the bible
Red Thunder this the funniest thing Ive read 😂😂😂💯
Tamashii is one of the few TH-camrs permissible for my Christian eyes.
I'm deployed overseas and this made my day 😭 so happy to see you another video from you again
@Miguel tvid The US military is completely voluntary, buddy. No one now in the modern US military is forced against their will to raise their right hand and sign the dotted line. Join the military and find out for yourself, buddy. Have a good day
@Miguel tvid I get some units are complete craps like how my last one was. I get it's tough to make a career out of it because of the factors. Unit, MOS, but mainly the leadership. But thank you for your service I do appreciate it
Miguel tvid You didn’t happen to go OSUT at Benning around 2016 did you?
@@joshuabrewer5397 Unfortunately, no 😅 Relaxin' Jackson 2017
Wow. The amount of love in this video is insane. As someone who doesn’t find long RPGs appealing, this makes me want to try this game.
Everything in this video was masterfully created and elaborated on to a point where there’s so much content here, that I feel like I should have been taking notes!
I wish there was an abridged version of this video called “How to play Generation 2 Pokémon” since this video has so much advice to follow, that I’d never remember it all.
Well said, I don't think I could word it better, myself.
Just started playing silver on my bright green game boy color I got for Xmas 20yrs ago and this game feels perfect! I love that it keeps the day and time while you play, it feels like your in the world. Thanks for the video and the history it’s great.
Wow, I completely agree with this video, as I played the remakes like this and it felt so much more rewarding than a lot of people tend to describe the experience. Heck, I loved running around so much that I still haven't beaten it and I have over 400+ hours. It's really nice to see appreciation for these games in this way
Exactly! These were the games that REALLY got me into Pokémon because of how much effort and time you had to put into it. I remember I had a friend who had Silver and I had Gold. We would see each other in school and see how much we had advanced since you had to do it little by little to actually enjoy it. Like you said, like a MMO.
man as someone who started with gen 3 this video was really enlightening and made me appreciate the older games way more, thanks tamashii!
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Like legit that sinnoh review immortalized ur content for me
Might also be worth pointing something out. The team was inspired by Dragon Quest (specifically 3) and if anyone has played the whole trilogy, you know what you get to experience? Playing through DQ 3 gives you a nice new map full of stuff to explore, with an act 2 consisting of the world from DQ 1, but it's watered down compared to playing through that same world of DQ 1.
I'm not sure if both regions were planned from the start. Them having issues fitting all of Johto seems like they weren't, even though I think the Poke Wiki claims G/S were meant to be the final games, so Kanto was indeed planned from the beginning. The compression vs initial planning feel like they contradict one another. I just thought it was interesting to see the parallel with DQ 3 since they were so inspired by it in the first place.
Also, with all the stuff I've seen/read about Gen 2 over the last x amount of years, you're the only person I've ever seen to mention that Stadium 2 was meant to be post game content. I trust you're right, given the amount of research you put into this. For me, this illustrates how much GameFreak loved their IP and the potential they used to see in it.
I just watched your Ruby & Sapphire review and just had to watch this review again. Your videos are so great and informative; it's just alway a joy to watch them.
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Crystal means so much to me for a variety of reasons, and for years it was my favorite Pokémon game, only till HG/SS came out duh.
What a pleasant video to watch and remember all the good memories I had with the game. I re-bought it recently (despite owning SS) and it's one of the best nostalgia trips I could ever have :D
I actually never realized how important Stadium 2 was for the experience. Makes me wanna go do some funky emulation stuff and try the whole experience as an adult now.
THIS! Replaying Gold, while actually understanding the game is one of the best things I've ever done..
HeartGold & SoulSilver surpass the original Gold, Silver & Crystal by miles remakes are always better.
Adam Dawson nope, esmerald is better than omega ruby and alpha sapphire.
Nostalgia..
But...but Mareep...
I’m so glad you created another really in depth review of a Pokémon game. Your analysis is well thought out and researched, and while there is a bit of bias, it never takes away from the points you make. Great job! :)
Fun fact, quicker way to get to the Indigo league, go to New Bark Town, surf a little to right, and fly from there! Much quicker than taking the train.(especially if you're grinding, that is where you spawn, so you just gotta surf to the right and fly from there! Easy Peasy!)
Gen II's return to Kanto was great because it gave you a chance to really exercise the team you've bonded with throughout Johto and the Elite Four. It's so fun to use your fully developed team in post-game. Same with the Sevii Islands in FireRed/LeafGreen and the Battle Frontier.
I’ve always cherished Gen 2 for nostalgia, but never really understood why other older fans loved it so much. This genuinely opened my eyes to a game I’ve been “playing wrong” for a good 20 years. I’m definitely more of a story-driven, long-play kind of RPG fan, so it being designed for shorter, daily bursts makes a LOT more sense now. Not sure why I didn’t connect the dots sooner.
Amazing video, super insightful, well-constructed and edited, and very funny! (I laughed out loud at “nice”).
Gen II is still my favorite generation
I loved Gen 2 as well, but HeartGold/SoulSilver really improved it. Gen 4 may not be my favorite but it did improve the classics.
good for you?
Every second of this review was perfectly executed painting a very clear picture of what these games really are past the fan base. Wow well done.
Crystal has always been my favorite Pokémon game, so many fond memories and so many features! Forever a piece of my heart 😊
I seem to be addicted to this video
Also I tend to find breeding for egg moves in GSC to be more meaningful
And yes, it is essentially a crime that they neglected to put Stadium 2 on the Wii U or even the Switch for 3DS VC users to replicate the experience of the transfer feature
Almost every fully evolved Pokemon was at least reasonably viable last time I checked
SHE EMERGES
The White Treehollow and Black Tower of BW2 I think did the job of teaching the player how to play strategically very well, with them having well thought out trainers that initially were much lower levels than yours and could thus be brute-forced, but soon shot up levelwise and forced you to strategize as well (and better) than they did. That said, it was in the post game, but considering the battle train, online features and otherwise massive post game of BW2 it still built up and guided the player into this more advanced playing style, and learning to optimize. It's sad this has been replaced by the single Battle Maison/Battle Tree in the later games, that have a much higher entry point and where it isn't even demonstrated that being over-leveled isn't the best strategy.
Voliol ngl the battle royal in sun and moon teaches the player how to battle strategically as well but yeah the towers in BW2 were really challenges and it was so worth it for the shiny garchomp/dragonite
...Exept you COULD brute-force the later boss trainers, too. Just use the mascot legendary with either an Choice Band or Choice Lens. Guaranteed win.
In which case you would have learnt how to use held items properly. They weren't impossible by any means, and you didn't need the most clever tactics, but you still needed some, which made them a good entry-point for later parts such as the battle subway and online battles.
I really like your videos! Learning about the history and context of some of my favorite childhood games is a nostalgia bomb combined with information I never could have wrapped my head around as a kid.
27:04 I don't agree with this onscreen message, it's entirely too silly.
While I can't speak on behalf of the Let's Go kanto remakes I will say that even as a child that could barely read I managed to play through Pokemon firered without walkthroughs as I didn't know those even existed. I managed to get through the cave even without flash, I managed to use context clues to find out that the pokeflute was something I could get and with that continue on.
I will say that the guards not letting you through kinda makes sense from the fact that they always repeat how thirsty they are and that as a kid I was baffled by this- but I managed to basically brute through it- because it basically forces you to talk to people and explore.
If you don't take your time to find the tea then you probably won't find the nearby eevee either, or the lapras in silph co, you may not even know that you can get a porygon with a bit of grinding and you're probably too impatient to even get a pikachu in veridean forest at that point.
If you need to be spoonfed nearly completely basic puzzles that just require walking around and experiencing the world then why even play an RPG?
tldr; Man, just talk to the old people, they give you free shit.
Honestly i think that gen I made a better job with finding a way to get into Saffron with vending machine drinks. They on their own are very good items thanks to their superior cost-to-effectiveness value, which can award players that know how to count with accidental opening gates to Saffron, but also there's small event on the roof with girl giving away TMs for these drinks, teaching players that they can be used as currency to bargain with thirsty people.
Either player is awarded for good economics or recognizing similiar situations, two completely different ways to take on this problem with one event.
I will say firered/leaf green made it a lot easier for kids. It presents you the tea and it seems important. In rby you had to go to the top of celadon department store and buy something from the vending machine (the art wasn't amazing lol). But somehow we still managed.
I've seen grown men get confused at the newer pokemon games. It kind of makes me realize that people dont really want to or try to think that hard.
THANK you. I was thinking the exact same thing. Like this is an rpg, if you don't want to explore and talk to just about everyone then why are you even playing? I found flash by accident just exploring. The dude offered up a reward and I wanted it. That's always been one of the main staples of an rpg...
I figured out the guards in the same way you did too: you eventually explore your way to celadon and find the vending machines. If you're anything like me you've tried to get past those guards an unreasonable amount of times. By then the thirst of those sumbitches is burned into your brain.
Same thing with the pokeflute. Most rpg players know you should, and in fact WANT to explore everything. I did exactly that and eventually put the pieces together. I found an item that wakes sleeping pokemon and thought oh shiiit we can finally get past fatty ding dongs! While the snorlax in gsc was quite a bit harder to figure out, I think every single one of these obstacles can be solved SUPER intuitively.
held items introduced
berries introduced
internal clock and time based evolution mechanics introduces
breeding introduced
16 gym 2 regions in one cartridge
roaming Pokemon introduced
28 versions of one pokemon introduced (unown)
Crystal introduces pokemon animations when a pokemon comes out of its ball
Gold Silver Crystal are the GREATEST ADVANVEMENT in the development in Pokemon
26 versions, Gen 4 added the last 2
You forgot the best one. Playable female trainer.
Didnt gen 1 add like 151 pokemon or something??
I'm excited for everyone to get to watch this and see their reactions!! Also, something to note for anyone paying close attention to the music, in the "Under the Hood" section, a remix of "My Favorite Things" plays in the background. It's a really nice touch and exemplifies that those RPG mechanics are the driving force behind all that I love about this game as well! All around, a wonderful video~!
I think I'm going to have to pickup a copy of Pokemon Stadium 2, so I can get the full experience.
Its a great game, just know that the A.I cheats. Hope I'm not ruining anything. It really is unique and ahead of its time.
Really enjoyed this video! Captured what drew me to it as a kid and why I keep coming back to it now as an adult. Great work!
Hey there! You taught me a lot more about this game than I thought I'd ever know, design wise. Your review delves into different aspects than usual ones about this generation, and I appreciate your input.
I want to know what you and other people think about with the rivals these days. I haven't felt super challenged by a lot of them, and gsc's rival was honestly my favorite. A lot of current rivals are more like buddies, with very little skill as opposed to gsc where he had some hard hitters and a full team. Hau is the worst offender of this, his Pokemon don't even have full movesets.
Seeing all the Twitter updates about this video, I was worried it wasn't going to live up to the hype.
Turns out I was worried for nothing! It was well worth the wait!
Dude your shelves are awesome.
32:25
...ooooooooor you can just surf to the pond right next to your house and then fly to the indigo plateau.
Thats what I always did
Shhh only people with big brains are supposed to know about that secret...
It’s more time consuming that way unless you have max repels
This is the best summary of Gen 2 I’ve ever seen @Tama Hiroka
Wow it's been over a year and i sill love coming back to this video i will always love gen 2. I remember playing crystal so much growing up and I will always remember finding a shiny bellsprout back when i was like 8 right outside of Violet City
I feel u. Pokemon Johto the best gen
I love you my lil egg! Ganbatte!
These games are my favourites and always will be, and I don't blame nostalgia as I much prefer these over the gen 1 trio. Something that really stood out was the way they had none-legendary pokemon on the map, they were such a treat to suddenly come across after exploration. The Lapras in particular. Nowadays it's usually only legendaries who get to shine like this. Also fun stuff like the Bug catching contest, the hair dressing bros, the siblings, fishing contest - every day something new was going on and it felt like you were living in the world rather than just passing through it collecting gym badges. It was sad to see gen 3 neglect this aspect, and I hope it makes a return in the future.
Man, I have always wonder why Gold, Silver, and Crystal were so ravine for being the best Pokémon games because I had found them to be dull and I didn't understand the appeal of it for a long time.
Once I had heard that you were working on a massive review on those games, like Gen 4. I was ecstatic on what do you had to say on them, due to how much you played them. Then the video itself came out and I get it now.
I now know why people enjoy them so much and that I was playing it wrong the whole time. Also, the those points on leveling and grinding was handled elegantly.
Excellent video Tamashii!
I need replay them, except the reason I haven't been able to do so. Is not that I lost interest in playing them, but because my 3ds is busted and I need to fix it. :'(
OG genwunner here. Never played gen 2 back in the day. Went back to gen 2 recently. Dope af. Excellent game.
Watching this again after Sword and Shield makes me realize how much was lost. Just, wow.
Same. I played sword and got bored after 10 hours. I made it to the final few battles and just didn’t want to keep going. Then I bought crystal on a whim a few weeks ago and have just clocked in over 12 hours total to this day. Only three badges collected so far but I’m just having way much more fun with it. Gamefreak (imo) has lost their passion for the game in the pursuit of money. Pokémon is the single most grossing media franchise the world!! If they wanted to make a good game, they could EASILY do so by hiring more people. But they don’t.....And I’m afraid of the series declining even further
I have always loved and will always love Gold, Silver and Crystal, but I could never quite pinpoint why or how to articulate it, but this video just completely nails exactly my feelings on it.
I especially agree with what you said about Stadium 2... Having that game really turns GSC into a magical, engaging experience
This video really opened my eyes to how much Pokemon could benefit from elements that leaned heavier into the roleplay aspects that are kinda core the Pokemon experience, like creating a narrative with your team.
I've been wondering what a Pokemon game that borrows some elements from the Persona games (things like social links, the calendar system etc.) Would look like, especially if gyms and the main story took a back seat to the role-playing aspects.
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I have never clicked on a vid so fast~ oh my Tamashiii I missed youu
I will never forget when my pokemon crystal's battery ran dry and I lost my save, definitely one of the most traumatic experiences for me as a kid xD
Realtalk. The first Pokemon game that I owned was Pokemon Stadium 2. I didn't have a game of my own and had gotten into pokemon from my friend's copy of yellow when he came over. Eventually, I got PS2 and managed to beat it completely with just rentals. I remember crying in frustration in some of those fights when I was a little kid but I did it and didn't realize the rentals were considered terrible until MUCH later. Here's to you Earl, you were one hell of a mentor. Your encouraging voice lines helped me push through it.
Here is some niche praise for gen2. The stat experience system gives you much more flexibility for training your Pokemon to be competitive than the EV/IV system. With stat experience every Pokemon can max out its experience in every stat, whereas with EVs you need to selectively battle only specific Pokemon to train specific stats. This means that in gen2 if you happened to catch a Pokemon with competitively viable DVs and battled with it through your playthrough, you can still optimize its stats later on. From basically every gen after this (can't speak for the newest ones) any pokemon you caught and used in the game is basically worthless competitively because of how messed up the EVs will be without massive corrections.
There’s still egg moves, though, which wipe out your levels and stat exp anyways.
I had the same criticizm for newer games but i found value in it thanks to gen 6 which makes it very easy thanks to super training and iv judge.
But still when i want to just enjoy pokemon without counting i play pokemon gold (i prefer gold to crystal thanks to copy glich that is way easier in gs than in c. Infinite numbera of all items and plus when i encounter a shiny i can keep all evolution stages. The only shame is theres so limited number of pokemon.
If you really wanted to start out with Larvitar/Houndour/Sneasle it was actually pretty simple. Get to the post-game on one cartridge, hatch one of them from an egg, and then trade it to a new game. All you need to do is make sure it doesn't over-level before you get the various gym badges that make sure it will obey you. I did this all the time as a kid with friends. Playing with with one of these pokes as a starter team mate was so much fun.
Also to note: if you're one of those people who don't like to use traded pokemon, once you get to Goldenrod City, you can catch a ditto and put that traded pokemon into the daycare for your own egg. That early in the game it is quite easy to level it up to the point where it's the same as your party's levels. ;D
Wow, I wasn’t aware of this video until now. I really enjoyed it! Thank you! I even let the ads run and all.
For the life of me, I cannot figure out the sudden wave of hate boners people have for gen 1 and 2. It seems like every big nostalgic title has to go through this bizarre phase where everyone suddenly hates it and starts ranting on about how overrated it is. I also really don't get the Kanto hate. Any small minuscule reference to Kanto, people have a fit about Kanto being "shoved down their throats in every single title." How about we all just chill out and enjoy the damn games?
Like Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee for instance
I often replay gen 2 for the most important reason.... I like the sprite art from the gen 2 more then the future gen sprites or models.....
Time to re-visit Gen 2! been a long time
I’m only 14 but I appreciate R/B/Y and G/S/C more than what they are coming out with today. I’m a 90s kid at heart gameboys and slow computers are my life!
Omg I'm a 90's kid and you couldn't pay me to go back