Why can very common cards be so hard to find?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- In this video, I give 2 channel shout-outs and do a mailday. I also discuss the circumstances that can lead to common cards being hard to find with a focus on 2 factors. Those being condition and price.
Love that 1983 Gwynn. I found a really well conditioned raw copy on eBay about 6 months ago. Came back a PSA 8.5 but it's really well centered. Hard to find that in 83! You are totally right!
@michaelcreeden1560 It's a great card! I'm sure a well centered 8.5 looks really nice. They are so hard to find centered and definitely hard to find nice copies at my local card shows. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I think of it as the opinion is rare :)
🤣 You're probably right! Kind of what I was trying to get across is that they are much rarer in high grades because of production issues. And it is even rarer to find at a show for a good price.
Try finding one of my favorite cards "with "eye appeal", The 1971 Topps Richie Allen. Been looking for it centered since 1971. had 25 of them at that time and that was the talk on the street. All of them are O/C. Or the 72 Hank Aaron in action. those 2 cards 1 in 100K centered. Yes, centering has been a "thing" since then.
Those are great examples of what I 2as trying to explain. Those aren't difficult to find at all but find one centered. Good luck! I appreciate the support, Mike!
I find it odd how cards can be "rare" and highly sought after for centering, but yet, take a truly rare item like a type 1 photo of that same player and it either can't even be given away or only fetches a fraction of the price. I understand cards have always been most sought after, but the card hobby has never made much sense with people chasing all the artificial scarcity.
Neat stuff Billy 👌 Happy week to you
@@nafex3740 Thanks! Same to you!
nfts are the future because of transparency... cards can be manipulatedeasily.
Cards have been around forever. I don't think they're going anywhere! Thanks for watching and commenting.
Great video enjoyed watching
@CraigsCards62 Many thanks, Craig!
Great looking Boyer! Come on...let's get him in the HOF. I am 100% in agreement that 1953 to 1956 was Topps best years. I subbed Joe a few days back. If I had to guess, I seem to sub to more Philly fans than anything. Not sure why. Let me know if you hit a show in KC. I am in Nebraska and I am always looking for a fun show in that area.
@CleanCheapShots Sounds awesome, Drew! I'd love to link up with you at a show! Boyer should absolutely already be in the HOF. Thanks for watching and commenting. Hope all is well.
Great Ken Boyer 2nd year 56 card. I am chipping away on his Topps Run. The 83 Topps RC of Tony Gwynn is a beautiful card. Love that one. Glad you have been enjoying this hobby and community lately Billy. Always enjoy and thanks for sharing with us .
Thanks, Steve! They are both great cards for sure.
30yrs PC Tony Gwynn and sure you don’t see 9’s and I’m from Dallas. I don’t need it but I’m always looking for a 10. 9’s are $180-$200 and 10’a are $3000…. My grail card one day soon I’ll trade my Ohtani Soto and anything to get this card. Great vid.
Thanks for the kind words! I appreciate you watching and commenting. Wow! A 10 is a huge card! I'm pretty sure I've never seen one. What about at the National?
Well done 👍 🎉
@@godisgreat8462 Thanks!
Hi Billy. Ben is an awesome guy with an awesome channel, what a great gift. I certainly will check Joe`s channel out. I have a very narrow list right now, so most of these smaller shows I`ll be attending in the near future, I`ll be attending as a window shopper for the most part. I will be saving up until Strongsville, for a 52 Topps Jackie. I`m sure I`ll pick up some smaller stuff along the way, but I doubt it will be anything very expensive, but you never know. Enjoy your weekend with the guys pal. Talk soon my friend.
@RipFan8 He is awesome! I definitely have to build the funds back up for sure! I definitely won't be picking up a 52 Jackie, though!🤣 I hope I'm with you when you get it! Thanks, my friend!
Nice Blues shirt
❤ NHL ❤
Go Pens!
@CraigsCards62 Thanks! I'm just hoping at this point, the Blues can get back to making the playoffs on a regular basis!
Nice 56 Boyer. I recently added one and happy to own it. I always like when you show his 55 rc. Although I don't own any modern graded rcs, this was interesting to listen to.
@danielbernier6095 Thanks for watching Dan! Yours is awesome, too. I really enjoy the 56 set, too. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks again, my friend!
And as far as your topic goes. I love cards anywhere I can get them eBay, card shows, Facebook. My problem is I’m trying the list approach. I call it my “hit list”, but we shall see how diligent I am. I tend to buy anything and everything.
I have that same issue with wanting to buy everything! That's why I try to stick to my list, but sometimes it's hard to find cards on my list!
stick to the "regenerating" list of 100🤣...It'll never betray you...
@@BringingTheHeat-VBC I love the idea of this and need to give it a try. 100 seems like a lot. Maybe I need to try 50 to start.
@@Redneckclector 😂😂😂🤣it’s a dangerous proposition either way. As long as you have fun doing it an are patient. Enjoy!
What wrong with Yankees guys? 😂 I have to overpay for everything.
@@LonelyBasementBaseballCards 🤣 I was wondering which one of you guys were going to be the first one to blow me up in the comments!
Aww, I suppose Yankee fans aren’t so bad. I do have quite a few Mantles and Judge myself.
And I PC Yogi.
@Redneckclector See, I just pumped you up, and really, you're another Yankee fan! 🤣
@Redneckclector Me too. I just like to talk smack to them all because I'm jealous, and they're all such good dudes.
Billy, I am a former collector (early to mid 80s) returning to the hobby. I have really been enjoying your videos along with those from Graig at Mid-Life Sports Cards. Seems we both have a fondness for the Lou Brock rookie card. I have a Lou Brock player run from my first collecting life. This brings me to another point, given your love of the St. Louis Cardinals.
Lou Brock came to the Cards in 1964, so his first appearance in that uniform is the 1965 Topps. Have you studied this set much? Very few of the color combinations (Pennant and Frame color) in that set actually match the team uniforms. The pennant does of course, but often the frame color makes no sense at all. One that does is the St. Louis Cardinals player cards, with the red pennant and black frame. The Lou Brock and Bob Gibson cards are particularly stunning. Ever considered assembling a collection of the 1965 Topps Cardinals?
@@plasticmodelmojo I love ALL the Lou’s. Funny how just about Every One ☝️ of his cards are very difficult to find centered.
Thanks for watching and commenting. Welcome back to the hobby! I love the 65 set. They are probably my favorite set from the 60s. I plan to get the HOFers in all the sets eventually. But there are so many cards I want! So who knows when I'll get there, but the plan is once I finish the 60 set to move forward and get the HOFers. Thanks again!
Great stuff, Yankees fan here!!
You guys are everywhere, Orlamdo!
Good. Don't claim the Orioles when they win the World Series Lol.
@ACD1994 🤣 Uh oh, here we go! I'll sit back and watch and eat popcorn. Let the smack talking begin! The Oreoles really could win a World Series soon! Hopefully, the Cardinals or Royals do, but that's definitely more of a long shot. Especially with the Cardinals!
Thanks for the shout-out Billy! I never expected to have many subscribers, I don't exactly make thrilling content. I'll start showing collections eventually at least after this last PSA and SGC orders are done. Watching you in prime time right now buddy!
No problem Ben thanks again! I think we are our own toughest critics. I know I am. Thanks again, my friend! Last night's live stream was a lot of fun. I'm sorry I didn't call you yesterday. I had some stuff run long. I'd like to give you a call in about an hour or so if that's ok?
@@billyballgamesportscards Well I slept in until almost 1pm or else, yep! Haha, it was nice talking with you Billy!
@blixcards Absolutely, I'm sorry we didn't really get to talk! I hope we can talk soon.
Hi Billy, I will see the Cal rookie at the Chantilly show in Virginia. I know it's because it's close to Baltimore.
Hey Jim! I'm sure you'll see a lot of them there? Whatis your best guess on how many tables they have there?
@@billyballgamesportscards The Chantily show has about 200 tables and a nice selection of both vintage and modern.
@jimfalkler9361 I've heard that it's a really good show! There's probably all kinds of awesome stuff there!
Hey Billy- great topic to discuss. I saw some Topps Clemens RC‘s slabbed in discount boxes in 7 and 8 grade at several tables at the National. They are commonly in bargain boxes ungraded at local shows or my LCS.
@The_Cincinnati_Kid Thanks Topher! It's much appreciated! It doesn't surprise me at all that you saw them in 7s and 8s. There are not many 9s and 10s out there percentage wise. Thanks again for watching and commenting.
@@billyballgamesportscards I used to have a PSA 8 of his topps rookie, but let it go after the PED thing. Wish I hadn’t done that now. At least I kept my Fleer update Mark McGuire and ‚86 TT Barry Bonds.
@The_Cincinnati_Kid Those are both great cards! I got lucky I have a Clemens 85 Topps in a 9 that I got out of a set many years ago and sent in. I need to get an 85 Topps McGwire in a 9 also. I had an 8.5 that I got rid of. That was a bad decision.
@@billyballgamesportscards that is cool! Probably aren’t too many ‚85 Clemens in a 9 grade!
Thank you so much for the shout out. I really do appreciate it. I’m so excited to be a part of the community with such great people like yourself.
Thanks, Joe! It's my pleasure! I hope I don't cause you to lose subscribers.😂 I'm happy to see you join the community, and I look forward to seeing your collection and channel grow!
I'm going to weigh in on this subject. Let's take the gwynn or say a Ryan Sandberg RC from 1983.. Anybody that has them, which are alot of us, says I'm not selling that for such a cheap price.. I'm holding on to that, it'll appreciate well.. So even being a plentiful card, folks honors them. That trend will continue also. The bulk of my collection is based on this theory being true.
@royakard8536 I hope you are right! Those types of cards make up the bulk of my collection. Do you think that is why they aren't seen often at cards shows? Collectors aren't selling them to dealers for next nothing? Most of the time, when I see these types of cards for sale, they are usually graded 8 or lower.
@billyballgamesportscards why would you give away something you know will cost more? I personally believe cards such as the fine 83 rookies will weather the test of time quite nicely. All I'm saying is , a good hall of fame rookie card in good shape isn't bad to prospect a little with.
@royakard8536 No doubt! It's much better than a prospect who hasn't played above double AA!
Great topic, Billy! These higher grade 80s rookies are certainly plentiful online, but I agree with you that you won’t see too many of them at shows in person. There could be a few reasons for this phenomenon:
- The rookies in 9s and 10s tend to be sought after by serious collectors and investors - not the type of crowd who is necessarily looking to move them at shows.
- For bigger shows like the National, cards like these just don’t bring enough of a return on investment to make it profitable to display in a showcase. A Randy Johnson ‘89 Topps Traded gem mint BGS 9.5 only sells for about $25. Dealers may want to use that case real estate to showcase a more modern flashier / pricier card of a current player.
At the National, I was struck by how few 90s cards were in showcases, with the exception of about 5-6 tables. Even those tables mostly featured Griffey, Bonds, & Jeter - if you wanted anyone else like Maddux, Gwynn, Pedro, or Piazza, you had to ask, and even then, those guys don’t have the kind of value to make it worthwhile for many of these huge dealers to feature them prominently in their showcases. Unless they were SUPER rare 90s inserts like Gem Masters, Starting 9s, Crusade Reds, or Star Rubies, you only saw inserts of those tippy top Pareto players.
- There’s very little room for profit on these kinds of cards. Say what you will about estimated card values from sources like Alt / PSA / Market movers / card ladder / etc… but this may be the biggest factor: with SO many of these types of rookie cards transacted on eBay alone EVERY DAY, the value estimates are VERY accurate and not too volatile. When any Joe Schmoe walks by a table and can see the past 4 eBay sales of a PSA 9 Ripken rookie that same week, that dealer will have to price theirs to compete with all the online ones too, so they can’t price it with any significant profit margin built in.
@royakard8536 I hope you are right. I hold a lot of stuff like that in my collection. My thoughts are that for those types of plentiful cards to hold value in the future, they are going to have to be high-grade versions of them. 10s already do and are a very low percentage of the pop reports, but I think 9s and even 8s could hold and maybe build value in the future for certain cards. 9s already have to a certain extent. I'm sorry I didn't respond to you earlier.