Analyzing Evil: Thomas Wake, Thomas Howard, and The Lighthouse
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- Welcome everyone to the twenty-third episode of Analyzing Evil! Our feature villains for this video are Thomas Wake and Thomas Howard from The Lighthouse. I hope you enjoy, and thanks for watching. If you have any feedback or questions feel free to let me know below!
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Analyzing Evil: Dinkleberg
This MUST happen
Pleaaaase
I’m down.
That’s next years April fools video
@@crimsondynamo615 You know what? I would wait a year for that
I'm glad Robert Pattinson started getting better roles after Twilight and didn't spend the rest of his career only being known as "the sparkly vampire."
Ya he’s Batman now!
You should check him out in The Rover. It's an interesting performance but he does a fantastic job at it.
Straight up the best part in tenet
He was awesome in *"Good Time" too* (2017) 👍
He is seriously an awesome actor. I had a lot of reservations following his work for awhile, but im glad i gave in and gave him the chance he so clearly deserves.
Conclusion: It was all because Robert Pattinson didn't like Willem Dafoe's lobster
You’re fond of me Lobster, ain’t ye?
How could I like the horseshit you cook us up for supper?
Have it your way...I like yer cookin
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK. HARK, TRITON, HARK!
I don’t have to say nothing.
Nice to see Willem Dafoe taking on his usual cheerie acting roles
If you wanna see him in something funny just watch Body of Evidence with Madonna. Supposed to be a mystery thriller but it's got Madonna so it turns into a so bad it's funny comedy.
This made me lol
*"Hark, Triton, hark!"*
_"OK have it your way. I like your cooking."_
Not only is this nightmare a slow burn, but it's well-balanced with humor. Both the horror / comedy elements compliment each other.
yeah, tht scene is just stellar, and WILLEM DAFOE just SHINES thruout the movie like the lighthouse itself! THT SCENE u refer to is worth watching the movie over and over again.....and tom or tommy just have to RESIGN there due to Ephriam turning into POSEIDON himself...its just friggin funny !
My daughter told me, to this day, every time someone inquires how she likes something, she hears "Ye LiKeD mE LoBsTeR StEw DiDnT yE?!?!"
It's a slow burn on the first watch but not so much upon rewatch. The film really has no filler. With each chore that he does, Winslow is getting closer and closer to breaking.
I got chills in the theatre when he says “why’d ya spill yer beans Tommy”
I watched it at night by myself… the volume slowly goes down and then I hear that 😭😭😭
That whole scene blew my mind.
You never really get over that scene, do you?
I was laughing my ass off. This movie is one of the funniest I've ever seen.
@@MrMalicious5 can relate
I'm still going with two dudes going cabin fever while drinking pretty much straight lighter fuel.
Yeah I agree, just a power struggle between two men going crazy
Yeah pretty much. They just got too drunk.
this is literally what I thought it was. I am almost mind blown how much this channel pulled out lol
@@iTechmen1 that’s called interpretation, art is allowed to do that. This video isn’t fact. I don’t think the film is this, just as much as you see the film in your own way. That’s what art is supposed to do.
Agreed. I love the Analyzing Evil series, but this video is a prime example of looking _way_ too deep into things. I hate when people over-analyze art -- just let it be mysterious.
I love how the title implies the lighthouse itself is a villain.
I mean, he ain’t wrong
To over simplify my own theory: I like to think this story is a lovecraftian tale about a living beacon that brings obsessed people to feed off of, much like a flame feeding off of moths.The lighthouse is alive and brings both knowledge and suffering to those who care for it.
where you get the living light interperation from? I like it but where did you get this idea from?
@@Gadget-Walkmen idk I just like the concept of the foreboding eldritch terror that drives men to insanity just by gazing upon it's true form/it's forbidden knowledge
I feel like old Tom ruined his marriage due to his obsession as the light fed off of his obsession. Old Tom was careful not to be fully taken by the light but very much was infatuated with it, something Young Tommy couldn't control. Young Tommy found forbidden knowledge once the light took him (he is shown to both find pleasure but unfathomable pain just from seeing the light's true form) and was disregarded to the birds and other dead sailors/wickies after it was done with him.
I mean why not, the movie itself doesn't give us any meaning whatsoever. So every fan theory is as valid as any other.
I want a Lighthouse-esque Silent Hill game now haha.
@@alt0799 that already exists lol
Analyzing Evil: Todd from Breaking Bad. Even through every other character on that show is evil in some shady way, Todd is such a weird, naive, and nice guy that still performs heinous acts.
Hannah Arendt: The Banality of Evil
I want Walt analyzed
Gus Fring
Pepperoni Pizza. Nice, a classic. That’s my favorite too.
@@NFS4LFE That scene was chilling and so sad for Jesse
An unexpected choice, but a welcome one
*welcome(d)
Last time I was this early I was something of a lighthouse worker myself...
I read all your research on how to care for a light house
Combo comment.
Massively under-rated. Both of you.
"You can't do this to me. I built this lighthouse. YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED."
Meta meme
I thought the movie was about the struggle between the older generation's authority and desperation to hold onto their station against the younger generation that tries their best but becomes frustrated under the cruel dictatorship of the old guard who seems more interested in basking in their own glory at the top of the lighthouse than ensuring the well-being and capability of the next generation. Dafoe covets the light and Pattinson slowly realizes that he will never be allowed to stand at the top so he gives up and devolves into madness. When I watched the movie I thought he gouged out his eye after realizing the reality of his situation and his actions and how futile everything was. The game was always rigged and he is punished like Prometheus for touching the fire he was forbidden from.
This is a great take!
I don't think there is any right or wrong interpretation of the movie. It's meant to be whatever you the viewer project onto it.
The original script didn’t name rhe characters- just called them “old and young “
I've seen a few videos dissecting this film, and I love how each one has a different takeaway. That's the mark of a true masterpiece in my opinion. Everyone interprets it differently.
For real though. Everybody I’ve ever talked to about this film has a different reading of it. It’s amazing.
Bill the Butcher from Gangs of New York or Daniel Plainview from There will be Blood. Those two are as psychologically complex as evil fictional characters can get. Doesn’t hurt that they were both played by Daniel Day Lewis either.
Yes, There will be blood would be great for this guy
Yeah
There Will Be Blood is my favorite film of all time. I don't necessarily think it's the best film ever made, but it's powerfully impactful. I think it would be interesting to compare Eli Sunday and Daniel Plainview, as they each suffer mightily for their greed and lust for power.
@@misacruzader ...bastard from a basket..... BASTARD FROM A BASKET!
Great choice!
Can you do Louis Bloom from Nightcrawler? He's honestly one of the best psychopaths I've seen in a film and Jake Gyllenhaal's performance is incredible.
Great suggestion.
Sociopath
I left the theater PISSED OFF after watching Nightcrawler, that’s when I came to the conclusion Jake Gyllenhaal was an AMAZING actor because I can’t remember a time I felt anything after watching a movie‼️
Haha look what The Vile Eye just did :)
That's one of my all-time favorites.
My favorite line from Tom near the end was bone chilling "How long have we been on this rock?....four weeks?....two days?....help me recollect" was beautiful showing how long of isolation and dread during the burning winds of the storm where man looses time in this need of meaning.
I went on a date to see this and god bless her for baring with me because seeing this in theaters was fantastic. I love all the different interpretations you can take towards it and how they all hold equal acclaim.
...But did you smash?
I considered it a privilege to see this film in theaters.
But really...did u smash bro?
@@-Zer0Dark- you think he got some after taking a date to see that movie? If she wasn't a film person I'm gonna go with hell naw lol
@@st4ne4rmthevill63 if she wasnt a film person then its her loss
The grandmother from Hereditary would be an interesting study. Coupled with the fact that she's never even featured in the film other than as a dead body.
I honestly cannot think of any film that has a villain more evil than her due to the nature of her transgression.
There are Polaroid pictures of her showering herself with gold coins and conducting rituals with her coven, if my memory serves me right.
A really funny yet believable theory I've heard is that at the top of the lighthouse is nothing, and that Tom just wanted some privacy. Thats why Tommy screams at the end cause he realises that he killed a man for nothing.
I think the two main characters from Hard Candy would make for an interesting examination.
great film
Pfft
I think that movie is stunningly easy once youve watched it. One of them is evil...
It is the journey to that point that's...shocking..mindbending
I'm at a loss. This is the first show that you have covered that I have not seen. I'm now going to watch it and revisit this video. Thank you for expanding my repertoire
This movie is fucking wild, enjoy!
@@horrifyinggelatinousblob thank you.
Same here.
You're in for a ride my friend. I'd recommend a second watch with subtitles😁
@@self-proclaimedcomedian1037 I was intending that cuz it will be easier to take notes
Hurrah we’re homeward bound
Hurrah we’re homeward bound
When we arrived at Bedford docks
Them bloomers comin’ out in flocks
Them pretty girls, they all did say
“Here’s comes Jack with his nine months pay!”
Hurrah we’re homeward bound
Hurrah we’re homeward bound
You write in English perfectly well Pyrrhus
Analizing Evil: Alonzo Harris from Training Day.
Coming out on Thursday!
@@TheVileEye my n***a
@@TheVileEye "You know our motto, WE DELIVER!"
King kong aint got shit on me
You just made me squeal with that news! You rock!!
Maybe you can do Tony Montana from Scarface
To be honest I don't think the evidence for the repressed homosexuality subtext is very strong in this film, but I can still see how you could arrive at that interpretation regardless. The parallels to Greek mythology are definitely there though, and are in fact one of the aspects of the film's symbolism that are actually explicit. This film is so genius in its ambiguity, you could probably watch it 100 times and come away with 200 different interpretation of events. It was easily the best film of 2019 and an instant modern masterpiece of film.
I wish he had of explained repressed homosexuality more too. I actually came to the comments to see if anyone piggy backed on his statements. I will say that I can see the lighthouse being a phallic symbol and when Tom and Tommy got into spats it seemed like they were husband and wife but I’ve never heard a theory that the man he killed was his lover… but it really interests me and I’m wondering how I missed that!
@@chelseybrown2334 I can see a possibility that he was maybe infatuated with Winslow and killed him out of some misplaced feeling of self loathing, but I don't see how you could jump to the conclusion of them being lovers or romantically involved with each other. There's not enough information given in the movie to come to that sort of conclusion about their relationship.
@@chelseybrown2334 I’m thinking he’s gay so he sees robs pattison character repressing the gay stuff because I didn’t see anything showing he’s gay
Bruh didnt they almost kiss in the movie? And when he was choking tommy he saw the mermaid as if he was fuckin her and he turned into a sea beast
@@mikeyyyyyy3312 im guessing youre straight so u think every character / real person is straight by default
That parallel you drew between Tom's behavior and the sea, both being able to become aggressive and unhinged unexpectedly, was really cool.
I haden't picked up on that.
The dark beauty of this film, aside from how it was shot, is that it has so many layers, so many things to uncover.
Good video, I always assumed that Dafoe's character hurt his leg from previously falling down the lighthouse trap door, like Pattinson does at the end, hence him changing his story, to hide the "power" of the light.
This is the best analysis I’ve seen so far. The idea that Thomas and tommy are the same person is mind blowing. The log book at the end makes so much sense, the genius of this film is that it can be interpreted both ways. That they are separate or the same and the overall message would be about the same. Atonement of the soul and realizing the self. Simply amazing, thank you for this.
Döden (Death) from Det sjunde inseglet (The Seventh Seal) has some really good imagery and meaning behind the movie even though it was made in 1957.
Since you covered an Eggers film, I'd love to see your take on _The VVitch._ Such a great movie, I enjoyed seeing such a pious family fall to their own sins. Also, excellent analysis of _The Lighthouse._
Lol. The Vi-Vitch.
@@samhenley7156 Yup. Just showing respect to the director, he chose that name. It's a little goofy, but man, it's a great film. Eggers has a really great big egghead brain. He's the best. ^^ So excited for his next project, it looks awesome already.
Analyzing Evil: Villagers from Minecraft. Their prices are the true crime.
You gotta industrialize on their asses. It’s the only way
What about the crime of the real life villagers
Dr doofenshmirtz
The true evil of capitalism
@@fiddlesticks7245 extremely based and redpilled
No matter the content presented, your voice is so calming it immediately puts me at ease and fully in tune with the video.
LOVE the content on this channel and especially the pied piper vocalist 😊
This was so incredible. I’ve been here since the beginning and you’re getting better every time.
The Lighthouse became one of my favorite movies of all time on my first watching of it, and I agree with almost everything you said.
you should do frank ( Dennis hopper ) from blue velvet
Hear hear! _Blue Velvet_ isn't discussed enough.
im curious, how is "ephriam winslow" tommy's lover?
my personal view was ephriam was tommy's ideal self. the man he could've been if he wasn't "a filthy dog"
Yea I didn't get the battle with his sexuality part of this review
Hes not thats a reach, Tommy is Proteus tho
@@TheStreamThatJakeBuilt I dont know man I just watched it and there were a few moments that seemed a little gay. Toward the end when hes drunk slow dancing with dafoe to name one where it hangs on it for so long that I was only left to ask "is this supposed to be gay or?..."
@@TheStreamThatJakeBuilt the director confirmed the homoerotic undertones were intentional and Pattinson said he feels his character wanted a daddy
Because the director mentions homoerotic overtones. If this is the case,trying to find it on the text would point to winslow
"ye lie to yourself, but y'ain't have the sauce to see it."
Just found this channel two days ago and it’s already one of my favorites. Great analysis awesome insight. Makes me want to watch or rewatch all these characters
Shit day at work, The Vile eye video on The Lighthouse waiting when I get home.
Today was a net positive.
The light of his own soul hurting him in that scene is a fascinating concept.
Analyzing Evil: The Gang from its always sunny in Philadelphia.
Here's an unconventional suggestion as he isn't exactly evil in a traditional way. But Richard Hammond from Jurassic Park. Could be interesting
You mean John Hammond? If we're talking the film version, he's not evil in the slightest. Novel version? You would have a case.
@@Skrenja
Novel version of Lewis Dodgson would make a good video too
John Hammond in the film is a textbook narcissist. Arguably evil considering his greed and lack of empathy for the deaths of multiple people caused by him.
Excellent work, great editing and analysis, very fascinating and interesting! Thank you for your attention to detail and quality.
One of the great films of the 21st Century.
Full stop. _Great_ analysis!
im so excited to watch this, thank you for posting today :)
Truly detailed analysis. I enjoyed the movie but never looked this deep into it. Listening to this makes me think of how an "Analyzing Evil" audiobook with a villain each chapter would be a great listen.
Great analysis. First I thought I couldn't agree more with you, but then you went way deeper than I ever could. Fantastic job.
An interesting analysis I’d love to see is Anthony Fremont from The Twilight Zone episode “It’s A Good Life”.
all i have to say is yes
good idea
Cant believe Batman and Green Goblin starred in a movie together 👍
Great video! I love how many interesting interpretations and conversations have come from this film.
This may very well be your best video yet, man; absolutely incredible.
Absolutely fantastic take on a wonderfully complex, layered, thematic movie. I just found your channel yesterday, and this makes me so glad I subscribed. Hereditary would be super interesting to hear your thoughts on in the future.
Amazing video, it was tough knowing what to make of it, but this sounds like a solid overview.
Wow, what a fresh and thought-provoking analysis! Thoroughly enjoyed hearing your interpretation on this amazing movie.
This was really interesting take. At times I found it hard to concentrate on the video because my mind started to wander upon the symbolism and the themes mentioned in the video. You got me thinking which is good! I have seen this movie once and now I'm definitely going to revisit it...
Keep up the good work man!
I think the biggest idea behind the movie is in the script where the characters where called "old" and "young"
Tough video here as the Lighthouse is so open to interpretation. Brilliant film and well done for taking on such a beast of a movie
Amazing! All of that went over my head, such an awesome video.
Lorne Malvo, Billy Bob Thornton's character from the first season of Fargo, would make a good video.
Dude!
THAT WAS A MASTERPIECE OF AN ANALOGY. 🤔🤯
Can you do Baby Jane Hudson? Particularly note the irony that the sister she keeps hostage was played by Joan Crawford, who was pretty much Baby Jane in real life lol
Baby Jane was Bette Davis shining an ugly light into Joan Crawford's face about her true self. Not sure if Joan got the message, although they hated each other.
Yes yes yessss
@@tatianamelendez490 Betty Davis had the last laugh
@@quinnzykir Indeed she did.
TINAAAAA!! Bring the ax!!
Great job on this. When I saw this mov6i wasn't thinking that deep about it,I just thought it was a dark ,twisted movie (a good movie) but wow ,I had no idea of alot of this "other stuff" underlying. This piece is probably one of the best movies either of the actors careers.
Great analysis! I’ve been wanting to revisit this movie for a while now. I have no idea how long it would have taken me to come to some of the conclusions you mapped out. I think there’s a lot of truth here. Thanks a lot
Ooooooh yes, very excited for this. God I was obsessed with this film for a good year lol.
Edit after viewing: see this is why I love this movie. Your interpretation was similar but very different to several other youtubers take on the film. It's so enjoyable! I loved your analysis.
This is just the daily life of Willem Dafoe.
This gave me a whole new perspective on this movie. Great video!
Wow this is a really good analysis of this movie. Good job.
Analyzing Evil : Jim Moriarty (BBC Sherlock)
Love your channel it’s so cool you go into a deep dive of so many cinematic villains. I hope maybe one day to see Max caddy from “Cape Fear” show up. God bless and keep up the good work
This breakdown definitely had just about all my thoughts and more. Nice job!
So complex, intelligent, eloquent, fantastic!!!! Wow, simply wow. Makes me remember so vividly how much I love this movie, now I very much hope to rewatch it again soon. Thank you so much for this absolutely excellent video
A deeply insightful analysis. I don't however think that it will actually be an eternal staycation cycle, I think it's more likely that he will eventually understand, albeit he may have to repeat the cycle hundreds of quintillion septillion lighthousillions of times. Great job shedding some 'light' on a deeply mental film. Thank you, thank you, I'm here until Tommy throws me off a cliff suddenly about 1/4th of the way into the movie.
Finally! The last time I tried to watch this episode it was blocked in country here in the states! Aaaah! Now THAT is EVIL! I really enjoy your insights Vile Eye. Thank you
Please keep doing these videos ! They are amazing
Best breakdown i have seen that puts together my interpretation of the film and confirm them to be true. Great film and great breakdown. Thanks Vile
no, this review is a portrait if the reviewers mind, not the film, projection, projection, projection
Wow ! That's in depth..
I just watched the movie..
You went way over my head.
Thought the killing of the seagull was like killing of the Albatross.
And their /his life went to shit after. I appreciate all your knowledge and work on this movie .. Thanks ..
I've honestly never seen a film with such a wide range of perfectly acceptable interpretations. To me, it's the hell of being trapped with co-workers you hate and that nothing ever hits the reset button; the pot can only boil further. I spent several deployments in Iraq and my god if this doesn't truly remind me of being stuck on the far side of the planet with some of those assholes.
This video was definitely worth the wait.
Great film. Glad someone put so much effort into deconstructing the film and viewing it through a psychoanalytical lens
Would love to hear your take on the Alien from 'Under the Skin' and 'her' particular penchant for driving around Glasgow abducting frisky Celtic supporters.
Love that book
I always felt after watching the movie, that it would be the 'Eraserhead' of this generation, i loved it so much.
i always compare the sound design of these two movies. very interesting.
Love this channel.
Here are a few suggestions off the top of my head that have characters I think would be interesting to hear your thoughts on:
- Lost Highway
- Cronenberg’s The Fly
- The Blackcoats Daughter (I wish there were more interesting vids on this film)
I’m sure there are plenty more, you’ve already covered so many good ones though!
Thank you for these videos, I just started watching your channel and its incredible
This video did not disappoint! I think this is the best analysis of this film I've seen!
I remember after it came out there were a bunch of videos that claImed to explain it which merely pointed out the mythological analogues and explained basically nothing,
There are a couple of videos that give a kind of Marxist analysis which I quite like but I think this provides the most satisfying analysis and closest to the intention of the film makers.
Really good!
Here's a couple more tv villains you might want to consider:
Azazeal (Michael Fassbender), BBC's "Hex"
Billy Russo (Ben Barnes), "The Punisher"
Thanks for the analysis of this extremely elusive movie - the mythological aspects are particularly welcome in interpreting the story and images.
These come out so frequently it’s mind blowing
Great video as always. I think you would do a great job analyzing villains like Wafner from Overlord, Craig from Creep (2004), Gollum from LotR and Louis Bloom from Nightcrawler
I think this movie has more interpretations than there are minutes of run time. Every analysis I watched or read had some different view or aspect, brilliant movie.
Your interpretation resonates so clearly with my understanding of this film that it’s more horrifying than the film itself.
This is literally the best video on the internet such an interesting take away from the movie!
Great video!! Incredibly informative. I vaugely knew about the Promethean theme in the movie, and I wasnt aware of the Proteus stuff. Not sure if youd be into doing a TV villain, but I'd love to see you do a video about Malvo from season 1 of fargo. Or maybe the Gemini Killer from Exorcist 3
If I had a steak... I would eat it with my mouth and do nothing sexual to it. Ever. At all. Cause I'm not about that.
I haven't seen the movie..........
.....but what happened with the steak?
@@remylucai
Don't worry about it. That's what.
you would if youre stuck in that rock
....😂...🤨...😥...YER DON'T LIKE ME COOKIN'?!😭
If I have a steak I would banged it.
Very insightful interpretation and explanation of this movie. I feel like I understand the film a little better now. Thanks for a great analysis.
On the last evening before lockdown I went to the theatre to watch this. Couldn't have picked better.
According to Jung Tommy needs the anima to communicate with his unconscious mind; the anima is represented by the mermaid. Since he keeps refusing her he can't redeem himself by integrating his shadow or aligning with his unconscious.
If they decide make a live action of Monster, I think Robert Pattinson would be a great option for Johan.
On Tenet Robert actually has his look..
this has crossed my mind many times now lol i thought i was the only one
No one could do Johan justice
Thank you for this. I just saw the movie and had to watch it twice and I was still like " WTF did I just see!?" This breakdown was nice and might give it a third try with the info from the video and the ties in with the Greek Mythology. Great video can't wait for your next project. I think next one be cool if you did an evil kid or something.
Fascinating analysis! I have not watched this film but will definately be doing so after this!