Why Is This Cockatiel SO HARD FOR ME? | Diet Conversion Lessons with Clyde
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- In today's video with Clyde the cockatiel, I share a real eye opening diet conversion tip I learned from my friend Patty! It seems so obvious sharing it now... but I could not see it in the moment as a solution. I hope this video helps you in your journey to work with any pick eating bird that is stuck on unhealthy seed mixes as their primary diet!
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This series has been so helpful for the everyman bird owner. When we watch a trainer struggle and continue to share their struggles and how they resolve them, we can realize the challenges aren't necessarily our fault. Sometimes they are so ingrained in the animal it takes a lot of time and patience to work through. Thank you for being so transparent with the journey you've gone through with Clyde.
I'm glad Patti was able to lend a fresh perspective with Clyde's diet conversion. He's a 'spicy' bird personality wise, for sure! I know it's been a struggle but you have made strides with him, and I think, like others have mentioned, that being able to see the good, bad, and ugly has helped others facing similar issues. Thanks for being willing to show the whole process. 😊
Literally just scrolling TH-cam looking for something to watch!!
If it makes you feel any better about your journey with Clyde, this has been the most helpful series yet because my bird has also been a similar journey
so thankful to find this series of you working with Clyde! currently working with 5 rescue cockatiels who lived on an all-millet diet 😩 i share your pain!
From watching the videos on Clyde, I tried once again to get my cockatiel, Luckie, off of the store mix and onto your food. It took almost 2 weeks as Luckie is extremely stubborn, and he would rather starve. I had to mix a bit of his old food and then slowly cut it out; I also increased the good millet as I was cutting out the bad. At this point he is only getting 1-teaspoon of the millet and I ground the pellets down to dust to add in. Luckie has a vitamin A deficiency and has always stuck his beak up to eating fruit and vegetables (Luckie is a rescue bird, and he was used for breeding). I purchased organic baby food (apple, spinach & sweet potato) and mixed with half of the seed. Today is the 2nd day and he has eaten almost all of the baby food seed mix, which is a great deal more than what he consumed on the first day.
This video couldn't come
at a better time for me. I
converted my baby bird to
your pellets, seeds & SFS
in minutes. My cockatiel
is next on the list. He's a
LOT older than 4 months,
and he's pretty much like
Clyde. Thank you for the
homemade seed recipe,
Jamie, wish me luck! 🙏
Update : Since I've had my
baby bird, all of 2 months,
I started offering my other
rescue (a 15 yo cockatiel)
your homemade seed mix
& pellets. He's not touched
it. UNTIL an hour ago. All
I did was add MORE millet
(his favourite) and crushed
your pellets finely. Now, I
can't believe he's been eat-
ing (& playing) non-stop!!!
Your failures help, Jamie.
If it weren't for this SLIGHT
adjustment, I would have
mucked up the conversion
process, and/or stalled it.
THANKS AGAIN! Now I
better order more SFS to
get him on that too! 💚
@@srrfounder1great to hear you kept going I feel like so many people just give up to early on everything’s possible though
@@joebean3615
Thank you, Joe. I agree. I
think people expect quick
results. That's NOT how it
works. ANYTHING worth
attaining comes with a lot
of TIME and effort. 😊✌️
This has been my favorite series so far. Seeing you overcome so many obstacles with him makes you root for the two of you even more. Love this!
I'm watching this with interest as I've owned cockatiels for a long time. You are treating him like you would expect a macaw to act. One big thing that came to mind is wondering if Clyde is being defensive due to his cut feathers. Tiels are one of the most flighty birds so being a prey animal he's not got full ability to fly away from danger. Maybe once he molts his attitude will change. I know from Ozzy my 2 year old Tiel that he's grumpier during molts and fairly chilled out during the fall/Winter months.
Just a thought, if birds are empathetic and i believe they are to a certain extent. Maybe hes picking up on any frustration you maybe feeling. I think you and your family are amazing. You do so much to educate us with very little bird knowledge. Ive picked up so much valuable information. Thank you 😊
My little tiel, same colour as Clyde, would eat the millet out of the seed mix and not touch anything else. What I did was crush the larger seeds in a mortar and pestle, then offered a few to him by hand - to my surprise he seemed to enjoy them and then did eat more of the larger seeds from his bowl. As an older bird he just couldn't easily crack the bigger seeds so went with the easy pickings.
Cockatiels are the weird parrots. They're my favorites, but they aren't easy birds. They're so stubborn! You absolutely can't force a cockatiel out of his comfort zone. The one thing I noticed is the way your body language changes around him. It's natural and normal to brace yourself when dealing with a difficult bird, but cockatiels are very empathic. They pick up on your body language and mirror it back to you.
Looks like you have a typical Cockatiel, lol. They are wonderful birds though and my personal favorite. I feel like you set Clyde up to fail that morning regarding his interaction with Capri. He was already stressed transitioning back into the home. He needed time to be alone and decompress. It wasn't the best time for hanging out with Capri and that's why she ended up getting bit. Hopefully, you'll be able to get his diet under control and you'll be successful with his training.
Could not agree with you more!
Compliantly agree although Jamie had a lot going on and wasn’t thinking the clearest (also not sure if many of you know but Jamie had Clyde 6 months ago
@@joebean3615 I get what you're saying because she has stated that several times but it's just not a good excuse.
@@joebean3615 yes, I completely understand that and knew about them having Clyde before. It was just an observation. Maybe someone will read it and keep it in mind if they're in a similar situation.
Really appreciating this series right now. I got a second tiel almost 2 months ago. I've been keeping a bowl of his food from the pet store in his cage, but also a bowl of my mix that I make (inspired by yours). I just wanted him to get used to me and everything about my house before I tried to convert him. Wanting to finally take the steps to transition him though. The seed mix he had at the pet store isn't too bad, it's an in house mix that doesn't have a ton of junk in it. It's still not ideal for me though. I'm looking forward to watching your whole Clyde series so that I can take the best steps possible in this process.
Thank you for sharing Clyde's journey with us. My Miss Kitty (yellow naped Amazon) needs to watch this video. Lol
I don't know where you live, but you have a lovely, peaceful home & place.
I think Clyde needs some background music or some birds to watch on a tablet, it could improve his mood with some mild stimulation. I think he's bored 😢 it might sound bonkers but I think seeing some happy cockatiels on a screen could brighten his mood ❤❤❤ he DEFINITELY loved the patio area. That happy chirp was obvious. What a beautiful bird and a lovely house. Love that patio area!!
I have a blue budgie and a lutino cockatiel. Blueberry and Clyde remind me of my two antics. They're so sweet together most of the time but maaan do they cause trouble. The budgie can open her own and the cockatiel's cage and for a while we didn't know who was letting who out. Hence a pet camera.
Thank you for sharing the seed mix & for sharing the struggle!! It's so exciting to see the progress❤❤
Wish Clyde knew what a great human being you are Jamie, this little guy is such a challenge but he seems to do better out in the fresh air (or not,lol). Hang in there my dear, Clyde has got to eventually see what we all see. Sorry about what happened to Capri, one of those murphies law kind of days. Thanks for sharing, see you soon.
Diet and tiels I'm finding hard too. I started Ozzy off on your budgie seed mix which he took to immediately, then as soon as you released the cockatiel mix recipe he took to that as if nothing changed. He finally eats some cooked veggies when I'm eating them, peas where his favourite and I'm trying again with pellets. Don't see things as failure, I've learned that. Cockatiels are deeply stubborn devils and I hope Capri is okay. Ozzy does bite me occasionally but I generally read him well enough to avoid it
I make my own cooked food that my cockatiels love. I make a grain bake. I mix all sorts of grains like couscous, oats, millet, rice, barley, lentils, and flax seed. Mix with spices like cinnamon and cayenne. Put enough water to cover, and bake until grains are cooked. They love my cooked food. They like it warm.
I cut the leaves off of my celery while cooking. Then I rinse it with water so it is dripping wet and hang it in the cage as a toy. My cockatiel loves drinking/bathing in the water and shredding the leaves. Would this passive approach encourage Clyde to be more accepting of fresh ingredients in his food?
So good to get a refreshing bath on the porch. And Berry did not care one bit that he got a little feisty with her.
Could Blue to the berry be a good motivator for Clydes foodconvertion? We all know she is a little crazy around food.
My budgie is so happy theese days since grasstraws are in season.
Blueberry got her really really girly cere! and molting! oh my what a cutie
The series are very very exciting so far :3 the cockatiels are so stubborn, damn. My male budgie kinda acts like he, just not so angry lol. I have hard times teaching him eat healthier diet. Luckily, he eats any sort of healthy seed mixes, the problem is vegies and fruits
Oops the message with Patty had profanity in there.
I appreciate all the patience you have with Clyde.
Hey.. maybe it was just the video... but Clyde's body language seemed a lot different outside. I know some birds just need more natural light than others. Do you think that might be true with Clyde?
I recently lost my cocktail Jack after 24 years, I miss him 😢 he was a soft bugger
Similar spot with two of my birds! -- my Macaw and conure do the seasonal chop and organic pellets no problem
Meanwhile my Senegal eats the chop but not the pellets (he grids up the pellets but wasn't actually eating them and started dropping weight before I caught on) and the newest lovebird doesn't do either the chop or pellets yet haha, she definiety flings her chop more then anything
However! I do have the Senegal and Lovebird eating the Mikey&Mia spicy and calming seed mixes, plus a little of the Golden Feast, so a not too bad start for now 😅
cokatiels are incredibly stubborn
for real!!! i just adopted mine about 3 months ago and he’s a super quick learner but he was a little brat when i first got him lol steps up really well, recalls really well, but straight up refuses to eat a new diet
Ya tell me abt it...i got 6 of em
@@himakshibhattacharjee1568 Same! I have 6 cockatiels and a budgie. LOL
@@d1sastcrpiece290Hey! Just wanted to ask if you have any advice for that? I know you said yours refuses but is there anything you have noticed works better or worse? I just got my own cockatiel a little while ago and noticed immediately she is way more stubborn about diet than my budgies ever were lol.
When I had a cockatiel he did not like veggies, but would pick at broccoli heads.
He’s such a stubborn bird haha reminds me so much of humans 😂
I'm glad to see you bring Clyde to the porch. He looks so much happier there! I was wondering if there is a window in Clyde's living space where he is exposed to and getting the benefits of natural light and seeing the outdoors? Maybe that's why he is not a morning bird and otherwise cranky.
I've kept birds before but now I primarily keep reptiles (which can be very similar in some ways). My favorite are bearded dragons. They have great personalities and are interactive. I brought my beardie Pedro home from my classroom for the summer. Instead for moving his huge and heavy habitat I got him a new one just to keep at home. It's almost identical to the other one but has some differences. It has really thrown him for a loop. His diet is off.
He's a 2 year old and should be about 75-85% veggies & fruits and the rest insects. As babies, they eat almost all insects... and he had converted easily to an adult diet... loved his veggies & fruits. But now that he moved he suddenly almost exclusively wants insects and will pout about it!.
It's like a toddler regressing when they go through a change and suddenly wanting a bottle or pacifier again. He's also doing some "glass surfing" which he's never done before. It's been a week and he's settling back in mostly... though he's still not eating his veggie & fruits as well as normal... but it's a little better. Some things just take time them.
Bearded dragons are so cool! I would love to take care of one but am not used to keeping insects for feeding
@sivniq I vary mine and pick them up once a week. It's not hard. Pedro's favorite are crickets because he loves chasing them. I have a plastic critter keeper. I throw in some of the beardie's veggie salad & some calcium powder to gut load them to make them nutritious for him. He also likes super worms. I leave them in the plastic container they come in. Feed them a few leaves from the beardie's greens. Since Pedro is an adult he only gets 10-20% of his diet from insects so it's really not that much... though he would eat his fill if I let him. I dislike the dubia roaches a little because they crawl up my finger... but they are good nutrition so I include them in the rotation. Pedro likes it when I put him on the floor and throw a super worm somewhere in front or to the side of him so he can run after them... almost like a dog playing fetch except he eats them. You can get killed & canned insects too. Pedro will eat them with his greens. There's also dried mixes you can rehydrate. Pedro HATES that... but others do ok with it. Pedro will eat it a little if that's all there is.... but he gives me the evil eye. The most expensive part is the habitat. You can start small when babies but you'll quickly need a long 120 gal tank. And you must always provide UVB light along with calcium supplements or they get metabolic bone disease which is disfiguring and painful for them. They are worth it though. I've had green iguanas but the bearded dragons just have more personality. Leopard Geckos do too... but they aren't as good with handling. A beardie will sit on your shoulder for an hour while you type or watch tv... Geckos will keep climbing around.
Clyde is a tough bird.. but he's come a long way already
My older cockatiel will not convert 100%. He eats some pellets and some greenery, but he needs his seeds or else he will be super pissed at me and throws a tantrum. I tried offering him the seeds only in the morning and evening (pellets always available), but he would binge very badly on the seeds in the evening to the point that he would actually make himself throw up. He was also screaming desperately in the evening. I had to stop this. He can be so dramatic when he wants to. He has trained me more than I have trained him. He and his buddy are super stubborn and bossy, and they love to do all the naughty things they can get away with.
Anyhow, it reassures me to see your videos and that despite your extensive bird training experience, you also struggle with your cockatiel. It makes me feel a bit more validated... especially when I have to face the vet and explain why they’re not converted.
You may find he likes grass and greens. My cockatiel liked grass.
Our five cockatiels don't prefer yellow millet, too. But they LOVE the red one. Maybe it's worth a try as a treat?
I have a cockatiel and i can't train him cuz he's too stubborn and scared but he still talks to me a bit and he's so cute :)
I have an albino kind tiel with white feathers named Eva who looked weaker, thinner, and a bit smaller than the other tiel rescues that were in the same selection we got her from. Eva is below weight but no other health problems by the vet. 1st day she beaked my finger and it was too soft that I don’t think it’s a bite and she also has a soft prettier pitched tweet compared to other my friends grey tiel. I hear female albino tiels are the gentle ones from stories I read on forums
I only was able to get her to try pellets when I mashed and wet them then stuck seeds on it.
Eva would be scared of Clyde xD
Fred was my baby boy for 20 years I wish I would have known about spray bottle and foraging tree but he was always loose from the cage.
My baby (he's like 7 months old or something) cockatiel goes crazy over almond shavings. I buy a lot and keep them in the fridge and take some out whenever I want him to step up. He doesn't even like millet. Maybe try almond shavings!
Definitely have the pellets small size, one mistake I see many make when converting is the pellet size is too big for these cockatiels and they become less interested. You don't even have to grind them to dust but small chunks vs whole pellets. My cockatiel was very similar to Clyde and at first, I couldn't understand why he refused to touch the pellets until I grinded them into smaller bits.
Where did you get the awesome tree for your bird? ◡̈
It amazes me the ammount of Australian wild life the Americans are allowed to have in their country
Trees ,lizards , snakes
I think he would be happy to be an aviary bird with a fellow bird type friend.
Around 12:19 you’ll see Clyde lunging at blueberry
Some birds don’t get along with other birds very well and yes some birds do love company but Clyde isn’t one
I love my cockatiel, Gizmo, but she is soooo stubborn. I have successfully transitioned her to pellets, but she will not touch fresh food. If it's on my dinner plate and it's starchy like Mac n cheese, mashed potatoes, or bread she will go out of her way to steal some from me, but she will not touch it if I put it in her food dish. Oh yeah sometimes she'll eat eggs too.
Hell of a title
I'm still trying to convert my budgie. I have a mix of Oat groats and millet (both human food grade organic) mixed with powdered pellets.
Amaranth is easy to grow and feed from a seed head a little like the millet. I am not seeing them in the seed mix on screen right here today. Was wondering if you use amaranth or there is a reason you don't.
Leafy greens with stems
Why is it so hard? Because 1. You don't like cockatiels and it's obvious 2. Cockatiels can be stubborn 3. You've ignored most of your own rules in dealing with him. 4. You have a hard biter, which I''ve nver seen in cockatiels (and I've seen quite a few), and you ignore your own rules dealing with him. Did I mention you've ignored your own rules? For anyone who's watched you handle multiple birds, there are so many things you've done with Clyde that are just baffling and completely contrary to pattern. Oh, and slight discomfort does work with Cockatiels, too. You;'ve reinforced a lot of his bad behavior by letting him get away with it (rewarding that behavior)
For all the mentioning of how she's 'ignored her own rules', you haven't given any examples of those rules despite being 'so many things she's done that are contrary to pattern'. If you actually wanted to be helpful, to her and to anyone else reading your comment, give examples.
which rules do you mean? of the three cockatiels I've had one of them was a hard biter, so it can happen. the other two wouldn't even really bite, they'd just pretend to bite when they were mad
Please give us examples.
@@DragonflameWolfpawI'll give you an example. Bringing a bird into a new environment and changing its diet multiple times within 5 (I think) days.
Clearly rehoming a bird is incredibly stressful for the bird. As is leaving him with a friend for a few days and then taking it "home" and putting it in a less familiar room with a child. Capri may have been brought up around birds and be very confident but that was a disaster waiting to happen. Hopefully she shakes it off.
Birds are intelligent but they are not rational human beings. We shouldn't expect them to behave as such.
I'm disappointed because a lot of the things poor Clyde has been put through are mistakes that beginners make, not what I would have expected from an expert.
I firmly believe she would have had more success working at a slower pace and not changing his diet multiple times.
In terms of helping her, I've already given examples in just about every video she's posted about this bird.
As for you, if you've watched her videos you already know a lot of them, but I'll give you a couple, anyway.
1. She doesn't believe in leaving a bird in its carrying cage after it first arrives. She didn't follow that rule with Clyde. 2. She doesn't allow her birds to have their own cages, and moves them regularly. With Clyde, she has him sleeping in that same carrrying cage every night. 3. She doesn't pay attention to his mental state - we saw her more than once pick the bird up off the floor after he just flew into a wall, and immediaely try to train him. And then she was oblivious to why he didn't want to train. 4. Same as 3, she's always talking about paying attention to a bird's visual cues, but she seems to rarely do that with Clyde. 5. She's often talked about needing to be in the right head space (my words) when dealing with a bird, but she's ignored that with Clyde. Not only has her dislike of cockatiels often been almost palpable through the screen, but something about the bird has made her continually second guess herself and come across as uncertain and hesitant. 6. You can't make progress until you deal with diet/diet converion. That's the number two rule after monitoring weight. But even though she's voiced concern about Clyde's diet, she hasn't made it a priority. Even in this video, it was her friend who supposidly converted him to their own brand of seed mix while she was away (although Clyde is still clearly just picking out the millet). Frankly, I didn't know that cockatiels were exclusively seed (and grain) eaters. The ones I've had and seen have all eaten all sorts of other things, from veggies to sweet potato. My avian vets have always said that an exlusively seed diet is bad for them.
I don't know how much of all this is the editing of the vids, but it's almost like she's been a different person with this bird. And yes, I'm aware that these events took place some time ago.
My takeaway is cockatiels are grainatarians.
This series is helpful to me as I just got a re-home/rescue cockatiel. He's 2 years old. The first owner had him for 6 months. When she re-homed him to owner #2, she was asked "Does he step up?" and the original owner said "What's that?" Owner #2 had a large open living area with 2 levels, and sometimes had to "chase" him to get him back in his cage. However, she did otherwise take great care of the bird, as she has had multiple parrots before and knew how to take care of him. Anyhow, he will step up for me without drama when he flies off and winds up on the floor. If he is up on a curtain rod, there is a slight step back, but no drama and he steps up. But on his perch/play area above his cage it's another story: backing away, a little drama, no trust in my hands. I did put a cornflake between my lips and he would approach me and nibble. If I move the cornflake to my hand he hesitates and then nibbles. But if I show him I'd like him to step up, he backs away with a little drama. As I've only had him for 8 days, I'm not yet discouraged. However, my first cockatiel I had lived 13 years and started to step up right away, and my recent cockatiel I had for 27 years and he started to step up the first day I got him. However, his past was uncomplicated, I got him from a breeder.
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I got my cockatiel on pellets by feeding her one at a time from my hand
Nice video India
I have a little 4 months cockatiel and my husband and i want to keep him cageless, he started flying better these days, anyone who did cageless nights too?
I would never do this with a cockatiel. They're very prone to night frights and could easily harm themselves flying around and crash landing somewhere unsafe in a panic
Both my cockatiels are cageless at night. There are occasional night fights, but both my birds start hovering once they launch themselves into the darkness lol. You turn on a light and they orient themselves and fly back to their perch
I don't think you did a good job with clyde. You guys often say to use permission based training and don't talk in absolutes, but I feel like, your tried to brute force your approaches on a bird, that would have non of it - and failed to recognize that circumstance on several occasions and failed adapt - maybe because you thought about your approach to this bird in absolutes as well. I think it would have been better as a voice over series, where you talk about your mess ups and explain where you went wrong and how to choose a better approach.
MisterTene in the wild 👀
Absolutely agree with you. And as she said in the final Clyde video she was missing a very big component which is felt throughout this series: love. So happy he found a loving home!
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Why is his tail feathers cut?
cuz that's the way he was clipped before he came to her
@mischr34 yea, but what's the purpose? Is it to stop him flying?
@@SonOfVulkan I guess it was supposed to but didn't work. it's a weird way to clip a bird too (tho I don't like any clipping)
@mischr34 Yes it's a horrible thing to do, I've never seen tail feathers clipped like that 🤔
@@SonOfVulkan no, it wouldn't stop flying at all. Heck, lovebirds/cockatoos/african greys have tiny tails and fly just fine. The reason is more likely that either his feathers were very soiled... either the owner mistakenly was trying to "help" the bird because they have to make extra-effort when turning and climbing to not get their tails "stuck". Cockatiels need time to learn how to move around with that long tail. Honestly it probably doesn't impair him much, albeit it's kind of ridiculous looking
Just get him a cockatiel girlfriend so they can be stubborn together...
Not a fan of cockatiels or toos.
My tiel is a sweetheart. He'd change your mind :)