EdgeRouter X Complete Setup with Starlink
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- Looking to add a 3rd party router to your Starlink satellite dish? The Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X (model ER-X) is a great place to start! In this video, I do a complete setup of an ER-X with Starlink including setup of the WAN and LAN plus a static route so that you can see your Starlink statistics and use the Starlink app.
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Thank you Chris, a wealth of information from you and your channel and I have learned so much about practical networking.
I just ordered the EdgeRouter X with SPF, excited for if to arrive so I can set it up and geekout!
Thank you. so much for this. I’m crazy and balancing Centurylink, TMobile as I test out starlink and set them up as gateways I can switch to using edgerouterx. Love this unit.
Glad he got this video out. I have a ship date for my Starlink for the same date we plan to move out of town. I just got my Dream Machine today and 3 WiFi 6 APs should be here next week. I plan on having wifi at both ends of the house, the shop, and an outbuilding shed near RV parking. I can see the road with 1Gbps fiber but no way to get it to my new place. The local WISPs are bad and I have worked at good ones so I know the difference. It is also nice I work from home and also the fact that last year taught everyone that working from home is a real thing. Hopefully, I can convince my Dad who lives in the mountains to ditch Husenet and get Starlink soon.
Hey Chris, I also use the same DNS server that you use here and even in the same order. A big fan of the Crosstalk Solutions channel. Many things of the channel material I’ve already have the knowledge, but not everything you cover on it and find your way of explaining and implementing Hardware very interesting and complete. Greetings from Buenos Aires, Argentina 🇦🇷.-
Cheers - thanks Agustin!
thanks Chris, will be using this as a guide if/when i get starlink for myself
What a great "How To" video :) Greatly appreciated.
Hi Chris! You should create a video on setting up IPv6 with the EdgeRouter X on StarLink. This gets even more important since they are using CGNAT to implement IPv4. Thanks for the video!
Also a great idea. Were you able to get IPv6 working on the Starlink router?
@@JeffreyGroves Unfortunately i didn’t get to buy me an StarLink Kit because of an local ISP upgraded our cable Internet to Gigabit speeds and StarLink would be way more expensive to get and keep (monthly fee). I’m living in Germany, Internet Access usually isn’t that expensive as it is in the US, so StarLink is super expensive in our eyes.
@@danielrippen IPv6 isn't supported on Starlink as per their website, its coming on future versions
Great video
Watching from South Africa
Thumbs up Chris this was very informative.
Chris you could do Load-Balancing or Load-Balancing with failover becouse for most users in Europe will need Starlink as a backup line or to speedup connection
I was just going to ask for this too! Thanks for getting this request out there a day earlier than I would have!
I attempted this by following the Ubiquity directions on their web site, but ran into at least two issues:
1) Both my cable service's modem and Starlink router both use 192.168.100.1
2) My cable modem's service uses DHCPv6 while Starlink does not yet.
@@JeffreyGroves try this…… th-cam.com/video/2mdXKoRm34c/w-d-xo.html
Great stuff thanks for sharing
Love the videos! I would really like to see the config of how you brought your Starlink connection over that switch port! Thanks!
This is a great video.
I am waiting for Starlink to be available at my main area where I want to deploy it, but for longer work trips etc where I'd want to bring Starlink along, I will pair it with a Ubiquiti DreamMachine to have a whole Unifi Network in a single cylinder that can function on its own, or be expanded with further IPs etc.
Thanks for the video.
Like ubiquiti, but when it comes to routers I like mikrotik.
Awesome, thanks!
Edgerouter X is still my favourite router from ubiquiti. Such a great little device. Using it myself.
Very useful!
To get full starlink speed you need to run the commands below to enable hardware offloading on an edgerouter X
ssh into router
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configure
set system offload hwnat enable
set system offload ipsec enable
commit
save
Amazing vid... Would love a vid with the edge router adding access points and using the unifi app as well... Imma network noob and im saving this vid for sure but def need help with the set up i will be attempting soon.
Great video Chris. I just subscribed to your channel. I was wondering if you have a video with Starlink as the primary ISP and a wireless LTE connection as a failover on the Edgerouter x. I’m just wondering what additional steps I might have to take to add that device in as a back up.
Thanks Chris :)
Excellent
Great vid! What about setting up as a failover on the udm pro?
It’s a pritty expensive failover but yes it can be done have the UDM pro and Starlink and it is possible
As always amazing video....Thanks
Can you connect the edge router directly to the Starling Poe inyector or you have to connect it to the Aux port of the Starlink router?
Thanks!
Hi Chris nice video, I have an Edgerouter X in my home network but I wanna connect 2 WANs to it as failover how do I do that? Please help, I have tried but it doesn't seem to work!
Thanks for doing this video. I'm looking at the EdgeRouter X for a dual wan solution between Starlink and my local DSL ISP. I've already got a Unifi UDM, and I have a few questions.
1. Can the ERX use the "controller" from the UDM?
2. Will the Unifi Teleport VPN still work even though Starlink is using CGNAT?
Any chance you could do a video on a Starlink/local ISP dual WAN setup, if you haven't already?
Wow this comes up as my coworker was thinking about Starlink for at camp. I am thinking of getting this router and a couple UAP-FlexHD-US to set them out outdoors. I was considering the all POE version of this router so I don't have to use the injector. What do you think?
Could you use that static route as a network hop for a wireguard vpn?
Tip for beginners, use Eth-4 for WAN, use Eth-0 for LAN so now you can power the ER with PoE from your PoE network switch. The plug-pack can still be used for redundant power. Having ability to feed PoE up port 4 to a wireless radio for those on Fixed Wireless services. The real part missed here is a clear statement, these are routers, not firewalls. You have very little security. Should have just used a USG3 instead.
What would the USG protect against that the default firewall does not? See the screen at 03:24 where the WAN+2LAN2 wizard had "use default firewall" checked by default. This blocks any incoming traffic to either the router itself, or the LAN behind the router. I am not saying the USG is bad, but as long as a user uses the WAN+2LAN2 wizard, and doesn't open up ports with port forwarding, the only traffic allowed from the internet will be established traffic.
the Er-X is Poe passtrough so you can't use the the plug-pack for that, it will only power the router itself.
@@tortue71 Plug-pack will keep the router alive none-the-less, keeps logs.
@@jonpinkley2844 Sorry for delay, YT only notifying me now of your reply...
Grey area here but I see people putting in Routers as Firewalls just like old Cisco's. Block everything from WAN is fine, but not much good if everything on the inside gets out making tunnels. Only need one naughty client inside to open the gates. Same with the love of people with Mikrotiks and other small-board systems, if you want a strong defense, you need balls (hardware), that simple.
A good educator is say something like a Firewall UTM distro like Endian Community setup in transparent mode, put it behind your "Router/Firewall" and watcht eh traffic, you will be amazed how much crap comes flying through.
I think that once Starlink Broadband is installed it is best to leave it as is unless you are moving home to a new address and then you must notify Starlink that you are moving to a new address as well as the address to where you are moving.
Chris, how can you monitor how much data/bandwidth a port on the edge router x is using? Connecting my work computer but need to measure its usage.
I have an ER-X and wondering why it won't power up with PoE from USW Pro 24PoE?
Perhaps it needs more power from a different port?
Thanks for the video. Doesn't seem to work using usg pro 4. Setup static route but still can't access starlink at 192.168.100.1
Thanks for this vid Chris! One question: Can Starlink be set up in bridge mode to avoid double NAT?
No it can not - the Starlink CGNAT prevents any sort of bridge mode or port forwarding.
Thank you for the information. Question - do you have to go to StarLink app to "bypass StarLink Router" for this set up to work? Note: I also have a Unifi/Ubiquiti wireless access point set up with my system, plugged in after the EdgeRouter X. I did and it all seems to be working but just wondering if I had to do that.
Very good video. One question, can I fully get rid of the Starlink Router by installing this EdgeRouter X and activating the Bridge Mode?
Hi Chris, I find when I used the described routing I lose VOIP service on my desk phone. Ever run into this?
Can I hook up 3 long range AP’s to my existing Netgear Nighthawk x10 wifi router?
@ crosstalk solutions. I’m trying to setup ddns on my edge router x and when I save and check the configs it says other insted of eth0 and I have tryed setting it up over 50 times and it does the same thing so I’m wondering how do I fix it
Hi, i have edgerouter x with firmware 2.09. I use wan 1 and wan 2. Normal speed in wan 2 is 200mbit of download and 20 of upload. With my ubiquiti router the speed came limited to 60/70 mbit in download, why ?
I have enabled/disabled ipsec and hwnat but the problem is always the same.
Thanks a lot for the help.
Would you still recommend Edge Router X in 2022 for gigabit speeds and a couple of APs? Thank you.
chris the same procedure to open the port eth1, eth 2, eth 3, eth 4 after open the port eth 0
Some Cable modems (my last few Motorola modems) also use 192.168.100.1 to access management / diagnostics / statistics pages
As well as my Netgear CM600
Would this Router work well for a small 8 IP Camera network that uses a Cloud NVR platform?
Can you use the same setup with the UDM Pro?
The way that Starlink do DHCP from the dish can cause this static route to fail in some situations. I've found it's more reliable to create a pseduo ethernet interface on the edge-router and set this to have an IP on the 192.168.100.0/24 subnet.
On an edgerouter you can do this with:
set interfaces pseudo-ethernet peth0 address 192.168.100.101/24
set interfaces pseudo-ethernet peth0 link eth0
set interfaces pseudo-ethernet peth0 mac 00:02:03:04:05:06
This then doesn't have the issue that it goes down if you loose satellite connectivity
^ important note.
Is the mac address in the third command specific for your own EdgeRouter?
@@sitwalkstand no, is one random MAC that you assign to the pseudo-ethernet, just make sure is not equal to one of your connected devices.
@@sitwalkstand No. It can be any MAC address you want that will be used for the pseudo ethernet interface (it just needs to be a unique address). The one I used above is the one that used in Ubiquiti documentation
So the new static should be:
set protocols static interface-route 192.168.100.101/32 next-hop-interface peth0 description 'Starlink'
If I'm wrong, pls correct me.
hi chris are you using the starlink router?
because when i take the starlink router out i cant seem to connect to the internet with just the edgerouter x
Can you still use the Starlink app for speedtests, stow, obstructions and statistics remotely? I would assume that the SL router would be needed in bypass mode, correct?
Can you power dishy poe thru the edge router ?
Can this work as a reliable firewall for a small site with a UDM-Pro?
Chris, I’m new to Unifi. Can you do a quick video setting up the static route on a UDM to get the Starlink statistics?
I got it! Your directs worked for my UDM!
Hello, i have already EdgeRouter X with 1 ISP(static public IP assigned to Eth0). Now I've got Starlink and would like to configure it as secondary ISP as backup link when primary ISP will be down i want router to be providing internet via Starlink. And when main wired ISP is UP for EdgeRouter to switch from Starlink to main ISP. Basically i want to configure redundant internet for my office.
Is there any videos which you could recommend to get this setup working?
Is there a way to avoid this double NAT?
#protip To access Windows 10 "Network Connections" control panel, open run and type "ncpa.cpl" and boom no more stupid jumping through Win10 settings menus to get there! Works on Windows Server as well.
would you buy/use ut now even that they are no longer updating?
All working good except the static route drops out if the DHCP resets (At least that's what my searching suggests). I have found some scripts to set pseudo-ethernet interfaces but I can't get the shell to recognise commands such as set, commit or save. Do you have any hints of how to get the static route to reset?
Has worked solidly for 72 hours. I have been warned on the Ubiquiti community thread that peth0 may require improved firewall settings. Caveat Emptor.
My experience has been the Starlink dish will, after some time, stop connecting to the satellite network if used without the OEM modem/router.
It took a few days to a few weeks for this to occur, and restarts did not resolve the issue.
Swapping out the OEM modem/router for an hour or two resolved the issue for me a dozen times or so before I gave up and left it in.
I suspect either; the Starlink modem/router is occasionally needed to update the dish's software/firmware, or there are some kind of security measures in place related to this.
How long have you been running your dish like this?
I have this issue, and I've read of many other people as well. I was hoping this video would address it. I lose connection after a few hours or a day. Basically, what I've read is that when Starlink is switching satellites, it temporarily gives an address to your router of 192.168.100.x, with a DHCP expiration of 5 seconds. The router is SUPPOSED to wait 5 seconds, then refresh DHCP, and get a new IP address from the dish. For whatever reason, it seems that many routers are not expecting such a short DHCP expiration, and they end up not doing the refresh. So they are stuck with an IP that the dish doesn't like, and you get no internet. Unplugging the cable briefly then back in will make the router refresh, then all is well - until the next time. Very frustrating. I don't know if the 5 second refresh time does not meet DHCP spec, or if routers just aren't set to properly honor such a short refresh. I hope that it is resolved soon, though. I can't use the included router, because there is zero management of it, and I need to change the DNS server that is given to LAN DHCP clients. So I need a third-party router to be able to manage that.
@@brianash5096 hey guys, thanks for all this info; i've been trying to find a solution to this for months now. reboots of the erx just arent fixing it. Im hoping someone will see this and let us know more? D:
@Crosstalk Solutions: I'm wondering why do you need the route. eth0 is already the default gateway so pakages should already go to this interface. I think more that you need to disable the outbound nat for that desination or a firewall rule. Would be great to get some feedback what this route does.
I've been wondering the same thing.
Private ip addresses like 192.168.100.x are not normally routed by routers out the WAN. Routers know that they are private addresses, so they don't pass them out the WAN. So adding the static route forces the router to actually pass the packets out the WAN.
@@brianash5096 hi, then the rout should not change this. The packages should have been held back by a firewall rule.
Hi Chris,
I have StarLink going into the WAN of a DMP. When using the provided StarLink router before hitting the WAN the service works great. If I remove the StarLink router and come directly off the StarLink power supply into the DMP WAN, I have internet working for a while but after a few hours I lose all WAN connections and have to restart the DMP to get it back. Any suggestions? It has happened on many occasions when i try to bypass the router.
Having the same issue when connecting my router (Ubiquiti UDM-Pro) direct to the dish, bypassing the Starlink router. Do you find that leaving the Starlink router in place lets your router not have the issue? I hate having that extra device there, but if it makes my router keep connection, then I'll have to do it. The service is unusable with my router losing WAN connection every few hours.
@@brianash5096 I have found that leaving the Starlink Router in line stops the issue from happening. Any loss in connection at that point is just the starlink dish reconnecting to another satellite. I can't be 100% certain, but my feelings are the DMP doesn't like the WAN changing, which happens when the starlink service connects to a new downlink location. connecting through the router gives me a 192.x.x.x WAN but the DMP seems to stay happy. Please let me know if you come across any fix for this issue, I would really appreciate it.
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I've read that Starlink has added the static routing to the statistics page via DHCP Option 121. I'm not sure what that is or how to set it up on the EdgeRouter. Anyone have any insight or steps on how to set this up?
Unfortunately EdgeRouters do not support DHCP Option 121 out of the box. It is possible to add support by adding a custom script and some extra settings
@@OllieHayman Do you know of any tutorials or posts that point to how to setup these scripts/settings?
@@sitwalkstand If you search around the Ubiquiti forum there are some posts about setting this up.
One issue you will run across is that the script suggested in on the forums was taken from Debian and does not use the Edgerouter management for editing the route table. This can cause issues.
I have created a modified script that both uses vtysh and also removes routes when DHCP expires / disconnects to resolve some issues that the static routes are never cleaned up. You can find that here: gist.github.com/discorev/36b2ae7d170b6c1e8767ea990a7d68ff#file-rfc3442-classless-routes
Good luck!
@@OllieHayman Thanks for the help!
@Crosstalk Solutions Do I get any problems when I plug starlink into eth0? Without a switch in between. Since PoE arrives there and the EdgeRouterX on eth0 can PoE does that somehow break the EdgeRouter X?
Testing this unfortunately the Starlink power supply will not activate POE and power the ER-X. If you connect it to the Starlink power supply it will act just as a normal network connection and will not break the ER-X
@@OllieHayman ok thanks can you plug the starlink Router in eth4 there is PoE out ? maybe it will get power up😂
@@supergamer3186 Whilst this might be possible I would not advise it. I would say in almost all situations it's better to use either the included router, or the ER-X but not both.
The Starlink app requires access to the dish to show configuration tab including configuration for the router. If you add the Starlink router behind the ER-X, it will not be able to access the dish and so this will not appear in the App. This is why I would suggest one, or the other.
@@OllieHayman ok i will only use the edgerouter x anyway has a higher data transfer rate than the starlink router
Hi, the Edge-Router X use 24 passiv POE and the starlink use POE+ (48V). So you can not use the POE passthrough of the edge router x.
What you can do is use EdgeSwitch 8 150W which can deliver power for the edge max and the starlink.
I think its the same as chris has build. One vlan with two powerts for the starlink (one 24v for edge max x and one or starlink) and then you don't need the starlink poe block.
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42 is a good number it is the ultimate answer to life, the universe, and everything.
IPv6??
Im just leaving this for the voiceover on the default ip address! LOL
Surprised someone even noticed! I said ‘dot 2’ irl
Its the internet, we catch everything. I thought it was funny you though someone wouldnt catch it. Also, You typed a .2 in when you were trying to load gateway after you change the ip on the edge router x also. I catch the weirdest things.
Hmmm.. the Link you gave is just for the US for $ 59 …. Amazon takes twice as much but if you don’t live in the USA, you can’t get it for $59.
Ubiquiti is no longer including a power supply with the ER-X.
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Awesome video Chris! Perfect as I’ve had an X laying around for a while next to an Aircube thinking of doing something like this with Nanos as WiFi bridge... BUT now I’ve got a Starlink registered to Carson City, NV and plan to test the roam to Lake Tahoe this summer... close enough it should work on my Truck camper. Using an EcoFlow Delta to run stuff. Thanks for ALL the Starlink love. instagram.com/p/CNblcweB-QZ/?