I don't agree with everything the brother says, but brothers like this need to be promoted instead of movie stars, rappers and basketball players. As a young black man from Oakland, California I wasn't surrounded by this type of thinking. Honestly, i was critical of this man but the more I LISTENED, the more sense he made. Honestly, I believe this man is trying to reach out to black folks (especially the MEN) and unlock the POTENTIAL that's there. I've encountered so many folks that use social injustice as a crutch, it sickens me. I am raising 3 black children and I cannot afford to saturate their minds with that bullshit.
I have been thinking about what this whole victim / oppressed narrative says to young kids hearing it. Not just black people, but everyone needs to listen to black academics to see black people aren't a monolith who all think the same. Seeing black people with different opinions get called "Uncle Tom" or "sell outs" is racist as hell and clunterproductive. I'd like to see this man run for presidency one day. 🙏
@sarah freethinking notrump noleftysjw I agree with everything you said except about Trump. Critical Race Theory in our schools and institutions is to blame for this first and foremost - and Trump is the only one taking action against it. He has already cut federal funding to any federal agency teaching this.
Jessica MacDonald if only half of the political conversations were had in this manner, Americans as a whole, would be far better off. It’s nice to see that we can agree to disagree and be respectful to each other.
I don't know who this woman is, but she's a skilled interviewer. I always appreciate someone who asks pertinent questions AND pertinent follow up questions, and allows the interviewee to speak. Wonderful interview.
I appreciate this conversation, he understands the historical struggle of black communities but also don’t make excuses. Many times I hear just get over it not understanding the implications of policy. Culture definitely makes a difference. Great interview
I too like this guy so much for that. So many of the people who disagree with systemic racism don't bring empathy or historical understanding to the reasons that Black Americans do have disadvantages. Very balanced and rational conversation.
U KNOW THAT'S A WAY TO KEEP BLAMING YOURSELF AND NOT THE PEOPLE THAT PUT US IN A OPPRESSIVE STATE. "bLaCk PeOpLe DoNt HaVe aNy CulTuRe" BlAcK pEoPle NeEd To cHaNgE oUr CulTuRe"🥴🥴🥴...THAT'S SO DAMN PSEUDO IN A REPARATIONS DECISION.
@Adam Alperstein From Urban Dictionary: "Agreeable. Admirable. Worthy of support. Often used in contexts where the action or opinion ignores popular trends and social conventions or requires special effort. Used either seriously or tongue-in-cheek to encourage eccentric behavior for comedic effect. A: I threw away my TV. I only read books now. B: That's based."
You are only saying this crap because he presents more as a white male stereotype. Just because you can't understand someone does not mean that they are not educated. In fact, you are the one who isn't educated in their ways.
And he's only 24. I hope his future is long and accomplished; he shows much more promise as a potential leader than that dunce ocasio-cortez and her ilk.
@@Shoett94 Peterson doesn't stack up. Peterson's ego and projection of a subtle character he is always playing seems to shine through, where Hughes seems completely himself and speaks with the perfect combination of confidence and humility.
I like that Mr. Hughes doesn't proselytize with the absolutism found in the speech of people trying to plant a flag on the Right or Left side of the political spectrum. Nuance doesn't sell in today's media and online communities, but I hope that Mr. Hughes will cultivate a following that may bring him and his views national exposure.
I’m an immigrant from the Caribbean and moved to the U.S. in my mid-teens. I remember what it was like to grow up in my country and I experienced the lowered expectations that were laid out for me when I moved to the U.S. I had to fight really hard and advocate for myself to be placed in the appropriate classes. That process took almost a month. Then, I was placed in the interesting position of “she’s Black but she’s not like the other Blacks.” Those experiences continued and gave me a great appreciation for the plight of the descendants of enslaved Africans in the U.S. I came to understand why things were the way they are in the Black American community. My great grandparents up to my parents did not have to deal with segregation, Jim Crow, lynching, red lining, fighting in multiple wars and come back to a country where they are treated as second-class citizens. Black Americans had to adopt different survival skills in an environment that was meant to destroy and subjugate them. Let’s not forget that the Constitution of the U.S. (law of the land) clearly stated that Black slaves were 3/5 of a person and subsequent Supreme Court ruling stated that a Black person, whether free or enslaved, has no right that a White man is bound to respect. While that equation is no longer in the constitution and the Dred Scott decision was overturned, it took over a century of oppression, resistance, killings, injustice, and trauma to come to that point. Still, slavery is legal as a form of punishment. #13. I’m for taking personal responsibility and achieving success. I also hate when the successes of Black immigrants are used in comparison with Black Americans because that negates the history of the people who had to fight and survive in the environment where they were enslaved and continued to be oppressed. Example: Black Wall Street. It seems to me that Black Americans could achieve success individually but any collective movement was met with brutal government sanctioned force. The U.S. is unique in the sense that it is a country where specific races and cultures are expected to fulfill certain roles. For the most part around the world, people are people. An Asian child who is underperforming in school in Japan doesn’t become less Asian. And a Ugandan kid who is excelling in school does not cease to be Black. So, think about these things. Is it the people or the environment? Let’s be careful to not be dismissive while encouraging others to heal and grow. Answering why things are the way they are is how we get to how do we fix them.
I agree with most of your comment but not with the comparison between black immigrants and black American. I agree that all the systems have set the community back, however this generation and the generation before have not dealt with it. In my case I have family from Chicago and on my other side they are from the Caribbean. On my Caribbean side, they all moved to the us because they understand that in America, you have more opportunities. A large part of their success had to do with their culture. Very hard working. Where my Chicago side, my father had to move out because of the lack of encouragement and motivation in the community. I don’t think he was dismissing others in the video, but it is necessary to understand the differences. Love your comment btw
All over the world, people find ways to pigeon hole others. Japanese citizens of Korean descent are often looked down on by citizens of Japanese descent. The Untouchables in India are only recently seeing affirmative action. Not long ago, Irish Catholics and Irish Protestants were separated by class and hatred, mob violence and terrorism. It ain't just America.
Natalie Johnson Yes, thank you for your comment. Nonetheless, the U.S. needs to do better. All nations need to do better. Since the U.S. positioned itself as the leader of the world, it would be great if it sets a better example. And not through military intervention.
WOW! He just got the nail on the head!!!!! I’ve been trying to articulate the concept from the parable of the pedestrian for years. I’ve never quite been smart enough to articulate it as well as him and the author of the parable, so thanks for that. I completely agree with your position: no matter how u got here, it’s up to you to help pull yourself out.
Please never use the phrase "I have never been quite smart enough." It may tale you longer to learn something but you definitely have the capacity to learn anything you put your mind to.
The problem is more nuanced than the Parable of the Pedestrian, even though the conclusion of that parable is absolutely a significant part of the solution. In Coleman's explanation, it's clear that the perpetrator could absolutely pay for that therapy - which Coleman himself explicitly states. Let's be real here, welfare is not therapy; welfare is the absolute minimum needed to sustain a horrible environment without mass starvation or externalizing crime. Welfare is no where near being therapeutic. And because American refuses to provide / pay for that therapy, the same impoverished neighborhoods and cultures that are poverty/crime ridden will continue indefinitely. That is not the fault of welfare, that is a fault of failing to recognize and provide the THERAPY needed to move an entire population out of the poverty/crime cycles they were forced into. And the longer it takes America to confront and rectify this social disease the more it is going to cost America in the long run.
The parable doesn't mention though about the people who may have taken care of themselves before the car hit them, and now have to deal with this b.s., it seems like if you don't do the therapy you might be considered bad and if you do the therapy it means you are good. People struggle all the time with their circumstances, not just for a certain given amount of time and that's it. People try to make their lives better already, it doesn't just boil down to certain timespan. *shrug*
he is trending on TH-cam right now probably because people want to hear an opposing side to the ‘loud’; which is good, I’ve stumbled on his statements and some does make sense. But these comment sections that are leaning towards him, are you even willing to really hear the other side though? There is obviously a reason it is loud. Don’t dismiss the loud because they sound emotional. seriously I get logic (and the ‘loud’ has AMAZING logic;) but why are people dismissing emotions these days? does his ‘unemotional’ statement calm you more for some unbiased reason? Btw no one is unemotional
@@dpflifeveryonecared Because emotional decisions tend to be the the wrong decisions and the ones we regret later on. It stems from our amygdala, which is in the primitive (mammalian) part of our brain. I am not unwilling to hear the other side, I used to be on the other side.
@@TheMystery51 thank you for your response. I am just trying to figure this out, and the balance between emotions and logic in changing the system. I am also currently challenging my thoughts and moving from the 'other side'. so are you saying that logical decisions stem from a different part of our brain ?
I really appreciate the length and peaceful nature of this interview. This guy is so knowledgeable, and we’d never get to hear his ideas on a 30 second shouting match on CNN or FOX.
some of what the media has shown that don’t adhere to his statements are also actual facts. are you distinguishing the two with your own bias without hearing disagreement sides from other black people who also have had higher education and spent their lifetimes on researching systematic racism?
@@dpflifeveryonecared Lol, which of his statements are you disputing and what is your actual argument? Your assertion that I am biased is not an argument, and saying other people have other opinions is obvious and also not an actual argument. He has presented his case and his facts clearly. You have presented no case and no facts.
@@norawheeler2555 sincerely, my bad, i jumped on your comment with a biased-based question, sorry for not writing down some facts that don't adhere. I am just figuring this issue out and came upon this video, and was confused. His argument states facts that are very true, but I have also read the correlation and the connection from systematic racism that stemmed from generations above to the current society and it is the occurring current stereotypes and racism that continues to oppress black people, even now. He mentions a hypothetical cultural tendencies that there may be groups of people that do work harder; but culture and skin color are two different things. I have African American friends and friends from different countries of Africa, and most of them do blame the systematic problems that have affected their households on the past just based on skin color; but their culture and work ethic are very different. I agree the blame game doesn't help anyone in society, and victimizing yourself stops you from actually becoming a better self. I hope that instead of debating racism and sexism, which is a real thing; we can come to a point to debate real issues. In where I'm from, Korea, a monoculture. I can see that Americans do put more energy in figuring out their place in society. Also; I just came off Instagram because I was tired of the media, and challenged you in terms of challenging myself to put msyelf some sense in distinguishing different propaganda. Anyways, thank you for reading and responding.
@@dpflifeveryonecared Thanks for your reply. In the US, there are a lot of statements in the media these days that are biased and it is hard to see any truth. I would think you have similar issues where you are from but I don't know. I wish you the best in trying to figure it out on your side.
@@dpflifeveryonecared Hi. Since you are just barely figuring the issue out, might I suggest starting off without the assumption that African-Americans are continuesly/currently oppressed. Not saying that they are/are not. I'll leave that up to you to decide as you continue to learn both sides. Keep in mind that while African-American oppression during slavery is a historical fact, modern day oppression of African-Americans is the question at hand. I believe this departure point helps with providing both sides equal consideration. Assuming that African-Americans are continuesly/currently oppressed envelopes you into a side that you may feel compelled to defend when you hear opposition. All the while not really understanding the side you are defending. Just a friendly suggestion. 🙂
For being so young, I am amazed at how well informed and articulate Coleman is. I see a really bright future for him and hope black kids emulate him more than the pretend gang banging rappers. So much potential just going to waste.
You can tell how intelligent Coleman is. Not only his vocabulary, but also the way he explains his positions simply and clearly. So great to listen to.
VirtuousGlean and sometimes i agree with donald trump. sure as hell doesnt mean we're the same person to an entire nation. coleman vs hillary would be unfair, even if they held the same beliefs (which they dont) because people view hillary as a washed up tool and they see coleman as a young, bright man who has america's best interest in mind. c'est de la politique.
If you think transferring tons of reparation cash to people who aren't used to wealth is a good idea, just look at how most lottery winners go broke within 5 years.
@@cordwainerbird5550 I'm waiting to hear a smart one. One lump sum - lottery problem. Payments over time - will make no significant impact and could even hurt employment rates. Affirmative action for high paying positions - just see if college acceptance rates has curbed high school drop rates. Again I'm open to any coherent argument, I just haven't heard one yet.
@@em3sis This is why the matter requires serious STUDY! There are various intelligent ways to distribute reparations monies. One way might be to gather some of the most financially knowledgeable Blacks from the corporate world to create a viable S&P 500 level business entity where Blacks could advance thru merit without regard to race and color... FOR REAL! The Black brain trust should work to set up many Blacks in workable business ventures with unlimited advisement and training. This is not a matter "arguments". It's a matter of common sense, empowerment and achievements. Not just handing large sums of money to incompetent ignorant hands! All this needs to be studied carefully!
@@cordwainerbird5550 let me make sure I understand correctly... you think a viable solution is to have a group of individuals who share race to create a successful business enterprise and exclusively hire people from their own race without government intervention. Did I misunderstand you?
@@MrBenji1059 Coleman is more a fan of Harris than Obama. It is safe to assume, he consumes more of Harris' content than Obama's. Thus the valid comparison with Harris.
Love this. Coleman your a credit to the academic community!!! You have no agenda just analysis and facts. No bias unfounded political opinions. Great stuff
I like how he communicates and appreciate how he thinks. That being said, I like the way Ibram Kendi thinks more in terms of his point about West Indian immigrants vs. Black Americans around 9:31. Immigrants in general earn more across races, because as he said, there are immigration selection affects. In reality, As Kendi suggests in his book, the question should not be (as Hughes poses) "Why are Black immigrants doing better than African Americans?" but instead "Why do Black immigrants not earn as much as white immigrants?"
Its crazy this guy just graduated this year. Its so nice to hear discussions on Black America that involve data and nuance and not just people screaming at each other that BLM or not. Sadly he doesn't really advocate for reform or changes in policy and all the knuckleheads come out in droves to use his neutrality as evidence that racism doesn't exist and black people can fix everything themselves. 🤦♂️
Its not that racism does not exist: his point is that systemic racism, if it indeed does exist, has little to no impact on blacks success, as he illustrated with the comparison between descendants of slaves and west indian black immigrants.
This has been my experience when talking to people who reference Thomas Sowell and Coleman Hughes. They were trying to prove to me that systemic racism is not a problem.
Holy shit this guy is blowing me away. Just randomly clicked on the video expecting more of the same "Everything is the other side's fault and only radical change will fix it" and got the complete opposite. For someone to be this young and this level-headed and this well-spoken is extremely rare. He's examining tricky topics with a practical approach while keeping an eye on morality. Great stuff.
@@nathanc7566 Owens doesn’t cite her sources enough, in my opinion. She gets emotional during debate and uses inflammatory and even hyperbolic language when she doesn’t need to.
What is systemic racism 7:40 How to test for systemic racism 8:40 Some cultural differences as a result of historic racism 14:51 Higher rates of incarceration means higher rates of crime 22:05
Coleman Huges is one of the most articulate black men I listen to. The trouble with a scientific approach to understanding racism is it's not objective. Researchers find data to prove a hypothesis. So what happens is you miss the depth of the context. At the same time, I love what he contributes to the conversation.
@@salemthemerciless It was by David Carroll named "What has the GOP done for blacks". Unfortunately the video is not currently on TH-cam. Every black person in America needs to see that video.
I like how he acknowledges culture is a factor, but in a much more informed way than I see a lot of conservatives do and generally imply a genetic defect with black ppl. He also recognizes how the experience of black ppl in America tend to put them at a disadvantage when compared to black immigrants. Definitely gonna look more into this guy
i get it the alt right says it plain and simple. Conservatives strongly imply it by denying systemic issues that affect communities even exist. They deny every factor except for ones saying it’s something intrinsically wrong with the ppl themselves. Most of the alt rights arguments are identical to conservatives with the addition of blatant racism in place of implied
I heard recently an excellent quote from a black woman quoting her grandmother on AO’s channel: “you’re born looking like your father. You die looking like your decisions”
Exclusion from FHA loans and thereby equity building was an important part of the cause of the wealth gap, but not, as he suggests, the entire cause. Another big effect of FHA policy was that during de-industrialization, high-paying manufacturing jobs moved out of the inner cities to the suburbs. White workers were able to follow those jobs out and buy houses with FHA loans, while Black workers were not. Lacking that opportunity, many Black workers were left in hollowed out inner cities and subject to the resultant spiral of urban decay and concentration of poverty and unemployment. I suspect that this phenomenon may have been a more important result from FHA policy that contributed to the wealth gap.
You’re leaving out a primary factor in the acceleration of those manufacturing jobs leaving the inner city. Remember those riots of the lates 60’s? Detroit in ‘67?
@@willpower3317 You're correct that the riots that broke out in the late 60s had the effect in many cases of accelerating flight of jobs from the inner cities. My comment wasn't meant to be a comprehensive treatise on the social changes of the postwar period. To be precise, the riots occurred well after this phenomenon of de-industrialization began and were, in many ways, a reaction against those very changes. Redlining started officially with the FHA act of 1934 and the process I describe was well under way in the 1950s, particularly after the interstate Highway Act. In any event, I only wanted to add context here and to suggest that the labor implications of FHA policy in the context of de-industrialization were likely more important in creating/exacerbating wealth disparities than the direct impact on equity accumulation that he talks about. Ta-Nehisi Coates has written extensively about this as well, but also seems to leave out the labor aspect of it.
@@ianharris2370 “a reaction against those very changes” -I don’t think the evidence supports this. Prior to ‘67, the rate of black homeownership was higher than any other black urban population in the country. Black unemployment in Detroit was only 3.4%. “Feeling” oppressed is not being oppressed, but, of course, I wasn’t alive and can only go by the data. I have no doubt that Coates “left out” this information....
@@willpower3317 respectfully, I have a different understanding of the economic situation in Detroit in 1967, although would love to learn more. My mother grew up in Detroit in the post-war period and her father worked for GM. My understanding is that the Black unemployment rate in 1967 in Detroit before the first riot was 6.7%, and roughly twice as high as White unemployment (is your 3.4% statistic for all workers or for White workers?), and that Black auto workers were laid off disproportionately after the war as a result of seniority rules. There had already been significant flight of jobs to the suburbs. Your figure for Black homeownership is compatible with what I've read (and likely due to benefits related to high union membership at the time), but still only half of the White homeownership rate at the time, housing was racially segregated (fueled in part by FHA policy), and home values were markedly discrepant. I think these data would support why people would "feel" oppressed.
@@ianharris2370 I stand corrected. 3.4% was the total unemployment rate, but I don’t view disparate outcomes as proof of discrimination-I need more than aggregate data. In any case, economists don’t agree about everything that happened either so I understand those who see it a bit differently.
Besides Coleman’s voice (very calm, soft spoken, non-aggressive...), the rest is a little bit different. For example, Sam Harris often uses strong adjectives: “fantastic”, "horrible situation", “trash”, “totally wrong”, etc. while Coleman goes more by “what I think”, “I still don’t see”… When it comes to body language, leg positioning is the same, but Coleman uses his hands very differently. He uses his fingers a lot (thumb, index), for example to convey sample size or refer to different categories; much closer in this regard to Jordan Peterson. Sam makes wider movements with his hands and his arms. Finally, Coleman comes up as extremely neutral, accurate, non-emotional… while Sam Harris smiles more and is also more assertive: rises his eyebrow a lot, asks direct defiant questions to the interviewer, keeps more eye-contact, etc. I feel like Coleman’s style might work even better for discussing controversial topics such as racism. In the battle of ideas, nobody can change your mind. Only you change your own mind.
@@olemew No one can match Harris's eyebrow. hahah yeah Coleman definitely does the index-thumb gestures more in particular. I think he's probably influenced by Sam's communication style, but obviously there are variations. Also, as much as I love Coleman, Sam is definitely the better comedian.
Thank you for this video. I will definitely be following this young man. Thomas Sowell had done at least one study on Irish Americans. How they also suffered racism, hellish poverty, the potato famine, indentured servitude. Basically, no one has the corner market on suffering. I'm Mexican American. We also have struggled in America with crime, poverty, etc. But what ai believe has kept us afloat was faith in GOD, for the most part a strong work ethic, and Family. Family is huge in the Mexican community. We help each other. And that I think has helped the community to keep moving the " links " forward. Again, we still have huge problems( look @ the Cartels in Mexico ). But I will continue to pray for the black community. I believe if the Fathers stepped up, taught their sons about Jesus, responsibility, being there through the good and the bad, change would be huge! Just my opinion and I could be totally wrong. GOD bless everyone. John 3:16. He is coming...
It’s not the first time I watch Coleman Hughes and every time it’s a pleasure to listen to him. Such educated, intelligent young bloke. If he improves his speaking skills he can run for a president one day!
He provided no tangible solutions. Reparations is a system to repair injustices, it often requires money, but doesn’t solely mean transferring cash to the group that was discriminated against.
Coleman, host, editor, please do a part two and address the very glaring disparity between ethic groups and age groups (generations) with respect to the rare at which people are married and stay married. Scholars like Dr Derity do not even touch on marriage, though it is massively correlated with wealth. How can you ignore the massive statistical gap when it comes to rates of marriage and divorce? This easily accounts for a significant lack of wealth creation.
Home run! So refreshing to see someone articulate an unpopular opinion with being disrespectful or condescending to the opposing side. I would love to see more guys like Mr. Hughes share their opinions. 10/10
To me this is a more practical and relevant deviation of Thomas Sowell's perspective. Not that I wholly disagree with Sowell. This is just much more palatable and practical because it's more simple.
Spectacular! They covered so much. Everything was well thought out and perfectly articulated. Instead of anecdotal evidence, he provided stats and historical evidence.
The parable of the pedestrian is a great way to approach something that's so hard to say, and makes me so sorry. It's what I wish I could apologize for. The racism, the trauma, the slavery, the damage, can't be healed with anything obvious or direct. I've had physical therapy and there are parts of you that get injured for no apparent reason, because the origin is somewhere else. Shoulders can be injured because knees aren't doing their job, and PT really hurts, and you have to do it every day, and it sucks.
Impressed and not surprised by people of his generation. I appreciate his rational approach to the conversation, that he hasn't made it politcal and he circles includes people who challenge his arguments. Great job by interviewer too.
Coleman Hughes is very bright, but I find it weird how he relegates systematic racism to modern discriminatory practice and then perfectly explains how the historical affects of slavery and Jim Crow on the black community manifest problems in black culture, today. Systemic racism includes the sins of Americas past, and although history can't be changed the government has resources to affect peoples lives much quicker than a grassroots movement rooted in individualism. I do agree that a reparations check wouldn't fix the problems in our community, but I would like to know what his opinions would be on government incentive programs. To me, incentive programs would be the way to go.
I'll ask an easy question that isn't designed to challenge your idea, but to make you think about it in a different way - if he's wrong about culture rather than systemic mistreatment, how did the Asian, Indian and other once-maligned and mistreated immigrants succeed (and even surpass whites) without incentive programs? Perhaps this isn't a role of government at all.
@learning sharin - I question that argument of "above average" or "the best" when it comes to Vietnamese immigrants. They came from a war-torn nation, and their status was merely being on the losing side of a war. Yet within a generation, their income surpasses white American income. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income White $61,349 All households $57,617 Vietnamese American : $67,800 (excluding Foreign Born) Vietnamese American : $64,191
This is a semantic argument. I often attribute "historic racism" to the conditions black Americans face today. But at the same time, "systemic" or "institutional" racism I find more and more nebulous. It's been 50 years since housing and civil rights laws tried to set those "historically" racist practices. Yet there's been very little movement in terms of disparities (wealth gaps, incarceration gaps, etc. - which are largely the same now as in 1960). So if we want to admit the "cultural" problems are hangover from slavery and Jim Crow, I'm with folks. But when can community's rid themselves of cultural set-backs? I'm all for incentive-based, class-based programs to help alleviate poverty. If higher education or training, for instance, is "HALF OFF" for low-income people, then maybe people would be drawn to those areas. We have to be smart. We haven't been.
David Shuey Income and wealth are two different things. White folks have the generational wealth because of their constant affirmative action demands from a government they historically controlled.
He is obviously highly intelligent and highly educated. I think the interviewer did an excellent job not interrupting him and he did an excellent job being clear and specific with his words. More discourse with this level of information and eloquence may help save the world ♡
I was very intrigued about Hughes' commentary about West Indian/Caribbean immigrants performing better than their African American counterparts. As a computer science major at a top historically black college, I found that many of my classmates were West Indian. It was very clear from the beginning they had a better high school education than most of the African Americans. They tested out of a lot of the freshman and sophomore math courses and, from what I understand, their schools are based on the British school system which emphasises academic specialisation far earlier than the avg US school (if at all). Hughes' acknowledges that Caribbean immigrants coming to the US are the "cream of the crop" but he falls short in acknowledging the weight of this variable. I also found some interesting research that shows that the median income Caribbean immigrant is 10K higher than the African Americans but still lower (8K) than the overall medium income of Americans and almost 20K lower than White households (61K). So I think he may discount the fact that they are doing better simply because they are by and large the cream of the crop of their home country and come from superior education systems. They likely are still suffering from systemic racism just as much as African Americans. www.pewsocialtrends.org/2015/04/09/chapter-1-statistical-portrait-of-the-u-s-black-immigrant-population/ I find that he is also a bit dishonest about the Boston study he mentions. "The household median net worth was $247,500 for whites; $8 for US blacks; $12,000 for Caribbean blacks; $3,020 for Puerto Ricans; and $0 for Dominicans." 12K USD is a hell of a lot better than 8 USD but neither stack up to 247K USD. www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/12/11/that-was-typo-the-median-net-worth-black-bostonians-really/ze5kxC1jJelx24M3pugFFN/story.html
Why would you expect the net worth of recent immigrants from relatively poor Caribbean countries to be comparable to that of non recently-immigrated whites? You wouldn't, right? Sure, the fact that blacks from the Caribbean do so much better than their American counterparts in no way proves that racism doesn't exist, just that there are other factors at play. I agree that the self-selection 'cream of the crop' variable probably plays a significant part, but culture is also key. You could make the same comparison with east Asian immigrants. Many come from poor backgrounds, are a racial minority in the U.S. and yet, within a short space of time, out-perform the majority racial group. Once again, they could be succeeding in spite of racism. Or is racism targeted at one race only? What such comparisons suggest is that if African Americans could somehow behave similarly to Caribbean or Asian immigrants they might get similar outcomes (minus the self-selection affect). This isn't rocket science. In fact, it's a statement of the obvious to suggest that you might become successful by doing what successful people do... studying at school, obeying the law, working hard and delaying self-gratification - for starters.
What I love about this is that it teaches me (us) accountability while acknowledging that there may be factors that oppose your path to success. Yeah racism may be a thing, but it’s isn’t an excuse to not do all you can to succeed regardless and it’s isn’t the prominent determinant in how far we go. He managed to do this without disrespecting or talking down to the black community. It’s more so like a logical and unbiased view on cultural factors that we can actually change to move forward. I love it.
Racism is mainly a past problem with lingering consequences. If those in government and academia considered it as such instead of riling up the unthinking masses, we could all work together to make life better for all people. This is not to say you will not find the odd racist person as you travel through your life, but these people are shunned from society now rather then being those in power. The myth that systemic racism is the cause for every different outcome between different people will cause nothing but more hatred and division.
Anyone on a Coleman binge? Just came across him recently and I've never seen someone speak with such clarity and knowledge on this subject. He's done his research, knows the statistics inside out, doesn't succumb to an emotive agenda, and just spits straight facts and rationality. Guy has a very bright future, maybe in politics
I'm a black male, registered Democrat and I have become a fan of this guy recently. He's does a very good job of analyzing the significance of culture and personal responsibility. Hes saying things that NEED to be said. The left-wing victimhood crowd has no answers. The helpless victimhood dogma only cripples us (which i suspect its intended to do). Its time to reevaluate our thinking and strategy about how to overcome racist barriers.
This guy misses a lot, but I'm going to highlight the segment of Caribbean people. He stated they have a more progressive culture, which is confusing to me noticing the state of things for them in their own countries! West Indians normally outperform domestic Blax solely for the sake of distinction! They often utilize xenophobia as a motivator to not be mistaken for an American Blaq person. Their culture isn't any less toxic than ours
Coleman is saying the same things I've been saying for 40 years. He's more articulate. People are also willing to listen to him, because of the pigment of his skin. As disappointed as I am in the circumstances, I'm glad people are listening to someone. Coleman, as long as they're listening, keep talking. When they stop listening, talk louder.
The variable missed in the black person from west indian immigrants is that immigrants always outperform natives virtually across the board. People who immigrate represent some of the "grittiest" of their demographic. Forced immigration (slavery) is not through taking its toll especially when you add on racist policies and practices over the last 200 years. We're not even close to being out of the woods on this issue. It's barely been two generations.
You missed it. It's mentioned in 11:30. Also, you're proving that the grittiest can achieve the American dream. And the uncanny correlation between single parenthood, high school diploma and poverty is overlooked by leftists again and again.
I just started listening to this guy and the point he brought up West Indian Blacks compared to Black Americans is completely right and first person I've ever seen make it. I am a first Generation American both of my parents born and raised in Jamaica. There is just a fundamental difference in values generally in the way West Indian parents raise compared to what I've seen in black Americans. Way more strict household more akin to what you see in a stereotypical Asian or African household. Obviously there are exception but I've seen so many of my family come to this country and build amazing lives for themselves and their Children me being one of the beneficiaries.
It’s a bit unfair to compare honestly. Especially when the cultures are very different and the issues black Americans had to go through in their own country doesn’t compare at all.
I'm so glad there is someone to articulate these concepts, especially about culture. I hope Blacks can listen to this. Changing a culture is no easy task, however, it starts with individuals who work on themselves and stop continuing negative patterns. No one can do that work for them, but I'm glad there are those like Coleman who can teach and inspire.
Get his point but I think the laziness and backward cultural elements came from being allowed to own people and have them do all their hard work instead of themselves, rather than being from a given country.
@@cconnolly2205 if your point was correct then wouldn't you expect the laziness problem as you call it to be more widespread in the white community than the black community? I mean there was a small number of southern blacks who owned slaves. But unless you can show that roughly 95 percent of all black people descended from that small group of people, the point seems incorrect to me.
My god, this was such an eye opening, intellectually honest discussion. I feel that if everyone listens to this with open minds, there should be less disagreement b/t the Right and the Left. Then perhaps we'll have the greater common ground and understanding necessary to work together and effectively address race issues. Coleman Hughes needs a larger platform.
So I think you missed his point there. What is being raised is that the ownership of those items runs counterintuitive to the lower income and lower wealth statistic. The purchasing behaviours is an explanatory factor for why there is a difference in outcome.
@@k.w.1459 I agree that it's true and is certainly more conspicuous. But, the point would be that if you're interested in improving your outcomes financially, perhaps an expensive necklace or sneakers isn't the right path.
"How is reparations going to fix the taboo of academic achievement?" - Coleman Hughes Riddle me that Black Lives Matter. SO sad, all the thousands who organize to protest, and they're protesting for the wrong things and not having meaningful discussions That can actually create change and progress.
how are they protesting for the wrong things? What are the wrong things? What are the meaningful discussions do you think they need to have? I think meaningful discussions are being held in every part of society currently, even in homes.
@@CedricOfflayStrong I agree however they are doing that In such a chaotic, disorganized, emotional way that its almost pointless and hurts the movement. If you go to black lives matter official website, one of the first things you see is #DefundThePolice which in their perspective means ultimately remove current police system. How does this help poor communities? If the Police system needs reform, Which it does, then that will require MORE funds and MORE training. Also if you go to the BLM website, they do not provide any statistics, inforgraphs, or any resources that might help more people join their cause or help create solutions. On their 'About' page they layout a very vague set of 'values' that they believe in, and in some ways they contradict themselves. Also all their donations funnels through a company called 'ActBlue' that is essentially a charity for the Democratic political party and Democrat politicians. The same politicians that haven't fixed a damn thing in these downtrodden communities. Finally, the biggest problem with all this, is the continuing of separating Black people vs White people. No where on their Website does it say American Families, American Communities, Americans in poverty. They keep making this a Race Issue, only because it was in the past. Today its no longer a race issue, its a culture issue and the 'Black' Community or the 'Black' Culture is essentially anti 'American' culture' because they have been tricked into thinking 'America is racist towards black'. In the past it was, and then it was racist only in the south, and now its so minimal today that its almost irrelevant in determining success. There are more important issues to correct. Why in the black communities do they have a hierarchy based on their own skin color? (light skinned dark skinned etc) Why do they call those with good grades and who speak eloquently as 'Oreos' or 'Uncle Tom"?? You can make any and all changes to the system however it is still up to the individual on how he progress through that system, and that individual is more impacted by the immediate family and immediate community rather than the entire Social Structure as a whole. Its like calling an Automobile racist because the driver is racist. No the vehicle is an inanimate system that is controlled by individuals. And instead of removing the racist driver or creating reform, they want to burn down the entire vehicle and rebuild something new. The Car is fine! infact its great, people just need to realize that they can drive it if they so desire, but that takes an effort to LEARN the system and understand it instead blame the individuals in it. And this is where Group identity politics comes into play which is incredibly, historically dangerous (Bolshevik revolution, Maoist revolution, Etc).
@@exploringminds_ Going on his show will massively increase your exposure. Possible pipeline to Rogan as well. Not that I can promise anything, but as far as youtube goes, seems like pretty much the road to 100K subs.
My two cents to the conversation as someone who worked in a middle school in the Bronx in a capacity that allowed me to see information cards on families. The majority of West Indies blacks checked off Caucasian as their race. This guy is very smart. Been listening to him for quite a while.
They are day and night. This guy is always calm, non-emotional, soft spoken, doesn't use provocative terms or strong adjectives, etc. and never sounds pretentious, arrogant. He is not trying to DESTROY you with FACTS and LOGIC. How effective do you think is Ben Shapiro changing minds?
@@olemew not good at changing minds of people who already have established beliefs about the world that they refuse to change. However, no one can get through to these people. In regards to young people or people who are just beginning to learn about politics, then I think he does a really good job of educating them about certain viewpoints and topics using logic and facts. He does contradict himself occasionally or go too far based on an emotional reaction. However, he will admit when he was wrong in the past, which is a good trait
@@timothysnow5 In any case, their communication styles are completely different. There might be an audience out there waiting to be convinced by Ben Shapiro, but that's never been my experience. Too fast, too furious. However, he is probably valuable at providing arguments and facts for conservatives to use with friends, coworkers, and so on.
I am disappointed by the number of people here who think that they should chide Michele because she didn't know the meaning of the word eugenics. 15:00 But I offer considerable kudos to her for not being pretentious nor feeling any shame in not knowing the meaning of the word. This is refreshing. Just plain honesty on her part. Humble. It gives me an even greater inclination to search out more of her material. And how does Coleman react? Without batting an eye, or indicating surprise, he calmly explains what the word means and moves along with his presentation. Good on both of them. I can learn something from both of these people.
I don't agree with everything the brother says, but brothers like this need to be promoted instead of movie stars, rappers and basketball players.
As a young black man from Oakland, California I wasn't surrounded by this type of thinking. Honestly, i was critical of this man but the more I LISTENED, the more sense he made.
Honestly, I believe this man is trying to reach out to black folks (especially the MEN) and unlock the POTENTIAL that's there.
I've encountered so many folks that use social injustice as a crutch, it sickens me. I am raising 3 black children and I cannot afford to saturate their minds with that bullshit.
I have been thinking about what this whole victim / oppressed narrative says to young kids hearing it. Not just black people, but everyone needs to listen to black academics to see black people aren't a monolith who all think the same. Seeing black people with different opinions get called "Uncle Tom" or "sell outs" is racist as hell and clunterproductive. I'd like to see this man run for presidency one day. 🙏
Your absolutely right.
@sarah freethinking notrump noleftysjw I agree with everything you said except about Trump. Critical Race Theory in our schools and institutions is to blame for this first and foremost - and Trump is the only one taking action against it. He has already cut federal funding to any federal agency teaching this.
Jessica MacDonald if only half of the political conversations were had in this manner, Americans as a whole, would be far better off. It’s nice to see that we can agree to disagree and be respectful to each other.
You don’t have to preface your admiration for someone by saying you don’t agree with everything they say-Not agreeing with someone is slight.
I don't know who this woman is, but she's a skilled interviewer. I always appreciate someone who asks pertinent questions AND pertinent follow up questions, and allows the interviewee to speak. Wonderful interview.
And why she will not get many views. Controversy sells
The best interviewers don't make it 'about them'....but focus on hearing what the interviewee has to say.
I'm surprised that she didn't know what Eugenics is, that's common knowledge for anyone interested in political science or sociology.
oj drummin I think it was a question meant to explain to the viewers that don’t know.
@@biodrummindieseler it was for the viewers. Don't want to assume everyone is familiar with the term.
I appreciate this conversation, he understands the historical struggle of black communities but also don’t make excuses. Many times I hear just get over it not understanding the implications of policy. Culture definitely makes a difference. Great interview
I too like this guy so much for that. So many of the people who disagree with systemic racism don't bring empathy or historical understanding to the reasons that Black Americans do have disadvantages. Very balanced and rational conversation.
@@JDScott-pb2rs Totally agree man.
He is making excuses, blaming it on lack of police. Unfortunately, I think it has more to do with a high percentage of fatherless homes.
@@Verndoes which is due to systemic racism and policies that locked black fathers up and created those fatherless homes
U KNOW THAT'S A WAY TO KEEP BLAMING YOURSELF AND NOT THE PEOPLE THAT PUT US IN A OPPRESSIVE STATE. "bLaCk PeOpLe DoNt HaVe aNy CulTuRe" BlAcK pEoPle NeEd To cHaNgE oUr CulTuRe"🥴🥴🥴...THAT'S SO DAMN PSEUDO IN A REPARATIONS DECISION.
So hard to believe this brilliant young man is only in his early twenties!
It's hard to believe this young guy is young
That's because he spent his life working hard and learning while those selfish narcissists on the streets protesting never even tried.
Check out Tom Sowell, he was brilliant while young as well
it amazed me too. for some reason I had it in my head that he was a Dr. don't know why I thought that
@@xorenpetrosyan2879 Thomas Sowell is a national treasure.
Great interviewer. Clearly she’s done her homework on this guy, lets him speak, asks relevant questions.
She is also leading him to expanding on the topic. For example, the single mother question which I have been waiting on him to cover.
Giving credit to the interviewer?!? For an opinion you enjoyed hearing?!?
He’s the educated version of being woke. He’s awake.
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@Adam Alperstein
From Urban Dictionary:
"Agreeable. Admirable. Worthy of support.
Often used in contexts where the action or opinion ignores popular trends and social conventions or requires special effort.
Used either seriously or tongue-in-cheek to encourage eccentric behavior for comedic effect.
A: I threw away my TV. I only read books now.
B: That's based."
No he has common sense which sadly lots of people don't.
You are only saying this crap because he presents more as a white male stereotype. Just because you can't understand someone does not mean that they are not educated. In fact, you are the one who isn't educated in their ways.
@@justinwalker2460 Do you not think that describing him as being like a white male is in itself racism?
(Not trying to argue by the way, just asking).
This guy is the most well spoken man I have ever listened to. Every word he says has meaning and he is just so calm
And he's only 24. I hope his future is long and accomplished; he shows much more promise as a potential leader than that dunce ocasio-cortez and her ilk.
Let me introduce you to Jordan B. Peterson
@@Shoett94 JBP is so 2019. We've moved on to Coleman Hughes.
@@Shoett94 Peterson doesn't stack up. Peterson's ego and projection of a subtle character he is always playing seems to shine through, where Hughes seems completely himself and speaks with the perfect combination of confidence and humility.
It's why he was made fun of for sounding too "white" when he was in school
If we don't change our culture, money couldn't change anything.
I totally agree with and I would like to add is learn other cultures so we don't have culture clashes
What percntage of "our culture" would you guess this applies to?
@@johnmitchell7654 74.931%, why?
@@PAVANZYL a month has passed, better add more to that number.
@@Warclubz OK. 74.942%
Like they said of Thomas Sowell I will say of Mr. Hughes
"Here's a man who knows how to THINK!"
Thomas Sowell ? Lmao
Thomas Sowell is a flawed thinker. His promulgation of America's perverted version of capitalism and demonization of socialism is cringeworthy.
Great comp - a young Thomas Sowell
Rodney Ian Hatch - more cringe worthy than the 100+ million deaths that resulted from Marxist Socialism in the 20th century alone?
@@rodneyhatch56 Only an idiot would support socialism after its dismal performance in the 29th century.
I like that Mr. Hughes doesn't proselytize with the absolutism found in the speech of people trying to plant a flag on the Right or Left side of the political spectrum. Nuance doesn't sell in today's media and online communities, but I hope that Mr. Hughes will cultivate a following that may bring him and his views national exposure.
Well..sure, but Absolutism in opposition to absolute nonsense is no fault, but rather, is absolutely wonderful.
I’m an immigrant from the Caribbean and moved to the U.S. in my mid-teens. I remember what it was like to grow up in my country and I experienced the lowered expectations that were laid out for me when I moved to the U.S. I had to fight really hard and advocate for myself to be placed in the appropriate classes. That process took almost a month. Then, I was placed in the interesting position of “she’s Black but she’s not like the other Blacks.”
Those experiences continued and gave me a great appreciation for the plight of the descendants of enslaved Africans in the U.S. I came to understand why things were the way they are in the Black American community. My great grandparents up to my parents did not have to deal with segregation, Jim Crow, lynching, red lining, fighting in multiple wars and come back to a country where they are treated as second-class citizens. Black Americans had to adopt different survival skills in an environment that was meant to destroy and subjugate them. Let’s not forget that the Constitution of the U.S. (law of the land) clearly stated that Black slaves were 3/5 of a person and subsequent Supreme Court ruling stated that a Black person, whether free or enslaved, has no right that a White man is bound to respect. While that equation is no longer in the constitution and the Dred Scott decision was overturned, it took over a century of oppression, resistance, killings, injustice, and trauma to come to that point. Still, slavery is legal as a form of punishment. #13.
I’m for taking personal responsibility and achieving success. I also hate when the successes of Black immigrants are used in comparison with Black Americans because that negates the history of the people who had to fight and survive in the environment where they were enslaved and continued to be oppressed. Example: Black Wall Street. It seems to me that Black Americans could achieve success individually but any collective movement was met with brutal government sanctioned force.
The U.S. is unique in the sense that it is a country where specific races and cultures are expected to fulfill certain roles. For the most part around the world, people are people. An Asian child who is underperforming in school in Japan doesn’t become less Asian. And a Ugandan kid who is excelling in school does not cease to be Black. So, think about these things. Is it the people or the environment? Let’s be careful to not be dismissive while encouraging others to heal and grow. Answering why things are the way they are is how we get to how do we fix them.
wow what a long comment :D but I'm glad I read it. thanks for the effort!
Jakob H Thanks. Wanted to also address the inconsistencies in his logic but I didn’t want the write a longer comment.
I agree with most of your comment but not with the comparison between black immigrants and black American. I agree that all the systems have set the community back, however this generation and the generation before have not dealt with it. In my case I have family from Chicago and on my other side they are from the Caribbean. On my Caribbean side, they all moved to the us because they understand that in America, you have more opportunities. A large part of their success had to do with their culture. Very hard working. Where my Chicago side, my father had to move out because of the lack of encouragement and motivation in the community. I don’t think he was dismissing others in the video, but it is necessary to understand the differences. Love your comment btw
All over the world, people find ways to pigeon hole others. Japanese citizens of Korean descent are often looked down on by citizens of Japanese descent. The Untouchables in India are only recently seeing affirmative action. Not long ago, Irish Catholics and Irish Protestants were separated by class and hatred, mob violence and terrorism. It ain't just America.
Natalie Johnson Yes, thank you for your comment. Nonetheless, the U.S. needs to do better. All nations need to do better. Since the U.S. positioned itself as the leader of the world, it would be great if it sets a better example. And not through military intervention.
WOW! He just got the nail on the head!!!!! I’ve been trying to articulate the concept from the parable of the pedestrian for years. I’ve never quite been smart enough to articulate it as well as him and the author of the parable, so thanks for that. I completely agree with your position: no matter how u got here, it’s up to you to help pull yourself out.
Right on!!
Please never use the phrase "I have never been quite smart enough." It may tale you longer to learn something but you definitely have the capacity to learn anything you put your mind to.
The problem is more nuanced than the Parable of the Pedestrian, even though the conclusion of that parable is absolutely a significant part of the solution.
In Coleman's explanation, it's clear that the perpetrator could absolutely pay for that therapy - which Coleman himself explicitly states. Let's be real here, welfare is not therapy; welfare is the absolute minimum needed to sustain a horrible environment without mass starvation or externalizing crime.
Welfare is no where near being therapeutic. And because American refuses to provide / pay for that therapy, the same impoverished neighborhoods and cultures that are poverty/crime ridden will continue indefinitely. That is not the fault of welfare, that is a fault of failing to recognize and provide the THERAPY needed to move an entire population out of the poverty/crime cycles they were forced into.
And the longer it takes America to confront and rectify this social disease the more it is going to cost America in the long run.
The parable doesn't mention though about the people who may have taken care of themselves before the car hit them, and now have to deal with this b.s., it seems like if you don't do the therapy you might be considered bad and if you do the therapy it means you are good. People struggle all the time with their circumstances, not just for a certain given amount of time and that's it. People try to make their lives better already, it doesn't just boil down to certain timespan. *shrug*
@@chiefs816kc For some it come easier than others. She speaks for many people.
Where is this guy today he’s needed more now then ever
Check out his twitter. twitter.com/coldxman?s=20 He's active in there and you will find links to his podcasts and videos. Cheers!
he is trending on TH-cam right now probably because people want to hear an opposing side to the ‘loud’; which is good, I’ve stumbled on his statements and some does make sense. But these comment sections that are leaning towards him, are you even willing to really hear the other side though? There is obviously a reason it is loud. Don’t dismiss the loud because they sound emotional. seriously I get logic (and the ‘loud’ has AMAZING logic;) but why are people dismissing emotions these days? does his ‘unemotional’ statement calm you more for some unbiased reason? Btw no one is unemotional
@@dpflifeveryonecared Because emotional decisions tend to be the the wrong decisions and the ones we regret later on. It stems from our amygdala, which is in the primitive (mammalian) part of our brain. I am not unwilling to hear the other side, I used to be on the other side.
@@TheMystery51 thank you for your response. I am just trying to figure this out, and the balance between emotions and logic in changing the system. I am also currently challenging my thoughts and moving from the 'other side'. so are you saying that logical decisions stem from a different part of our brain ?
Yeri Kim I am also trying to educate myself and see this from different perspectives. That’s the best thing one can do right now in this chaos
I really appreciate the length and peaceful nature of this interview. This guy is so knowledgeable, and we’d never get to hear his ideas on a 30 second shouting match on CNN or FOX.
So great to hear actual facts instead of media propaganda.
some of what the media has shown that don’t adhere to his statements are also actual facts. are you distinguishing the two with your own bias without hearing disagreement sides from other black people who also have had higher education and spent their lifetimes on researching systematic racism?
@@dpflifeveryonecared Lol, which of his statements are you disputing and what is your actual argument? Your assertion that I am biased is not an argument, and saying other people have other opinions is obvious and also not an actual argument. He has presented his case and his facts clearly. You have presented no case and no facts.
@@norawheeler2555 sincerely, my bad, i jumped on your comment with a biased-based question, sorry for not writing down some facts that don't adhere. I am just figuring this issue out and came upon this video, and was confused. His argument states facts that are very true, but I have also read the correlation and the connection from systematic racism that stemmed from generations above to the current society and it is the occurring current stereotypes and racism that continues to oppress black people, even now. He mentions a hypothetical cultural tendencies that there may be groups of people that do work harder; but culture and skin color are two different things. I have African American friends and friends from different countries of Africa, and most of them do blame the systematic problems that have affected their households on the past just based on skin color; but their culture and work ethic are very different.
I agree the blame game doesn't help anyone in society, and victimizing yourself stops you from actually becoming a better self. I hope that instead of debating racism and sexism, which is a real thing; we can come to a point to debate real issues. In where I'm from, Korea, a monoculture. I can see that Americans do put more energy in figuring out their place in society.
Also; I just came off Instagram because I was tired of the media, and challenged you in terms of challenging myself to put msyelf some sense in distinguishing different propaganda. Anyways, thank you for reading and responding.
@@dpflifeveryonecared Thanks for your reply. In the US, there are a lot of statements in the media these days that are biased and it is hard to see any truth. I would think you have similar issues where you are from but I don't know. I wish you the best in trying to figure it out on your side.
@@dpflifeveryonecared Hi. Since you are just barely figuring the issue out, might I suggest starting off without the assumption that African-Americans are continuesly/currently oppressed. Not saying that they are/are not. I'll leave that up to you to decide as you continue to learn both sides. Keep in mind that while African-American oppression during slavery is a historical fact, modern day oppression of African-Americans is the question at hand. I believe this departure point helps with providing both sides equal consideration. Assuming that African-Americans are continuesly/currently oppressed envelopes you into a side that you may feel compelled to defend when you hear opposition. All the while not really understanding the side you are defending. Just a friendly suggestion. 🙂
This is such an underrated channel. Why are there only 2.2K subs? Keep up the good work!
Thank you Ag! Being a new channel, we appreciate your enthusiasm and support!
Because he is an idiot
@@jasonstein5560 how so?
For being so young, I am amazed at how well informed and articulate Coleman is. I see a really bright future for him and hope black kids emulate him more than the pretend gang banging rappers. So much potential just going to waste.
Exactly.
You can tell how intelligent Coleman is. Not only his vocabulary, but also the way he explains his positions simply and clearly. So great to listen to.
Coleman Hughes for president ! This is the leader that minorities need not Hilary or Bernie Sanders .
when he's old enough, and a little matured, then yeah.
also, he doesnt really like politics... maybe thats a good thing for president, though.
Coleman vs Candace
He agrees with Bernie Sanders.
VirtuousGlean and sometimes i agree with donald trump. sure as hell doesnt mean we're the same person to an entire nation. coleman vs hillary would be unfair, even if they held the same beliefs (which they dont) because people view hillary as a washed up tool and they see coleman as a young, bright man who has america's best interest in mind. c'est de la politique.
No he's not the leader we need, and far from it.
“Choice and blame are irrelevant” I think we all need this
"I'm not as funny as Dave Chapelle"... the way he said it was actually quite funny, and probably in a more redeeming way.
If you think transferring tons of reparation cash to people who aren't used to wealth is a good idea, just look at how most lottery winners go broke within 5 years.
Bingo
Why do people keep pretending that reparations money can only be distributed in stupid ways?
@@cordwainerbird5550 I'm waiting to hear a smart one. One lump sum - lottery problem. Payments over time - will make no significant impact and could even hurt employment rates. Affirmative action for high paying positions - just see if college acceptance rates has curbed high school drop rates.
Again I'm open to any coherent argument, I just haven't heard one yet.
@@em3sis This is why the matter requires serious STUDY! There are various intelligent ways to distribute reparations monies. One way might be to gather some of the most financially knowledgeable Blacks from the corporate world to create a viable S&P 500 level business entity where Blacks could advance thru merit without regard to race and color... FOR REAL!
The Black brain trust should work to set up many Blacks in workable business ventures with unlimited advisement and training. This is not a matter "arguments". It's a matter of common sense, empowerment and achievements. Not just handing large sums of money to incompetent ignorant hands! All this needs to be studied carefully!
@@cordwainerbird5550 let me make sure I understand correctly... you think a viable solution is to have a group of individuals who share race to create a successful business enterprise and exclusively hire people from their own race without government intervention.
Did I misunderstand you?
The similarity between Coleman's and Sam Harris's speaking style is uncanny.
I was going to say Obama. Especially that slight stammer & hand movements 🧐
I was literally just thinking this!!!!
I think they stutter... They do that to overcome it!
I stutter*
@@MrBenji1059 Coleman is more a fan of Harris than Obama. It is safe to assume, he consumes more of Harris' content than Obama's. Thus the valid comparison with Harris.
Spot on! The tone, the measured pace. I thought it was just me.
Love this. Coleman your a credit to the academic community!!!
You have no agenda just analysis and facts. No bias unfounded political opinions. Great stuff
I like how he communicates and appreciate how he thinks. That being said, I like the way Ibram Kendi thinks more in terms of his point about West Indian immigrants vs. Black Americans around 9:31. Immigrants in general earn more across races, because as he said, there are immigration selection affects. In reality, As Kendi suggests in his book, the question should not be (as Hughes poses) "Why are Black immigrants doing better than African Americans?" but instead "Why do Black immigrants not earn as much as white immigrants?"
Its crazy this guy just graduated this year. Its so nice to hear discussions on Black America that involve data and nuance and not just people screaming at each other that BLM or not. Sadly he doesn't really advocate for reform or changes in policy and all the knuckleheads come out in droves to use his neutrality as evidence that racism doesn't exist and black people can fix everything themselves. 🤦♂️
Its not that racism does not exist: his point is that systemic racism, if it indeed does exist, has little to no impact on blacks success, as he illustrated with the comparison between descendants of slaves and west indian black immigrants.
This has been my experience when talking to people who reference Thomas Sowell and Coleman Hughes. They were trying to prove to me that systemic racism is not a problem.
szeal he said so much more than that.
Holy shit this guy is blowing me away. Just randomly clicked on the video expecting more of the same "Everything is the other side's fault and only radical change will fix it" and got the complete opposite. For someone to be this young and this level-headed and this well-spoken is extremely rare. He's examining tricky topics with a practical approach while keeping an eye on morality. Great stuff.
I like that he disassociates with people like Candace Owens. He is going that academic route along the lines of the Thomas Sowel route.
whats wrong with owens?
Nothing: Owens greatly follows Sowell and bases her views on Sowells writing. She just amplifies him
Both Coleman and Candace have a lot to contribute. They are different, as they should be. They are different individuals.
@@nathanc7566 Owens is a politician, he's an intellectual. They have almost opposite goals.
@@nathanc7566 Owens doesn’t cite her sources enough, in my opinion. She gets emotional during debate and uses inflammatory and even hyperbolic language when she doesn’t need to.
I would love to see Coleman Hughes on "Uncomfortable Conversations with a black man" I think that would be epic
Uncomfortable Conversations....is such a lightweight. He does NOT speak for thinking black people. Coleman is AWESOME.
@@fasttl that's the point though and why Coleman Hughes would be awesome.
@@fasttl Agreed. I couldn’t get through more than 5 mins of it.
He Hughes will cry he has no clue he dumb
So refreshing to hear a sensible cultural argument! Have been saying this for a while now, the blame game is a never ending vicious cycle.
What is systemic racism 7:40
How to test for systemic racism 8:40
Some cultural differences as a result of historic racism 14:51
Higher rates of incarceration means higher rates of crime 22:05
That wasn't a good take on how to test for systemic racism.
After watching this clip, I watched your "about exploring minds" channel intro video. Subscribed. We need stuff like this badly.
This is the first salient, non condescending argument over heard against many common arguments made regarding racism and black issues in America.
Lincoln Ward lol...ever heard of Thomas Sowell?
@@stephenkenmey861 No, obviously he hasn't. Collectively, the American public has a memory that goes back five years at most.
It is very condescending. Unfortunately you didn't see it. Try again.
@@TheSycaman what part did you think was condescending
@@DieFlabbergast actually I have heard of him. I just haven't listened to him speak.
Coleman Huges is one of the most articulate black men I listen to. The trouble with a scientific approach to understanding racism is it's not objective. Researchers find data to prove a hypothesis. So what happens is you miss the depth of the context. At the same time, I love what he contributes to the conversation.
Stop saying "black man". You're belittling his brilliance by confining it to one ethnic group. Why not one of the most articulate men you listen to?
“Articulate black man” what an idiotic statement
@@SonOroSound As a black man I said it with pride. The irony is in your response.
He is a good actor
Incredible that he's so young. I look forward to following Coleman for decades to come.
Great points made @2:25. "Can reparations repair the underlying problems causing black underachievements?"
For Leftists,reparations destroy man the individual. Helping blacks is not their purpose
@Jacklynn Jackson You evade free will.
@Jacklynn Jackson Post Traumatic Slavery Syndrone
Well define underachievement... You're assuming that black people have the same goals as white people.
This is one of the two best videos I've ever watched on TH-cam. Simply Amazing.
What's the other ?
@@salemthemerciless It was by David Carroll named "What has the GOP done for blacks". Unfortunately the video is not currently on TH-cam. Every black person in America needs to see that video.
This is one of the few decent comment sections I have come across in a while.
I've been following Coleman Hughes for a few years now. Always a pleasure to listen to him.
Finally! Statistics and facts. This guy inspires me to think more deeply.
I like how he acknowledges culture is a factor, but in a much more informed way than I see a lot of conservatives do and generally imply a genetic defect with black ppl. He also recognizes how the experience of black ppl in America tend to put them at a disadvantage when compared to black immigrants. Definitely gonna look more into this guy
i get it the alt right says it plain and simple. Conservatives strongly imply it by denying systemic issues that affect communities even exist. They deny every factor except for ones saying it’s something intrinsically wrong with the ppl themselves. Most of the alt rights arguments are identical to conservatives with the addition of blatant racism in place of implied
This kid is stunningly articulate, I love it.
@@Xrre343k7a3s What was funny about my comment?
I heard recently an excellent quote from a black woman quoting her grandmother on AO’s channel: “you’re born looking like your father. You die looking like your decisions”
Exclusion from FHA loans and thereby equity building was an important part of the cause of the wealth gap, but not, as he suggests, the entire cause. Another big effect of FHA policy was that during de-industrialization, high-paying manufacturing jobs moved out of the inner cities to the suburbs. White workers were able to follow those jobs out and buy houses with FHA loans, while Black workers were not. Lacking that opportunity, many Black workers were left in hollowed out inner cities and subject to the resultant spiral of urban decay and concentration of poverty and unemployment. I suspect that this phenomenon may have been a more important result from FHA policy that contributed to the wealth gap.
You’re leaving out a primary factor in the acceleration of those manufacturing jobs leaving the inner city. Remember those riots of the lates 60’s? Detroit in ‘67?
@@willpower3317 You're correct that the riots that broke out in the late 60s had the effect in many cases of accelerating flight of jobs from the inner cities. My comment wasn't meant to be a comprehensive treatise on the social changes of the postwar period. To be precise, the riots occurred well after this phenomenon of de-industrialization began and were, in many ways, a reaction against those very changes. Redlining started officially with the FHA act of 1934 and the process I describe was well under way in the 1950s, particularly after the interstate Highway Act. In any event, I only wanted to add context here and to suggest that the labor implications of FHA policy in the context of de-industrialization were likely more important in creating/exacerbating wealth disparities than the direct impact on equity accumulation that he talks about. Ta-Nehisi Coates has written extensively about this as well, but also seems to leave out the labor aspect of it.
@@ianharris2370 “a reaction against those very changes” -I don’t think the evidence supports this. Prior to ‘67, the rate of black homeownership was higher than any other black urban population in the country. Black unemployment in Detroit was only 3.4%. “Feeling” oppressed is not being oppressed, but, of course, I wasn’t alive and can only go by the data.
I have no doubt that Coates “left out” this information....
@@willpower3317 respectfully, I have a different understanding of the economic situation in Detroit in 1967, although would love to learn more. My mother grew up in Detroit in the post-war period and her father worked for GM. My understanding is that the Black unemployment rate in 1967 in Detroit before the first riot was 6.7%, and roughly twice as high as White unemployment (is your 3.4% statistic for all workers or for White workers?), and that Black auto workers were laid off disproportionately after the war as a result of seniority rules. There had already been significant flight of jobs to the suburbs. Your figure for Black homeownership is compatible with what I've read (and likely due to benefits related to high union membership at the time), but still only half of the White homeownership rate at the time, housing was racially segregated (fueled in part by FHA policy), and home values were markedly discrepant. I think these data would support why people would "feel" oppressed.
@@ianharris2370 I stand corrected. 3.4% was the total unemployment rate, but I don’t view disparate outcomes as proof of discrimination-I need more than aggregate data. In any case, economists don’t agree about everything that happened either so I understand those who see it a bit differently.
I thought I had my bases covered, but this very young man taught me things today
It's eerie how similar his overall communication is to Sam Harris. Demeanor, vocal emphasis, cadences, physical gestures, even vocabulary.
Weird. I didn't notice it but now that you say it you are right on the money.
yeah, i picked up that too....i wonder if that’s intentional
Besides Coleman’s voice (very calm, soft spoken, non-aggressive...), the rest is a little bit different.
For example, Sam Harris often uses strong adjectives: “fantastic”, "horrible situation", “trash”, “totally wrong”, etc. while Coleman goes more by “what I think”, “I still don’t see”…
When it comes to body language, leg positioning is the same, but Coleman uses his hands very differently. He uses his fingers a lot (thumb, index), for example to convey sample size or refer to different categories; much closer in this regard to Jordan Peterson. Sam makes wider movements with his hands and his arms.
Finally, Coleman comes up as extremely neutral, accurate, non-emotional… while Sam Harris smiles more and is also more assertive: rises his eyebrow a lot, asks direct defiant questions to the interviewer, keeps more eye-contact, etc.
I feel like Coleman’s style might work even better for discussing controversial topics such as racism.
In the battle of ideas, nobody can change your mind. Only you change your own mind.
@@olemew No one can match Harris's eyebrow. hahah yeah Coleman definitely does the index-thumb gestures more in particular. I think he's probably influenced by Sam's communication style, but obviously there are variations. Also, as much as I love Coleman, Sam is definitely the better comedian.
Whoa never noticed that
How does this video not have over a million views yet? It's so informative and well thought out.
Thank you for this video. I will definitely be following this young man. Thomas Sowell had done at least one study on Irish Americans. How they also suffered racism, hellish poverty, the potato famine, indentured servitude. Basically, no one has the corner market on suffering. I'm Mexican American. We also have struggled in America with crime, poverty, etc. But what ai believe has kept us afloat was faith in GOD, for the most part a strong work ethic, and Family. Family is huge in the Mexican community. We help each other. And that I think has helped the community to keep moving the " links " forward. Again, we still have huge problems( look @ the Cartels in Mexico ). But I will continue to pray for the black community. I believe if the Fathers stepped up, taught their sons about Jesus, responsibility, being there through the good and the bad, change would be huge! Just my opinion and I could be totally wrong. GOD bless everyone. John 3:16. He is coming...
It’s not the first time I watch Coleman Hughes and every time it’s a pleasure to listen to him. Such educated, intelligent young bloke. If he improves his speaking skills he can run for a president one day!
Interviewer asked great questions and interviewee answered them very eloquently
He provided no tangible solutions. Reparations is a system to repair injustices, it often requires money, but doesn’t solely mean transferring cash to the group that was discriminated against.
Coleman, host, editor, please do a part two and address the very glaring disparity between ethic groups and age groups (generations) with respect to the rare at which people are married and stay married. Scholars like Dr Derity do not even touch on marriage, though it is massively correlated with wealth. How can you ignore the massive statistical gap when it comes to rates of marriage and divorce? This easily accounts for a significant lack of wealth creation.
So damn proud of how this young man has educated himself... It seems as if his ethics are impeccable throughout his speech and answers.... My brother
A man who does his homework. Doesn't just spout taglines like so many do today.
He does marketing. not homework. T Coates owned him in Congress.
Home run! So refreshing to see someone articulate an unpopular opinion with being disrespectful or condescending to the opposing side. I would love to see more guys like Mr. Hughes share their opinions. 10/10
To me this is a more practical and relevant deviation of Thomas Sowell's perspective. Not that I wholly disagree with Sowell. This is just much more palatable and practical because it's more simple.
Currently reading my first Sowell - Discrimination and Disparities and it's great but some parts go too deep for my brain 🙃🤔
Coleman has read the literature. Sowell WROTE the literature.
Spectacular! They covered so much. Everything was well thought out and perfectly articulated. Instead of anecdotal evidence, he provided stats and historical evidence.
This was very informative. I also like that it was academic in nature as opposed to political.
This young man is brilliant, we can only hope the world gets to hear more from him.
The parable of the pedestrian is a great way to approach something that's so hard to say, and makes me so sorry. It's what I wish I could apologize for. The racism, the trauma, the slavery, the damage, can't be healed with anything obvious or direct. I've had physical therapy and there are parts of you that get injured for no apparent reason, because the origin is somewhere else. Shoulders can be injured because knees aren't doing their job, and PT really hurts, and you have to do it every day, and it sucks.
Impressed and not surprised by people of his generation. I appreciate his rational approach to the conversation, that he hasn't made it politcal and he circles includes people who challenge his arguments. Great job by interviewer too.
He touches on many ideas expressed in the book Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell. Does a really good job too.
spencert21 Thomas Sowell wrote about this before Gladwell.
winston scott oh i wasn’t aware, havent done too much research on Sowell
spencert21 th-cam.com/play/PLYyZf1-fP8Bfr46HDxM4JTgXWs7egNlNV.html
Brilliant interview, I love the fact he builds rational arguments rather than just following emotions.
Very interested to hear that policing is not effective in solving black homicide...very important point.
Coleman Hughes is very bright, but I find it weird how he relegates systematic racism to modern discriminatory practice and then perfectly explains how the historical affects of slavery and Jim Crow on the black community manifest problems in black culture, today. Systemic racism includes the sins of Americas past, and although history can't be changed the government has resources to affect peoples lives much quicker than a grassroots movement rooted in individualism. I do agree that a reparations check wouldn't fix the problems in our community, but I would like to know what his opinions would be on government incentive programs. To me, incentive programs would be the way to go.
I'll ask an easy question that isn't designed to challenge your idea, but to make you think about it in a different way - if he's wrong about culture rather than systemic mistreatment, how did the Asian, Indian and other once-maligned and mistreated immigrants succeed (and even surpass whites) without incentive programs? Perhaps this isn't a role of government at all.
You couldn't have said it any better Mattwashere 2013
@learning sharin - I question that argument of "above average" or "the best" when it comes to Vietnamese immigrants. They came from a war-torn nation, and their status was merely being on the losing side of a war. Yet within a generation, their income surpasses white American income.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income
White $61,349
All households $57,617
Vietnamese American : $67,800
(excluding Foreign Born)
Vietnamese American : $64,191
This is a semantic argument. I often attribute "historic racism" to the conditions black Americans face today. But at the same time, "systemic" or "institutional" racism I find more and more nebulous. It's been 50 years since housing and civil rights laws tried to set those "historically" racist practices. Yet there's been very little movement in terms of disparities (wealth gaps, incarceration gaps, etc. - which are largely the same now as in 1960).
So if we want to admit the "cultural" problems are hangover from slavery and Jim Crow, I'm with folks. But when can community's rid themselves of cultural set-backs?
I'm all for incentive-based, class-based programs to help alleviate poverty. If higher education or training, for instance, is "HALF OFF" for low-income people, then maybe people would be drawn to those areas.
We have to be smart. We haven't been.
David Shuey Income and wealth are two different things. White folks have the generational wealth because of their constant affirmative action demands from a government they historically controlled.
He is obviously highly intelligent and highly educated. I think the interviewer did an excellent job not interrupting him and he did an excellent job being clear and specific with his words. More discourse with this level of information and eloquence may help save the world ♡
I was very intrigued about Hughes' commentary about West Indian/Caribbean immigrants performing better than their African American counterparts. As a computer science major at a top historically black college, I found that many of my classmates were West Indian. It was very clear from the beginning they had a better high school education than most of the African Americans. They tested out of a lot of the freshman and sophomore math courses and, from what I understand, their schools are based on the British school system which emphasises academic specialisation far earlier than the avg US school (if at all). Hughes' acknowledges that Caribbean immigrants coming to the US are the "cream of the crop" but he falls short in acknowledging the weight of this variable. I also found some interesting research that shows that the median income Caribbean immigrant is 10K higher than the African Americans but still lower (8K) than the overall medium income of Americans and almost 20K lower than White households (61K). So I think he may discount the fact that they are doing better simply because they are by and large the cream of the crop of their home country and come from superior education systems. They likely are still suffering from systemic racism just as much as African Americans. www.pewsocialtrends.org/2015/04/09/chapter-1-statistical-portrait-of-the-u-s-black-immigrant-population/ I find that he is also a bit dishonest about the Boston study he mentions. "The household median net worth was $247,500 for whites; $8 for US blacks; $12,000 for Caribbean blacks; $3,020 for Puerto Ricans; and $0 for Dominicans." 12K USD is a hell of a lot better than 8 USD but neither stack up to 247K USD. www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/12/11/that-was-typo-the-median-net-worth-black-bostonians-really/ze5kxC1jJelx24M3pugFFN/story.html
Why would you expect the net worth of recent immigrants from relatively poor Caribbean countries to be comparable to that of non recently-immigrated whites? You wouldn't, right? Sure, the fact that blacks from the Caribbean do so much better than their American counterparts in no way proves that racism doesn't exist, just that there are other factors at play. I agree that the self-selection 'cream of the crop' variable probably plays a significant part, but culture is also key.
You could make the same comparison with east Asian immigrants. Many come from poor backgrounds, are a racial minority in the U.S. and yet, within a short space of time, out-perform the majority racial group. Once again, they could be succeeding in spite of racism. Or is racism targeted at one race only? What such comparisons suggest is that if African Americans could somehow behave similarly to Caribbean or Asian immigrants they might get similar outcomes (minus the self-selection affect). This isn't rocket science. In fact, it's a statement of the obvious to suggest that you might become successful by doing what successful people do... studying at school, obeying the law, working hard and delaying self-gratification - for starters.
Coleman was talking about the 2nd generation.
yet the same isnt said for Nigerian immigrants
What I love about this is that it teaches me (us) accountability while acknowledging that there may be factors that oppose your path to success. Yeah racism may be a thing, but it’s isn’t an excuse to not do all you can to succeed regardless and it’s isn’t the prominent determinant in how far we go. He managed to do this without disrespecting or talking down to the black community. It’s more so like a logical and unbiased view on cultural factors that we can actually change to move forward. I love it.
Racism is mainly a past problem with lingering consequences. If those in government and academia considered it as such instead of riling up the unthinking masses, we could all work together to make life better for all people.
This is not to say you will not find the odd racist person as you travel through your life, but these people are shunned from society now rather then being those in power. The myth that systemic racism is the cause for every different outcome between different people will cause nothing but more hatred and division.
My goodness-normal dialogue does exist - very good !
I love how Michele is into this conversation. She really listens carefully.
Amazing interview. Incredibly pertinent for today. Thank you so much.
Anyone on a Coleman binge? Just came across him recently and I've never seen someone speak with such clarity and knowledge on this subject. He's done his research, knows the statistics inside out, doesn't succumb to an emotive agenda, and just spits straight facts and rationality. Guy has a very bright future, maybe in politics
Just discovered him! Check out Thomas Sowell, too!
He nailed it. He needs to run for president.
I'm a black male, registered Democrat and I have become a fan of this guy recently. He's does a very good job of analyzing the significance of culture and personal responsibility. Hes saying things that NEED to be said. The left-wing victimhood crowd has no answers. The helpless victimhood dogma only cripples us (which i suspect its intended to do). Its time to reevaluate our thinking and strategy about how to overcome racist barriers.
Me:**thinking I am fairly well spoken**
Hughes: “inculcated”
Me: (-_-) thank the heavens for context
spoken...
This guy misses a lot, but I'm going to highlight the segment of Caribbean people. He stated they have a more progressive culture, which is confusing to me noticing the state of things for them in their own countries!
West Indians normally outperform domestic Blax solely for the sake of distinction! They often utilize xenophobia as a motivator to not be mistaken for an American Blaq person. Their culture isn't any less toxic than ours
Finally someone black speaking the truth and not caring about someone's feelings
Coleman is saying the same things I've been saying for 40 years. He's more articulate. People are also willing to listen to him, because of the pigment of his skin.
As disappointed as I am in the circumstances, I'm glad people are listening to someone. Coleman, as long as they're listening, keep talking. When they stop listening, talk louder.
Bill just out of curiosity, what is it that you wanna say that the pigment of your is preventing from saying ? I'd love to hear it.
@Marni Maren of course not, everyones under attack through racism so therefore everyone has their guard up ready to be a keyboard warrior
The variable missed in the black person from west indian immigrants is that immigrants always outperform natives virtually across the board. People who immigrate represent some of the "grittiest" of their demographic. Forced immigration (slavery) is not through taking its toll especially when you add on racist policies and practices over the last 200 years. We're not even close to being out of the woods on this issue. It's barely been two generations.
You missed it. It's mentioned in 11:30. Also, you're proving that the grittiest can achieve the American dream. And the uncanny correlation between single parenthood, high school diploma and poverty is overlooked by leftists again and again.
I just started listening to this guy and the point he brought up West Indian Blacks compared to Black Americans is completely right and first person I've ever seen make it. I am a first Generation American both of my parents born and raised in Jamaica. There is just a fundamental difference in values generally in the way West Indian parents raise compared to what I've seen in black Americans. Way more strict household more akin to what you see in a stereotypical Asian or African household. Obviously there are exception but I've seen so many of my family come to this country and build amazing lives for themselves and their Children me being one of the beneficiaries.
It’s a bit unfair to compare honestly. Especially when the cultures are very different and the issues black Americans had to go through in their own country doesn’t compare at all.
You are an amazing host...Michelle such a breath of fresh air in today's day and age of noisy and judgemental hosts with a predetermined agenda
This guy is brilliant ! His arguments are powerful !
Young Thomas Sowell. 🙏🏻
Nope.
@@virtuousglean7216 Yep.
@@healthfadsfade
He's not a libertarian, so no.
@@virtuousglean7216 Ah very true. He is a fan of the "disparity doesn't=discrimination" train of thought though.. That's more what I meant.
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Ah ok lol. I'd compare to Sam Harris instead though, but maybe that's just me.
I'm so glad there is someone to articulate these concepts, especially about culture. I hope Blacks can listen to this. Changing a culture is no easy task, however, it starts with individuals who work on themselves and stop continuing negative patterns. No one can do that work for them, but I'm glad there are those like Coleman who can teach and inspire.
Dr. William "Sandy" Darity has done extensive research on Reparations and the wealth gap. Look up his work.
It would be great if more discussions could be handled like this. Calm, clear expressions of thought.
13:50 "backward elements they got from Scotland" i lol'ed
I lol'd too. But wtf man what's wrong with scots 😂
Get his point but I think the laziness and backward cultural elements came from being allowed to own people and have them do all their hard work instead of themselves, rather than being from a given country.
@@cconnolly2205 if your point was correct then wouldn't you expect the laziness problem as you call it to be more widespread in the white community than the black community? I mean there was a small number of southern blacks who owned slaves. But unless you can show that roughly 95 percent of all black people descended from that small group of people, the point seems incorrect to me.
My god, this was such an eye opening, intellectually honest discussion. I feel that if everyone listens to this with open minds, there should be less disagreement b/t the Right and the Left. Then perhaps we'll have the greater common ground and understanding necessary to work together and effectively address race issues. Coleman Hughes needs a larger platform.
Automobiles and jewelry are not wealth. Wealth is property that generates income.
So I think you missed his point there. What is being raised is that the ownership of those items runs counterintuitive to the lower income and lower wealth statistic. The purchasing behaviours is an explanatory factor for why there is a difference in outcome.
A car isn't wealth; However, jewelry is.
He compares his ways of wealth.
It’s easier to tote a necklace or $500 sneakers than a house. That’s what it’s about for a lot of people.
@@k.w.1459 I agree that it's true and is certainly more conspicuous. But, the point would be that if you're interested in improving your outcomes financially, perhaps an expensive necklace or sneakers isn't the right path.
This guy is real good. Highly highly impressed.
The book ‘Color of Law’ discusses how reparations would work and they wouldn’t be simple money transfers.
What an amazing interview! The space was held so well by Michelle and Coleman is awesome! Hugh knowledge and considered dialogue.
"How is reparations going to fix the taboo of academic achievement?" - Coleman Hughes
Riddle me that Black Lives Matter. SO sad, all the thousands who organize to protest, and they're protesting for the wrong things and not having meaningful discussions That can actually create change and progress.
What discussions do think BLM are discussing because I'm not understanding comment.
how are they protesting for the wrong things? What are the wrong things? What are the meaningful discussions do you think they need to have? I think meaningful discussions are being held in every part of society currently, even in homes.
@@dpflifeveryonecared i think hes saying that if you keep that kind of self sabotaging ideas off the table then what kind of change can you achieve?
What they are fighting for is for the states and counties to reinvest in the communities. A fight worth having.
@@CedricOfflayStrong I agree however they are doing that In such a chaotic, disorganized, emotional way that its almost pointless and hurts the movement. If you go to black lives matter official website, one of the first things you see is #DefundThePolice which in their perspective means ultimately remove current police system. How does this help poor communities? If the Police system needs reform, Which it does, then that will require MORE funds and MORE training. Also if you go to the BLM website, they do not provide any statistics, inforgraphs, or any resources that might help more people join their cause or help create solutions. On their 'About' page they layout a very vague set of 'values' that they believe in, and in some ways they contradict themselves. Also all their donations funnels through a company called 'ActBlue' that is essentially a charity for the Democratic political party and Democrat politicians. The same politicians that haven't fixed a damn thing in these downtrodden communities. Finally, the biggest problem with all this, is the continuing of separating Black people vs White people. No where on their Website does it say American Families, American Communities, Americans in poverty. They keep making this a Race Issue, only because it was in the past. Today its no longer a race issue, its a culture issue and the 'Black' Community or the 'Black' Culture is essentially anti 'American' culture' because they have been tricked into thinking 'America is racist towards black'. In the past it was, and then it was racist only in the south, and now its so minimal today that its almost irrelevant in determining success. There are more important issues to correct. Why in the black communities do they have a hierarchy based on their own skin color? (light skinned dark skinned etc) Why do they call those with good grades and who speak eloquently as 'Oreos' or 'Uncle Tom"?? You can make any and all changes to the system however it is still up to the individual on how he progress through that system, and that individual is more impacted by the immediate family and immediate community rather than the entire Social Structure as a whole. Its like calling an Automobile racist because the driver is racist. No the vehicle is an inanimate system that is controlled by individuals. And instead of removing the racist driver or creating reform, they want to burn down the entire vehicle and rebuild something new. The Car is fine! infact its great, people just need to realize that they can drive it if they so desire, but that takes an effort to LEARN the system and understand it instead blame the individuals in it. And this is where Group identity politics comes into play which is incredibly, historically dangerous (Bolshevik revolution, Maoist revolution, Etc).
Ms. Carroll, you should reach out to Dave Rubin, your subs would explode after one youtube talk with him.
We’d love to have Dave on. We’ll see what we can do 😉
@@exploringminds_ Going on his show will massively increase your exposure. Possible pipeline to Rogan as well. Not that I can promise anything, but as far as youtube goes, seems like pretty much the road to 100K subs.
Yes!
My two cents to the conversation as someone who worked in a middle school in the Bronx in a capacity that allowed me to see information cards on families. The majority of West Indies blacks checked off Caucasian as their race.
This guy is very smart. Been listening to him for quite a while.
Why would the check off a race they aren’t?
This lad is like Ben Shapiro, nothing but stats and facts, Very well educated.
Ben Shapiro if Ben didn't have a huge blind spot which is religion.
They are day and night. This guy is always calm, non-emotional, soft spoken, doesn't use provocative terms or strong adjectives, etc. and never sounds pretentious, arrogant. He is not trying to DESTROY you with FACTS and LOGIC. How effective do you think is Ben Shapiro changing minds?
@@olemew not good at changing minds of people who already have established beliefs about the world that they refuse to change. However, no one can get through to these people. In regards to young people or people who are just beginning to learn about politics, then I think he does a really good job of educating them about certain viewpoints and topics using logic and facts. He does contradict himself occasionally or go too far based on an emotional reaction. However, he will admit when he was wrong in the past, which is a good trait
@@timothysnow5 In any case, their communication styles are completely different.
There might be an audience out there waiting to be convinced by Ben Shapiro, but that's never been my experience. Too fast, too furious.
However, he is probably valuable at providing arguments and facts for conservatives to use with friends, coworkers, and so on.
@@MrKT410 ur nowhere near rightful to say that ...you have a blind spot called ignorance and enforcing ur beliefs on every1
Thousands of people across the West need to have THIS information.
Not the "trends of hate" and their low resolution assumptions.
This guy reminds me of Sam Harris, they have similar styles
That is exactly what I thought too. The pauses, the hand gestures, and tone of voice
They have been guests on each others podcasts. Great episodes
Exactly right. They both are into meditation which seems to give them a sense of calm even when discussions become heated.
Very good conversation here. Respectful, thoughtful, humble
This is a great interview. I learned a lot of new things. I am now even more confident that extreme leftists are wrong.
I am disappointed by the number of people here who think that they should chide Michele because she didn't know the meaning of the word eugenics. 15:00
But I offer considerable kudos to her for not being pretentious nor feeling any shame in not knowing the meaning of the word. This is refreshing. Just plain honesty on her part. Humble. It gives me an even greater inclination to search out more of her material. And how does Coleman react? Without batting an eye, or indicating surprise, he calmly explains what the word means and moves along with his presentation.
Good on both of them. I can learn something from both of these people.