We got a Drill Doctor for the shop, we tried it a couple times and just went back to either using a bench grinder or a belt sander. There's probably 2" of dust on that Drill Doctor now.
***** unfortunately? or fortunately? see if AVE will send u his drill doc. hes either not gonna use it or sit on it untill he can turn it into a toothpick launcher or some shit to fire toothpicks at the wife and laugh as they bounce off her chest.
Oh! I'll be saying that for the rest of my life I guess. I laughed so hard I missed some of the video and had to go back. The labels of my cutting discs warn against side grinding, so I'll have to squint extra hard.
Really like your channel! When I was about 12 years old my uncle showed me how to sharpen twist drills by hand on a bench grinder and produce a round hole. Its harder than you think! A real test is to take a broken drill, cut it off so the end is square with side and go from there. Keep up the good work! Im 59 years old and still love learning and laughing!
I had a welder I was helping show me several years ago. Up until that moment I was under the impression that dull drill bits were trash and have thrown away many. The welders exact words were "trial and error, either it will drill a hole or it won't. And in that case, grind on it some more until it works. It's all about finding the correct angle". He had drill bits that were 2 to 3 inches that when new were 7 or so inches long.
"The way your grade ten shop teacher lectures you to do it, in between six months of filing square blocks with a dull file." Fuck me, I thought it was just us.
geez, my shop teacher actually had us do stuff. Not entirely sure I'll ever forgive him for tricking me into melting my Styrofoam plane with spray paint (it left a green stain on the welding room floor) but we made at least 4 projects in 2 years
That's actually one of the first things we learned in trade school was how to sharpen drills by hand. They had a bin of "chowdered" drills. You had to take one, sharpen it, drill a hole in some scrap, and turn them both in. FFW about 20 years, I work in a machine shop with all the latest gadgets and cutting-edge tooling and technology. Know what happens when you have to have a particular drill and some dumb fuck chowdered the last one, didn't order any, and put it back in the drawer? You sharpen it by hand. Word to the wise: DRILL A TEST HOLE FIRST!. If you don't grind it right, it will drill oversize.
I used to work an Acme Gridley multi-spindle screw machine. To get the right hole size, we'd grind a drill bit slightly off exactly for that reason. You might need a couple of extra thou' and that would just do it.
It's about time AvE embraced the very evident demand for such a garment that exists among his many admirers and got a good stock of these, say 36 dozen kilopubes worth-so, how about it?
Chevy 454 he is missing 1 EXTREMELY NECESSARY for success... While tightening the fastener you need to pray to your preferred god/goddess/higher power that you believe in that the Crack you hear will be caused by the unloading up the twisting force that was building up in the metal of the bolt.
That was no tutorial but a highly entertaining rant! I would allow that drill doc not even in a machineshop. Squeaky plastic thing. A propper drill sharpening machine is great but that means in my book a floor standing 1000pound piece of machinery that works.
Man your vids are some of the best. I bought a drill doctor a long time back and maybe used 10 to 15 times then put it on the shelf where it still sits collecting shop dust. Went back to hand grinding all my bits. Just works quicker and better for me. Keep up the awesome informative vids.
Just found your videos. Little late to the game,but I'll chime in anyway. I have sharpened a drill bit with a belt sander because that's all I had. If you travel you can't take the whole shop. Problem solving is getting it done with what you have.
If I am doing a shut down, I am bringing in new drill bits by the gross. You can also use a chop saw with an abrasive blade to sharpen bits. I learned how to sharpen bits as a hired electrical hack under contract for Proctor & Gamble at a laxative factory. They sold trainloads of that stuff to Australia. Them Aussies must be really constipated. What they did not send down under got made into Metamucil. When they made batches of the orange stuff, it stained my contact lenses orange. Nothing like having that liver disease look in your eyes!
It's a generational thing. All our old people are 100% absofacklutely convinced that they will die of cancer of arse explosion, idk, if they are the slightest bit "irregular". Whatever that means. Me, I take metamucil to _stop_ shitting. I had me gallbladder out in diddly 3. And since then I'm lucky if I have 2 consecutive solid shits a year. But metamucil makes it less like battery acid. Apparently it's one of the many charming side effects of a gallbladder removal my surgeon or doctor didn't think it was a good idea to tell me about. And I worked that out myself after seeing the same fucks for "irritable bowel" for more than a decade. Still, I suppose it's better than the feeling you get when passing a gallstone, which is akin to having a 2 by 4 hammered through your chest 3 inches right of your solar plexus...
yup used to work for a tight wad who wouldnt buy a grinder used disc sander to sharpen drills and split points or thin web...theres shops in area now that throw away all drills when dull end mills also millinials..are wimps
Nice. Same way my shop teacher did it. He spent a whole class teaching us how to do this - it was about the only worthwhile thing I learned in school. Thanks, Mr. D.
Thanks AVE, I only watched this video last week. Today in work I snapped my good 10mm HSS and the only other one I had was so blunt it couldn't melt its way through PVC, let alone cut through steel. The only thing I had handy was my grinder and I was able to get a fairly decent edge on the old bit, enough to get the job done. Saved me a headache, nice one.
That's funny as hell cause I'm living proof the old 1/2 drill motors will surely break your wrist in many places!!!!!! Respected them much more for rest of my life!
I love the way you "encourage" your tools to behave. I do it exactly the same way! I've never seen a machinist use a Drill Doctor. I have seen them use disk sanders a thousand times. Only time we sent them out was for the custom bits we had which had 2 or more diameters. Used for manufacturing; i.e., drilling through both walls of a tubular steel component with a tool and fastener head clearance hole on one wall and the thru hole on the opposite wall.
I have never posted a comment on youtube in my life but this was such an informative and hugely entertaining film I had to break my silence. Great system for getting you out of a muddle and funny, funny, funny. This is how the people I work with get by. many thanks
Precisely. I grind bits in the field the same way: grinder on the ground, boot on the grinder, squat and squint like a Metalworker in Mumbai. Works every time.
Hi AvE, Yes in deedy, I took my 4 year formal Machinist Apprenticeship at Jorgensen Steel in Seattle Washington. One of the first things we had to do was sharpen a 3" drill off hand on a pedestal grinder. I know, and, you probably know that by orienting the cutting lip just slightly up at the periphery, will properly orient the chisel point. Drill nomenclature. You can of course use a drill pointer gage, 59 degrees or 118 deg. included angle, for most bits. I am a sub to both you and The Post Apocalyptic Inventor. Your funny, but right on. If the chip comes out even your good on the lips, one side and their off. Obviously to much relief and the cutting edge will not hold up. Milling the potato was some funny sh*t. Happy Summer, be good, C.
Supposing your 80 pound buddy is over 80 pounds and thus out of spec? Take out the excess tonnage with a hole saw much like a core sample. Easy as pie.
damm man your one badass dude love watching your videos stopped me from buying a drill doctor no clean holes but it made my crappy bits work longer never stop these vids please your expert advise helps us beginners a shit load
You grind em exactly like I do; light cutting edge grind and a delicate roll off the back to put tool relief on it. Don't mash the tip into the grind; don't heat it up and ruin the temper. Leave enough meat to get an aggressive cut on most materials. Excellent presentation.
My dad maintained his bits with a grinding stone liberally smothered in patience and experience. He got it done. Lectreacle doodads and _"tool grade plastic"_ be damned! Ain't nobody got minutes for nothing these days :-(
I appreciate the quick lesson on sharpening using a grinder. So much hate in the drill dr. I'm thinking the simplicity is too complicated for some. My dad gave me a drill dr 500x several years back. Finally decided to see if it's worth a damn. Can't just go up to a grinding stone but it only takes a minute or so, if that to sharpen a bit perfectly in the drill dr. It may not be something someone is brave enough to bring to a jobsite, but suits a typical homeowner very well.
Your channel aspired my 35 y/o butt to take up Machine, Welding and Industrial Mechanics night classes herr at my local institution. That bit (no pun intended) about the instructor looking up videos on TH-cam for the next lesson while we sharpen 30 year old 1 inch industrial drill bits was spot on.
I was working on a Methane storage site, and the con brought in a drill doc for us to use.. Apparently USA made drill bits that tended to shatter with the first hole because there too hard for 1/4 mild steel cost so much it was "a sound investment".. So when the boss was not looking I used the bench grinder he bought to deburr unistrut (why the fack) to keep my busted drills workin.. Good vid
Love that comment about filling steel block square with dull file, did not mention crap hacksaw blades. I took my own file hacksaw blades, and lathe tools to Technical college. Also lost 2 stone in weight working in Iran for 6 week living on rice a grisly lamb. Love the humour.
The good old Sears drill sharpening jig will do the job fast and perfect. Screw it down to your work bench and sharpen all the drill bits you can find just right. Thanks for the video. So you offended a cult did you? Better start looking under the bed at night.
I was a track welder on a small railroad in northern Minnesota. One of the things I did was sharpen drill bits for drilling the web of railroad rail. This is carbon steel and nothing to trifle with. The methods in this video mirrored perfectly my situation in the field...although I did have a trigger lock on my grinders. The occupational language was very similar, as were the mosquitoes (and the cold in the winter). Granted, this is not first-line machinist method maybe, but it is what works when you have to get those bolt holes drilled so you can put the track back together, before the ore train comes...and the old man does not want you to stop the damned train because of a bolt hole.
What the heck is that contraption he is building with two brake discs (rotors) on the bench? 'F' the drill sharpening, most of us know how to do that by now.
i used to sharpen twist drills for a living and can tell you it is an art. That being said unless you know what in the sam hell your doing a drill doc will seem like a joke. However as the ladies say its not the size its the.....? Well clearly i wasn't listening. If you take time and actually learn it. It will produce great results. You don't even get the off center tip speed wobble that a bench grinder is sure to provide.
Had a sideways look at the drill doctor for years and thought it was crap. Been using a petrol disc cutter to grind my paving chisels since I was a kid. Good man keep up the good work
Subscribed. This is one guy I could work with. Knows his subject and doesn't believe in bull shit. Also, very funny. My be a pleausre to work with. Bench marked against the "Plastic Drill Dr sharpener" brigade who believes in, "If you can't brainwash them with science;baffle them with bullshit".
Lord Skitch But with a drill doctor, any monkey can sharpen a drill bit to a reasonable sharpness. With a grinder, you have to know what you're doing. But if you know what you're doing, the drill doctor is useless.
February I think it's got more to do with buying a single use tool as a way to not spend the time to learn how to do it correctly. And, in the process, screw yourself out of a good skill to have. 'Tis no bueno to spend your life cutting corners. Even with the Drill Doc, I imagine the first handful of drill bits come away either god awful or a quarter inch shorter. With a bench grinder, or even a field-expedient crazy Cannuck contraption in a vise, the same thing's gonna happen, but once you've got it down, you don't have to have a special tool to get the job done.
February Au contraire. At the shop I used to work at, the owner had his primate of a son convert most of our dull, but functional drill bits into useless bits of steel using a DrillDr. I am no master hand sharpener, but after trying the Drill Dr my self, I found that it prevented getting good grinds more often than it allowed them. Also it has enough wobble in the holder that grinds are seldom uniform from one flute to the next. Freehanding on a bench sander was honestly easier.
Pretty much all I do is drill stainless. While I'm pretty good at doing them on the grinder, I got a drill doctor and like it. 1: I use very expensive drill bits that are worth resharpening. Even smaller ones. 2: Buying new drill bits takes money and time (more money). 3: While I can hand sharpen beautiful 6 facet drills, it takes a lot of time (much more money). The drill dr is quicker. And I have to resharpen an awful lot. 4: The drill docktor is more reliable than old shakey here from day to day. 5: While busting out a bit on the grinder is quick, the flutes will not be even nor will the relief angle be right. While having the relief right is not that important for machine drilling, it really helps having it where you want it to be for hand drilling. 'course if you're drilling with uneven cutters, your going to be oversized and likely bell-mouthed. 6: The next best thing costs $2000. That said the split point function is a bit of a joke. You want to go back to the grinder for those. And if you have a serious chunk out of the drill you'll want to rough it out on the grinder and finish it on the dr, since it has such a weak, slow grinder built in. I also got it with the idea that others in the shop could use it to sharpen bits because they can't do it on the grinder, but unfortunately that hasn't actually happened. Must be a life lesson there. It's easy to bad mouth the drill dr; any dummy can do that with a casual glance. Much harder to figure it out and see what it's actually for so you can properly criticize it.
***** If they simply had a few sizes of collets which were tight enough fitting (even lathed zamac would be fine) to actually hold small bits concentric, or put a unifor chisel onto a big bit, I would love the thing. I had a boss who expected inhumanly perfect tolerances from a pair of wobbly chinese drill presses. He could "see" from across the shop floor that one plate in a stack of 20 had a hole that was 1/128th off on cross square. My micrometer eye was never so sharp. Unfortunately,he couldn't see that his presses wandered by almost 0.125", that his stanley brand squares he expected us to do layout with would leave almost 0.25" gap if you put two of them together, that his level would give different readings by 5/16" if you swapped ends... So having a drill bit that was true enough to give a chance of a hole near the center mark would have made life a lot easier.
I've had to do this so many times out in the middle of nowhere with a limited set of tools to work with. The 1/8" cutting disks work the best because they're gentle. If you're really brave you can relieve the web quite easily with the cutting edge of the disk too.
just found your channel it's really enjoyable infotainment. love your comments I'm sitting here laughing in my work truck and people looking at me like I'm nuts, little do they know!
Thanks for your experienced engineering tip, to tighten the angle grinder up in the vice until, “you hear the crack, then wind it back a ¼ turn.” I laughed so hard I passed a little bit of wee.. Keep your stick on the ice..
I think your videos are great! I have been doing service work for about 40 years in the printing industry and its amazing how you need to improvise in the field. Some places your lucky they have a bench vise. Sound like you may also might be into flying.
your art bit is brilliant. I spent some time at one of the fancier fine art schools in the US and the most important thing I learned is " if you can't make it good make it big, if you can't make it big make it red". People pay $100k+ for that knowledge and you just figured it out yourself.
I've been in metal working going over 10 years so in some old F'ers eyes I'm still new. But, I was taught how to sharpen a drill the same manner you used here but not with a damn angle grinder. Now I know how to sharpen my drills at home! I knew there was a trick to learn here only a seasoned ol boy such as yourself could teach. Thank you.
Well, I didn't notice any off-center chatter, and the drill cut an impressive hole. Congratulations and thank you. I expect to discard a lot of my broken drills after practicing your technique.
+jgilk1 my dad told one of his workers not to run the grinder without the guard. he did it anyway. the disk shattered and slit his throat. killed him on the spot. just 20 years old.
+jgilk1 my dad told one of his workers not to run the grinder without the guard. he did it anyway. the disk shattered and slit his throat. killed him on the spot. just 20 years old.
+jgilk1 my dad told one of his workers not to run the grinder without the guard. he did it anyway. the disk shattered and slit his throat. he died. just 20 years old.
Learned how to sharpen bits from an old mechanic who hated buying new tools. He would even sharpen down to 1/8 inch. I'm still not as good at it as he was but the skill has gotten me out of a pickle a few times. Like when I needed to drill a 3/4 hole with only 3 inches of work space. A right angle drill and a cut down bit with about half a twist left did the trick.
i have sharpened many a drill bit on a job this way and see no problem with it. It's an effective way to keep working. I have sharpened small bits with an air die grinder with a cut off wheel.
i hear ya bout 1980's machine shop with a dull file,filing the block square!The teacher could take a tool steel lathe bit,and whitle out a perfect fishtail cutter.Sadly i'll never be that good,lol.Power to the inserts.cool video man!
Just recently stumbled upon your channel, and I have since watched the majority of your past videos. Great content, and great commentary. I look forward to seeing more videos from your channel in my TH-cam feed.
I inherited a drill doctor and can actually get pretty good results w/ it on smaller drill bits. My eyes aren't too good anymore so the small ones are tough for me to get centered. It does take a little practice to get it down though. The larger ones like the HF silver and demings I do pretty well manually on the grinder and belt sander though.
I have definitely used a grinder and cutoff wheel in the field plenty of times! Quick edit/hint- when you are about to come through the back of the metal just back off on the pressure until you are barely pulling little chips instead of biting a thick curly chip. Then it will pop through without trying to break your wrist or drillbit.
I can't count how many videos of yours that I've watched but everytime I hear you say focus you fuck it still gets me everytime..... Keep em coming! 👍👍
Old drill bits are a great source of pins of unusual sizes. Once, and only once did I succeed in sharpening a drill bit that looked as good as "used but still cutting".
When I started technical college for Manufacturing Technology the first thing you were taught was sharpening a drill. Not kind of, not sort of close, but a proper sharpening where the drill would drill the hole the size of the drill. The instructor would hand you a 5/8" drill with the tip flattened and you had to put a 118°, equal-length, equal-angled tip back on it with a bench grinder. I believe the course was designed to do this first lesson to eliminate those who didn't want to learn. I have an early Darex grinder that does an OK job but when I need to taylor the drill to a specific job I hand grind them. It's faster than the machine and just as accurate AND I can grind chip breakers to what ever extent I need…. Split-points? No problem! Take a 118° drill and put a 135° tip on it, no problem. Grinding drills should be a Manly-Man skill…..
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We got a Drill Doctor for the shop, we tried it a couple times and just went back to either using a bench grinder or a belt sander. There's probably 2" of dust on that Drill Doctor now.
***** use it as target practice for shootin drill bits outa the shotty. poetic justice or ironic fuckassery? you decide
***** into additional dust surface ;D
Josh Wilkerson I don't work at that craphole anymore unfortunately.
***** unfortunately? or fortunately? see if AVE will send u his drill doc. hes either not gonna use it or sit on it untill he can turn it into a toothpick launcher or some shit to fire toothpicks at the wife and laugh as they bounce off her chest.
forgot to disconnect your keyboard again?
"Tighten till you hear the crack then back off a quarter turn".
Classic!
My uncle is fond of saying 'Back up till you hear glass break, then pull up a foot'
I'd have thought it needs another 1/4 turn beyond the crack for proper angular torque
tighten til it turns free.
Oh! I'll be saying that for the rest of my life I guess. I laughed so hard I missed some of the video and had to go back. The labels of my cutting discs warn against side grinding, so I'll have to squint extra hard.
I go a little past the crack with mine and leave it. I dont want that thing jumping out of there.
I love how YT added adverts for Drill Doctors at the end of this one! I almost spilled a beer.
Only drunk people watch this
Really like your channel! When I was about 12 years old my uncle showed me how to sharpen twist drills by hand on a bench grinder and produce a round hole. Its harder than you think! A real test is to take a broken drill, cut it off so the end is square with side and go from there. Keep up the good work! Im 59 years old and still love learning and laughing!
I had a welder I was helping show me several years ago. Up until that moment I was under the impression that dull drill bits were trash and have thrown away many. The welders exact words were "trial and error, either it will drill a hole or it won't. And in that case, grind on it some more until it works. It's all about finding the correct angle". He had drill bits that were 2 to 3 inches that when new were 7 or so inches long.
Most guys I know have a heavy hand when sharpening drill bits. I appreciate you showing that a light touch is all that is needed.
"The way your grade ten shop teacher lectures you to do it, in between six months of filing square blocks with a dull file." Fuck me, I thought it was just us.
Left me shocked too. Fucking accurate.
geez, my shop teacher actually had us do stuff. Not entirely sure I'll ever forgive him for tricking me into melting my Styrofoam plane with spray paint (it left a green stain on the welding room floor) but we made at least 4 projects in 2 years
Thomas Blithe Really? We did 3 in half a year. A small hammer, a hobby clamp and a stool.
+Franklin Clinton the projects were pens, co2 planes, tenderizer hammer, and a clock. we spent the rest of the time screwing around in autocad
Wow only 3 in half a year?
In like 2 Months i had at least 4 projects....
That's actually one of the first things we learned in trade school was how to sharpen drills by hand. They had a bin of "chowdered" drills. You had to take one, sharpen it, drill a hole in some scrap, and turn them both in. FFW about 20 years, I work in a machine shop with all the latest gadgets and cutting-edge tooling and technology. Know what happens when you have to have a particular drill and some dumb fuck chowdered the last one, didn't order any, and put it back in the drawer? You sharpen it by hand. Word to the wise: DRILL A TEST HOLE FIRST!. If you don't grind it right, it will drill oversize.
Exactly. I call it "welcome to the real world".
I used to work an Acme Gridley multi-spindle screw machine. To get the right hole size, we'd grind a drill bit slightly off exactly for that reason. You might need a couple of extra thou' and that would just do it.
Would like a focus you fuck t-shirt
i too
It's about time AvE embraced the very evident demand for such a garment that exists among his many admirers and got a good stock of these, say 36 dozen kilopubes worth-so, how about it?
he did, got mine since a few months
djteac Yea, but i think it was a limited run thing because there not on his store
OMG!! That is an awesome idea....would look as good as my "My Mother Thinks I'm Advertiser Friendly" PhillyD shirt my daughter got me for Christmas!
Are you telling me I went to four years of Drill Medical School for nothing?
hahaha
only a masters? you sir are no drill doctor
A little angry in this one. I like it!
I picked up on that as well. I enjoyed it :)
+AvE you gotta give some people a barb every once in a while
***** those "goofs" coulda been plants from the manufacturer. messagebaords all over the web are full of such mercenaries
***** Makes for some "quality" entertainment for the rest of us, no apologies necessary.
***** yeah, they'll have to wait. seems there's a brouhaha going on in Monterrey right now and our drivers aren't the type to cross rifle lines
tighten until you hear a crack, then back a quarter turn....
that is the funniest shit I've heard ahaha
Same as backin up a car or truck. Back up till it sound expensive, then say fuck and pull ahead and inch. Job well done.
I spew'd when he said that too funny.
friend of mine say that every time he hits the dock hard!!
Chevy 454 he is missing 1 EXTREMELY NECESSARY for success... While tightening the fastener you need to pray to your preferred god/goddess/higher power that you believe in that the Crack you hear will be caused by the unloading up the twisting force that was building up in the metal of the bolt.
Funny because it’s fuckin’ true. We’ve all done it, haha!!!
That was no tutorial but a highly entertaining rant!
I would allow that drill doc not even in a machineshop. Squeaky plastic thing. A propper drill sharpening machine is great but that means in my book a floor standing 1000pound piece of machinery that works.
Man your vids are some of the best. I bought a drill doctor a long time back and maybe used 10 to 15 times then put it on the shelf where it still sits collecting shop dust. Went back to hand grinding all my bits. Just works quicker and better for me. Keep up the awesome informative vids.
Just found your videos. Little late to the game,but I'll chime in anyway. I have sharpened a drill bit with a belt sander because that's all I had. If you travel you can't take the whole shop. Problem solving is getting it done with what you have.
If I am doing a shut down, I am bringing in new drill bits by the gross. You can also use a chop saw with an abrasive blade to sharpen bits. I learned how to sharpen bits as a hired electrical hack under contract for Proctor & Gamble at a laxative factory. They sold trainloads of that stuff to Australia. Them Aussies must be really constipated. What they did not send down under got made into Metamucil. When they made batches of the orange stuff, it stained my contact lenses orange. Nothing like having that liver disease look in your eyes!
It's a generational thing. All our old people are 100% absofacklutely convinced that they will die of cancer of arse explosion, idk, if they are the slightest bit "irregular". Whatever that means. Me, I take metamucil to _stop_ shitting. I had me gallbladder out in diddly 3. And since then I'm lucky if I have 2 consecutive solid shits a year. But metamucil makes it less like battery acid. Apparently it's one of the many charming side effects of a gallbladder removal my surgeon or doctor didn't think it was a good idea to tell me about. And I worked that out myself after seeing the same fucks for "irritable bowel" for more than a decade. Still, I suppose it's better than the feeling you get when passing a gallstone, which is akin to having a 2 by 4 hammered through your chest 3 inches right of your solar plexus...
yup used to work for a tight wad who wouldnt buy a grinder used disc sander to sharpen drills and split points or thin web...theres shops in area now that throw away all drills when dull end mills also millinials..are wimps
3 years late to the party but not only are we all constipated we also love your orange Metamucil.
If you're out in the middle of nowhere, a good file goes a long way on a dull bit.
Jeez
Been doing it this way for years. . usually with a flap disk or some other improper disk. works like a champ
Nice. Same way my shop teacher did it. He spent a whole class teaching us how to do this - it was about the only worthwhile thing I learned in school. Thanks, Mr. D.
"Tight until you hear the crack,.......back a quarter turn."
Dude, you are reestablishing my faith in humanity one youtube vidjizz at a time.
Thanks AVE, I only watched this video last week. Today in work I snapped my good 10mm HSS and the only other one I had was so blunt it couldn't melt its way through PVC, let alone cut through steel. The only thing I had handy was my grinder and I was able to get a fairly decent edge on the old bit, enough to get the job done. Saved me a headache, nice one.
That drills lost its balls I like the ones that try to break your wrist when they lock up 😊
That's funny as hell cause I'm living proof the old 1/2 drill motors will surely break your wrist in many places!!!!!! Respected them much more for rest of my life!
I got rid of that one at my work.
1/2" Makita drill with enough torque to twist your wrist off.
I love the way you "encourage" your tools to behave. I do it exactly the same way!
I've never seen a machinist use a Drill Doctor. I have seen them use disk sanders a thousand times. Only time we sent them out was for the custom bits we had which had 2 or more diameters. Used for manufacturing; i.e., drilling through both walls of a tubular steel component with a tool and fastener head clearance hole on one wall and the thru hole on the opposite wall.
"right off the bat the drill bit's never gonna be dull, it's gonna be chowdered right to fuck" you're my spirit animal.
I have never posted a comment on youtube in my life but this was such an informative and hugely entertaining film I had to break my silence. Great system for getting you out of a muddle and funny, funny, funny. This is how the people I work with get by. many thanks
Did you just say your blue-eyed bearded patriarch in the sky is better than my brown-eyed bearded patriarch in the sky?
He's accent is one of the best on the TH-cam! I like it :) Too cool to be true :)
BMR Studio Just sounds like a fellow Canadyun to me. I don't hear an accent.
Fracture must be with the Red Green sign off
His humor is fantastic.
Ha Ha
You are now my new hero. You are real, legit, straight forward and blunt! Just the way it should be. Keep up the great work!
"When all you've got is a hammer, things start lookin' like nails." LOVE IT! lol
Everything starts lookin like a nail*
Not just things, _everyrhing_
Lol
I just tried this with a really dull 1/2 inch 2 foot long. Your method worked like a charm.
Ha. Did that many a time by pinning the makita with one foot and prepping to run with the other. "In the woods special grind" we used to call it. :-)
Precisely. I grind bits in the field the same way: grinder on the ground, boot on the grinder, squat and squint like a Metalworker in Mumbai. Works every time.
I run mine with the guard on, so I can hold the entire thing against the ground. runs at a weird angle but I'm used to it now. jobs a gudjen
Hi AvE, Yes in deedy, I took my 4 year formal Machinist Apprenticeship at Jorgensen Steel in Seattle Washington. One of the first things we had to do was sharpen a 3" drill off hand on a pedestal grinder. I know, and, you probably know that by orienting the cutting lip just slightly up at the periphery, will properly orient the chisel point. Drill nomenclature. You can of course use a drill pointer gage, 59 degrees or 118 deg. included angle, for most bits. I am a sub to both you and The Post Apocalyptic Inventor. Your funny, but right on. If the chip comes out even your good on the lips, one side and their off. Obviously to much relief and the cutting edge will not hold up. Milling the potato was some funny sh*t. Happy Summer, be good, C.
Supposing your 80 pound buddy is over 80 pounds and thus out of spec? Take out the excess tonnage with a hole saw much like a core sample. Easy as pie.
Well done! I've been using my bench grinder to sharpen drill bids for years. Never had a problem.
"Tighten till you hear the crack, back a quarter turn" had me laughing for 5 minutes. Love this guy.
This video made my day. Your common sense approach with comedy is awesome.
🤣🤣
That's how my broke ass sharpens bits.... I'm so poor I can't even afford to pay attention.
I'm so poor I walk down the street on one shoe, when people ask me if I lost a shoe, I tell them: "No, I found one"
damm man your one badass dude love watching your videos stopped me from buying a drill doctor no clean holes but it made my crappy bits work longer never stop these vids please your expert advise helps us beginners a shit load
"When all you have is a hammer, things start lookin' like nails". LOVE this! hahaha
You grind em exactly like I do; light cutting edge grind and a delicate roll off the back to put tool relief on it. Don't mash the tip into the grind; don't heat it up and ruin the temper. Leave enough meat to get an aggressive cut on most materials. Excellent presentation.
My dad maintained his bits with a grinding stone liberally smothered in patience and experience. He got it done.
Lectreacle doodads and _"tool grade plastic"_ be damned!
Ain't nobody got minutes for nothing these days :-(
I appreciate the quick lesson on sharpening using a grinder.
So much hate in the drill dr. I'm thinking the simplicity is too complicated for some. My dad gave me a drill dr 500x several years back. Finally decided to see if it's worth a damn.
Can't just go up to a grinding stone but it only takes a minute or so, if that to sharpen a bit perfectly in the drill dr.
It may not be something someone is brave enough to bring to a jobsite, but suits a typical homeowner very well.
stupid fuckin comments are the fuel that keep the youtube servers on
great vid, i laughed quite a bit
Your channel aspired my 35 y/o butt to take up Machine, Welding and Industrial Mechanics night classes herr at my local institution. That bit (no pun intended) about the instructor looking up videos on TH-cam for the next lesson while we sharpen 30 year old 1 inch industrial drill bits was spot on.
“Carnivorous beetles flying in your ear”... 😂
Best channel on TH-cam. Never change. Keep it colorful.
I was working on a Methane storage site, and the con brought in a drill doc for us to use.. Apparently USA made drill bits that tended to shatter with the first hole because there too hard for 1/4 mild steel cost so much it was "a sound investment"..
So when the boss was not looking I used the bench grinder he bought to deburr unistrut (why the fack) to keep my busted drills workin.. Good vid
Love that comment about filling steel block square with dull file, did not mention crap hacksaw blades. I took my own file hacksaw blades, and lathe tools to Technical college. Also lost 2 stone in weight working in Iran for 6 week living on rice a grisly lamb. Love the humour.
These vids are fucking hilarious! When I get a few extra bucks I will be sure to throw it in the hat, Keep up the awesome content!
Oh yea, what are you going to do for 100k? You will be there in no time, maybe a party? Lol
I dont know what I like more, the chatter or the lesson. But sub'ed for both. Favorite- 85 lb Philippino friend
The good old Sears drill sharpening jig will do the job fast and perfect. Screw it down to your work bench and sharpen all the drill bits you can find just right. Thanks for the video. So you offended a cult did you? Better start looking under the bed at night.
I was a track welder on a small railroad in northern Minnesota. One of the things I did was sharpen drill bits for drilling the web of railroad rail. This is carbon steel and nothing to trifle with. The methods in this video mirrored perfectly my situation in the field...although I did have a trigger lock on my grinders. The occupational language was very similar, as were the mosquitoes (and the cold in the winter). Granted, this is not first-line machinist method maybe, but it is what works when you have to get those bolt holes drilled so you can put the track back together, before the ore train comes...and the old man does not want you to stop the damned train because of a bolt hole.
What the heck is that contraption he is building with two brake discs (rotors) on the bench?
'F' the drill sharpening, most of us know how to do that by now.
Thanks for the lesson! My very first attempt at sharpening a bit by hand turned a POS bit into a decent hole maker!
i used to sharpen twist drills for a living and can tell you it is an art. That being said unless you know what in the sam hell your doing a drill doc will seem like a joke. However as the ladies say its not the size its the.....? Well clearly i wasn't listening. If you take time and actually learn it. It will produce great results. You don't even get the off center tip speed wobble that a bench grinder is sure to provide.
Had a sideways look at the drill doctor for years and thought it was crap. Been using a petrol disc cutter to grind my paving chisels since I was a kid. Good man keep up the good work
Subscribed. This is one guy I could work with. Knows his subject and doesn't believe in bull shit. Also, very funny. My be a pleausre to work with. Bench marked against the "Plastic Drill Dr sharpener" brigade who believes in, "If you can't brainwash them with science;baffle them with bullshit".
I was just about in tears from this one, the lingo is just priceless. Keep it up, man!
A $160 single-purpose piece of shit, vs a $160 grinder that can be used for all sorts of shit. Which, pray tell, smells like a better deal?
Lord Skitch But with a drill doctor, any monkey can sharpen a drill bit to a reasonable sharpness. With a grinder, you have to know what you're doing. But if you know what you're doing, the drill doctor is useless.
February I think it's got more to do with buying a single use tool as a way to not spend the time to learn how to do it correctly. And, in the process, screw yourself out of a good skill to have.
'Tis no bueno to spend your life cutting corners. Even with the Drill Doc, I imagine the first handful of drill bits come away either god awful or a quarter inch shorter. With a bench grinder, or even a field-expedient crazy Cannuck contraption in a vise, the same thing's gonna happen, but once you've got it down, you don't have to have a special tool to get the job done.
February Au contraire. At the shop I used to work at, the owner had his primate of a son convert most of our dull, but functional drill bits into useless bits of steel using a DrillDr. I am no master hand sharpener, but after trying the Drill Dr my self, I found that it prevented getting good grinds more often than it allowed them. Also it has enough wobble in the holder that grinds are seldom uniform from one flute to the next. Freehanding on a bench sander was honestly easier.
Pretty much all I do is drill stainless. While I'm pretty good at doing them on the grinder, I got a drill doctor and like it.
1: I use very expensive drill bits that are worth resharpening. Even smaller ones.
2: Buying new drill bits takes money and time (more money).
3: While I can hand sharpen beautiful 6 facet drills, it takes a lot of time (much more money). The drill dr is quicker. And I have to resharpen an awful lot.
4: The drill docktor is more reliable than old shakey here from day to day.
5: While busting out a bit on the grinder is quick, the flutes will not be even nor will the relief angle be right. While having the relief right is not that important for machine drilling, it really helps having it where you want it to be for hand drilling. 'course if you're drilling with uneven cutters, your going to be oversized and likely bell-mouthed.
6: The next best thing costs $2000.
That said the split point function is a bit of a joke. You want to go back to the grinder for those. And if you have a serious chunk out of the drill you'll want to rough it out on the grinder and finish it on the dr, since it has such a weak, slow grinder built in. I also got it with the idea that others in the shop could use it to sharpen bits because they can't do it on the grinder, but unfortunately that hasn't actually happened. Must be a life lesson there.
It's easy to bad mouth the drill dr; any dummy can do that with a casual glance. Much harder to figure it out and see what it's actually for so you can properly criticize it.
***** If they simply had a few sizes of collets which were tight enough fitting (even lathed zamac would be fine) to actually hold small bits concentric, or put a unifor chisel onto a big bit, I would love the thing. I had a boss who expected inhumanly perfect tolerances from a pair of wobbly chinese drill presses. He could "see" from across the shop floor that one plate in a stack of 20 had a hole that was 1/128th off on cross square. My micrometer eye was never so sharp. Unfortunately,he couldn't see that his presses wandered by almost 0.125", that his stanley brand squares he expected us to do layout with would leave almost 0.25" gap if you put two of them together, that his level would give different readings by 5/16" if you swapped ends... So having a drill bit that was true enough to give a chance of a hole near the center mark would have made life a lot easier.
I've had to do this so many times out in the middle of nowhere with a limited set of tools to work with. The 1/8" cutting disks work the best because they're gentle. If you're really brave you can relieve the web quite easily with the cutting edge of the disk too.
Where do I find an 80 pound philipino buddy?
I just assumed he meant 800
lol
The Philippines
+Riley Goss Precisely.
Alibaba. But they will be Chinese made
just found your channel it's really enjoyable infotainment. love your comments I'm sitting here laughing in my work truck and people looking at me like I'm nuts, little do they know!
Thanks for your experienced engineering tip, to tighten the angle grinder up in the vice until, “you hear the crack, then wind it back a ¼ turn.”
I laughed so hard I passed a little bit of wee..
Keep your stick on the ice..
Great come back. No bull, great verification of what you accomplished.
browsing through the comments. no angry replies with threats of unsubscribing. very disappointed. unsubbed.
I think your videos are great! I have been doing service work for about 40 years in the printing industry and its amazing how you need to improvise in the field. Some places your lucky they have a bench vise. Sound like you may also might be into flying.
I see anger management in your future. Small blue pills and deep breathing exercises.HAHA Love it man keep the fire in your belly !
Jeff Barr arent the small blue pills, viagra?
Zoloft. Allegedly it helps bored housewives cope with the stresses of going to Target for milk and socks at the same time.
there are wives that shop and cook?
They all shop.......or more accurately buy, You know you needed that $20 bag of potpourri .
I'm pretty sure he already takes the little blue pills, at least when he flies the friendly skies.
your art bit is brilliant. I spent some time at one of the fancier fine art schools in the US and the most important thing I learned is " if you can't make it good make it big, if you can't make it big make it red". People pay $100k+ for that knowledge and you just figured it out yourself.
Still someone left a thumbs down. You can't please everyone unless you carry a big stick. Great vijayo.
I've been in metal working going over 10 years so in some old F'ers eyes I'm still new. But, I was taught how to sharpen a drill the same manner you used here but not with a damn angle grinder. Now I know how to sharpen my drills at home! I knew there was a trick to learn here only a seasoned ol boy such as yourself could teach. Thank you.
6:27 what you're all here for :)
You read my mind
Well, I didn't notice any off-center chatter, and the drill cut an impressive hole. Congratulations and thank you. I expect to discard a lot of my broken drills after practicing your technique.
you sure know alot of idioms
+AvE annnnnnd subscribed
Yes he does and it is spelt idiots.
You should be getting an award or two. Really nice channel you got here
your grinder doesn't have a guard on it.
That's the ONLY unsafe thing in this video :p
EvilPlagueDoctor What's a guard? Is that the bent cup holder that comes in the box with the grinder?
EvilPlagueDoctor I know tools are expensive these days, but paying a rentacop to guard your grinder seems a bit ridiculous
+jgilk1 my dad told one of his workers not to run the grinder without the guard. he did it anyway. the disk shattered and slit his throat. killed him on the spot. just 20 years old.
+jgilk1 my dad told one of his workers not to run the grinder without the guard. he did it anyway. the disk shattered and slit his throat. killed him on the spot. just 20 years old.
+jgilk1 my dad told one of his workers not to run the grinder without the guard. he did it anyway. the disk shattered and slit his throat. he died. just 20 years old.
enjoy your vids. as wrecktrician since 77 I detect no errors. Well done.
Give me a bench grinder ANY day to sharpen drills! :)
* sometimes you _may_ have to improvise re: bench grinders...
Never heard of that one, I'll give it a try. Cheers
Learned how to sharpen bits from an old mechanic who hated buying new tools. He would even sharpen down to 1/8 inch. I'm still not as good at it as he was but the skill has gotten me out of a pickle a few times. Like when I needed to drill a 3/4 hole with only 3 inches of work space. A right angle drill and a cut down bit with about half a twist left did the trick.
My drill doc works great, I use it to sharpen my tig tungstens. I get some really great points on them.
The Texas Gun Guy I like that idea.... I'll try it this weekend......
The Texas Gun Guy split points, even?
The Texas Gun Guy a drill and a grinder works the best for that
i have sharpened many a drill bit on a job this way and see no problem with it. It's an effective way to keep working. I have sharpened small bits with an air die grinder with a cut off wheel.
thanks for the info. I didn't even know I could sharpen bits.
also made me laugh a few times.
"focus you ****!"
haha
i hear ya bout 1980's machine shop with a dull file,filing the block square!The teacher could take a tool steel lathe bit,and whitle out a perfect fishtail cutter.Sadly i'll never be that good,lol.Power to the inserts.cool video man!
"Not Gonna be dull, it's gonna be Chowderd right to fuck!" hahaha
"But that's just aluminum! Fuckin' bullshit!" I've binge watched a ton of your videos for about two weeks now and this channel is amazing.
Our company safety man would s@#t a brick.....
That’s what a diet of clay and hot sauce will do to ya. Not recommended.
Just recently stumbled upon your channel, and I have since watched the majority of your past videos. Great content, and great commentary. I look forward to seeing more videos from your channel in my TH-cam feed.
As a fellow Canadian I've gotta ask . From your oil change video with your view I take you live in left coast B.C.?
No one talks like he does here in Vancouver. Hes either gotta be from ontario or a newfie
Sounds like a Manitoba accent to me.
He's from interior bc
he did say tabarnak in one of is videos so maybe Quebec or Ontario
He speaks French ighinkmhr live in Vancouver area cuz he went sturgeon fishing
I inherited a drill doctor and can actually get pretty good results w/ it on smaller drill bits. My eyes aren't too good anymore so the small ones are tough for me to get centered. It does take a little practice to get it down though. The larger ones like the HF silver and demings I do pretty well manually on the grinder and belt sander though.
in the UK we get our drill doctors free on the NHS
***** It's the fact that you have to wait 2 years and they will only sharpen your bit once that gets you.
I have definitely used a grinder and cutoff wheel in the field plenty of times! Quick edit/hint- when you are about to come through the back of the metal just back off on the pressure until you are barely pulling little chips instead of biting a thick curly chip. Then it will pop through without trying to break your wrist or drillbit.
"Go find a stranger in the Alps"??
What?
Oh-Canada! You're-sayings-are-so-strange
Google it.
I can't count how many videos of yours that I've watched but everytime I hear you say focus you fuck it still gets me everytime..... Keep em coming! 👍👍
I do'nt give a shit about sharpening drill bits I just want to here this guy talk.
Old drill bits are a great source of pins of unusual sizes.
Once, and only once did I succeed in sharpening a drill bit that looked as good as "used but still cutting".
5:50 He says really aluminium. Whooo!
Plus Dave Jones
I almost broke my monitor because of your fly
you're a riot. For some reason I get the impression you talk to yourself in the shop like this regardless of if the camera is on or not
Lol, "ART" bin.
I have to remember that.
Nice description AVE.
I broke 5 drill bits today. There was no saving them by sharpening. Thanks CamTrash for the ..... quality drill bits.
an 80lb Filipino buddy Lmfao.
Not too bad for a flappy headed candian buddy. Keep them coming. Field work is truly an art.
H8trs gonna H8. It nice to see that your tools require verbal motivation.
When I started technical college for Manufacturing Technology the first thing you were taught was sharpening a drill. Not kind of, not sort of close, but a proper sharpening where the drill would drill the hole the size of the drill. The instructor would hand you a 5/8" drill with the tip flattened and you had to put a 118°, equal-length, equal-angled tip back on it with a bench grinder. I believe the course was designed to do this first lesson to eliminate those who didn't want to learn. I have an early Darex grinder that does an OK job but when I need to taylor the drill to a specific job I hand grind them. It's faster than the machine and just as accurate AND I can grind chip breakers to what ever extent I need…. Split-points? No problem! Take a 118° drill and put a 135° tip on it, no problem.
Grinding drills should be a Manly-Man skill…..