I've been kegging for about three years. My first time force carbing was a tall glass of foam!!! My brother in suds, thank you!!!! I have a party tomorrow, and I followed what you did. My hefe is total carb. for the fest. tomorrow!!!! AWESOME, just subed keep it up. Brew on!!!
thanks for the detail... bought a cooper's kit a while back and ended up with flat beer... it was affordable but what I really wanted was the big boy toys you show here. Kegging your own brew is so cool... thanks gain.
This is the best video I've seen on this subject! I wish I seen this before I tried to force carbonate my last batch... I made a mess and wasted some CO2. Thanks man! Cheers
Great video. I change the force carb co2 line with a black liquid ball lock fitting. That way you force through the liquid side. The co2 comes out at the bottom of the draw tube and bubbles up through the beer.
you are one smart brewer next time pull the beer out tube and get air stone and attach it to your beer out tube .release the air in the keg at about 15pst while you carb keg by ed
The dispensing "spear" is a straight tube that runs from the inside bottom of the keg to the OUT valve where you normally connect a tap. Temporarily reversing this arrangement, one can bubble CO2 up from the bottom which does a fairly effective job of force carbonating without having to agitate the keg.
Heh, I'm so glad I'm not alone in the fact that all of my work is done while my wife and kid sleep. I'm a meadmaker and when I do staggered nutrient additions in the middle of the night, I have to cart the brew bucket into the laundry room on the other side of the house and shut the door before I crack the lid and aerate/add nutrients. Too funny.
Get this ...After bottle conditioning my homemade beer for35 years I found that I can do what the breweries have been for a 100 years. I am definite spending the money. Thanks for your post. Regards Chuck
Hey Chris, another great vid. You might also like to try an easier ans less energetic method ---- Just run your CO2 through the keg dispensing spear, no need to tip or roll te keg , just gently rocking about 15degs from vertical. Cheers Nick, DP Brewery, Australia
When you need it, you need it lol. Thanks bro, great video. I have a Mangrove Jacks corny keg and I don't have any problem putting a gas disconnect on to the beer-out post. It comes off no problem.
Great keg video man. It looks like you use the same seal lubricant that I do. "Sanitary Petrol Gel Lubricant" packaged by McGlaughlin Oil Company. it's a pain to spread around but works amazing.
I usually force carb the keg at room temperature[approx 70degrees] right after kegging for about 8-10min at 30psi. if you watch the PSI go down when you shake it you can tell its absorbing, once it sits close to 28-30psi and wont go down much anymore, I disconnect it and cool it. . As its cooling the rest of the pressure goes down and it absorbs the rest of the c02. about an hour later you can purge any extra pressure and hook it up to serving lines. You can serve that same day maybe 2 hours later but for best results is to wait overnight for best taste. I keep my serving lines to about 5-7psi . I do this for ales, and ipa's without issues. I believe by doing it while its warm allows the beer/carb to settle faster since it drops in temp and allows for a quicker turn around. Although it always tastes better after it sits overnight.
Hey man. What kind of conditioning did you usually do? I know it's case sensitive, but I heard that it's always a good idea to fill the keg, put a few pounds on it and let it sit at room temp for a few weeks before chilling, carbing and serving. Thoughts?
@BeerGeekNation I did an Brown ale extract brew about a month ago. 1 week primary, 1 week secondary and then slow carbed in at 48F for a week. I was shuned by friends who drank it and said that it was young, unconditioned and lacking a yeast presence. Could have been a weak pitch I suppose.
I don't get why so many homebrewers obsess so much over closed transfer systems and LODO setups, when all you really need to do is siphon your beer into your keg slowly so it doesn't splash, and purge the headspace with co2 a couple times to get rid of the oxygen after you put the lid on the keg.
how much did all of your equipment cost you? and would you recommend starting out this way and with the equipment in the previous 2 videos to a new home brewer?
Wow, I didn't know they can sometimes take that long before being ready for the shelves. Let me ask you this, is there are beer that comes close to a Lambic or is the Lambic in its own realm? I heard you talking about fruits in your description after tasting what you had made, I'd love something that tasted more like fruit, than an actual beer. I hope all of that makes sense. lol
Lubing up those o-rings is essential! Just ask NASA what a failed o-ring can do. ;) I need to get an autosiphon like that. So you don't cold crash, keg and then force carbonate? That's what I've been doing so I don't have to chill it another day to get it ready. I also chill my CO2 tank as well. Anyway, just another way of doing it I guess. Nice video, looking forward to part 4.
I followed the force carb and had the pressure at 30 psi rolled for 4/5 min Hooked it up the next day and it poured out all foam. Not bad just had to wait 5 min to wait. I pulled the pin a couple of times and it is still foam. Its been 2 days since. How long do you think I should wait and what can I do to reduce the head.
quick question: is it a cornelius keg? is this the "standard" for homebrewy? what is the diffirence between pin lock and ball lock? I'm bit loss with that ....
Sorry no one has replied. You most likely have found your answers by now, but I'll briefly state major differences for anyone reading this that doesn't know. Ball lock and pin lock are from pepsi and coke respectively. The names given to both are derived from the attachment design at the gas in and fluid out posts on the keg. The things that connect gas and fluid lines to the keg are called disconnects! Ball lock disconnects have balls that grab the post when a plastic sheath is slid over them. Pinlock disconnects have slots that accept pins on the post when the disconnect is pressed down and twisted onto the post. The two kegs are different physically. The ball locks are a couple inches taller than pin locks, but the pin locks are an inch larger in diameter. Currently ball locks are more expensive. Both will treat your beer with the same respect by accomplishing the same job of protecting and dispensing it. Pin locks can be converted over to ball locks through conversion kits. There is no reason to do a conversion unless you already have ball lock disconnects for an established system or because the pin lock kegs dimensions better suit for a kegerator project when ones ball lock kegs will not physically fit. The last thing is a pressure release valve in the lid. Ball lock kegs have a pressure release pull valve on the lid and pin locks only have an emergency pressure relief valve on the lid. What does this mean? It means that one can pull the valve via finger ring to release pressure on a ball lock and one cannot with a pin lock. The pinlocks will release pressure at a preset point to prevent damage and disaster. Some regulators are set to release at a point prior. Does this suck for pinlocks? No. pressure can be relieved on a pinlock by depressing the center of the gas post. These centers are called poppets. They are spring actuated pins equipped with o-rings. There is also a post relief accessory available that you can buy fairly cheap. I think a pen would do fine. Some argue that the release valves of ball locks are just one more thing to go bad. Touche. Are pin lock and ball lock lids interchangeable? I believe they are, but be aware that there are a couple different shaped keg lids. Oval and square with rounded ends (race tracks). Hope this helps clarify something for someone. Happy thirst quenching.
Hey man. I have a question. I kegged my brew for the first time. I set my psi at 20 and left it for about 36 hours. I checked the beer and it was slightly carbonated, so I set it to 20 psi again and put it in the fridge for another 36 hours. When I checked again it looked like it lost all carbonation. Does the cold do something to it? Thanks.
so would you say that 5 minutes is good for a hefewisen? also, when I forced carbinated I just rocked it back and forth with it was still upright, and the beer got pretty well carbinted
I never tried to carbonate by letting it sit for a week at serving psi. Just let it sit for a week That's all? I'm interested to see if its any smoother.
I just finished my first keg set up and I have a question. When you burp it and leave it for 24hrs before force carbing to you leave a constant 5psi on or fill at 5psi burp it let it fill back up and the shut off the c02 for 24 hours?
i almost think i have messed up my regulator what is a tipical sign you can speak for i think i let mine fall over a few to many times and when i try to set it at 8 or 9 psi i come back a few hours later n it riases up to 20 psi or so lol i donno bout to give up on it n get a new one my self but it still gets the job doen but sux when i am trying t9o keep my psi at a low pressure but o well ....... cheers gota luv that Avery
Nicholas Nicholas --Yes you can. You can actually buy a cap that is designed for carbonating soda or sparkling water in soda bottles. This is a much cheaper approach than Soda Stream dispensing systems.
im a first time kegger. i did this and my beer is coming out really foamy. i released some co2 and reconnected my line back at my serving pressure at 10psi and its still coming out foamy. any suggestions?
What Tony said, plus, how long are your beer lines from the keg to the faucet. Generally shorter lines will result in more foam. I run 10 feet of 1/4" tubing.
p.s. I would love to try some of your homebrews i'm still planing on sending you some FFF stuff. I wish you lived closer to chicago I would straight up pay you to teach me how to homebrew
Andrew C it's been a year now and I've kegged about 6 batches this year and while I agree with you, my first two batches I forced carbed and they just don't come out the same. I'd rather just wait on the carbing because you don't get good carbonation and I've noticed the aging on most beers taste much better. I hope you can understand what I'm trying to say lol. basically no force carb for me anymore
Is it possible to carbonate with helium? Will it mix with the beer? Has anyone tried it? I want to make beer like Samuel Adams Heliyum. Paulo from Azores.
That is a really cool idea, but problem you run into is that the solubility of He in water is very low, less than a thousandth that of CO2. A big part of this is that He doesn't interact chemically with water, whereas C02 does, forming carbonic acid.
Wow that's not rude at all now is it. Guys is trying to do a quality video and you guys are focused on how his body functions. It takes guts to do it and I think he was great and very informative. The internet can be so rude at times. Give the guy a break... with all sincerity, please.
I've been kegging for about three years. My first time force carbing was a tall glass of foam!!! My brother in suds, thank you!!!! I have a party tomorrow, and I followed what you did. My hefe is total carb. for the fest. tomorrow!!!! AWESOME, just subed keep it up. Brew on!!!
thanks for the detail... bought a cooper's kit a while back and ended up with flat beer... it was affordable but what I really wanted was the big boy toys you show here. Kegging your own brew is so cool... thanks gain.
First videos i've watched of yours. really informative for someone who is just learning everything. Ty for takin the time to make them
This is the best video I've seen on this subject! I wish I seen this before I tried to force carbonate my last batch... I made a mess and wasted some CO2. Thanks man! Cheers
Great video. I change the force carb co2 line with a black liquid ball lock fitting. That way you force through the liquid side. The co2 comes out at the bottom of the draw tube and bubbles up through the beer.
you are one smart brewer next time pull the beer out tube and get air stone and attach it to your beer out tube .release the air in the keg at about 15pst while you carb keg by ed
The dispensing "spear" is a straight tube that runs from the inside bottom of the keg to the OUT valve where you normally connect a tap. Temporarily reversing this arrangement, one can bubble CO2 up from the bottom which does a fairly effective job of force carbonating without having to agitate the keg.
Very informative video for those of us new to kegging. Thanks!
Love this series of vids. Very helpful. New to this and You saved my first batch.
Heh, I'm so glad I'm not alone in the fact that all of my work is done while my wife and kid sleep. I'm a meadmaker and when I do staggered nutrient additions in the middle of the night, I have to cart the brew bucket into the laundry room on the other side of the house and shut the door before I crack the lid and aerate/add nutrients. Too funny.
haha yep thats my world
Thanks for all the great videos.I keg my first batch tomorrow!
Get this ...After bottle conditioning my homemade beer for35 years I found that I can do what the breweries have been for a 100 years. I am definite spending the money. Thanks for your post. Regards Chuck
Hey Chris, another great vid. You might also like to try an easier ans less energetic method ---- Just run your CO2 through the keg dispensing spear, no need to tip or roll te keg , just gently rocking about 15degs from vertical. Cheers Nick, DP Brewery, Australia
Many thanks for your prompt reply. Thanking you for sharing your information. Have learned a lot from you vids.
Can't wait to get Keging ! Going to get me brewing allot more. Nice vid Man.
When you need it, you need it lol.
Thanks bro, great video.
I have a Mangrove Jacks corny keg and I don't have any problem putting a gas disconnect on to the beer-out post. It comes off no problem.
Great keg video man. It looks like you use the same seal lubricant that I do. "Sanitary Petrol Gel Lubricant" packaged by McGlaughlin Oil Company. it's a pain to spread around but works amazing.
I usually force carb the keg at room temperature[approx 70degrees] right after kegging for about 8-10min at 30psi. if you watch the PSI go down when you shake it you can tell its absorbing, once it sits close to 28-30psi and wont go down much anymore, I disconnect it and cool it. . As its cooling the rest of the pressure goes down and it absorbs the rest of the c02.
about an hour later you can purge any extra pressure and hook it up to serving lines.
You can serve that same day maybe 2 hours later but for best results is to wait overnight for best taste. I keep my serving lines to about 5-7psi . I do this for ales, and ipa's without issues.
I believe by doing it while its warm allows the beer/carb to settle faster since it drops in temp and allows for a quicker turn around. Although it always tastes better after it sits overnight.
vampnc Yeah overnight is ideal
I do the same. Get great results and also the beer tastes more bitter directly.after carbonating.
The charts say beer absorbs co2 better when it's cold
I share your sentiments concerning bottling. Gotta, gotta, gotta get set up with a kg system soon.
Hey man. What kind of conditioning did you usually do? I know it's case sensitive, but I heard that it's always a good idea to fill the keg, put a few pounds on it and let it sit at room temp for a few weeks before chilling, carbing and serving. Thoughts?
@BeerGeekNation I did an Brown ale extract brew about a month ago. 1 week primary, 1 week secondary and then slow carbed in at 48F for a week. I was shuned by friends who drank it and said that it was young, unconditioned and lacking a yeast presence. Could have been a weak pitch I suppose.
I don't get why so many homebrewers obsess so much over closed transfer systems and LODO setups, when all you really need to do is siphon your beer into your keg slowly so it doesn't splash, and purge the headspace with co2 a couple times to get rid of the oxygen after you put the lid on the keg.
I've never been a fan of beer, but I'm a huge fan of Lambic. Do you also make those?
Can you fit both kegs and your co2 tank in your kegerator? Looks homemade (and awesome), what fridge company did you go with?
"T-plus-8", love the finance lingo!
Cheers!
Thanks again Chris!! Learned a whole lot.
Looks pretty cloudy, did you keep the autosiphon off the bottom?
change your coupler on the co2 to beer out and push co2 into keg thru the beer out tube in 5min @ 10pst.
What's the longest you've left your beer in the keg? Do kegs need to be kept chilled at all times? Thanks for the great videos!
how much did all of your equipment cost you? and would you recommend starting out this way and with the equipment in the previous 2 videos to a new home brewer?
PSA You can substitute KY jelly for the keg lube.
My question is : Can i use Keg Lube as i would normally use KY?
Wow, I didn't know they can sometimes take that long before being ready for the shelves. Let me ask you this, is there are beer that comes close to a Lambic or is the Lambic in its own realm? I heard you talking about fruits in your description after tasting what you had made, I'd love something that tasted more like fruit, than an actual beer. I hope all of that makes sense. lol
Good info on this one man.... Thumbs up!
Chris: Great information thanks. I for lube may I suggest KY jelly. Works great!
@BeerGeekNation What are the pros and cons of putting the CO2 tank in the fridge?
Nice vid man! Keep em coming!
Great vid Chris!! I just made my first Stout. Is cold aging and force carbing appropriate?
How did you make that hop thing on your brew pot? Made a beer today with 6oz of hops and spent 40 min trying to strain it lol
Lubing up those o-rings is essential! Just ask NASA what a failed o-ring can do. ;)
I need to get an autosiphon like that.
So you don't cold crash, keg and then force carbonate? That's what I've been doing so I don't have to chill it another day to get it ready. I also chill my CO2 tank as well. Anyway, just another way of doing it I guess.
Nice video, looking forward to part 4.
I followed the force carb and had the pressure at 30 psi rolled for 4/5 min Hooked it up the next day and it poured out all foam. Not bad just had to wait 5 min to wait. I pulled the pin a couple of times and it is still foam. Its been 2 days since. How long do you think I should wait and what can I do to reduce the head.
Nick, what do you mean by the dispensing spear?
My choir director kegs all his beers since last year. He hasn't bottled since.
quick question: is it a cornelius keg? is this the "standard" for homebrewy? what is the diffirence between pin lock and ball lock? I'm bit loss with that ....
Sorry no one has replied. You most likely have found your answers by now, but I'll briefly state major differences for anyone reading this that doesn't know.
Ball lock and pin lock are from pepsi and coke respectively.
The names given to both are derived from the attachment design at the gas in and fluid out posts on the keg.
The things that connect gas and fluid lines to the keg are called disconnects!
Ball lock disconnects have balls that grab the post when a plastic sheath is slid over them.
Pinlock disconnects have slots that accept pins on the post when the disconnect is pressed down and twisted onto the post.
The two kegs are different physically. The ball locks are a couple inches taller than pin locks, but the pin locks are an inch larger in diameter.
Currently ball locks are more expensive.
Both will treat your beer with the same respect by accomplishing the same job of protecting and dispensing it.
Pin locks can be converted over to ball locks through conversion kits.
There is no reason to do a conversion unless you already have ball lock disconnects for an established system or because the pin lock kegs dimensions better suit for a kegerator project when ones ball lock kegs will not physically fit.
The last thing is a pressure release valve in the lid. Ball lock kegs have a pressure release pull valve on the lid and pin locks only have an emergency pressure relief valve on the lid.
What does this mean? It means that one can pull the valve via finger ring to release pressure on a ball lock and one cannot with a pin lock. The pinlocks will release pressure at a preset point to prevent damage and disaster. Some regulators are set to release at a point prior.
Does this suck for pinlocks? No. pressure can be relieved on a pinlock by depressing the center of the gas post. These centers are called poppets. They are spring actuated pins equipped with o-rings. There is also a post relief accessory available that you can buy fairly cheap. I think a pen would do fine. Some argue that the release valves of ball locks are just one more thing to go bad. Touche.
Are pin lock and ball lock lids interchangeable? I believe they are, but be aware that there are a couple different shaped keg lids. Oval and square with rounded ends (race tracks).
Hope this helps clarify something for someone.
Happy thirst quenching.
Hey man. I have a question. I kegged my brew for the first time. I set my psi at 20 and left it for about 36 hours. I checked the beer and it was slightly carbonated, so I set it to 20 psi again and put it in the fridge for another 36 hours. When I checked again it looked like it lost all carbonation. Does the cold do something to it? Thanks.
great vid and demo. thanks!
so would you say that 5 minutes is good for a hefewisen?
also, when I forced carbinated I just rocked it back and forth with it was still upright, and the beer got pretty well carbinted
Take a drink every time he says Star San.
I never tried to carbonate by letting it sit for a week at serving psi. Just let it sit for a week That's all? I'm interested to see if its any smoother.
Does that stearlizer stuff affect the taste of the beer?
I just finished my first keg set up and I have a question. When you burp it and leave it for 24hrs before force carbing to you leave a constant 5psi on or fill at 5psi burp it let it fill back up and the shut off the c02 for 24 hours?
where did you get that white fermenting jug
i almost think i have messed up my regulator what is a tipical sign you can speak for i think i let mine fall over a few to many times and when i try to set it at 8 or 9 psi i come back a few hours later n it riases up to 20 psi or so lol i donno bout to give up on it n get a new one my self but it still gets the job doen but sux when i am trying t9o keep my psi at a low pressure but o well ....... cheers gota luv that Avery
Its in the works
@ 9:57 is this A sticker the logo of Greek Alfa beer??
Could you do this with just water to make sparkling water or soda?
Nicholas Nicholas Yes i was thinking the same, I did it ... and it works! :D
Nicholas Nicholas --Yes you can. You can actually buy a cap that is designed for carbonating soda or sparkling water in soda bottles. This is a much cheaper approach than Soda Stream dispensing systems.
I did it at 40PSI and it works so good! And you are right Soda Stream is to way expensive.
how come you leave the sanitizer in the keg rather then washing it out? wouldnt that effect taste?
I think it turns to oxygen and is purged off.
Wash it out with unsanitised water??
Thanks so much! I'll try that.
DONT YOU KNOW ABOUT A ANTI BACK-UP VALVE FOR THECO2 LI NE??
What kind of vessel are u using for fermenting
Nice! what is it chemically?
im a first time kegger. i did this and my beer is coming out really foamy. i released some co2 and reconnected my line back at my serving pressure at 10psi and its still coming out foamy. any suggestions?
Have you tried a lower serving pressure? I have also heard and read from multiple sources that recommend using 10' (feet) of beer line.
What Tony said, plus, how long are your beer lines from the keg to the faucet. Generally shorter lines will result in more foam. I run 10 feet of 1/4" tubing.
Haha, keggin with the baby sleepin.... I know the feelin'
a go pro would be so helpful!
Thanks Pal
p.s. I would love to try some of your homebrews i'm still planing on sending you some FFF stuff. I wish you lived closer to chicago I would straight up pay you to teach me how to homebrew
will it be okay to do this method while dry hopping.
+Seth M sure
Thanks boss
Andrew C it's been a year now and I've kegged about 6 batches this year and while I agree with you, my first two batches I forced carbed and they just don't come out the same. I'd rather just wait on the carbing because you don't get good carbonation and I've noticed the aging on most beers taste much better. I hope you can understand what I'm trying to say lol. basically no force carb for me anymore
Do you have to force carbonate when kegging?
No you do not have to. It’s just a faster method.
Is it possible to carbonate with helium? Will it mix with the beer? Has anyone tried it? I want to make beer like Samuel Adams Heliyum.
Paulo from Azores.
Paulo Cunha I guess you could...but that is just a guess
+Beer Geek Nation no you can't
That is a really cool idea, but problem you run into is that the solubility of He in water is very low, less than a thousandth that of CO2. A big part of this is that He doesn't interact chemically with water, whereas C02 does, forming carbonic acid.
You know that this won't work, right? Even if the helium would mix in the beer, you'll have to drown with it for voice pitch changing.
Thanks.
did you ever buy a anti back up valve for a buck????
DONT YOU KNOW-PUSH CO2 THRU THE BEER COUPELING RELEASE PRESSURE AS YOU GO.
Thanks
There is no law that said you most stand a CO2 tank up right. I always lay it down on the counter, the floor, a table. never had a busted gage
Just make sure the co2 is standing up while in use or it will dispense liquid CO2 into your beer.
can you please how to keg beer,$150 lol i doubt it :]
thanks!
KY Jelly works the same as "keg lube". Hell, it probably IS the same thing. Don't be scuurd
pretend we are not talking about a keg, pretend we we talking about a grenade launcher.
no it doesn't
that looke like fon -rolling your corney on the floor for 5min.read info t below .
cool
KY jelly is best and a lot cheaper
Looks like a Cooper's product from australia. Go to makebeer.net to find similar stuff.
your ego is very entertaining
I get distracted by how hard he seems to struggle with swallowing all the time. Good info in these videos for a beginner like me though.
Wow that's not rude at all now is it. Guys is trying to do a quality video and you guys are focused on how his body functions. It takes guts to do it and I think he was great and very informative. The internet can be so rude at times. Give the guy a break... with all sincerity, please.
Your intro is very loud fyi.
dude stop spamming ur videos its actually pretty anoying