Like how you make great melody even while playing fast. So many lose that when playing fast. They're fast but don't keep the Melody going but jeff you do and that's awesome
In terms of Neo Classical Metal and Progressive Metal we can mention that Jeff Loomis developed his phrasing in a level that just a few can reach, even his running are the next level of shredding
Bullshit. So many use the same phrasings. They have been around for so long and Jeff has taken it from his heroes and added his owm twist. You ppl project your own lack of creativity on everyone and then conclude that only a few like Jeff can be good. There's bedroom guitarists that play exactly the same way.
I've gotta learn this, I sucked at the Diminished scale, I want to master it like Jeff, Yngwie and Dime.🤘 The good thing is that I'm the master of the Wahwah whammy pedal...the best guitar effects ever!. covers a lot of my horrible vibrato and crappy soloing. Subscribed!🔥
@@АлександрЗыкин-ъ3в most of his bootleg and private lesson stuff. He does it perfectly but not much in Pantera, his solos are more based on Phyrigian dominant and pentatonic chromaticism. he's my friend, he always does it while were having some "Black label" sessions🍻
Big fan of Jeff Loomis and of course his legacy Nevermore. 4:56 if you really listen carefully it kinda sound like Born track from The Godless Endeavour. Thank you Jeff making beautiful music.
@@MsDavo123 you skipped rite over learning music theory . Anyone can go to school for theory. It’s then on you or whomever to put the hours in. I know it seems like magic to you. But it isn’t.
That was Jeff Loomis, Lead guitarist of progressive metal band "Nevermore" and also guitarist of melodic death metal band "Arch Enemy" ..thanks for watching🤘
For any confused theory students out there, this is not the “diminished scale” but a fragment of the “altered diminished scale” (with the b4 omitted). Not to be confused with the “altered scale”. But hey… we didn’t come here for a theory lesson, we came to hear some shred 🎸🤘🔥
Thank You to Jeff for taking the time to do this video/Demo/ Exercise whatever, and Thank You to Guitar Archives. I came here by accident or Devine Guitar God Intervention and Subscribed and of course I liked and filed under Guitar Instruction. Thank God (or whatever) for channels like yours for poor or Economically Challenged players like myself. I can't afford lessons, and I think I've had one in 43 years of playing (Floundering about).I am finally going to a Psychiatrist for A.D.H.D., O.C.D., & P.T.S.D. I think if I can concentrate better and overcome my afflictions, I can get through an hour a day of these great exercises and apply them to my daily practice.I play well considering, but I should be shredding Paganini, Mozart, Bach, & Sweep Arpeggios after 43 years. I just have learning disabilities and it sucks ass. Can anyone relate ? or am I alone here ? I'm not even kidding. I'll do a minute or two and just start drifting. Concentration just evaporates.If anyone has ever had any experience with this, and knows of someone that has had a miracle turnaround or you personally have found the right medication with meditation or whatever, let me know for f***s sake. I'm pretty damn good, but I want to go next level. Peace-
I completely get what you're saying! I've been playing 27 years, but it still feels like I don't actually know how to play...It's like I can't focus, concentrate, and absorb anything...My son has been playing 3 years, when it comes to lead work he can play circles around me...But he'll sit down with tab & keep at it for hours... Even back before arthritis and back pain...2 minutes into trying to learn a song or something and I just drift & end up doing something completely different...I can play the main riff from a hundred songs...but I only know a few all the way thru that I didn't write myself...& Even those I constantly change up...
@@louisstaehle4808 Exacta Mundo. Thank You so much for your reply Louis. It takes courage to put it out there like that and I salute you. At least I know I'm not alone here. I believe you may suffer from the same affliction as me. Adult Attention Deficit. Some of the smartest minds in history have dealt with the same thing. I (my Wife) have made an appointment with a Psych Doctor to see what we can do. I surrender. I'm willing to do what it takes to reach my potential as before, I have been highly against any Psychotropic drugs or medications. Gobley-gook. Happy Trails-
@@teriakamoto set a timer for 5 mins. Practice everything for 5 mins at all speeds (slow to fast) Then run everything and every sequence and position through the circle of 5ths in all 12 keys. 1,000-3,000 times. Boom mastered!
That's it Louis. Hit the nail on the head. Take the plunge and don't accept it. If you have insurance, see a specialist and get something to help you focus. You're worth it.
@@CMM5300 I really appreciate that Chris. The best advice I've ever gotten. That is just Music Theory 101 and great advice to anyone that is learning Guitar and want's to learn how to actually really play any genre or style. Thank You so much. I'm actually writing this down right now and going to follow it to the letter, by the numbers. Guitar Boot Camp.
Totally agree... the neck pickup sounds better on that kind of scales. I only use the neck pickup for solos, that's my personal taste. Nice and interesting video.
I never saw a need for the neck pup unless it's a single and you're using a strat tone. Or playing a strat or tele. I love inspiring teachers like this and comments
@@ericandrews1661 imo, the neck pup rounds out (even dulls) the frequencies in a way that EQ cannot easily do. Therefore, it's merely another ingredient in your arsenal (but certainly not required to shred). I also prefer the neck pup for complex clean passages (with most of the bass frequencies rolled off).
@BrianBergMusic I see what you're saying. I assume you mean that using double coils. I use the neck on strats and teles all the time but that seems like a whole different thing. I ask because I'm considering buying a soloist in either hh or ssh and I alright have several ssh guitars and not sure how I'd like a neck double. Thanks
@@ericandrews1661 The typical response would be "single coils for cleans and humbuckers for high gain". Generally, this advice is solid, but I'm occasionally surprised by how modern metal amps can take almost any pickup style and make it chug (if high gain is your game, which given this vid probably is the case). There's even a rising youTuber that prefers single coils for a brighter sounding chug for his setup. My 7 string is a very simple dual humbucker with no frills, if that helps give you more context. Sometimes I envy the tone of an 80s style amplifier for single coil leads -- it seems to have a distinct sound that is more organic and dare I say, 'dynamic' (Yngwei's tone, if you will). If you play more lead guitar than rhythm, single coils might be something you want to consider on that point alone. Try some out.
@BrianBergMusic I'm definitely more of a lead player than rhythm. I have one nice fender strat and bunch of teles and I enjoy them all on a few good Marshall amps. Nothing super high gain but more 80s. Which works good for me. The singles sound fine, just not quite as thick as doubles.
I was like “okay weird fingering in the first lick but that’s the diminished scale maybe he’s playing a melodic…” and he just started ripping it out I feel sad now
That's not exactly the diminished scale. The diminished scale is an octatonic scale with 8 notes. Harmonic major mode VII Is a good heptatonic diminished scale.
@@michaelhansen8959 right 2 notes are missing or something. I'd have to check again. I think he should of clarified it was most of the octatonic diminished scale. It could be really misleading to some people.
@@CMM5300 yhea, it's misleading. People always give different names to scales. It's confusing ass hell. Before I took theoretical lessons it confused me as hell. People think if there is a b5 in a chord or scale it's diminish haha. Jeff take a diminish traid, stacked b 3's and add two/passing color notes. But, it's better to approach our way. Mode 7 of harmonic maj or a broken octatonisch scale. With symmetry scales there's always more ways to approach it, because the have no real diatonic stability.
@@michaelhansen8959 I studied like 130 scales and modes. Yeah it's all very confusing. I started getting into scale/modes like harmonic minor b4 Harm min b5, Mel min b4, Mel min b5, mel min #5 Mel min #6 Then I started all the possible scale with 2 note alterations. Like Ionian #2 #6 (and it's modes) 1#2345#67 Then possible 3 note alterations. I was bored and I didn't know anyone who understood what I was charting out all over the fret board. I ended up giving up on it.
@@CMM5300 it will make you crazy, I know😉. Eventually you will down it to logical and simplify. If you understand diatonic, harmonics, basic and non basic resolution, passing notes, triads and chromatic you always find a harmony solution. Cheers bud
Jeff Loomis needs to be in a death metal band. At the very least simply record only band. I quite like the music part of Nevermore, I just can't get into that vocal style at all. And hey, they gave us Pat O'Brien of Cannibal Corpse. The best thing to happen to cannibal other than getting rid of Barnes.
If you are familiar with "River Dragon" "Opulent Maelstorm" "Enemies of Reality" "Sacristy", you will notice that Jeff uses Diminished feel from those songs as he play the solo parts🤘
"This Sacrament" guitar solo lesson by Jeff Loomis 🔥🎸🔥
👉th-cam.com/video/ioSRcpkhhk4/w-d-xo.html
Like how you make great melody even while playing fast. So many lose that when playing fast. They're fast but don't keep the Melody going but jeff you do and that's awesome
@@brianhartline7511 0
The real GOAT. Jeff Loomis is really not talked about as much as he should be.
I gotta look into this "Diminished" thing. Sounds pretty cool!
Haha lol hey Mr Lamb! Always cool to come back to these old vids....memorable and informative
Rock on. 🤘💀🤘
Quit it dean🤣🤣
Oh you silly goose 😋😋😋
Dude you were doing diminished runs in the womb
Yngwei malmsteen
I've heard of him but had no idea he is this good. Great player.
Jeff: ok, so up to speed....
Me: *closes laptop*
The legend Jeff Loomis! Hands down! Wow
Thanks Jeff Loomis.
Hola, por favor nunca cierres tu canal, me ha está ayudando mucho a sacar nuevos ejercicios de guitarra para practicar, muchas gracias.
DAMN, Jeff's phrasing is always layered in awesomeness!
It is all based Yngwie Malmsteen licks
This channel is pure gold
In terms of Neo Classical Metal and Progressive Metal we can mention that Jeff Loomis developed his phrasing in a level that just a few can reach, even his running are the next level of shredding
Bullshit. So many use the same phrasings. They have been around for so long and Jeff has taken it from his heroes and added his owm twist. You ppl project your own lack of creativity on everyone and then conclude that only a few like Jeff can be good. There's bedroom guitarists that play exactly the same way.
@@chrisking6695Can you play like him? Is that what you're saying?
Seriously a Master.
Awesome!!!
You're a grand inspiration Jeff Loomis.....
The way you play is very singular and i apreciate this
Its amazing how speed makes it so different. 12 hours aday
I love dimished shapes just so fun
I've gotta learn this, I sucked at the Diminished scale, I want to master it like Jeff, Yngwie and Dime.🤘 The good thing is that I'm the master of the Wahwah whammy pedal...the best guitar effects ever!. covers a lot of my horrible vibrato and crappy soloing. Subscribed!🔥
Whammet!
Lmao
Lol, where did you heard diminished from dime?
@@АлександрЗыкин-ъ3в most of his bootleg and private lesson stuff. He does it perfectly but not much in Pantera, his solos are more based on Phyrigian dominant and pentatonic chromaticism. he's my friend, he always does it while were having some "Black label" sessions🍻
@@kirkwhammet9933 Can you give me the link pls? Very excited to watch dime shred diminished!
This is awesome!! When you slow everything down, it seems like it will be pretty easy to at least learn.
Then apply speed, and your own twist on it...
Big fan of Jeff Loomis and of course his legacy Nevermore. 4:56 if you really listen carefully it kinda sound like Born track from The Godless Endeavour. Thank you Jeff making beautiful music.
excellent Jeff Loomis 👍🤝 thanks
Damn he can play
Loomis, you have once again peaked my interest
Thank you for uploading
enjoy🎸🤘
He is a genius
He put in the hours. Nothing to do with being a genius. If you learned music theory and then practiced for 20+ years. You’d be good too.
@@Dirge4july practice 50 years still you can’t compose at the level of Marty Friedman or Malamsteen🙅🏻♂️
@@MsDavo123 you skipped rite over learning music theory . Anyone can go to school for theory. It’s then on you or whomever to put the hours in. I know it seems like magic to you. But it isn’t.
Actually "the" genius is what he is!
Thanks Jeff, and for playing in Experiment Fear, when i saw you play then was impressive , this is phenomenal.
Thanks for sharing your electric guitar tutorial new frend watching here.
Great scale awesome guitarist
What a beast 🤟
You are a machine dude. \m/
That was Jeff Loomis, Lead guitarist of progressive metal band "Nevermore" and also guitarist of melodic death metal band "Arch Enemy" ..thanks for watching🤘
For any confused theory students out there, this is not the “diminished scale” but a fragment of the “altered diminished scale” (with the b4 omitted). Not to be confused with the “altered scale”. But hey… we didn’t come here for a theory lesson, we came to hear some shred 🎸🤘🔥
Oh my god I just clicked on this vid and was immediately like "wtf is he talking about that's not the diminished scale 😂"
Damn I bet Jeff has spent countless hours practicing those diminished sweeps
The Test That Stumped Them All
Thank's for the video !
Thanks for putting the tab on top, yt blocks it in pause if you have it on the bottom, didn't know if you knew that
Awesome! Thanks ♥️
Amazing....!!!! Good job....!!!! 👍👍👍👍🎸🎸🎸😎
Diminished/harmonic minor is a “must”for metal guitar shred
Thank You to Jeff for taking the time to do this video/Demo/ Exercise whatever, and Thank You to Guitar Archives. I came here by accident or Devine Guitar God Intervention and Subscribed and of course I liked and filed under Guitar Instruction. Thank God (or whatever) for channels like yours for poor or Economically Challenged players like myself. I can't afford lessons, and I think I've had one in 43 years of playing (Floundering about).I am finally going to a Psychiatrist for A.D.H.D., O.C.D., & P.T.S.D. I think if I can concentrate better and overcome my afflictions, I can get through an hour a day of these great exercises and apply them to my daily practice.I play well considering, but I should be shredding Paganini, Mozart, Bach, & Sweep Arpeggios after 43 years. I just have learning disabilities and it sucks ass. Can anyone relate ? or am I alone here ? I'm not even kidding. I'll do a minute or two and just start drifting. Concentration just evaporates.If anyone has ever had any experience with this, and knows of someone that has had a miracle turnaround or you personally have found the right medication with meditation or whatever, let me know for f***s sake. I'm pretty damn good, but I want to go next level. Peace-
I completely get what you're saying! I've been playing 27 years, but it still feels like I don't actually know how to play...It's like I can't focus, concentrate, and absorb anything...My son has been playing 3 years, when it comes to lead work he can play circles around me...But he'll sit down with tab & keep at it for hours... Even back before arthritis and back pain...2 minutes into trying to learn a song or something and I just drift & end up doing something completely different...I can play the main riff from a hundred songs...but I only know a few all the way thru that I didn't write myself...& Even those I constantly change up...
@@louisstaehle4808 Exacta Mundo. Thank You so much for your reply Louis. It takes courage to put it out there like that and I salute you. At least I know I'm not alone here. I believe you may suffer from the same affliction as me. Adult Attention Deficit. Some of the smartest minds in history have dealt with the same thing. I (my Wife) have made an appointment with a Psych Doctor to see what we can do. I surrender. I'm willing to do what it takes to reach my potential as before, I have been highly against any Psychotropic drugs or medications. Gobley-gook. Happy Trails-
@@teriakamoto set a timer for 5 mins. Practice everything for 5 mins at all speeds (slow to fast)
Then run everything and every sequence and position through the circle of 5ths in all 12 keys.
1,000-3,000 times.
Boom mastered!
That's it Louis. Hit the nail on the head. Take the plunge and don't accept it. If you have insurance, see a specialist and get something to help you focus. You're worth it.
@@CMM5300 I really appreciate that Chris. The best advice I've ever gotten. That is just Music Theory 101 and great advice to anyone that is learning Guitar and want's to learn how to actually really play any genre or style. Thank You so much. I'm actually writing this down right now and going to follow it to the letter, by the numbers. Guitar Boot Camp.
This lesson is a total mindfuck!! Until you realize he's tabbed it as a 7 string!!
🤯🤯
After that, its really fun!!
Thanks Jeff!!
It sounds like one of Moroccan music kind !
Arch!🤘
I hope being able to sweep picking liike that
Totally agree... the neck pickup sounds better on that kind of scales. I only use the neck pickup for solos, that's my personal taste. Nice and interesting video.
I never saw a need for the neck pup unless it's a single and you're using a strat tone. Or playing a strat or tele. I love inspiring teachers like this and comments
@@ericandrews1661 imo, the neck pup rounds out (even dulls) the frequencies in a way that EQ cannot easily do. Therefore, it's merely another ingredient in your arsenal (but certainly not required to shred). I also prefer the neck pup for complex clean passages (with most of the bass frequencies rolled off).
@BrianBergMusic I see what you're saying. I assume you mean that using double coils. I use the neck on strats and teles all the time but that seems like a whole different thing. I ask because I'm considering buying a soloist in either hh or ssh and I alright have several ssh guitars and not sure how I'd like a neck double. Thanks
@@ericandrews1661 The typical response would be "single coils for cleans and humbuckers for high gain". Generally, this advice is solid, but I'm occasionally surprised by how modern metal amps can take almost any pickup style and make it chug (if high gain is your game, which given this vid probably is the case). There's even a rising youTuber that prefers single coils for a brighter sounding chug for his setup.
My 7 string is a very simple dual humbucker with no frills, if that helps give you more context. Sometimes I envy the tone of an 80s style amplifier for single coil leads -- it seems to have a distinct sound that is more organic and dare I say, 'dynamic' (Yngwei's tone, if you will). If you play more lead guitar than rhythm, single coils might be something you want to consider on that point alone. Try some out.
@BrianBergMusic I'm definitely more of a lead player than rhythm. I have one nice fender strat and bunch of teles and I enjoy them all on a few good Marshall amps. Nothing super high gain but more 80s. Which works good for me. The singles sound fine, just not quite as thick as doubles.
Can you play a dim scale ovet any chord or is it just over a dim chord ?could you play c dim over say c major ???
FUCK YEAH!
I was like “okay weird fingering in the first lick but that’s the diminished scale maybe he’s playing a melodic…” and he just started ripping it out
I feel sad now
What’s an Erample?
That was actually an "x" it was just looks like an "r" because of the font style.
kinda looks like frample
That's not exactly the diminished scale. The diminished scale is an octatonic scale with 8 notes.
Harmonic major mode VII
Is a good heptatonic diminished scale.
Correct! Nice someone see that.
This is more a #5th no3th and 7 octatonisch color.
@@michaelhansen8959 right 2 notes are missing or something. I'd have to check again. I think he should of clarified it was most of the octatonic diminished scale. It could be really misleading to some people.
@@CMM5300 yhea, it's misleading. People always give different names to scales. It's confusing ass hell. Before I took theoretical lessons it confused me as hell.
People think if there is a b5 in a chord or scale it's diminish haha.
Jeff take a diminish traid, stacked b 3's and add two/passing color notes. But, it's better to approach our way. Mode 7 of harmonic maj or a broken octatonisch scale. With symmetry scales there's always more ways to approach it, because the have no real diatonic stability.
@@michaelhansen8959 I studied like 130 scales and modes. Yeah it's all very confusing.
I started getting into scale/modes like harmonic minor b4
Harm min b5,
Mel min b4, Mel min b5, mel min #5 Mel min #6
Then I started all the possible scale with 2 note alterations. Like Ionian #2 #6 (and it's modes) 1#2345#67
Then possible 3 note alterations. I was bored and I didn't know anyone who understood what I was charting out all over the fret board. I ended up giving up on it.
@@CMM5300 it will make you crazy, I know😉. Eventually you will down it to logical and simplify.
If you understand diatonic, harmonics, basic and non basic resolution, passing notes, triads and chromatic you always find a harmony solution. Cheers bud
0:18 - how I can play the guitar
4:55 - how it meant to be played
His makeup is quite nice.
The first scare was almost the beginning of am I evil...that run...before the main riff
Jeff is a fuck!ng guitar god!!
OMG!
Yngwie doesn't have a 22nd fret on 99% or more of the guitars he plays.. 1:35 thru 1:53
5:33 repeatebly
I died at 4:55
that's why you didn't see 6:38
😂😂😂
Sebastián Bach's twin brother...
Jeff Loomis: Here’s that pattern you figured out 20 years ago 10 times faster than you’ve ever been able to play it💀
Jeff Loomis needs to be in a death metal band. At the very least simply record only band. I quite like the music part of Nevermore, I just can't get into that vocal style at all. And hey, they gave us Pat O'Brien of Cannibal Corpse. The best thing to happen to cannibal other than getting rid of Barnes.
i was happy till 1:17 :(
Put in a clean effect. Sir please..make sure for our truth...yes am dying
Sounds like Malmsteen, no offence.
why do people shred with so much gain/treble, his tone is killin me but Loomis is the man
The reason the diminished scale has this middle eastern vibe to it is because it is also called the Arabic Scale.
Cool scale I guess, but he didnt really explain anything.
Needs his speakers replaced
Fuxk I give up
Zzzzzzzzzzzzz
But when do you use it? Over a one-note vamp? Over the V7? In unison with the bass? I dunno. Help.
If you are familiar with "River Dragon" "Opulent Maelstorm" "Enemies of Reality" "Sacristy", you will notice that Jeff uses Diminished feel from those songs as he play the solo parts🤘